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Title: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: BAMBOO on November 06, 2015, 05:08:15 am
I've seen a few NESPi's on the forums.  All are amazing and I love the whole concept and hard work people have done.  But I just wanted to throw this piece of hardware out there for the next NESPi project someone might do.

http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=28 (http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=28)

Instead of tooling out the controller ports and installing or mounting USB ports, the NES RetroPort above will fit perfectly in the original NES controller port space.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: Vigo on November 06, 2015, 06:50:20 am
I do agree with your notion of keeping with original ports, I have original ports on my SNES machine (usb adaptor soldered to leads on original port), but how would you suggest mounting this into the NES? behind the case, those would just be floating midair. Hot glue would come loose after use, and there isn't enough surface area in the front to have an effective epoxy job. With the heavy force needed to push in an pull out the port, something hefty would need to be used to secure it, right?
Title: Re: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: BAMBOO on November 06, 2015, 07:12:13 am
However they have them mounted in the original NES I would say you could use the same mounting tactic?  I really don't know.  I was just suggesting the ports as an eye pleasing option.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: Vigo on November 06, 2015, 10:33:55 am
Oh, I agree with you. Not to mention, anytime you have a usb device and unplug it, you run the risk of the ID order changing when you plug back in. P2 could register to the P1 port, and vice versa. best to just have a usb device permanently plugged in.

But the original ports had a lip in them to naturally hold them into the plastic. Sorry I couldn't find a better pic.

(http://www.retro-video-game-repair.com/images/full/cport2.jpg)

That's why I used the solution of hard wiring the USB adaptor right into the original ports. I didn't need to fumble with remounting new ports in.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=156830;image)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: BAMBOO on November 06, 2015, 01:55:52 pm
I have a model A NES console with a new 72 gold pin connector I purchased from ebay back in 2004.  Still works like it is brand new, so I wouldn't dare pull it apart to look on the inside.  And a NES console on ebay for parts is like 20 bucks, I'm too cheap to buy one.  But I would like to do an NESPi at some point.  There has to be a way to mount the RetroUsb.  I have 4 of them for emulation and they work perfectly, and I thought this would be a spot on time to actually use them.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: brihyn on November 06, 2015, 02:42:37 pm
just throwing this out there....could there maybe be someway to solder wires onto the original in-case connecter, and then to the connectors on this device? you would get rid of the plugging in/unplugging issue, as controllers would still rely on the original connection.
I'm liking the possibility of this if/when I ever get to my own NESPi project.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: Vigo on November 06, 2015, 03:03:21 pm
Well, if I were to attempt, I would most likely try make some sort of mounting frame to support it from the sides. If I were to get fancy, I would cut wood frame, or even go for an all out 3d print of a frame. But because I don't care what the insides of the case look like, I would probably get a stick of that plumbers clay expoxy and wad around the sides of the retrousb to hold it in place.

brihyn's idea sounds better. I would attempt to solder wires to the back of the original in-case connector, and solder terminal pins to the other side of those pins, then use pliers to push those pins into the RetroUSB and make a connection.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the NESPi...
Post by: severdhed on November 07, 2015, 12:17:54 am
Oh, I agree with you. Not to mention, anytime you have a usb device and unplug it, you run the risk of the ID order changing when you plug back in. P2 could register to the P1 port, and vice versa. best to just have a usb device permanently plugged in.

But the original ports had a lip in them to naturally hold them into the plastic. Sorry I couldn't find a better pic.

(http://www.retro-video-game-repair.com/images/full/cport2.jpg)

That's why I used the solution of hard wiring the USB adaptor right into the original ports. I didn't need to fumble with remounting new ports in.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=156830;image)

i agree,  i did the same thing on my snes pi project.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1UXUc-0VzvA/VeJ7zDnSMCI/AAAAAAAAS3s/LEoJyqJ3Njs/s1280-Ic42/20150829_232432.jpg)

is is a pretty easy soldering job and keeps the original ports functional.