Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:16:03 pm
I started this weekend. Here is what I have so far. I am losing a fight with a bottle of rum right now so it is the perfect time to take a break, start up my Metal Pandora station, and document what I have done so far.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=377986;image)
I picked up this garbage cab. I think it is being held together by crappy paint. I was originally going to restore this cab. I still might....eventually. No patience for that right now.
Time to template and build from scratch.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=377987;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=377988;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=377989;image)
Part of the front was really trashed. I finished it off on my table saw later.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=377990;image)
This is why you need to use quality 1/2 inch bits. The bearing exploded on this crappy bit.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=377991;image)
This is the result. More freakin work. I will have to use wood filler and fix this later.
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:20:22 pm
This is why you clamp down your work.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378001;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378002;image)
That's better.
These grooves are for placing the blocking. They are just deep enough to accurately place the blocks.
I will glue them down and use brad nails to clamp them in place.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378005;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378003;image)
Ohhh. Beefy.
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:24:03 pm
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378006;image)
The factory edge is against the fence. I will assume it is straight.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378007;image)
Always use push blocks. I just use scrap wood. It is better than using fingers.
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:27:00 pm
The next step after securing the blocking is to duplicate it for the other side.
Post by: opt2not on July 09, 2019, 10:32:35 pm
So is this THE cab?
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:35:05 pm
Post by: opt2not on July 09, 2019, 10:39:15 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:42:22 pm
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2019, 10:44:46 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:44:57 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 10:47:27 pm
I don't see a laser in action... 8)
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2019, 10:51:33 pm
My laser is busy working on an overdue project for a friend.I don't see a laser in action... 8)
That friend needs to finish up ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on his end still... :cheers:
Post by: Mike A on July 09, 2019, 11:02:57 pm
Post by: opt2not on July 09, 2019, 11:14:45 pm
How many buttons should each player have? The age old question rears its ugly head. This cab will be only used for 4 player games. I have WW Cowboys of Moo Mesa, and Super High Impact PCBs. I will probably have to also shove a MAME computer in there as an option. I work for a living. I can't afford those TMNT PCBs. There are tons of 4 player games. I just have to figure out if the 4 button games are worth the extra hassle. Three buttons are probably good.
I say go 2 buttons each, and use this for button 3 inputs: https://riddledtv.com/arcade/condenser_boards.html#2to3button
Could save you some drilling hassle, but backload the work on the wiring. Also, $25 each is a bit tough, but perhaps RiddledTV can give you a deal. He has sales now and then.
I don’t know many beat-em-ups that have 4 buttons per, other than the D&D games. And most of the 3-button titles use button 3 as a special attack. A 2-button combo to get button 3 is perfectly fine, and you could really free up space on your CP for 4 trackballs and spinners.
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2019, 11:44:22 pm
Post by: pbj on July 09, 2019, 11:52:27 pm
Post by: Arroyo on July 10, 2019, 01:06:41 am
Looking forward to the pics!
Post by: jennifer on July 10, 2019, 03:10:21 am
Post by: Mike A on July 10, 2019, 05:05:33 am
Post by: Mike A on July 10, 2019, 05:13:31 am
Post by: Mike A on July 10, 2019, 08:23:08 am
Quote
I say go 2 buttons each, and use this for button 3 inputs: https://riddledtv.com/arcade/condenser_boards.html#2to3button
I was thinking the same thing. Getting three button functionality with 2 buttons I think is the way to go. That will make for less clutter on the CP.
Quote
4 buttons for players 3 and 4. Spend the 10 seconds per game it takes to remap them so you don't have dead buttons. So that means Simpsons has 2 jump buttons and 2 attack buttons. Just do it. Be amazed that people won't realize they can jump in those games because "I didn't want to press that button because I didn't know what it does."
That is a sensible idea too. I will have to get some cardboard out and see what is comfortable.
I am not setting up more buttons for P1 and P2. I have a candy cab that can handle 2 player, 6 button games.
Post by: Mike A on July 10, 2019, 08:34:06 am
I have a SFII Champion Edition PCB on the way. I need my candy cab to practice up for the next Zapcon.
Post by: Vigo on July 10, 2019, 08:42:08 am
QuoteI say go 2 buttons each, and use this for button 3 inputs: https://riddledtv.com/arcade/condenser_boards.html#2to3button
I was thinking the same thing. Getting three button functionality with 2 buttons I think is the way to go. That will make for less clutter on the CP.
Didn't know that existed. Very cool.
Post by: Mike A on July 10, 2019, 08:46:22 am
Post by: Laythe on July 10, 2019, 04:45:23 pm
Also, your first post in the thread contained sawdust - well done. :applaud:
Post by: Titchgamer on July 10, 2019, 05:13:20 pm
Get practicing them skillz!
Post by: Arroyo on July 10, 2019, 11:05:43 pm
I have a SFII Champion Edition PCB on the way. I need my candy cab to practice up for the next Zapcon.
I finally find a game I can beat Mikey at, and he orders the PCB just to show me up at the next one. Bring it Big Boy!
Post by: Mike A on July 10, 2019, 11:08:57 pm
And then I am going to beat you at SFII.
Post by: Arroyo on July 10, 2019, 11:14:40 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 10, 2019, 11:17:22 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 11, 2019, 08:29:58 am
Post by: Mike A on July 11, 2019, 08:37:17 am
Milk crates are a great tool.
They are stackable storage. They are step stools. They can be used as a tool box or a sawhorse. They are durable and mine were free from the time my company owned retail stores.
Post by: pbj on July 11, 2019, 09:44:36 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 11, 2019, 10:09:27 am
Post by: Mike A on July 11, 2019, 10:13:04 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 11, 2019, 10:37:31 am
Post by: MiteWiseacre on July 11, 2019, 01:07:10 pm
I have a few I found in the wild and will never let them go - queue Rick Roll
Watching this build, excited for you
Post by: leapinlew on July 11, 2019, 04:54:00 pm
Post by: opt2not on July 11, 2019, 05:14:18 pm
At this risk of sounding friendly, that's some good work.We may banter outside of project announcements, but it's good that people can separate the debates and arguments from good ol' fashion solid work. :cheers:
Post by: leapinlew on July 11, 2019, 06:30:54 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 11, 2019, 06:37:09 pm
Post by: jennifer on July 11, 2019, 07:52:30 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 11, 2019, 10:41:43 pm
Here is how I attach blocking to cabinet sides.
Equipment
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378036;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378037;image)
I forgot to include paper towels.
Slather glue on the block and in the groove.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378038;image)
Use you finger to make sure the glue completely covers the block. Don't be afraid to get dirty.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378039;image)
Use a nail gun to clamp the block to the cabinet side. The nails are just to clamp the block in place until the glue dries. The glue is the strength of the joint.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378040;image)
Wipe off excess glue with lots of paper towels.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378041;image)
Don't forget to wipe down your tip before you put it away.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378042;image)
Dispose of the evidence. Have a drink. Pfft. Looks like a Friday night.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378043;image)
Post by: opt2not on July 11, 2019, 11:16:42 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 11, 2019, 11:30:04 pm
I think it is fixed now.
Post by: ZTylerDurden717 on July 12, 2019, 08:32:22 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 12, 2019, 08:48:17 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 12, 2019, 08:50:26 pm
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Post by: Vigo on July 12, 2019, 09:13:27 pm
Post by: ZTylerDurden717 on July 12, 2019, 09:14:59 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 12, 2019, 09:20:29 pm
:cheers: We lost a few of those in MN over the last couple years. Becoming rare. They could use all the support you can give.
Post by: bperkins01 on July 13, 2019, 07:45:47 am
Like the tablesaw / router insert ;)
Following..
Post by: Mike A on July 13, 2019, 08:36:10 am
540” CRT or gtfo
Post by: Mike A on July 13, 2019, 08:37:36 am
Nice work sir.
Like the tablesaw / router insert ;)
Following..
Post by: Titchgamer on July 13, 2019, 10:09:57 am
Post by: Mike A on July 13, 2019, 09:10:22 pm
https://www.classicarcadecabinets.com/assembly---konami-4p.html (https://www.classicarcadecabinets.com/assembly---konami-4p.html)
I suck at painting and I should have created a template with the blocking positioning instead of measuring.
Using pocket hole screws will allow me to dry fit and disassemble to adjust, sand, paint, apply vinyl artwork and t molding with some forgiveness for my less than precise methods.
Post by: Mike A on July 13, 2019, 11:33:27 pm
5 inch drill bit
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378064;image)
Drill halfway through. Flip the board over and finish the job. That reduces tear out.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378065;image)
It never hurts to clamp down your work.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378066;image)
The hole turned out very clean on both sides. It just needs a little light sanding.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378067;image)
Post by: Nephasth on July 14, 2019, 12:40:38 am
Post by: Arroyo on July 15, 2019, 11:42:35 am
Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 11:43:33 am
Post by: thomas_surles on July 15, 2019, 11:45:12 am
Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 11:51:55 am
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Post by: Arroyo on July 15, 2019, 12:27:43 pm
I know you like to watch.
Only watch?
