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Title: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 17, 2015, 02:30:51 pm
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15144043/site%20posts/byoac/span.jpg)

 ;D

(Sorry - don't normally do that, but after much research and sourcing, just couldn't help it!)
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: CanadianRyGuy on July 17, 2015, 02:48:53 pm
What's a stretched LCD?
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: dkersten on July 17, 2015, 02:50:38 pm
nice!  Can I ask what width and how much you paid?
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 17, 2015, 02:55:29 pm
@ CanadianGuy: It's a marquee shaped monitor:

(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/006/179/109/109179006_464.jpg)

@ dkersten: You may, but I'd have to quote it in Googlies as in any other currency would be poor form. Lets just say I had to save my pocket money for it... :)
 
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: Malenko on July 17, 2015, 03:08:40 pm
jelly.   When websites dont list prices you know shits expensive!
http://www.litemax.com/PD_Products_Detail_51_141_1432_US_utf-8.html#.ValSk_lWqlE (http://www.litemax.com/PD_Products_Detail_51_141_1432_US_utf-8.html#.ValSk_lWqlE)
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 17, 2015, 03:16:16 pm
Well, trying to focus on the value rather than the cost! I'm itching to get it all hooked up, but I didn't manage to get the software written for it before arrival, so desperately trying to get that finished before her virgin flight. Wonder if I'll last it out...
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: CanadianRyGuy on July 17, 2015, 03:53:55 pm
Oh wow, that's cool!

Can only imagine what something like that would cost lol
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 17, 2015, 04:06:05 pm
Well... it's been 2 years in the making so far. If I calculate it as a daily cost, it aint too bad!

And you only build one in a lifetime, right??

RIGHT?????  :o
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: wp34 on July 17, 2015, 05:11:29 pm
Well... it's been 2 years in the making so far. If I calculate it as a daily cost, it aint too bad!


Word to that!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: n3wt0n on July 17, 2015, 05:28:46 pm
Nice! Can't wait to see how you put it to use.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: ark_ader on July 17, 2015, 09:52:31 pm
Does it blend?
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: Slippyblade on July 18, 2015, 02:08:32 am
Does it blend?

What a silly question.  Of COURSE it blends!
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: ChanceKJ on July 19, 2015, 10:37:35 pm
Does it blend?

What a silly question.  Of COURSE it blends!

How do you know? If i don't see Tom Dickson in a lab coat trying to shove one into a Blendtec Stealth 875 then it doesn't count.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 20, 2015, 01:28:46 pm
Predictably, I didn't hold out. It didn't blend, but it did rock. Not disappointed. Like everything else on my bloody cab now, all I gotta do is finish the software to make the most use of the hardware. Does a build ever finish!?
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: ChanceKJ on July 20, 2015, 02:21:11 pm
Predictably, I didn't hold out. It didn't blend, but it did rock. Not disappointed. Like everything else on my bloody cab now, all I gotta do is finish the software to make the most use of the hardware. Does a build ever finish!?

Yes, i think. If you use Arcade PCB's or really any way of avoiding dealing with software. Other then getting busy or lazy theres really no reason a build should be "never ending"
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: Malenko on July 20, 2015, 02:43:08 pm

Yes, i think. If you use Arcade PCB's or really any way of avoiding dealing with software. Other then getting busy or lazy theres really no reason a build should be "never ending"

I think hes referring more towards "feature creep" more than "endless configuration"
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 02:52:31 pm

Yes, i think. If you use Arcade PCB's or really any way of avoiding dealing with software. Other then getting busy or lazy theres really no reason a build should be "never ending"

I think hes referring more towards "feature creep" more than "endless configuration"
Yep. I've seen feature creep sink many projects, arcade or not.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: ChanceKJ on July 20, 2015, 02:54:55 pm
mmmm yes, something i'm also personally guilty of. Yots' you've put me in my place at least once on it too ;)
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 02:58:20 pm
I remember when Rick was working on his Super Turbo Turkey Puncher cabinet. That got out of hand real fast. The idea men were in full force. Not surprisingly, it never got done.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: Malenko on July 20, 2015, 03:51:16 pm
I remember when Rick was working on his Super Turbo Turkey Puncher cabinet. That got out of hand real fast. The idea men were in full force. Not surprisingly, it never got done.

cause it was Rick?

