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Title: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: thomas_surles on February 14, 2017, 12:35:58 am
I'm looking to build a new cab (probably a tully) with a vertical crt monitor and a four way stick. I know similar questions have been asked but I can't find what I am looking for.

Can anyone think of any games worth playing that use more than 1 button with a vertical monitor and a 4 way stick?
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: ahofle on February 14, 2017, 09:52:41 am
Phoenix
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: thomas_surles on February 14, 2017, 10:29:40 am
Ok that makes one. Any more that I would miss out on if I use one button?
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: Malenko on February 14, 2017, 10:33:46 am
you could always double up and map buttons 2 and 3 to start 1 and 2
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: Thenasty on February 14, 2017, 11:20:45 am
don't forget, since you have a 4-way, it is good also for 2-way games like Satan's Hollow and many more.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on February 14, 2017, 11:37:50 am
Ok that makes one. Any more that I would miss out on if I use one button?

4-way games that use 2 buttons:
Dig Dug II
Satan's Hollow
Son of Phoenix (technically 8-way but works fine)
Super Cobra

Honorable mention:
Punchout looks great on a vertical cab (puts both monitors on the vertical screen).  3 button game.  (Left hook, Right hook, Uppercut).  On my cab I on have 2 buttons so I map uppercut (button 3) to the player 2 button.

Also, are you going to run any horizontal 4-way classics on there?  I did on my vertical cab.  They look pretty decent.
Zookeeper (only uses 1 button but it's a fave of mine).
Elevator Action (jump, fire)

DeL
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: paigeoliver on February 14, 2017, 12:58:36 pm
Ok that makes one. Any more that I would miss out on if I use one button?

4-way games that use 2 buttons:
Dig Dug II
Satan's Hollow
Son of Phoenix (technically 8-way but works fine)
Super Cobra

Honorable mention:
Punchout looks great on a vertical cab (puts both monitors on the vertical screen).  3 button game.  (Left hook, Right hook, Uppercut).  On my cab I on have 2 buttons so I map uppercut (button 3) to the player 2 button.

Also, are you going to run any horizontal 4-way classics on there?  I did on my vertical cab.  They look pretty decent.
Zookeeper (only uses 1 button but it's a fave of mine).
Elevator Action (jump, fire)

DeL

Half the games you just mentioned there as 4-way are 8-way. Zookeeper, Super Cobra, Son of Phoenix are all 8-way.

The answer to the number of buttons question is 2.

Here is my hand made list of all the vertical 4-way/2-way games in mame. It is extremely old, but I doubt anything of substance has been added to this list.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=6716.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=6716.0)

Ali Baba and 40 Thieves
Amidar
Anteater
Armored Car
Astro Blaster
Astro Fighter
Astro Invader
Bagman
Balloon Bomber
Black Hole
Burger Time
Carnival
Cavelon
Checkman
Circus Charlie
Commando(Sega)
Congo Bongo
Cosmic Guerilla
Cosmos1981
Crush Roller
Dazzler
Defend the Terra Attack on the Red UFO (bootleg)
Devil Fish
Dig Dug
Dig Dug II
Disco No.1
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong 3
Donkey Kong Junior
Dream Shopper
Eyes
Faster Harder More Challenging Q*bert (prototype)
Frogger
Galaga
Galaxian
Galaxy Wars
Gals Panic
Guzzler
Heiankyo Alien
Intrepid
Invader's Revenge
Invinco / Head On 2
Joust 2 - Survival of the Fittest
Jr. Pac-Man
Jump Coaster
Jumping Jack
Jungler
Kicker
King & Balloon
Lady Bug
Lasso
Levers
Lock'n'Chase
Loco-Motion
Logger
Lunar Rescue
Mappy
Marvin's Maze
Mikie
Minky Monkey
Monster Bash
Moon Alien Part 2
Moon Quasar
Mr. Do!
Mr. Do's Castle
Mr. F. Lea
Mr. Jong
Mr. TNT
Ms. Pac-Man
Mysterious Stones
Naughty Boy
New Rally-X (Vertical)
Nibbler
Ozma Wars
Pac & Pal
Pac-Man
Pac-Man Plus
Pac-Mania
Pengo
Pickin'
Pisces
Pleiads
Pooyan
Pop Flamer
Pulsar
Q*bert
Q*bert's Qubes
Qix
Return of the Invaders
Roc'n Rope
Route 16
SWAT
Samurai Nihon-ichi
Satan's Hollow
Scrambled Egg
Sindbad Mystery
Solar Fox
Son of Phoenix
Space Invaders
Space Invaders Part II
Space Laser
Space Panic
Springer
Stratovox
Streaking
Super Bagman
Super Pac-Man
Super Space Invaders '91
Tank Battalion
The Electric Yo-Yo
The End
The Glob
Tomahawk 777
Tower of Druaga
Triple Punch
Van Van Car
Warp & Warp
Wiping
Zzyzzyxx
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: thomas_surles on February 14, 2017, 01:15:42 pm
Thanks guys. I think I might go with 2 buttons, now I just need a theme (not a multicade theme) and some wood. I guess I need to find a monitor as well. It's hard to find a crt monitor that isn't super small around here.