(https://media.tenor.com/images/94b769104075e5921a61f8bf05294e2b/tenor.gif)
Post by: thomas_surles on July 15, 2019, 01:41:16 pm
This one? I am pretty sure I posted pics somewhere. Since this pic I fixed the screen in front and touched up where I was too thin with the Duratex. My son leaves for college in August. That is when I will attach the corner hardware. He has it buried behind his electronic drum kit right now. It sounds bad ass.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/5fbc520089546e1d79230d55929171f7.jpg)That came out nice. Yeah I remember talking about it but didn't remember what happened with it.
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Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 01:44:28 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 09:52:42 pm
Time to cut the holes for the coin doors.
Measure and draw the locations.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378098;image)
Drill holes to allow jigsaw cutting.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378099;image)
I know very boring.
Who the hell cut this ugly ass hole?
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378100;image)
A good straight edge can be your friend. A straight edge that clamps down can be your best friend.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378101;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378102;image)
Much better.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378103;image)
Post by: J_K_M_A_N on July 15, 2019, 10:28:25 pm
J_K_M_A_N
Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 10:36:03 pm
Post by: Arroyo on July 15, 2019, 10:48:29 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 10:53:06 pm
Post by: Arroyo on July 15, 2019, 10:54:45 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 11:00:33 pm
I finished off the first coin door hole using a straight piece of hardwood instead of that snazzy straight edge. It works, but it is more clumsy. The clamps get in the way. I just found out that there is a 99 inch model of that straight edge clamp. I need to consult with pbj and sell some semen or something to buy that.
Post by: Mike A on July 15, 2019, 11:10:00 pm
I took one several years ago at a Woodcraft store. It was basic woodworking. We started by learning how to pick out a good rough cut board. We learned to use a jointer, table saw, and planer to create straight and flat boards. We learned how to edge glue and face glue the boards. We learned how to measure and cut tenons and use a mortiser.
We built a small end table. I knew how to do a bunch of that stuff already, but the old timer teaching the class taught me a bunch of little things that made a big difference in my woodworking.
Post by: Arroyo on July 15, 2019, 11:17:04 pm
Post by: J_K_M_A_N on July 16, 2019, 09:51:38 am
The bearing rides right along the flat aluminum face.
I know that. I was just wondering if you somehow ride the router on that clamp or if you come in from the backside (like you are known to do....so I hear ;D) with a bottom bearing trim bit. I have a clamp like that but I have not thought about using it for that so I was just curious how to went about it. Do you clamp it and lay it down on something face down?
Just trying to see if I need to learn a new technique.
J_K_M_A_N
Post by: Mike A on July 16, 2019, 09:57:54 am
If that doesn't work for you, you can just:
Measure the distance from your bit to the edge of your base.
Offset the clamp that distance from where you want to cut.
Or you could spend some additional cash
https://eemersontool.com/product/xcrp-c-series-universal-router-plate/ (https://eemersontool.com/product/xcrp-c-series-universal-router-plate/)
Post by: Mike A on July 16, 2019, 09:59:07 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 16, 2019, 10:17:18 am
Or you could spend some additional cash
(https://2bmumandstuff.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/all-the-things-meme-2.png)
Post by: J_K_M_A_N on July 16, 2019, 11:20:49 am
That piece in the link is very cool. That would come in handy for speaker slots if I did that again. Much easier than what I had set up.
J_K_M_A_N
Post by: Ond on July 16, 2019, 06:13:31 pm
I'm sitting on a pile of cardboatd boxes and too much stuff trying to move house. Gotta get motivation to get my new workshop sorted. This is helping.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 19, 2019, 08:17:53 am
Post by: Mike A on July 19, 2019, 08:27:10 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 19, 2019, 11:05:22 am
I have more. I will post pics this weekend.(https://media0.giphy.com/media/Bdh6MzvNHUhvG/giphy.gif)
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 21, 2019, 10:35:18 am
I have more. I will post pics this weekend.Its like Im waiting for a Comic Con trailer.
Post by: Mike A on July 21, 2019, 10:59:10 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 21, 2019, 11:00:38 am
So when are you coming to Zapcon?
Probably come for my first trip when Im as old as that broad in the above gif.
Post by: Titchgamer on July 21, 2019, 11:11:42 am
Post by: Mike A on July 21, 2019, 07:14:14 pm
Speaker slots.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378193;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378194;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378195;image)
I had a small issue with my router control. More wood filler and sanding.
Oh, and here is some straight up cab porn.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=378196;image)
This is the first dry fitting. I will need to make some adjustments to a couple of panels and place some more blocking.
I will post some pics of the CP box construction eventually.
Painting will have to wait until next weekend. Of course I might head up to the Oshkosh fly in or I guess now they call it the EAA Airventure.
https://www.eaa.org/en/airventure (https://www.eaa.org/en/airventure)
Post by: Arroyo on July 21, 2019, 08:11:15 pm
Post by: Laythe on July 21, 2019, 08:19:44 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 21, 2019, 08:27:44 pm
Thanks Laythe. I take it as high praise coming from you. I keep an eye on your builds to see what I can learn.
Post by: Arroyo on July 21, 2019, 08:44:09 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 21, 2019, 08:49:25 pm
Post by: Arroyo on July 21, 2019, 08:59:14 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 21, 2019, 09:01:38 pm
Post by: Vigo on July 21, 2019, 10:52:04 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 21, 2019, 10:58:37 pm
Post by: Titchgamer on July 22, 2019, 05:53:16 am
Post by: Mike A on July 22, 2019, 06:09:34 am
Post by: Titchgamer on July 22, 2019, 06:28:47 am
I make a living getting big things in small holes dont tell me it cant be done! LMAO
Post by: Ond on July 22, 2019, 06:41:15 am
Post by: Mike A on July 22, 2019, 07:03:27 am
I have 3 monitors on different walls. I use a 4 way HDMI splitter. I have a tiny wireless keyboard with a trackpad. It cost like 15 bucks.
I use it to watch TV or sometimes YouTube instructional videos. I also bring up useful websites. That way I can get the information I need from anywhere in my dungeon workshop.
Post by: Vigo on July 22, 2019, 07:26:23 am
You can totally get a huge CRT in that ;)
I'm pretty sure it was a showcase cab monitor. Very few cabs could house it.
(https://bid.captainsauctionwarehouse.com/images/lot/6862/6862_0.jpg?1540012802)
Anyway, look forward to seeing what you come up with, Mike!
Yeah I found a good use for LCD displays. Who knew they could be useful?
I have 3 monitors on different walls. I use a 4 way HDMI splitter. I have a tiny wireless keyboard with a trackpad. It cost like 15 bucks.
I use it to watch TV or sometimes YouTube instructional videos. I also bring up useful websites. That way I can get the information I need from anywhere in my dungeon workshop.
I like that. Do they all have built in speakers, or just have one source for sound?
Post by: Titchgamer on July 22, 2019, 07:30:27 am
If I had a monitor like that and the room I would make a dedicated lightgun cab.
Playing point blank on that would be bad ass!!
Post by: Mike A on July 22, 2019, 07:32:04 am
I have my PC connected to PA amp with 4 speakers I had laying around spread around the shop and a 300 watt keyboard amp with a 15 inch sub.
Eventually I will be upgrading to decent ceiling mounted speakers.
Post by: Mike A on July 22, 2019, 07:33:28 am
Quote
If I had a monitor like that and the room I would make a dedicated lightgun cab.
It is almost like you can read my mind.
Post by: Titchgamer on July 22, 2019, 07:36:19 am
QuoteIf I had a monitor like that and the room I would make a dedicated lightgun cab.
It is almost like you can read my mind.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/6c49effbb74dac1dcc16cf67155f7907.jpg)
Post by: Vigo on July 22, 2019, 09:51:44 am
One source for sound?? Pffft.
I have my PC connected to PA amp with 4 speakers I had laying around spread around the shop and a 300 watt keyboard amp with a 15 inch sub.
Eventually I will be upgrading to decent ceiling mounted speakers.
I can dig that.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b2/b2f5ac0e3fd15701b35f28d5df51af30112a6e667785881be455cb72a31cc9a0.jpg)
Post by: Vigo on July 22, 2019, 09:57:38 am
Give me a crow bar and a hammer ile make it fit!!
If I had a monitor like that and the room I would make a dedicated lightgun cab.
Playing point blank on that would be bad ass!!
I hear ya there. I tried fitting it into my large atari lightgun cab as an upgrade, as well as my massive IT bowling cabinet. It was too big for both. Since I have a lightgun cab, and don't need a showcase cab, I realized Mike would be a much better suited owner for the monitor as soon as he described his lack of a space issue. :cheers:
Post by: javeryh on July 22, 2019, 12:53:57 pm
Post by: Mike A on July 24, 2019, 08:01:18 am
Today I can start with the wood filler and sanding.
Hopefully I can start painting this weekend. Although my Saturday will be occupied with the airshow.
Man I hate painting. I should have laminated this thing.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 26, 2019, 08:24:25 am
I should have laminated this thing.
TROOF!
Post by: pbj on July 26, 2019, 10:55:18 am
Post by: Mike A on July 26, 2019, 11:25:32 am
Bro, leave that laminate on the kitchen counter where it belongs.Maybe I should use linoleum.
