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Software Support => GroovyMAME => Topic started by: krick on January 07, 2018, 10:07:46 pm

Title: Intel CPUs with integrated Radeon graphics are coming
Post by: krick on January 07, 2018, 10:07:46 pm
So, Intel just announced that they are making CPUs that have integrated Radeon RX graphics...

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3246204/ces/intel-launches-core-chips-with-amd-radeon-graphics.html (https://www.pcworld.com/article/3246204/ces/intel-launches-core-chips-with-amd-radeon-graphics.html)

The drivers will be distributed by Intel but sourced from AMD.  Hopefully that means that there's at least a chance for them to be eventually supported by some iteration of CRT Emudriver in the distant future.

For those of us with arcade cabinets, it would be really convenient to buy (or build) a really tiny PC with an Intel CPU and be able to use the on-board graphics with an arcade cabinet.
Title: Re: Intel CPUs with integrated Radeon graphics are coming
Post by: buttersoft on January 08, 2018, 12:36:56 am
Man i'd love a little NUC that could run GroovyMAME. But how many of these builds are going to come with Analog video out? It's getting rarer and rarer.
Title: Re: Intel CPUs with integrated Radeon graphics are coming
Post by: krick on January 08, 2018, 01:29:03 am
Might not even have analog video either at the rate things are going.
Title: Re: Intel CPUs with integrated Radeon graphics are coming
Post by: Calamity on January 08, 2018, 03:50:32 am
This is a really interesting move from Intel. We'll see where it goes.

As of now, the AMD APU chips look like they have a great potential to be used for low cost emulation boxes and I wonder why they're not more popular. Probably because their single thread performance is not that impressive when compared to the Intel alternatives.

With regards to analog outputs, VGA connectors might be completely abolished by the end of this year. I'm not particularly worried about this because we'll probably manage to go on by using active converters (HDMI->VGA or DP->VGA), which should be virtually lagless.

I'm a bit more concerned about the abolition of BIOS and its total replacement by UEFI. We'll loose the ability to boot in 15 kHz. Not a big deal but just a bit sad because it was cool.
Title: Re: Intel CPUs with integrated Radeon graphics are coming
Post by: buttersoft on January 09, 2018, 06:06:16 pm
No digital-to-analog conversion is going to be lag-free, surely? Even if only one more frame gets added, that's not ideal. It would be interesting to see some tests come up in the input lag thread ;)
Title: Re: Intel CPUs with integrated Radeon graphics are coming
Post by: Calamity on January 10, 2018, 10:33:04 am
No digital-to-analog conversion is going to be lag-free, surely? Even if only one more frame gets added, that's not ideal. It would be interesting to see some tests come up in the input lag thread ;)

As long as it's a dumb converter with no processing applied (scaling) there should be no lag. No buffering is required, just convert the "digits" in the lines to voltages.