Post by: ChanceKJ on January 27, 2016, 12:42:54 am
Post by: Slippyblade on January 27, 2016, 12:52:30 am
Post by: 05SRT4 on January 27, 2016, 12:58:39 am
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 27, 2016, 01:10:20 am
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 27, 2016, 07:09:50 am
:applaud:
Post by: n3wt0n on January 27, 2016, 07:50:51 am
Post by: pbj on January 27, 2016, 09:34:28 am
Maybe you'll be the one that actually does something with MP3 sounds but most don't bother after they get the machine home.
Post by: yotsuya on January 27, 2016, 09:53:22 am
Post by: pbj on January 27, 2016, 10:02:49 am
So how long until he goes full pinhead and wants nothing to do with us filthy MAMErs? A year?
Yep, and I give it 12 before he sells the truck and doesn't even bother play testing them before parties. Lucky if they get a rag wiped on the glass. And the "you haven't gotten a new one in years" whines get a little louder at each party.
Post by: vwalbridge on January 27, 2016, 10:59:49 am
Its a Spanish made pin
Welp, should have left the Space Duel in Spanish mode.
Post by: harveybirdman on January 27, 2016, 11:07:54 am
Really excited for this....
Dude.... I think it might be time for a girlfriend.... ;D
Post by: lilshawn on January 27, 2016, 01:04:54 pm
Its a Spanish made pin
Welp, should have left the Space Duel in Spanish mode.
Duelo Espacial!!!
(totalmente no un timo de asteroides)
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on January 27, 2016, 01:11:36 pm
Maybe if they change the name of Zapcon to "Chance-Con" you'll pass up buying something and actually GO!
(just kidding). Good find man, looks sharp!
Post by: Scotty_C on January 27, 2016, 06:43:23 pm
Post by: Token on January 27, 2016, 10:44:59 pm
Nice pickup. :cheers:
Post by: danielm7999 on January 27, 2016, 10:52:10 pm
Post by: Aceldamor on January 27, 2016, 10:52:29 pm
So how long until he goes full pinhead and wants nothing to do with us filthy MAMErs? A year?
lol
Post by: acvieluf on January 28, 2016, 08:32:19 am
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 28, 2016, 12:29:03 pm
Post by: RandyT on January 28, 2016, 01:46:27 pm
Just being honest from experience. :)
Post by: johnrt on January 28, 2016, 01:56:46 pm
Post by: jennifer on January 28, 2016, 02:22:13 pm
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 28, 2016, 03:34:04 pm
the playfield seems overly simplistic as far as pins of that era go.
Sometimes simplistic can be a lot of fun. I play the hell out of The Pinball Arcade's digital version of Big Shot, even though there are a ton of other classic tables to choose from.
(http://www.zpinaddict.com/pballimg/bigshotpf.jpg)
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 28, 2016, 03:44:04 pm
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 28, 2016, 03:53:00 pm
Post by: vwalbridge on January 28, 2016, 04:00:49 pm
I'm genuinely surprised how anyone every gets their first pin. Just too far out of my league to ever jump in.
If anyone has a secret...do tell. :)
Post by: harveybirdman on January 28, 2016, 04:01:58 pm
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 28, 2016, 04:03:54 pm
Post by: johnrt on January 28, 2016, 04:12:31 pm
Maybe I'm naive but the average cost entry point on arcade machines already seems high to me...let alone pinball machines.Yeah... I believe they're millionaires. Hey, that's why they're called pin snobs. :lol
I'm genuinely surprised how anyone every gets their first pin. Just too far out of my league to ever jump in.
If anyone has a secret...do tell. :)
Here's an example from this country:
http://m.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=70284420 (http://m.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=70284420)
28000 NOK, that is 3250 US dollars!
Post by: pbj on January 28, 2016, 04:25:08 pm
Big Shot and Sure Shot are fun EMs. I've had a chance at a couple of those and should have taken it.
I'd really recommend you leave as much of that Chance machine alone as possible, Chance, but do what thou wilt.
Post by: yotsuya on January 28, 2016, 04:36:41 pm
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 28, 2016, 05:01:33 pm
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 28, 2016, 05:05:58 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 28, 2016, 05:06:27 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 28, 2016, 05:07:00 pm
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 28, 2016, 06:12:28 pm
Post by: vwalbridge on January 28, 2016, 06:17:38 pm
Maybe I'm naive but the average cost entry point on arcade machines already seems high to me...let alone pinball machines.
I'm genuinely surprised how anyone every gets their first pin. Just too far out of my league to ever jump in.