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Post by: yotsuya on July 26, 2019, 11:34:19 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on July 26, 2019, 02:36:48 pm
Bro, leave that laminate on the kitchen counter where it belongs.
Unless it has lightning on it.
Post by: pbj on July 26, 2019, 02:43:24 pm
Post by: opt2not on July 26, 2019, 02:57:56 pm
Post by: jennifer on July 27, 2019, 03:21:35 am
Post by: Titchgamer on July 27, 2019, 03:25:16 am
Imo its quicker and easier than painting.
Just wish I had discovered that sooner :p
Post by: Vigo on July 29, 2019, 10:00:58 am
https://www.muralswallpaper.co.uk/shop-murals/blue-outline-retro-game-wall-mural/
Post by: Mike A on July 29, 2019, 10:08:31 am
Thank you for the helpful link Vigo.
I talked to my buddy this weekend about heading up to Minnesota soon. He wants to see his brother and I want to get my Eagle cab.
I told him at the very least we had to meet up with you for lunch and have a couple of beers. I will keep you posted.
Post by: Vigo on July 29, 2019, 10:19:21 am
Post by: bperkins01 on July 31, 2019, 07:23:25 am
I came up with going to the shop for just 10 minutes and doing pick up and put away. Even if I didn't sand - it got me in the room..
Then I'd eventually do a little sanding ..
I hate finish work...
Post by: Mike A on July 31, 2019, 07:32:35 am
Post by: bperkins01 on July 31, 2019, 08:55:24 am
:cheers:
Post by: Mike A on July 31, 2019, 09:05:47 am
Post by: bperkins01 on July 31, 2019, 09:10:29 am
Post by: gingecko on July 31, 2019, 01:30:13 pm
Post by: Nephasth on July 31, 2019, 08:52:09 pm
Yes. I am getting paid. It is for a friend. It is a cool ongoing project.
If he don't pay up, break his ---smurfing--- legs!
Post by: Mike A on August 01, 2019, 09:50:23 am
Post by: Nephasth on August 01, 2019, 07:34:56 pm
Post by: Laythe on August 07, 2019, 02:21:10 am
This is where the project slows down. I am ready to paint. I just find every excuse not to start. I will start up soon.
Sir, this thread is titled Mike A's end to procrastination.
I'm just saying.
:D
How's it going?
Post by: Mike A on August 07, 2019, 05:17:12 am
I am sanding the panels in between helping my son's friend build his first cab. I am also knee deep in a project for a friend. Things got busy for me.
Post by: Arroyo on August 07, 2019, 08:21:57 am
Post by: Mike A on August 07, 2019, 08:23:39 am
Post by: Arroyo on August 07, 2019, 08:27:46 am
Post by: Mike A on August 07, 2019, 08:31:07 am
Post by: Mike A on August 14, 2019, 08:48:47 am
My buddy is moving his truck out of my barn on Friday.
I will finally be able to do some painting this weekend.
I tossed around the idea of cutting another cab and do two at once. I have wanted to build a Centipede cabaret for awhile now.
I can move my centipede guts out of the cocktail cab and into a cabaret.
Post by: Titchgamer on August 14, 2019, 08:50:00 am
Go on.....
Post by: Laythe on August 14, 2019, 03:10:39 pm
Painting solidarity. It sucks, but it'll be good in the end. :cheers:
Post by: Mike A on August 14, 2019, 03:12:52 pm
Post by: gingecko on August 14, 2019, 05:06:16 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g5dbSdFImxs/UZLtGnPdnhI/AAAAAAAABow/vGL1hrIT-zA/w988-h502-no/Aracde_Controller_Art.png)
Post by: Mike A on August 14, 2019, 05:12:00 pm
Post by: opt2not on August 14, 2019, 05:20:17 pm
"Art" can be pretty subjective
Yup. That is why mine is being done by a pro.Don't worry, his artwork is going to be cohesive and properly themed.
If you know my work, you know I don't mess around. Some examples for those who haven't seen what I've done: 1 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WJ5U5LnIqko/Uyip-K-dDjI/AAAAAAAAB8M/zystB318GRE/s1600/SideartPASS1_009.jpg), 2 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SerRYlHr0Sw/VqvxLJbbM-I/AAAAAAAACeQ/SNSSiYYPnV0/s1600/Untitled.png), 3 (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0X8vAxAT3YI/Uuga_a873xI/AAAAAAAAB20/6blRDB_EQug/s1600/RetroGeometryWars.jpg), 4 (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ax7topAjYgk/XN8sJpbicOI/AAAAAAAAEWI/C7yzOe5iq4McBQMUZVDZ7fKUaveKSsHtQCLcBGAs/s1600/Untitled-12a.jpg), 5 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C6BwIkqRNRM/UugZC57JkjI/AAAAAAAAB2M/fM3S3JUbXLo/s1600/AntVSPro_ALL_01a.jpg)
Post by: Ond on August 14, 2019, 05:54:49 pm
Post by: Mike A on August 14, 2019, 06:36:32 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on August 15, 2019, 08:22:38 am
Topless wet sanding pics just for you.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/718071c70804048258cb80b9d2e673ec/tenor.gif)
Post by: javeryh on August 16, 2019, 02:57:34 pm
Don't worry, his artwork is going to be cohesive and properly themed.
If you know my work, you know I don't mess around. Some examples for those who haven't seen what I've done: 1 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WJ5U5LnIqko/Uyip-K-dDjI/AAAAAAAAB8M/zystB318GRE/s1600/SideartPASS1_009.jpg), 2 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SerRYlHr0Sw/VqvxLJbbM-I/AAAAAAAACeQ/SNSSiYYPnV0/s1600/Untitled.png), 3 (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0X8vAxAT3YI/Uuga_a873xI/AAAAAAAAB20/6blRDB_EQug/s1600/RetroGeometryWars.jpg), 4 (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ax7topAjYgk/XN8sJpbicOI/AAAAAAAAEWI/C7yzOe5iq4McBQMUZVDZ7fKUaveKSsHtQCLcBGAs/s1600/Untitled-12a.jpg), 5 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C6BwIkqRNRM/UugZC57JkjI/AAAAAAAAB2M/fM3S3JUbXLo/s1600/AntVSPro_ALL_01a.jpg)
That Geometry Wars art is so good. I'd love to see someone make a dedicated cab using it.
Post by: opt2not on August 16, 2019, 03:01:30 pm
That Geometry Wars art is so good. I'd love to see someone make a dedicated cab using it.
Thanks! And someone did (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,131784.0/all.html)!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrhp8DwB3hs
Post by: javeryh on August 16, 2019, 03:43:07 pm
That Geometry Wars art is so good. I'd love to see someone make a dedicated cab using it.
Thanks! And someone did (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,131784.0/all.html)!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrhp8DwB3hs
That came out really really nice. A widescreen cabinet I actually like - who would have thought?
Post by: Mike A on August 16, 2019, 05:46:11 pm
Post by: Mike A on August 16, 2019, 05:57:01 pm
Post by: opt2not on August 16, 2019, 06:23:06 pm
Post by: Nephasth on August 16, 2019, 08:54:25 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on August 19, 2019, 08:22:46 am
Don't mind me. Just postin' a selfie of me waiting for Mike to post about this cab.
Post by: Mike A on August 19, 2019, 08:36:23 am
I am working on a project for a friend. I had to hammer out a few details.
I am also driving with my son to move him in to college this afternoon.
We have been packing and spending some time hanging out. He will be far enough away that I won't see him probably until Thanksgiving.
It is hitting me harder than I thought it would. We are really close, especially close after my wife died. We like a lot of the same books, music, and movies.
He plays drums, bass, piano, and synthesizer. It is going to be very odd not hearing electronic music one minute and classical piano the next, coming out of his room.
I am happy and proud that he is moving forward with his life, it is just sad for me right now. He is a smart kid and a good student. He could end up getting a job halfway across the country. I just have to adjust to my new reality.
I had all of my sanding and painting stuff lined up and ready to go, but I just couldn't get motivated to do it this weekend.
I did drill all of the holes for my control panel and I ordered the coin doors. So that is something at least.
Post by: gingecko on August 19, 2019, 11:18:13 am
Mike, hang in there, motivation will come. Sometimes it just requires a break and the inspiration hits.
Post by: Mike A on August 19, 2019, 11:21:30 am
I will get back to this soon. Right now I have to concentrate on getting a project delivered.
Post by: Arroyo on August 19, 2019, 12:17:49 pm
Post by: Mike A on August 19, 2019, 12:36:17 pm
Well at lest you got a successful kid whose going to college, I only hope I can say the same some day. My youngest is either going to be the CEO of a large company or doing 5-10 in Quentin. :o
Lots of people do both.
Post by: bperkins01 on August 19, 2019, 04:31:18 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on August 20, 2019, 02:05:51 pm
I am also driving with my son to move him in to college this afternoon.
We have been packing and spending some time hanging out. He will be far enough away that I won't see him probably until Thanksgiving.
It is hitting me harder than I thought it would. We are really close, especially close after my wife died. We like a lot of the same books, music, and movies.
He plays drums, bass, piano, and synthesizer. It is going to be very odd not hearing electronic music one minute and classical piano the next, coming out of his room.
