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Title: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: 1500points on September 17, 2015, 12:08:01 pm
Hello and thanks in advance.

I am curious about the 1975 game Shark Jaws which was a TTL game with no processor.
Google would suggest an emulator called DICE is the option for playing it.

Anyone have any experience with this, or a suggestion on how to try this out from PC?
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: SavannahLion on September 17, 2015, 04:30:00 pm
Did you download DICE yet?

I don't see Jaws on the list of supported games ???
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: yotsuya on September 17, 2015, 05:58:28 pm
Did you download DICE yet?

I don't see Jaws on the list of supported games ???

It's not.
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: PL1 on September 17, 2015, 06:53:38 pm
This (http://adamulation.blogspot.com/) DICE page says that sharkjaws was added in v 0.7. (Current version on Sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dice/) is 0.9.)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nqc6vJItnR8/Um1fJUznsjI/AAAAAAAAACg/V9XIyfObDBc/s320/sharkjaws.png)

The ROMname is sharkjaw.zip -- it is a conversion using "Tank" hardware per Arcade-history.com (http://www.arcade-history.com/?n=shark-jaws&page=detail&id=3395).

Quote from: arcade-history.com
DESCRIPTION
[Coin-Op] Arcade Video Game
Shark JAWS © 1975 Atari.

The game is exceptionally simple. It is just a little man on a screen, the only other graphics are a shark and a fish (oh, and the score). You simply try and catch the fish, without getting eaten by the shark. Then the score counter increments by one, and the fish respawns somewhere else. The graphics are black and white monochrome, and the game is controlled by a single joystick (no buttons).
TECHNICAL
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TRIVIA
Released in September 1975.

Shark JAWS is the first game featuring animated characters, it's a conversion using the "Tank" hardware. The manufacturer is 'Horror Games', created by Atari to avoid any possible legal hassles from the producers of the obvious inspiration for the game : Universal Studios' smash-hit movie 'Jaws'.

The PCB to this game is very simple, no processor, no RAM, only off the shelf electronic components, and three rom chips that hold the images of the fish, shark, and man respectively. The game has a single dip switch, which selects one play per credit, or 2 plays per credit (default is two). The only other option is a knob that controls the length of the game. Most really old games played on time limits, not lives, and this was no exception.


Scott
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: SavannahLion on September 17, 2015, 07:51:22 pm
Oh... Shark  Jaws... somehow that fell off my brain during my search.

Was there ever actually a good game created around Jaws? I seem to remember every version or ripoff basically sucking.
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: yotsuya on September 17, 2015, 08:09:59 pm
Good find, Scott. Last time I messed with DICE, it only had Pong, Rebound, and Gotcha.
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: PL1 on September 17, 2015, 09:02:40 pm
Good find, Scott. Last time I messed with DICE, it only had Pong, Rebound, and Gotcha.
Thanks.  :cheers:

There are a few more games supported now:
Quote from: DICE game_list.h
    GAME( "Pong",               pong,            "Atari",              1972 ),
    GAME( "Pong Doubles",       pongdoubles,     "Atari",              1973 ),
    GAME( "Rebound",            rebound,         "Atari",              1974 ),
    GAME( "Gotcha",             gotcha,          "Atari",              1973 ),
    GAME( "Space Race",         spacerace,       "Atari",              1973 ),
    GAME( "Stunt Cycle",        stuntcycle,      "Atari",              1976 ),
    GAME( "TV Basketball",      tvbasketball,    "Midway",             1974 ),
    GAME( "Breakout",           breakout,        "Atari",              1976 ),
    GAME( "Anti-Aircraft",      antiaircraft,    "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Attack",             attack,          "Exidy",              1977 ),
    GAME( "Shark Jaws",         sharkjaws,       "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Quadrapong",         quadrapong,      "Atari",              1974 ),
    GAME( "Jet Fighter",        jetfighter,      "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Crash 'N Score",     crashnscore,     "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Crossfire",          crossfire,       "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Pin Pong",           pinpong,         "Atari",              1974 ),
    GAME( "Clean Sweep",        cleansweep,      "Ramtek",             1974 ),
    GAME( "Wipe Out",           wipeout,         "Ramtek",             1974 ),
    GAME( "Hi-Way",             hiway,           "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Steeplechase",       steeplechase,    "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Indy 4",             indy4,           "Atari",              1976 )

Wait . . . Shark Jaws is supported, but the hardware it runs on (Tank) isn't?   :dizzy:

The Tank ROM has been dumped so maybe it's on the DICE "to-do" list.   :dunno

Based on a quick search, there are about 40 of these TTL (Transistor–transistor logic) games that might be candidates for emulation in DICE.