If anyone has a secret...do tell. :)
...this only cost me $355 USD. :D
That seems like a pretty good deal to me. I'm have no idea what a good deal would be but a quick Craigslist search in my area and the cheapest one I found was a Gottlieb Mustang (http://denver.craigslist.org/clt/5400859078.html) for $750. Not bad I guess but 90% of the ones I usually see are $2000 and up.
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 28, 2016, 06:24:27 pm
Post by: vwalbridge on January 28, 2016, 06:27:41 pm
Interestingly enough, the guy had it listed for $500USD, but when i sent him the email he recognized me from a previous deal (he's the guy i bought that huge PCB lot from a few weeks back). And because he knew i was coming in from 3 hours away, My name was Chance, and a few other factors he just said take it for $355. I was stoked.
For only a couple bucks he also threw in an original power supply, a working SunsetRiders PCB, and a bunch of nintendo buttons and buttons holders. :D
Yots is right then...it'a all about networking. :)
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 28, 2016, 06:40:16 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 28, 2016, 06:43:35 pm
All I can say is a good thing your name isn't Elvis.
Post by: Peabo on January 29, 2016, 07:37:36 am
Good luck
Post by: pbj on January 29, 2016, 09:48:47 am
Post by: RandyT on January 29, 2016, 11:41:07 am
This (http://www.amazon.com/Testors-Promotional-Enamel-Paint-Set/dp/B00005C2KF) is a godsend for touch-ups. Primary colors are included, so mixing to get the right shade was no problem. Seems to be holding up well too.
But I have bored quite a bit of the machine, after playing it often. Have the bug now for a full-sized VP table. Won't be long before that becomes a project priority :)
Post by: vwalbridge on January 29, 2016, 11:45:35 am
Have the bug now for a full-sized VP table. Won't be long before that becomes a project priority :)
Are you building it yourself? If so please start a build thread here. I've resigned myself to the fact that I will never own a real pinball machine so a VP machine is my only hope. I'd love to watch one get built here.
Post by: yotsuya on January 29, 2016, 11:57:45 am
Search here for Chris' Virtual Pinball machine (Star Wars theme). Best one I've ever seen. Subtle, but nice.Have the bug now for a full-sized VP table. Won't be long before that becomes a project priority :)
Are you building it yourself? If so please start a build thread here. I've resigned myself to the fact that I will never own a real pinball machine so a VP machine is my only hope. I'd love to watch one get built here.
Post by: RandyT on January 29, 2016, 12:01:43 pm
But Vpins don't really need to cost a fortune to make. I've seen some mini-tables which I am sure are just as fun to play as the full-sized ones. This is based on the experiences I had as a kid with the old tabletop pinball games. I probably would have wet myself if I had the option of a Vpin table of the same size in those days :lol
Post by: yotsuya on January 29, 2016, 12:04:36 pm
There are lots of documented builds, probably even a few here. I think I'll leave that to those who like to do, or have already done that kind of thing. I'm a "Git'r done" sort when I get going on something of this nature, and I invariably leave out a lot of important details (i.e. i'm usually three steps past something before I realize that I should have taken an important photoSame here. Once I start tearing into something, the last think about it "Hmmmm, I really should take a photo of all the sawdust that has gathered in the corner" or "Damn, that drying spray paint looks bad ass on all those screw heads." I'd rather just move on to the next step.)
Post by: harveybirdman on January 29, 2016, 12:06:31 pm
, and I invariably leave out a lot of important details (i.e. i'm usually three steps past something before I realize that I should have taken an important photo :lol )
Same here. Once I start tearing into something, the last think about it "Hmmmm, I really should take a photo of all the sawdust that has gathered in the corner" or "Damn, that drying spray paint looks bad ass on all those screw heads." I'd rather just move on to the next step.
It's ok Brofessors, that's why we have people here like Chance...
Post by: yotsuya on January 29, 2016, 12:13:22 pm
Yeah, I commend anyone with the patience to do it. My first couple projects I tried to start with a lot of photos to document things, but it always fizzed out. Now that I know how to do things, I don't see the point., and I invariably leave out a lot of important details (i.e. i'm usually three steps past something before I realize that I should have taken an important photoSame here. Once I start tearing into something, the last think about it "Hmmmm, I really should take a photo of all the sawdust that has gathered in the corner" or "Damn, that drying spray paint looks bad ass on all those screw heads." I'd rather just move on to the next step.
It's ok Brofessors, that's why we have people here like Chance...