I am happy and proud that he is moving forward with his life, it is just sad for me right now. He is a smart kid and a good student. He could end up getting a job halfway across the country. I just have to adjust to my new reality.
(https://i.imgur.com/F7n2EDw.gif)
Well at lest you got a successful kid whose going to college, I only hope I can say the same some day. My youngest is either going to be the CEO of a large company or doing 5-10 in Quentin. :o
Sometimes the only thing that separates a criminal and a business man is suit.
Post by: Mike A on August 20, 2019, 03:21:59 pm
Post by: pbj on August 20, 2019, 05:01:42 pm
:dunno
Post by: Mike A on August 20, 2019, 05:39:59 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on August 20, 2019, 05:42:58 pm
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Post by: nexusmtz on August 21, 2019, 04:32:08 am
Post by: Titchgamer on August 21, 2019, 04:52:03 am
Its was:
A) Go to college and stay here with me.
B) Go to get a job and find ya own place to live.
Being a Smart ass and wanting my own space I went with B of course.
I never regretted that decision but I do feel somewhat cheated as I got a apprenticeship and still spent the most part of 10 years in college lol
Either way absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that jazz Mike.
I am sure he will be missing you just as much and now when you do get to see each other it will be even more meaningfull.
Ime still close to my mum but probably only see her 3 or 4 times a year but chat on the phone once a week.
Post by: Mike A on August 21, 2019, 06:30:42 am
I am more focused on hoping he makes the adjustment quickly and jumps into college life.
Post by: Titchgamer on August 21, 2019, 06:33:18 am
Post by: Mike A on August 21, 2019, 06:41:32 am
I also stopped drinking completely for 15 years when I had kids.
Post by: Titchgamer on August 21, 2019, 07:22:02 am
Post by: gingecko on August 21, 2019, 03:28:16 pm
Think kids would drive me to drink lol
You would think so, but they make me too tired to even lift a damned can of beer!
Post by: Mike A on September 08, 2019, 12:23:32 pm
This week I am busy with party prep. I have a lot of small arcade issues to work on.
There is also the minor matter of prepping to rewire about 80 percent of my house. I have been putting it off for a long time, but I have an electrician that is available to help me on a quid pro quo basis that doesn't involve butt stuff. I can do the job, but he has tools and experience that will make the job much less painful.
He will be helping me the week after my party.
Right after that will be prep for my Halloween party. Throwing a party every month is a lot of work, but it encourages me to keep my house clean.
I am not a dirty person, but I am messy by nature. I am bad at putting things away. My wife was a counter balance to that messiness.
My CNC machine is back in working order and my new laser tube is working great. If any of you locals ever bother to show up at one of my parties we could discuss ways I could help you out with projects.
Post by: bperkins01 on September 08, 2019, 12:39:14 pm
Post by: Mike A on September 08, 2019, 12:42:30 pm
Post by: jennifer on September 08, 2019, 12:45:54 pm
Post by: Arroyo on September 08, 2019, 12:59:33 pm
Post by: Mike A on September 08, 2019, 01:01:06 pm
Post by: Arroyo on September 08, 2019, 01:22:28 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on September 08, 2019, 02:00:50 pm
Post by: Mike A on September 08, 2019, 02:02:37 pm
We are neighbors astronomically speaking.
Post by: bperkins01 on September 08, 2019, 02:12:16 pm
My prior company was located in Skokie - I had to fly out there a few times a year.
Post by: opt2not on September 08, 2019, 03:45:12 pm
Post by: javeryh on September 09, 2019, 02:38:11 pm
Post by: Mike A on September 09, 2019, 02:43:31 pm
He decided to make the trip home for my birthday. This weekend is going to be one for the history books.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on September 10, 2019, 11:53:44 am
This weekend is going to be one for the history books.
Not the arcade building history books it seems the way this build is going.
Post by: Mike A on September 10, 2019, 11:57:09 am
Post by: gingecko on September 10, 2019, 02:45:45 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on September 11, 2019, 08:42:15 am
I might be done painting by the end of the weekend. I know my cab will be done before you show your face at Zapcon.Truth.
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2019, 08:02:15 am
I would like to know what kind of ID plate or sticker they put on them.
Pics would be greatly appreciated.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on September 23, 2019, 08:26:45 am
Pics would be greatly appreciated.
You can say that again.
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2019, 08:29:08 am
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2019, 08:32:55 am
The sides are painted. They are flat and ready for artwork. They are not pretty, but they don't need to be.
The front panel is painted. The speaker panel, top panel and back are all primed.
Did I mention I hate painting?
Post by: Laythe on September 23, 2019, 10:53:54 am
Paint is 80% Pain.
Looking forward to the pics.
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2019, 10:57:12 am
Vertical laminate is far easier, and it is more cost effective.
You guys that have the patience to paint and sand and paint and sand, and paint and sand again have my respect.
Post by: Arroyo on September 23, 2019, 11:41:57 am
EDIT: BTW I saw the cab IRL, and it is professional work. All the cuts are clean, and the speaker holes came out awesome. Looking forward to when Mikey gets off his but and finishes the paint work ;D. Oh and I am stupid envious of that barn.
Post by: opt2not on September 23, 2019, 02:37:30 pm
Good to hear the cab is ready for artwork.
Once things have settled done with our move, I'll get firing on your art and hopefully can turn something around before you finish the cabinet completely.
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2019, 02:43:25 pm
Post by: jennifer on September 23, 2019, 02:47:03 pm
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2019, 02:59:54 pm
Post by: jennifer on September 23, 2019, 03:16:50 pm
Post by: opt2not on September 23, 2019, 04:37:37 pm
It may be worth noting cabs were painted hundreds a day back in the day to make deadlines, and some are less than others...Just do it and stop the sniviling.Also worth noting that cabinets were painted using proper tools and set-ups, where as most of us use our garage, rollers, and sand paper.
I would love a proper paint booth, with a good paint gun.
Post by: yotsuya on September 23, 2019, 05:48:05 pm
It may be worth noting cabs were painted hundreds a day back in the day to make deadlines, and some are less than others...Just do it and stop the sniviling.Also worth noting that cabinets were painted using proper tools and set-ups, where as most of us use our garage, rollers, and sand paper.
I would love a proper paint booth, with a good paint gun.
I just used my HF paint gun for the first time this weekend. Pretty happy with the results.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/f23c0ea49399eeb2630cff1b82e2c011.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/08171719a9435cf67c6640fa55121061.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/f886f5d94e2089decda68c9363b4a3bf.jpg)
Post by: jennifer on September 24, 2019, 05:10:03 am
Post by: yotsuya on September 24, 2019, 10:15:31 am
Omg...nice coverage, don't see any runs NAILED IT!...the finish if not done on purpose would be my guess would be low air pressure...When you pull the trigger it should blow out of there like genie smoke, with your fan as big as possible on a piece like that.
Jen-
Thanks! I didn’t do a lot of lights coats - rather, I did each side until it was covered. Next test, I’m going to do coat by coat and see what happens.
Post by: pbj on September 24, 2019, 10:56:30 am
Post by: yotsuya on September 24, 2019, 12:22:28 pm
Why is your window lined with chicken wire? Are you taking "gameroom" design advice from Malenko?
Bro, that’s not a window, that’s a Chip and Joanna Magazine Holder Rack straight from Waco.
Post by: pbj on September 24, 2019, 12:23:31 pm
Post by: yotsuya on September 24, 2019, 12:27:47 pm
Oh, so it's just decorative chicken wire. Nice.
All the hipsters are doing it, along with shiplap. It’s the new marble.
Post by: pbj on September 24, 2019, 12:37:42 pm
Post by: yotsuya on September 25, 2019, 01:58:41 am
Waco is a strange place full of strange people. My knowledge of those home renovator people is limited to a Texas Monthly profile and I'm content to leave it at that.
For reference:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190925/16f3c3a626d0bc7c4a5ff8cf1011aacc.jpg)
Post by: Vigo on September 25, 2019, 08:09:42 am
Post by: yotsuya on September 25, 2019, 11:34:44 am
What kind of turntable you have? Is that a Fluance?
Hell jess bro!
Post by: jdbailey1206 on September 25, 2019, 02:34:44 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190925/16f3c3a626d0bc7c4a5ff8cf1011aacc.jpg)
What are all those weird, large, flat things? Laser discs? My dad told me about those!
Post by: Vigo on September 26, 2019, 08:45:05 am
What kind of turntable you have? Is that a Fluance?
Hell jess bro!
Sweet, I got a Fluance turntable a couple months ago, but haven't used it yet. I am forcing myself to go a build a stand for it before I am allowing myself to use it. It was easily one of the best looking turntables on the market, and hopefully great sounding too.
Post by: yotsuya on September 26, 2019, 09:41:34 am
What kind of turntable you have? Is that a Fluance?
Hell jess bro!
Sweet, I got a Fluance turntable a couple months ago, but haven't used it yet. I am forcing myself to go a build a stand for it before I am allowing myself to use it. It was easily one of the best looking turntables on the market, and hopefully great sounding too.
Nice - I went and bought a Kallax from Ikea, added some hairpin legs, and have an instant record center now. ;)
Post by: Mike A on September 30, 2019, 08:31:06 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=379438;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=379439;image)
My coin doors should arrive tomorrow. I need to get them installed so I can see how much room I have to mount multiple PCBs.