BURN!
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 03:56:26 pm
See below.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 03:57:07 pm
I remember when Rick was working on his Super Turbo Turkey Puncher cabinet. That got out of hand real fast. The idea men were in full force. Not surprisingly, it never got done.

cause it was Rick?

BURN!
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/ac44bff646f1971da32c77192407d53e/tumblr_inline_mrar1aofj91qz4rgp.gif)
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 03:58:30 pm
See above.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 03:59:05 pm
FFS, eject!!!
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: BadMouth on July 20, 2015, 04:06:45 pm
Finished cabs lack potential.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 20, 2015, 04:16:22 pm
Love it when posts/referencing goes all OP-to-the-third-person (kinda "does he take sugar?") + esoteric.

What's future creep? Wondering if it's like an avid PC gamer forever updating his rig in a circular pattern (MOBO>GPU>CPU>RAM>MOBO>GPU>etc etc) and never actually getting round to playing any games...oh...wait..hang on...doh. Semi-guilty.

It certainly aint due to lazyness! Looking forward to getting busy doing nothing at some stage... :)
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 05:02:12 pm
Feature creep is when you start adding things to a project that weren't in the original vision because someone or something comes along that make is seems like it's a good idea. Sometimes it is, but many times it adds to development time, cost, and introduces other issues. Lots of times, the "idea men" throw out suggestions without thinking of the logistics or implementation.  I've seen it with software developers, especially.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: Malenko on July 20, 2015, 05:04:36 pm
What's future creep?

FEATURE creep.


"Its done but I should add a track ball"

"Hmm I have a track ball I should add a spinner now too!"

"Ok have a spinner, now I need to add a second monitor for marquees"

"Well I have a second monitor for marquees, but what I really need a rotating monitor"

"monitor rotates! Now to make it do it automatically and not manually"

"I have a vertical monitor when I need it, mine as well add pinball games!"

"Now I need...................."

ad naseum
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 05:07:19 pm
What's future creep?

FEATURE creep.


"Its done but I should add a track ball"

"Hmm I have a track ball I should add a spinner now too!"

"Ok have a spinner, now I need to add a second monitor for marquees"

"Well I have a second monitor for marquees, but what I really need a rotating monitor"

"monitor rotates! Now to make it do it automatically and not manually"

"I have a vertical monitor when I need it, mine as well add pinball games!"

"Now I need...................."

ad naseum
Well said. I think at one point, people were suggesting Rick add a smoke machine to his....
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: drventure on July 20, 2015, 05:14:18 pm
Smoke machine?

I gotta add one of those......
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 05:16:08 pm
Smoke machine?

I gotta add one of those......
You're lucky I like you....
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: dmckean on July 20, 2015, 05:17:56 pm
A smoke machine would really compliment my strobed marquee.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 20, 2015, 05:24:40 pm
Ah. Then yeah. Guilty. Oh dear. Imma bad BYOAC'er :(

Well, kinda. Think everything on mine was pretty much there from the start. Admittedly, I did add the second monitor for controls once I had cut the bezel and noticed a big hookin space - £30 for a small display - using a GPU already in there seemed like too good to pass up. Everything else is as per original conception. Oh - apart from a cab-cam added a little later. It's the software side that's really eaten up the time - having to learn to code (ish!) to get the stuff doing what I'm envisioning it doing (e.g. controls for console games etc).

Guilty with the dynamic marquee, but having spent so much time and effort on it, felt a shame not to implement a final idea.

I don't mind ideas men as long as it's based somewhere in reality and experience - possibly keeps things creative and collaborative. However, jumping up and down enthusiastically to suggestions probably isn't the best policy.

 :blah: :blah: :blah:

I'm gonna shut up and get on building the futher m.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 20, 2015, 05:28:16 pm



I don't mind ideas men as long as it's based somewhere in reality and experience - possibly keeps things creative and collaborative. However, jumping up and down enthusiastically to suggestions probably isn't the best policy.

Not that ideas and suggestions are bad, mind you, but the problem with feature creep is that it puts you into a never-ending cycle. Which gets up back to your original comment. :cheers:
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 20, 2015, 05:59:30 pm
Yes indeedy. It is also terribly bad for blending the gray matter - as clearly I cannot read anymore - "featurecreep" - I see.....