Does anyone here use a crt tv as a monitor? If so how well does it look? And does it defeat the purpose of using crt?

I've always stuck with lcd screens and 8 ways so I feel like a noon again trying to go this route.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: paigeoliver on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 pm
Thanks guys. I think I might go with 2 buttons, now I just need a theme (not a multicade theme) and some wood. I guess I need to find a monitor as well. It's hard to find a crt monitor that isn't super small around here.

Does anyone here use a crt tv as a monitor? If so how well does it look? And does it defeat the purpose of using crt?

I've always stuck with lcd screens and 8 ways so I feel like a noon again trying to go this route.

I use real arcade monitors in my real games and VGA crt monitors in my Mame setups. If you ask around to everyone you know the chances are good that you can score an old 21" VGA monitor for free or close to it.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: thomas_surles on February 14, 2017, 01:45:25 pm
Thanks guys. I think I might go with 2 buttons, now I just need a theme (not a multicade theme) and some wood. I guess I need to find a monitor as well. It's hard to find a crt monitor that isn't super small around here.

Does anyone here use a crt tv as a monitor? If so how well does it look? And does it defeat the purpose of using crt?

I've always stuck with lcd screens and 8 ways so I feel like a noon again trying to go this route.

I use real arcade monitors in my real games and VGA crt monitors in my Mame setups. If you ask around to everyone you know the chances are good that you can score an old 21" VGA monitor for free or close to it.
I have seen them at thrift stores in the past for like 5 bucks, but when I go looking for something I can't find what I want.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: markc74 on February 14, 2017, 02:15:16 pm
That's a great list from Paige - I'll be using that as a basis for my next cab.

I think Commando is 8 way tho?
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: paigeoliver on February 14, 2017, 03:32:47 pm
That's a great list from Paige - I'll be using that as a basis for my next cab.

I think Commando is 8 way tho?

Not the one you are thinking of, different game with the same name.

https://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=7377 (https://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=7377)
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: markc74 on February 14, 2017, 05:22:22 pm
That's pretty cool - i had no idea that existed!

Only game i don't see on the list is pacmania. I know a lot of people don't like it but I've always had a lot of love for it.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: velcrobomb on February 14, 2017, 06:15:32 pm
1942
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: PL1 on February 14, 2017, 06:34:04 pm
1942
Nope.  It's 8-way.


Scott
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: paigeoliver on February 15, 2017, 10:23:49 am
Added to the list. Mame probably listed it as 8-way back then and I didn't go up to 1987 in going over everything by hand since the vertical 4-way genre was over by then.

That's pretty cool - i had no idea that existed!

Only game i don't see on the list is pacmania. I know a lot of people don't like it but I've always had a lot of love for it.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: roknrol on February 15, 2017, 05:13:14 pm
Curious as to what 4-way stick you're thinking of using.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: paigeoliver on February 15, 2017, 05:28:40 pm
Curious as to what 4-way stick you're thinking of using.