Post by: Arroyo on September 30, 2019, 08:41:09 am
Post by: Laythe on September 30, 2019, 10:54:30 am
Post by: gingecko on September 30, 2019, 10:56:52 am
Post by: Mike A on September 30, 2019, 11:01:14 am
The monitor is a 25 Inch CRT mounted horizontally.
Post by: Mike A on September 30, 2019, 11:10:35 am
Post by: gingecko on September 30, 2019, 12:37:57 pm
Post by: Mike A on September 30, 2019, 12:43:52 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on September 30, 2019, 12:45:15 pm
Post by: Mike A on September 30, 2019, 12:52:28 pm
Post by: gingecko on September 30, 2019, 12:56:36 pm
It wasn't a real game.
Yep, I meant it would be cool if you did have an X-Men vs Simpsons game to go with it. Maybe some game designer will see your cab and get inspired to make the thing. I'd love to see that.
Post by: Mike A on September 30, 2019, 12:58:26 pm
Post by: opt2not on September 30, 2019, 02:12:16 pm
I'll have to re-confirm the dimensions with you for the artwork spaces.
Post by: Mike A on September 30, 2019, 02:15:22 pm
Post by: Mike A on October 16, 2019, 11:19:18 am
I wired up the isolation transformer. I ran the ground to the coin doors. I pinned a molex connector for the monitor signal cable. I had to rethink my monitor mounting solution. I scavenged a
different 25 inch monitor frame from a source online. It has side flanges for mounting to the sides of the cab. I wired the power supply. I wired a fan to draw air from under the cab.
Not very exciting stuff. I will take some pics eventually.
My multiJAMMA board, my 3 & 4 player condenser board and my 2 to 3 button adapter should be arriving soon. Then I can get to work wiring the Jamma harness.
I am going to test fit the monitor this weekend so I can see where I have room for my JAMMA PCB shelf.
When all of those boards come in I will do a little write up on what they all do.
I figured out what buttons and joysticks I am going to use.
I am going to use Arcadeshop reproduction Wico colored balltop shafts with original Wico bases.
I couldn't readily match button colors with the ball tops with original leaf buttons. I am going to make a compromise and use GGG push buttons with the true leaf switches.
Post by: bperkins01 on October 16, 2019, 12:34:36 pm
Interested to hear what all those boards do..
cuz I've heard of them.. but that's about it.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on October 16, 2019, 01:36:56 pm
I will take some pics eventually.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xUySTNfFds1K3phXmo/giphy.gif)
Post by: gingecko on October 16, 2019, 01:37:45 pm
Post by: Mike A on October 16, 2019, 01:50:51 pm
I will take some pics eventually.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xUySTNfFds1K3phXmo/giphy.gif)
I will print out some pics and hand them to you at Zapcon.
Post by: bperkins01 on October 16, 2019, 02:55:02 pm
I will take some pics eventually.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xUySTNfFds1K3phXmo/giphy.gif)
I will print out some pics and hand them to you at Zapcon.
well played..
Post by: Arroyo on October 16, 2019, 06:23:20 pm
Post by: Mike A on October 16, 2019, 06:53:18 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on October 17, 2019, 08:01:03 am
Post by: Mike A on October 17, 2019, 08:04:12 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on October 17, 2019, 08:15:26 am
Well you know that drain doesn't lead to Zapcon if jdbailey crawls in.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/eeb8d2865e59738baebe1287586b4f72/tenor.gif)
I can hear this gif.
Post by: gingecko on October 17, 2019, 12:45:00 pm
Post by: Mike A on October 17, 2019, 01:23:53 pm
That is why I keep preaching to everyone to look at the original machines for inspiration. They were built with utility in mind.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on October 17, 2019, 01:40:56 pm
Just like most real arcade machines. 1 piece. It is held in place with a barrel lock at the top.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2874/12324226163_7bf328513b_c.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3769/12104688276_09e53f11f2_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7424/12104688066_ab00dcedf2_c.jpg)
gingecko reference the photos from my Nintendo cab. The top photo shows how the back door is just one panel with a hole at the top where the lock sets in. The back door just sits into the back of cab resting on the square dowels on the sides (I ran a router on the inside of my cab so the door would rest in the cab in lieu of square dowels) and the 2 inch pieces of wood that stick out from the top and bottom of main body of the cab.
Post by: gingecko on October 18, 2019, 03:34:54 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on October 18, 2019, 04:14:28 pm
Post by: Nephasth on October 18, 2019, 04:26:22 pm
...make sure you account for the joint in your overall door dimensions.
Post by: Mike A on October 18, 2019, 07:54:42 pm
Post by: Mike A on October 21, 2019, 08:21:39 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=379744;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=379746;image)
Everything is good so far. The multiJAMMA board powers up. Super High Impact powered up and the monitor works just fine.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=379745;image)
Anycoin mechs are installed.
I have a bunch more wiring to do. The JAMMA harness I bought was not as advertised. The description said it was wired for -5v and coin switches. There was no -5v lead and only coin 1 had a lead. It wasn't a big deal, but I specifically bought that one so I would have less modding to do. I sent them an email about it and I have yet to get a response back. I am going to call them in the next few days.
Next up is to tidy up the wiring. I am not going to clip the harness short. I am going to bundle and zip tie wires that are too long. There are too many times in the past where I have changed my mind on something and then had to do a bunch of rewiring.
I need to install the PCB rack that will hold 5 or six games depending on how much room I have in the cab.
My buttons and joystick shafts are on the way.
I just bought a Trog PCB and a Simpsons PCB. They will be arriving this week.
This is not a budget build.
Post by: bperkins01 on October 21, 2019, 08:40:02 am
I love wiring stuff..
Had no idea what an anycoin was... but that is brilliant.. a dumb piece of plastic.. :applaud:
I'll admit I don't know much of anything about the circuit boards - there is a new one (I'm guessing the multiJamma since it has repeating sections.)
then an obviously old board that is a game..
I'm guessing the Jamma board allows you to plug in a bunch of different 'original' boards so you can have a multi-arcade with original boards?
That's some dedication..
Let me know if I have that right.
Post by: Mike A on October 21, 2019, 08:49:31 am
It has inputs and outputs for stereo sound. You plug the stereo wires from your JAMMA boards into headers on the multiJAMMA board.
There is a jumper you enable for each board. Stereo or mono.
The boards that are mono will play through the left speaker. The stereo boards will use both speakers.
This had to be done because stereo sound is not a JAMMA feature.
I will do a little write up on the multiJAMMA board for anyone that is interested.
Oh and I might throw an Arpicade on the 6th JAMMA slot to cover all of the games for which I don't own original PCBs.
Post by: Titchgamer on October 21, 2019, 09:18:12 am
Very interested in your multi jamma write up.
Especially more info on this stereo/mono switching :)
Post by: gingecko on October 21, 2019, 01:38:26 pm
You've piqued my interest in the JAMMA boards. I know next to nothing about them, and am probably better off running a PC, but I'm curious. Especially the multi-game option. That curiosity would probably turn to a lump in my throat once I knew how much the board and original PCBs run. Either way, eager to see what comes next!
Post by: Mike A on October 21, 2019, 01:46:57 pm
Original PCBs are not cheap. Especially the 4 player Konami boards.
There are some FPGA boards out there that kind of bridge the gap between MAME and original hardware.
Post by: opt2not on October 21, 2019, 03:28:28 pm
I just bought a Trog PCB and a Simpsons PCB. They will be arriving this week.Nice, you got a Simpsons board! Must have been a good deal. I thought you were going to wait?
Original PCBs are not cheap. Especially the 4 player Konami boards.Original Konami 4P boards have gone bonkers lately. Most games are $300+ these days.
Post by: Mike A on January 22, 2020, 06:47:27 pm
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Post by: javeryh on January 22, 2020, 07:32:02 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on January 22, 2020, 07:43:08 pm
Post by: Mike A on January 22, 2020, 07:47:29 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on January 22, 2020, 09:21:02 pm
Good luck!
Post by: Mike A on January 22, 2020, 09:26:32 pm
Then they sand the cars and paint them.
Post by: bperkins01 on January 22, 2020, 09:31:00 pm
The boys had fun painting them however :cheers:
Post by: Arroyo on January 22, 2020, 11:49:47 pm
Baby steps
3 months since the last post, and people call me slow..... ::)
Glad to see you back at it. Time for you to be a little more me oriented (unless I call), and get this bad boy done!
Post by: nitrogen_widget on January 24, 2020, 09:14:07 pm
Yea - they did that too.. Then the adults added the weights, measured them in grams on the scale, polished the wheels axles..
The boys had fun painting them however :cheers:
I lost pinewood derby the few times i did it.
badly.
my dad insisted I made my own.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on January 27, 2020, 08:25:21 am
I will take some pics eventually.
I will print out some pics and hand them to you at Zapcon.
You better bring me some updated pics in April because I know you still won't be done mother scratcher. ;D
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 08:26:00 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381139;image)
...to work on arcade ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381140;image)
Sorting out the wiring situation.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381141;image)
It lives!
As it stands right now, if I had my controls mounted I could play games right now.