Scott
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: yotsuya on September 17, 2015, 09:04:07 pm
Good find, Scott. Last time I messed with DICE, it only had Pong, Rebound, and Gotcha.
Thanks.  :cheers:

There are a few more games supported now:
Quote from: DICE game_list.h
    GAME( "Pong",               pong,            "Atari",              1972 ),
    GAME( "Pong Doubles",       pongdoubles,     "Atari",              1973 ),
    GAME( "Rebound",            rebound,         "Atari",              1974 ),
    GAME( "Gotcha",             gotcha,          "Atari",              1973 ),
    GAME( "Space Race",         spacerace,       "Atari",              1973 ),
    GAME( "Stunt Cycle",        stuntcycle,      "Atari",              1976 ),
    GAME( "TV Basketball",      tvbasketball,    "Midway",             1974 ),
    GAME( "Breakout",           breakout,        "Atari",              1976 ),
    GAME( "Anti-Aircraft",      antiaircraft,    "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Attack",             attack,          "Exidy",              1977 ),
    GAME( "Shark Jaws",         sharkjaws,       "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Quadrapong",         quadrapong,      "Atari",              1974 ),
    GAME( "Jet Fighter",        jetfighter,      "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Crash 'N Score",     crashnscore,     "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Crossfire",          crossfire,       "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Pin Pong",           pinpong,         "Atari",              1974 ),
    GAME( "Clean Sweep",        cleansweep,      "Ramtek",             1974 ),
    GAME( "Wipe Out",           wipeout,         "Ramtek",             1974 ),
    GAME( "Hi-Way",             hiway,           "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Steeplechase",       steeplechase,    "Atari",              1975 ),
    GAME( "Indy 4",             indy4,           "Atari",              1976 )

Wait . . . Shark Jaws is supported, but the hardware it runs on (Tank) isn't?   :dizzy:

The Tank ROM has been dumped so maybe it's on the DICE "to-do" list.   :dunno

Based on a quick search, there are about 40 of these TTL (Transistor–transistor logic) games that might be candidates for emulation in DICE.


Scott
Wow. I rolled my own version of DICE so that you could play two player Pong using MAME default controls. Looks like it's evolved since then.
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: PL1 on September 17, 2015, 11:43:50 pm
Downloaded DICE from Sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dice/) and tried all the games.

Seems pretty easy to set up, but may need some tweaking on the paddle controls. (responded to the keyboard trackball, but not to the TT2 spinner)   :dunno

  The following games ae built into the emulator: (no ROM file needed)
breakout
crossfire
gotcha
hiway
pinpong
pong
pongdoubles
quadrapong
rebound
spacerace
tvbasketball

  The following games need ROM files: (re-name the ROM .zip file as needed)
antiaircraft
attack
cleansweep
crashnscore
indy4
jetfighter
sharkjaws
steeplechase
stuntcycle
wipeout


Scott
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: vaderag on January 27, 2016, 02:39:54 pm
Anyone managed to find the rom files for these?

They don't come with the package and all i can find is forum posts with people asking the same as me...
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: leapinlew on January 27, 2016, 03:04:05 pm
Anyone managed to find the rom files for these?

They don't come with the package and all i can find is forum posts with people asking the same as me...

Oh crap.
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: vaderag on January 27, 2016, 03:08:53 pm
Anyone managed to find the rom files for these?

They don't come with the package and all i can find is forum posts with people asking the same as me...

Oh crap.

Oh crap what?
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: PL1 on January 27, 2016, 03:09:36 pm
Anyone managed to find the rom files for these?
Good news:  They are in some of the usual places where you find MAME ROMs.

There aren't too many files so it isn't difficult to find them one at a time.

Bad news:  Rule 5 (http://arcadecontrols.com/arcade_message_rules.html) won't let us give you a hint where to look for them.   :police:


Scott
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: vaderag on January 27, 2016, 03:14:09 pm
Anyone managed to find the rom files for these?
Good news:  They are in some of the usual places where you find MAME ROMs.

There aren't too many files so it isn't difficult to find them one at a time.

Bad news:  Rule 5 (http://arcadecontrols.com/arcade_message_rules.html) won't let us give you a hint where to look for them.   :police:


Scott

Sorry, figured being that a) all the actual games are part of the emulator and linked above, and b) these aren't Roms in your traditional sense (all they hold ascii images for each character) that there wouldn't be any issue...
You can actually play these games without them, but you just get blocks in place of the shark for example
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: PL1 on January 27, 2016, 03:29:49 pm
Sorry, figured being that a) all the actual games are part of the emulator and linked above, and b) these aren't Roms in your traditional sense (all they hold ascii images for each character) that there wouldn't be any issue...
You can actually play these games without them, but you just get blocks in place of the shark for example
Q:  Where would people tell you to look?

A:  ROMsites/URLs which can't be posted due to Rule 5.


Scott
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: vaderag on January 27, 2016, 03:32:28 pm
Fair point...
Title: Re: 1975 Shark Jaws on DICE?
Post by: acvieluf on January 28, 2016, 08:27:34 am
Oh... Shark  Jaws... somehow that fell off my brain during my search.

Was there ever actually a good game created around Jaws? I seem to remember every version or ripoff basically sucking.

I LOVE shark attack!  (rom name: sharkatt) It's really simple and rudimentary, HOWEVER: YOU are the shark hunting the divers, and it has hilarious late 70s graphics blood.

but what really makes the game is the way the audio was done (make SURE you download the sound samples!).  In the cabinet, there was an actual car tape-deck, with people talking, and saying "shark hunting" things.  When you get one, they scream bloody murder.

HILARIOUS game. : )

EDIT - I should give credit to the No Quarter podcast for this one, it's where i discovered it. Episode 76. Good stuff.