I always recommend using these, they just seem to work well with pretty much all 4-way games.

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/accessories/50-6084-1125R00

I also like these because you can leave the mounting nut just a little bit loose so you can rotate the base to play QBert.

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/joysticks/50-6048-00

Original Pac-Man sticks are also good, but a little hard to find and should probably be saved for real or reproduction cabinets at this point.

While I love Wico sticks, I don't like the 4-way ones as an overall 4-way stick, I don't like the way they perform in fast maze games.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: thomas_surles on February 15, 2017, 05:49:23 pm
Curious as to what 4-way stick you're thinking of using.

I always recommend using these, they just seem to work well with pretty much all 4-way games.

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/accessories/50-6084-1125R00 (https://na.suzohapp.com/products/accessories/50-6084-1125R00)

I also like these because you can leave the mounting nut just a little bit loose so you can rotate the base to play QBert.

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/joysticks/50-6048-00 (https://na.suzohapp.com/products/joysticks/50-6048-00)

Original Pac-Man sticks are also good, but a little hard to find and should probably be saved for real or reproduction cabinets at this point.

While I love Wico sticks, I don't like the 4-way ones as an overall 4-way stick, I don't like the way they perform in fast maze games.
Haven't decided yet. I like what paigeoliver suggested. I was looking at this as well
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=402 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=402)
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: velcrobomb on February 15, 2017, 06:57:37 pm
I recently purchased the cheaper 4-way leaf switch from ggg just to get my feet wet.  I'm liking it just fine.  I'd imagine the pac-pro would be great too.  I love those leaf switches. 
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: paigeoliver on February 15, 2017, 08:46:46 pm
Pac-Pro is just an upgraded version of the one I normally suggest anyway, so I feel good about blindly recommending it.

Curious as to what 4-way stick you're thinking of using.

I always recommend using these, they just seem to work well with pretty much all 4-way games.

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/accessories/50-6084-1125R00 (https://na.suzohapp.com/products/accessories/50-6084-1125R00)

I also like these because you can leave the mounting nut just a little bit loose so you can rotate the base to play QBert.

https://na.suzohapp.com/products/joysticks/50-6048-00 (https://na.suzohapp.com/products/joysticks/50-6048-00)

Original Pac-Man sticks are also good, but a little hard to find and should probably be saved for real or reproduction cabinets at this point.

While I love Wico sticks, I don't like the 4-way ones as an overall 4-way stick, I don't like the way they perform in fast maze games.
Haven't decided yet. I like what paigeoliver suggested. I was looking at this as well
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=402 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=402)
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on February 15, 2017, 09:06:07 pm
I have had four pac-pros and I highly recommend them.

Just keep in mind the PacPro is designed for metal control panels.

DeL
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: thomas_surles on February 15, 2017, 09:14:10 pm
I have had four pac-pros and I highly recommend them.

Just keep in mind the PacPro is designed for metal control panels.

DeL
Well I plan on using a wooden cp.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: paigeoliver on February 15, 2017, 10:05:51 pm
I have had four pac-pros and I highly recommend them.

Just keep in mind the PacPro is designed for metal control panels.

DeL
Well I plan on using a wooden cp.

Here is my tutorial on how to do that.

https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=237707

You will have to log into klov to see the picture.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: roknrol on February 16, 2017, 01:51:10 pm
Just keep in mind the PacPro is designed for metal control panels.

I was asking because I ran across another thread that was recommending the Pac-Pro over the Leaf-Pro. (Might have even included DL as part of the convo.)

I'm in the same boat - looking for an undermount solution for a 1/2" MDF CP. Was otherwise looking at modding a Sanwa JLW with microleafs or something.
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: yotsuya on February 16, 2017, 05:23:57 pm
Pac-Pro or GTFO
Title: Re: Vertical 4 way games that use more than 1 button
Post by: thomas_surles on February 16, 2017, 11:13:38 pm
Pac-Pro or GTFO
Pac pro it is then.