-I still need to figure out a way to not go through all of the work Opt did to make a monitor shroud.(which looks great BTW)
-I need to fabricate a bunch of cables for the games that support stereo sound and the P3 and P4 controls.
Both of those tasks would be relatively simple except that I am not just using Konami games.
-Once my artwork is done I can apply it and mount the controls.
-I need to make brackets to hold all of the PCBs that will be in the machine.
I mounted each PCB to a piece of 1/4 inch hardboard that has the same dimensions. I have the same setup in my Time Pilot cab and my candy cab. I can slide PCBs out of any of those cabs and interchange them.
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 08:26:48 am
I will take some pics eventually.
I will print out some pics and hand them to you at Zapcon.
You better bring me some updated pics in April because I know you still won't be done mother scratcher. ;D
Ask and ye shall receive.
Post by: bperkins01 on January 27, 2020, 08:31:14 am
I do appreciate a fine wiring job. Keep them coming!
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 08:37:21 am
I don't sleeve my wires or measure and mark where my clamps are going to go. I am not that meticulous.
I also don't just chuck the wires in a pile and forget about them. I am not a total slob.
I will sometimes splice wires rather than rerun them.
I use loose clamps so I can pull more wires through in the future.
I will bundle wires rather than cut them shorter and repin them. I never know if I will need that extra wire someday.
I use lots of zip ties to tidy things up.
Post by: Arroyo on January 27, 2020, 08:38:56 am
I can see the pain on your face on that wiring job. That’s a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- load of work.
Looks like you will be using a wiring harness from the PCB switcher to the game boards. You rolling those by hand or buying them somewhere?
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 08:41:48 am
I am just going to buy them. A dude on KLOV makes some really sweet ones, but he wants a bazillion dollars for them. I am just going to buy simple extenders from Arcadeshop or Mike's Arcade.
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 08:43:23 am
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 08:45:27 am
Post by: bperkins01 on January 27, 2020, 08:46:30 am
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 08:48:33 am
Post by: Arroyo on January 27, 2020, 09:07:13 am
Oh, and thanks a lot. I just burned 100 bucks ordering a zero play stick for my Defender cab. That is your fault for sticking the idea in my head.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200127/5a00ca5db23f1cf9d42c8c423c1c7f16.jpg)
Oh and by the way, my kid just took 3rd place on Tempest. You’ve been officially wiped from the scoreboard......I foresee a flight to the West Coast in short order, lest you are comfortable being bested by an 8 year old.
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 09:09:05 am
You beating me? I will not tolerate that.
Post by: Arroyo on January 27, 2020, 09:20:37 am
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 09:22:35 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on January 27, 2020, 11:25:29 am
Yesterday was a beautiful day...
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381139;image)
Oh that Mid West snow fall....
-I still need to figure out a way to not go through all of the work Opt did to make a monitor shroud.(which looks great BTW)
Did he send it to you or you know how Opt made one and you don't want to do it? From the tutorials I have seen online it looks fairly simple. A little searching should warrant someone who makes them out of mat board.
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 11:29:11 am
I have a couple of ideas brewing. Of course that might just be the baked ziti from last night.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on January 27, 2020, 11:40:04 am
It is straight forward, but getting the curve right seems to have taken him some time.
I have a couple of ideas brewing. Of course that might just be the baked ziti from last night.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=17175
Don't know if that helps but its one I have found while digging for my SW cab.
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 11:42:26 am
Post by: opt2not on January 27, 2020, 12:03:11 pm
-Once my artwork is done I can apply it and mount the controls.I need to get on it soon. I’ve been pulling late nights doing OT (luckily working OT from home), and haven’t had time for any hobby stuff. Must be the universe balancing out from that frantic restore schedule I forced before the holiday break.
Your art is my priority now once I get some hobby time.
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 12:05:18 pm
It will be done when it is done.
Post by: opt2not on January 27, 2020, 12:06:29 pm
Post by: Mike A on January 27, 2020, 12:08:08 pm
Post by: Mike A on February 02, 2020, 09:13:36 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381215;image)
Here is a shot of it in the cab but not secured yet.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381216;image)
The player 3 and 4 condenser board will be mounted above the rack.
I thought I was going to have to pin about a bazillion dupont connectors for this project, but it turns out they can be purchased at a reasonable price.
There stereo sound connectors on the multi PCB are all 4 pin dupont headers. Same with the stereo headers on the PCBs. 4x12 = 48 pins.
The P3 and P4 controls on the PCBs are each 15 pins for the Konami games and I haven't even really looked at the non Konami pin outs yet. Right now that is 2 Konami games. 15x4 = 60 pins.
I have 2 other 4 player PCBs right now. Assuming they are similar to Konami that would be 60 more pins.
If you add all of those pins together....you have some kind of mental problem. It is a lot. Especially considering I already need to pin the molex headers for the CP connections.
For those of you who are good at counting, yes there are 7 slots in my rack and only 6 slots in the multi PCB board.
I did that for positioning. some of these arcade PCBs have and auxiliary sound PCB. They take up more space so I put in an extra slot to help with positioning.
I am going to slap together a temporary control panel so this thing will be playable for my arcade party later this month.
Post by: Arroyo on February 02, 2020, 09:23:05 am
Post by: Mike A on February 02, 2020, 09:34:39 am
My new arcade layout makes it easy to access the back door of all of my games. I will post pics of that later. Every game has been moved.
I have the same slot system in my candy cab. PCBs are interchangeable between the two.
Post by: javeryh on February 02, 2020, 12:38:19 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on February 02, 2020, 01:28:27 pm
I won't even mention the reach around.
I have a better idea of what your doing now - looks really cool!
However - I'd relish wiring up a ton of Dupont pins myself - But I get its not for everyone.
Keep 'em coming :applaud:
Post by: pbj on February 02, 2020, 02:07:31 pm
Post by: Vigo on February 02, 2020, 05:34:30 pm
Don't forget to dim the lights first.
Post by: Mike A on February 03, 2020, 08:09:46 am
Post by: Vigo on February 03, 2020, 08:24:28 am
Also looking forward to seeing that Moo Mesa getting popped in. You got that game hyped for me.
Post by: Mike A on February 03, 2020, 08:29:44 am
I cut a temporary CP last night. This week will be spent wiring the CP and wiring the P3/P4 condenser board.
This machine will be playable very soon.
Post by: Mike A on February 07, 2020, 07:51:39 am
I laid out my tools and materials to crimp the molex connectors for the CP and I realized I have every damn molex connector except the 9 pin connectors. I need 4 male and 4 female.
I ordered those last night along with a purple ball top shaft for my P2 joystick.
If I had the molex connectors this cab would be playable by tonight.
Post by: bperkins01 on February 07, 2020, 08:02:55 am
I'm a bit lucky - we have a real electronics store about 25 min away. They have a very good selection of all of these types of things.
The decision is - is the drive worth my anxiety to get something done.. 95% of the time = yes.
Post by: Mike A on February 07, 2020, 08:14:56 am
Post by: bperkins01 on February 07, 2020, 08:21:28 am
They don't have EVERYTHING... But they have a lot! and its pretty well staffed. Only once or twice they didn't have some weird part I needed.
A 3 pin molex panel mount connector - ended up in China for that one.. (replaced broken one on my power brick)
and a couple of tiny ceramic caps..
The last few years of Radio shack here - they never had anything.. ahhh the good old days..
Post by: Mike A on February 07, 2020, 05:20:06 pm
I dug out some 12 pin connectors.
Post by: bperkins01 on February 07, 2020, 05:45:45 pm
Crimping a million molex pins. Oh what fun.So much fun. If I were there....
I dug out some 12 pin connectors.
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Post by: Mike A on February 07, 2020, 07:25:02 pm
Wild West Cowboys of Moo Mesa is glitching out when I run sound through the stereo header.
When I unplug it and run mono through the JAMMA connector it works fine. Oh well. That is a problem for another day.
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 08, 2020, 10:10:39 am
I knew if I posted enough pics that Vigo would want to make sexy time with my arcade machine.
Is that Baltic birch plywood?
Post by: Mike A on February 08, 2020, 10:15:01 am
Post by: Mike A on February 08, 2020, 10:20:21 am
Post by: Mike A on February 08, 2020, 10:27:25 am
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Post by: jdbailey1206 on February 08, 2020, 10:50:06 am
That is a problem for another day.
Word. No sense in cleaning the windows on a new house if your roof isn’t on.
Post by: Mike A on February 11, 2020, 08:56:24 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381300;image)
Trog
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381301;image)
Wild West COWboys of Moo Mesa
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381302;image)
I need to do some monitor tweaking for color, contrast, and brightness.
I found a vertical hold setting that all of the games like.
Trog plays like ass with 8 way sticks. I was hoping to get away with it since it is not a super skill high score seeking game.
The problem is it is too frustrating. I need to see if different sticks work better. Otherwise Trog will need a dedicated 4 player 4 way stick cab, or I will need to use 4 to 8 way switchable sticks. I am not happy about either option.
Post by: Mike A on February 11, 2020, 08:58:16 am
I think I will replace the white start buttons with buttons that match the player controls.