I have set an endpoint - I'm saying no to LED buttons, no to voice activation and no the a triple speed blend function. I shall heed the advice of the old and weary around me. :)

(Mind you... a couple of solenoids near my Pin buttons really would be nice....)
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: Jakobud on July 21, 2015, 12:19:48 pm
How much was it and what size is it?
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 21, 2015, 12:29:12 pm
I've seen some LG ones locally that are pretty cheap that would be good for a digital marquee. Having said that, I have no interest in picking one up, but it would work if you were inclined to use one.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: harveybirdman on July 21, 2015, 12:58:26 pm
These would be so much cooler if there were high resolution scans of ALL the marquees.

Until then I say Meh, with the caveat that it can be pretty cool (see Blip)
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 21, 2015, 03:55:09 pm
Agreed. From cursory investigations- it appears there's Mame marquees scattered all over the interweb - some hi-rez, others not. It'd be great if there was a centralized repository of all these (especially if someone SVG'd them all). Have downloaded some of them and they do look awesome - really makes the artwork pop. This LCD seems particularly bright - think it's "daylight readable" or something.

It's 23.5" + 16:4.5 aspect.

Think the LGs are 21:9, i think.

Was really lucky - they're phasing out production of this size. My cab between-side-panels width is 24" (610mm) - designed like this to accommodate series of 2" based control panels. The width of this display was....609.8! Was bit worried about paint depth - but when tested - fits like a glove with no scrape.

One of the attractions to it was also to develop something to auto-generate marquees for console/non-mame games too. Getting there, slowly....
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 21, 2015, 06:28:06 pm
These are the ones at Fry's I saw...

LG 25" IPS Ultrawide LED Monitor (http://www.frys.com/product/8437168?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG)

If you designed your cab around it, it could be seamless. That was the nice thing about Blip!.

And the nice thing about the marquees being digital is that you can size them to fix. :cheers:
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: stigzler on July 21, 2015, 07:54:35 pm
That's certainly a nice price + nice resolution. Yerp - if you were designing your cab around it - that would be a boss acquisition. At 29:9 - it's a little off common marquee dimensions, but there'd be ways round that - concealing part of it somehow. Bit lower on brightness at 250, but steams ahead on contrast ration at 5M:1 (!?!)

If I ever do another - that's a winner.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: dkersten on July 22, 2015, 08:14:45 pm
That was the nice thing about Blip!.
Blip used a scanpixel too though, not a 21:9 off the shelf model.  I don't think he shared the purchase price of the monitor either.  Only prices I have seen online were out of Taiwan but came to around $850.  Still tempting...  But then I wouldn't do that unless I was doing a 55" for the main display turned sideways and using full sized virtual bezels too.  Doesn't everyone have $4k to blow on a single mame cab?
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 22, 2015, 08:18:10 pm
That was the nice thing about Blip!.
Blip used a scanpixel too though, not a 21:9 off the shelf model.  I don't think he shared the purchase price of the monitor either.  Only prices I have seen online were out of Taiwan but came to around $850.  Still tempting...  But then I wouldn't do that unless I was doing a 55" for the main display turned sideways and using full sized virtual bezels too.  Doesn't everyone have $4k to blow on a single mame cab?
I meant the nice thing about Blip was that he integrated it well, not the type of screen is used.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: dkersten on July 22, 2015, 08:53:25 pm
Yes, it was integrated VERY well.  Even if you planned to use a 21:9 I can't see it looking well integrated.  Just because it is fairly wide, it is still too tall to fit the stereotypical arcade cab aesthetically.  Scanpixel seems to be the only company you can find online who sells screens that fit the aesthetics.
Title: Re: Look what arrived today...
Post by: yotsuya on July 22, 2015, 09:06:43 pm
Yes, it was integrated VERY well.  Even if you planned to use a 21:9 I can't see it looking well integrated.  Just because it is fairly wide, it is still too tall to fit the stereotypical arcade cab aesthetically.  Scanpixel seems to be the only company you can find online who sells screens that fit the aesthetics.
I think it can on a scratch build, if planned around it. But since it's a gimmick I have no interest in attempting,  we'll leave it at that.