Post by: vwalbridge on January 29, 2016, 12:32:13 pm
Yeah, I commend anyone with the patience to do it. My first couple projects I tried to start with a lot of photos to document things, but it always fizzed out. Now that I know how to do things, I don't see the point., and I invariably leave out a lot of important details (i.e. i'm usually three steps past something before I realize that I should have taken an important photoSame here. Once I start tearing into something, the last think about it "Hmmmm, I really should take a photo of all the sawdust that has gathered in the corner" or "Damn, that drying spray paint looks bad ass on all those screw heads." I'd rather just move on to the next step.
It's ok Brofessors, that's why we have people here like Chance...
...but I'd rather see pictures of Brofessors that know how to do things right, not threads of n00bs that don't. (like mine) :-[
Post by: BorgDog on January 29, 2016, 12:34:04 pm
Here's my new toy. I'm really liking it, best of both worlds, em feel, look and sound as it has chimes not electronic beeps, but ss brain for low maintenance. Thinking more gottlieb system 1's may be in my future.
(http://vpforums.org/imghost/69/jokerpoker.jpg)
Post by: yotsuya on January 29, 2016, 12:35:17 pm
I think there are already plenty of great project and documentation threads that have great photos of how to do things, so why add more noise? There's only really one way to spiffy up bolts or put a piece of plexi over an LCD running a 60-1, and it's already been shared.Yeah, I commend anyone with the patience to do it. My first couple projects I tried to start with a lot of photos to document things, but it always fizzed out. Now that I know how to do things, I don't see the point., and I invariably leave out a lot of important details (i.e. i'm usually three steps past something before I realize that I should have taken an important photoSame here. Once I start tearing into something, the last think about it "Hmmmm, I really should take a photo of all the sawdust that has gathered in the corner" or "Damn, that drying spray paint looks bad ass on all those screw heads." I'd rather just move on to the next step.
It's ok Brofessors, that's why we have people here like Chance...
...but I'd rather see pictures of Brofessors that know how to do things right, not threads of n00bs that don't. :(
I like seeing photos of stuff I haven't seen before, really.
Post by: jennifer on January 29, 2016, 01:15:06 pm
Post by: yotsuya on January 29, 2016, 02:13:38 pm
Every project and builder has its own challenges, You may think you have seen it all Yot, But yes maybe not so much.... Pbj in his "don't touch or fix anything" and "do as little as possible" is experience with pins, not him just being cheap, What Chance is talking about could very easily destroy the value of that game. Pins are highly condition critical, and dealing with a relatively small niche market of large collectors.Good points, Jenn. One of the enduring, raging debates on KLOV has to do with restoration and preservation. It raises the question... just because you CAN do something, does it mean you SHOULD?
Post by: wp34 on January 29, 2016, 02:41:11 pm
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 29, 2016, 02:45:48 pm
Build threads are for newbies anyway and are what keep this forum fresh. When I started in this hobby I tended to follow the threads that were new and being updated at that time. I suspect others do/did the same. Those threads may have been rehashing old techniques for all I knew. I'd hate to see people stop posting build threads here for fear of being redundant.Certainly helped me a ton.
Post by: Token on January 29, 2016, 03:03:01 pm
Build threads are for newbies anyway and are what keep this forum fresh. When I started in this hobby I tended to follow the threads that were new and being updated at that time. I suspect others do/did the same. Those threads may have been rehashing old techniques for all I knew. I'd hate to see people stop posting build threads here for fear of being redundant.
This.
I'm sure there are plenty of build threads from 2008 showing how to vectorize artwork or modify the nubby 4-way Zippyy restrictor. But if it ain't stickied at the top of a forum or linked in an active poster's signature, I probably haven't seen it.
New detailed build threads keep the hobby growing (for better or for worse).
Post by: yotsuya on January 29, 2016, 03:20:18 pm
Build threads are for newbies anyway and are what keep this forum fresh. When I started in this hobby I tended to follow the threads that were new and being updated at that time. I suspect others do/did the same. Those threads may have been rehashing old techniques for all I knew. I'd hate to see people stop posting build threads here for fear of being redundant.That's certainly a good point. But that's my rationale for not taking tons of photos - I don't see myself adding anything new.
Post by: pbj on January 29, 2016, 03:43:35 pm
Taking apart functional assemblies on a working EM is an absolute recipe for disaster. That EM repair guide and its "clean and adjust every single switch" advice has killed many machines.
Post by: chopperthedog on January 29, 2016, 06:44:33 pm
just my 2¢
good day.
Post by: ChanceKJ on January 31, 2016, 02:23:00 am
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Post by: pbj on January 31, 2016, 06:29:56 pm
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