Post by: javeryh on February 11, 2020, 09:30:08 am
Post by: Arroyo on February 11, 2020, 09:58:48 am
....I am not happy about either option.
Swappable panels? Swappable sticks?
Swappable panels seems pretty cumbersome but may be an option.
You may recall I put a mounting plate in my test control panel to swap sticks (wing-nuts for ease of unscrewing and Molex connectors for easy electrical swap). You wouldn’t need the metal plates if all your joysticks were a Happ pattern. Biggest problem there would be if those are original Wico’s (ball top doesn’t screw off) then it’s more involved to remove them and put them back in. If you were to consider this option perhaps the reproduction versions have screw tops for the balls and it might make this option more viable.....:dunno:
Post by: Mike A on February 11, 2020, 10:02:45 am
I either need to find sticks that are a decent compromise or more likely, Trog gets its own cab.
This cab has a multi switcher. I can switch games from the CP in seconds. That all goes down the toilet if I have to swap panels or switch sticks.
Post by: Arroyo on February 11, 2020, 10:11:31 am
Want many games....not enough space. Put many games on one machine....controls don’t all work. Build big Frankenpanel....it all kinda sucks. We need to become millionaires and have our own warehouse
Post by: bperkins01 on February 11, 2020, 10:14:41 am
LEDBlinky switches then back/forth..
Looks good :)
Post by: Mike A on February 11, 2020, 10:23:11 am
I know what you mean. I feel forever stuck in the land of arcade compromise.
Want many games....not enough space. Put many games on one machine....controls don’t all work. Build big Frankenpanel....it all kinda sucks. We need to become millionaires and have our own warehouse
I have the space. I just don't feel like building another cab right now. Maybe it is time to start stalking Craigslist for a 4 player junk cab.
I am in the middle of a major arcade room rehab.
Post by: javeryh on February 11, 2020, 10:30:05 am
Children and adults with the minds of children play my games. Even switchable 4 to 8 way sticks will be a pain in the ass at parties.
I either need to find sticks that are a decent compromise or more likely, Trog gets its own cab.
This cab has a multi switcher. I can switch games from the CP in seconds. That all goes down the toilet if I have to swap panels or switch sticks.
What about a ServoStick? Could that be configured to switch automatically using the boards? It obviously works with a PC. I agree that if guests have to trigger the switch themselves it will be a disaster.
Post by: bperkins01 on February 11, 2020, 10:39:39 am
Post by: Mike A on February 11, 2020, 10:53:39 am
Post by: Vigo on February 11, 2020, 10:04:12 pm
Oh, and 1000 points to Gryfindor for using Wico ball tops. I would expect no less from your work.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NippyJubilantGecko-size_restricted.gif)
Post by: Mike A on February 11, 2020, 10:09:53 pm
Post by: Vigo on February 11, 2020, 10:22:10 pm
Been meaning to try leaf pros for a while. Glad they are working out so far. 8)
Post by: Mike A on February 11, 2020, 10:24:46 pm
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 08:24:18 am
I tried to save time by purchasing dupont cables for the P3/P4 harnesses. They worked fine, but they looked like ass and there were too many individual connections.
I bit the bullet and ordered up a bunch of Molex .100 connectors and pins. I will post pics of that process too.
While I was purchasing those I also ordered .156 molex connectors and pins to replace the interconnect cables on my Trog and Super High Impact PCBs.
Today I am driving in to the city to pick up a burn free working 19 inch electrohome, and a 25 inch Wells Gardner in similar shape.
Hey Vigo, I am going to need you to please measure the panels on your Trog cab. It is time to scratch build a Trog. Hell Yeah!
I think I may have been in a mild depression that slowed down my arcade work. I seem to have busted out of that.
It is hard to realize when it is happening because it doesn't affect my mood anymore like it did in the 2 years after my wife died. It just manifests in a lack of motivation.
Post by: javeryh on February 21, 2020, 09:15:06 am
I'm super jealous you have a CNC machine. Is it easy to operate? How big of a piece of material can you cut on it? If I had one of those I'd be cutting out 5 cabs every weekend and
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 09:24:28 am
I don't use it for cabs because it is easy to cut cabs with conventional tools.
Post by: Gilrock on February 21, 2020, 10:10:19 am
Glad you keep moving this along. I know a thing or two about taking my time but as long as you finish then who cares how long it takes.
I'm super jealous you have a CNC machine. Is it easy to operate? How big of a piece of material can you cut on it? If I had one of those I'd be cutting out 5 cabs every weekend andadmiringcrying over the giant stack of unassembled plywood/MDF in the garage.
Oh yeah well I'm jealous because you're not using a CNC so everyone pays attention to you build. :)
They look at mine and go pfftt well of course he's using a CNC.
The funny thing is I've wasted a half hour creating a design/toolpath in Aspire and then setting up the CNC just so I can cutout a rectangle...lol.
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 10:18:10 am
A CNC machine is great if you are making a dozen or more of the same thing.
The CNC machine is good for CP tops that require pockets for the joysticks. The setup time is roughly the same for hand routing with templates and CNC setup.
Post by: pbj on February 21, 2020, 10:22:55 am
Post by: javeryh on February 21, 2020, 10:26:23 am
Glad you keep moving this along. I know a thing or two about taking my time but as long as you finish then who cares how long it takes.
I'm super jealous you have a CNC machine. Is it easy to operate? How big of a piece of material can you cut on it? If I had one of those I'd be cutting out 5 cabs every weekend andadmiringcrying over the giant stack of unassembled plywood/MDF in the garage.
Oh yeah well I'm jealous because you're not using a CNC so everyone pays attention to you build. :)
They look at mine and go pfftt well of course he's using a CNC.
The funny thing is I've wasted a half hour creating a design/toolpath in Aspire and then setting up the CNC just so I can cutout a rectangle...lol.
Ha! Grass is always greener... I just think designing something on a computer and then cutting it out with a CNC is so freaking cool. Like printing your own puzzle with giant interlocking pieces that fit perfectly. Of course, I'd have to learn how to actually get the picture out of my head and into the computer. But I think I'd rather have a "perfect" cabinet from a CNC than some of the imperfections... I mean "character" that my cabs always end up with!
Mike - what do you use the CNC for? Cutting smaller parts like brackets or do you like woodworking in general and use it to build coffee tables and book cases?
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 10:41:44 am
wine rack toppers for a local liquor distributor. My machine worked well, but it was slow. The liquor distributor orders piled up so I bought a CNC machine that was much faster.
The wine rack toppers were carved with their company logo.
I don't use it a whole lot anymore.
Do yourself a favor. Learn how to do real woodworking. Everybody thinks a CNC machine is a magical device for building arcade machines. It is easier to build an arcade cab
without one.
I could buy a good table saw, jointer, planer, track saw, router, and jigsaw and still be ahead of a full 4 x 8 CNC machine.
The only reason I own a CNC machine is that I had to do production scale work.
Post by: Gilrock on February 21, 2020, 11:25:34 am
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 11:29:44 am
Post by: javeryh on February 21, 2020, 11:36:07 am
Post by: Gilrock on February 21, 2020, 11:50:37 am
Or tap your table saw fence an eighth inch and spend 3 seconds cutting it. ;)
Yeah not that simple for the control panel. I've got a 2.2mm pocket for the metal dust cover plate, a 4.5mm oval pocket for the dust washer to slide in, rectangular pockets underneath for the 2 way joysticks, and since its already on the CNC I let it cutout the button pockets which have a smaller diameter through hole and larger diameter shelf. I don't feel bad about using the machine because for one I gotta use skills to design the files and create the toolpaths and I've paid my dues over the years from back when I used to cut things out with a jigsaw and sand to the pencil line with a belt sander.
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 11:56:42 am
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 11:58:51 am
Post by: Vigo on February 21, 2020, 05:17:47 pm
https://www.v1engineering.com/lowrider-cnc/
Hey Vigo, I am going to need you to please measure the panels on your Trog cab. It is time to scratch build a Trog. Hell Yeah!
I'll work to get you accurate measurements in the next few days! :cheers:
Post by: Arroyo on February 21, 2020, 06:36:00 pm
I considered making one of these that stores vertically so I can have a large format CNC in my tiny garage -
https://www.v1engineering.com/lowrider-cnc/
I’ve been eyeing that same one. Seemed like a good solution and good price point.
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 07:15:25 pm
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 07:22:03 pm
Post by: PL1 on February 21, 2020, 09:37:46 pm
That thing will not work the way you want it to.
On top of no rigitity in the frame, belts suck bad. They stretch constantly and have to be readjusted. They are just a cheap ass short cut. They are not meant to be used under loads experienced by a CNC router.(https://frm-wows-us.wgcdn.co/wows_forum_us/monthly_2019_04/Lighten_Up_Francis.png.a2b4802ffdeffc03a8180ba8a1d8d346.png) :P
You're comparing apples and oranges here.
If anyone expects a $500 Lowrider hobbyist CNC to handle all the same materials, loads, feed-rates and cut-depths as a $5k-$35k professional model CNC, that is as insane as expecting a RasPi to run Gauntlet Legends at 100%. :lol
- Is the Lowrider as strong as a commercial CNC? No.
- Is the Lowrider as rigid as a commercial CNC? No.
- Is the Lowrider as fast as a commercial CNC? No.
- Is the Lowrider as expensive as a commercial CNC? Fortunately, no. ;D
There are many examples showing that a properly built Lowrider CNC is capable of accurately cutting MDF/plywood parts at reasonable loads, feed-rates and cut-depths for the Lowrider.
If you doubt the Lowrider's capabilities, here's one of many videos on YouTube showing it milling a part out of 1/4" aluminum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgwU_UjZY
Scott
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 09:44:55 pm
Post by: PL1 on February 21, 2020, 10:41:36 pm
3 hours is reasonable?Not for mass-production, but many people will consider 3 hours for that part more reasonable than shelling out the big bucks for a commercial CNC. ;)
We both know that you can use faster/deeper settings for MDF/plywood than aluminum.
Scott
Post by: Mike A on February 21, 2020, 10:44:25 pm
Post by: PL1 on February 21, 2020, 11:50:49 pm
I hope we can just agree to disagree.As long as Tolerance Boulevard is a two-way street, of course we can. :cheers:
I trust people will usually make the right choice for their situation if they clearly understand the available alternatives.
(There's nothing we can do if they don't do their homework and choose poorly. >:D)
I'm just offering another perspective and relevant facts to support an informed alternative opinion, not demanding my opinion be treated as absolute fact.
Scott
Post by: Gilrock on February 22, 2020, 07:50:37 am
Post by: Mike A on February 22, 2020, 07:59:26 am
Post by: Arroyo on February 22, 2020, 08:07:32 am
The difference is that I know Vigo and Arroyo personally. I actually know their situations.
I think what he means to say is, we’re a bunch of picky bitches.
Post by: Mike A on February 22, 2020, 08:09:25 am
Post by: bperkins01 on February 22, 2020, 08:13:08 am
I kinda see both side of this one - time is my most precious resource too.
However - how I value it can't really be applied in dollars.
The amount of time I've spent research and fixing stuff that I could have outsourced or just replaced makes no sense in dollars. I'm probably paying myself $4/hour on it..
But yard work? We have a 1/2 acre lot and spring cleanup is awful.. dropping $1k to not spend 20 hours doing that work - seems like a good trade to me.
Home CNC for most people is for fun - so I'd put that in the first category. Once it bleeds into producing $$$? then speed would matter.
Now - tool quality?
Don't buy cheap tools... ever.. Buy the best and only cry once.. Early on I bought crappy tools and quickly became better than them.. then had to toss them because they had no value (Craftsman tools). Good tools cost more for a reason..
My $.02
Post by: Mike A on February 22, 2020, 08:29:52 am
Quote
Don't buy cheap tools... ever.. But the best and only cry once..
A CNC router is a tool. Same rules apply.
I built my first CNC machine. The tinkering and problem solving was fun. Waiting for the thing to cut stuff was not. You can't just walk away from a CNC when it is cutting a part for an hour.
Post by: bperkins01 on February 22, 2020, 08:32:30 am
Really? I thought that was a selling point - but I don't have a CNC.QuoteDon't buy cheap tools... ever.. But the best and only cry once..
A CNC router is a tool. Same rules apply.
I built my first CNC machine. The tinkering and problem solving was fun. Waiting for the thing to cut stuff was not. You can't just walk away from a CNC when it is cutting a part for an hour.
I'd probably sand something while I waited - another $4/hour job. :cheers:
Post by: Mike A on February 22, 2020, 08:36:23 am
A cheap CNC machine has its place. Especially if you just can't afford a real machine. My main contention is that you don't need one at all if building arcade machines for yourself is the end goal.
Conventional tools are a much better choice.
Post by: bperkins01 on February 22, 2020, 08:38:43 am
Next thing you know you are producing lots of Wooden items with writing on them, etc. :cheers:
Post by: Mike A on February 22, 2020, 08:41:06 am
Post by: Gilrock on February 22, 2020, 08:41:54 am
Post by: bperkins01 on February 22, 2020, 08:45:04 am
That clock is about to turn 21..
I need to go make some pens..
Post by: javeryh on February 22, 2020, 10:35:01 am
I bought plans for a Grandfather clock - which had spindles - so that I had a reason to buy a laythe.. Just because I wanted one..
That clock is about to turn 21..
I need to go make some pens..
Haha we've all been there at some point...
Post by: jennifer on February 22, 2020, 07:12:39 pm
Post by: Mike A on February 24, 2020, 08:36:54 am
Here are a couple of random CNC pics because no matter what I say, You guys want a CNC machine for cutting arcade cabs.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381484;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381485;image)
Even cutting at over 100 ipm this takes way longer than using my table saw and router. I would never use the CNC for this kind of job again unless I had a
rack and pinion machine that could cut at least 3 times faster than mine.
I left the dust shoe off so you could see everything better. With the dust shoe in place there is 99 percent less sawdust laying around.
Post by: Mike A on February 24, 2020, 08:44:52 am
Here are some of them.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381486;image)
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381490;image)
One advantage to being single. Wiring a CP on my kitchen counter. Leaving it there overnight to work on again in the morning.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381487;image)
I built a shelf in my arcade room this weekend.
My Subwoofer and PA speaker take up the space of one arcade cab. They also melt your face if you are standing in front of them.
The solution was to move them out of the way. I still need to wrap the studs in cedar.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381489;image)
Today I am going to finally remove the old plumbing for my Aquarium. That is the white PVC you see in the pic.
Post by: Gilrock on February 24, 2020, 09:06:25 am
Post by: Gilrock on February 24, 2020, 09:07:58 am
Post by: Mike A on February 24, 2020, 09:10:03 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on February 24, 2020, 09:11:41 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381484;image)
Awesome set up Mike. But please consider a duct for the 120mm(?) fan that comes out of the top of your box. It may extend the life of the electronics. See below bro.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41NtyAEVu5L.jpg)
Post by: Mike A on February 24, 2020, 09:12:34 am
I have a 4x8 sheet of insulation 1 inch thick that i lay down on the floor.
The plywood goes on top of that.
I set my circular saw to cut just through the plywood.
Easy and fast.
Post by: Mike A on February 24, 2020, 09:14:25 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=381484;image)
Awesome set up Mike. But please consider a duct for the 120mm(?) fan that comes out of the top of your box. It may extend the life of the electronics. See below bro.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41NtyAEVu5L.jpg)
I operate my machine with the dust boot in place all of the time. There is normally no dust. I leave it off when I take glamor shots.
And that fan is like 40mm. :P
Post by: jdbailey1206 on February 24, 2020, 09:20:46 am
Post by: bperkins01 on February 24, 2020, 10:02:08 am
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Post by: Arroyo on February 24, 2020, 11:49:30 am
Good call on those speakers, that was killing your floor space. You’ve done some serious rearranging of those machines, nice work!
Post by: Mike A on February 24, 2020, 11:52:32 am
Post by: opt2not on February 24, 2020, 02:43:19 pm
Post by: Mike A on February 24, 2020, 02:54:50 pm
The motor driver software isn't supported anymore.
I need to switch it over to Mach3 at some point.
Post by: bperkins01 on February 24, 2020, 05:04:39 pm
Post by: Mike A on March 03, 2020, 08:17:31 am
Player 3 button 2 stopped working halfway through the night. I will have to check out my wiring when I get a little free time.
Other than that everything worked great. My long time buddy was the last to leave the party and we played Trog for an hour or so.
Post by: Arroyo on March 03, 2020, 10:01:42 am
Post by: javeryh on March 03, 2020, 10:18:05 am
Play testing with kids and adults went pretty well at my party. The first kids to arrive lunged at the cab and threw quarters in. They didn't have to receive any instructions and they were playing right away. They were all elementary school aged.
The dream! This is exactly how it should be - everything self-explanatory, even for kids.
Post by: Mike A on March 03, 2020, 11:32:48 am
Post by: Hoopz on March 03, 2020, 12:49:26 pm
Post by: Mike A on March 03, 2020, 12:55:47 pm
The cold rise definitely makes a difference.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on March 04, 2020, 07:57:56 am
Yeah. The first hour of my party I am stretching dough and cooking pizzas.
BYOAC ≠ Build Your Own Arcade Controls. BYOAC = Build Your Own Appetizing Calzones.
Post by: bimm25e on March 06, 2020, 12:11:52 pm
(https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/332058368368_/Suzo-Dual-and-Triple-Push-Button-Switch-Assembly.jpg)
You can get cheap versions of these on ebay. I use them on my racing cabs where real estate is limited but i need coin/escape buttons.
Post by: bimm25e on March 06, 2020, 12:12:52 pm
There are some VERY GOOD 1p/2p 6 button games and it is nice to have that option.
Post by: Mike A on March 06, 2020, 12:48:04 pm
This can't be real.
Post by: Mike A on March 07, 2020, 05:33:54 pm
Post by: yotsuya on March 07, 2020, 06:01:16 pm
Okay. The p3 b2 problem is not a wiring issue. That button works fine in Wild West Cowboys of Moo Mesa. So I guess it is time to pull my Simpsons PCB and figure out the problem.
Hopefully you can find a schematic. Might just be a diode. My Millipede board had the test switch stuck on, and it just happened to be the diode in circuit. Swapped it out and all was golden.