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Main => Monitor/Video Forum => Topic started by: Harakiri on January 01, 2004, 05:47:26 pm

Title: Sorta "newbie" question!
Post by: Harakiri on January 01, 2004, 05:47:26 pm
Hello people and happy new year as a start!  ;D


Well, i'm very close of getting a fully working jamma (Horizontal Screen) in great conditions for 250 euros = 250 bucks!
Well, i've been researching about these "standard res. monitors" and became confused because they "only can display" 15hz games in fullscreen mode. Well, i e-mailed Andy for Ultimarc to confirm and also to see if i could get a solution for the games that run in higher frequencies but he told me that the only way to play other games is with the "HW stretch" mame option wich turns the game's graphics into a pile of graphical junk...


Well, if you have that kinda monitors running in your mame cab, please post some info/solutions/convertions/links here!


As i allways say, thks anyway...  :)


See ya!
Title: Re:Sorta "newbie" question!
Post by: Dak-ak on January 01, 2004, 09:34:21 pm
I'm not sure that the problem is....

If you don't use an arcade monitor, you'll prety much have to use a TV or a computer monitor.  Although no monitor can reproduce EVERY game perfectly, guess which one out of the three can do the most, the most accuretly.

what games can you not play at 15Khz?  My monitor can reproduce vertical and horizontal games, classics and new games, windows/linux desktops, windows games (linux games like tux racer, i assume, but havn't tried yet), even vertex games without difficulty.  The trick is to get enough native resolutions so that you can get games fullscreen without stretching them.

If you have an arcade monitor, I would recommend Ultimarc's ArcadeVGA card... easy to set up, pretty fool-proof and nice looking.
Title: Re:Sorta "newbie" question!
Post by: Cave on January 02, 2004, 01:30:13 pm
The games that require a medium res monitor are games like paperboy and 720, these need HWstretch on a standard res monitor but they still look better on an arcade monitor than a tv or pc monitor.
Title: Re:Sorta "newbie" question!
Post by: b3atmania on January 02, 2004, 06:28:32 pm
Any games released in the 90's used medium resolution monitors. Some examples of hardware using 25kHz monitors are Sega System 24, Sega Model 1/2/3, Konami DJ-Main, Konami Hornet, Taito H-System, Atari System 2, Midway Quicksilver II, Midway Vegas and Midway Zeus II. That is a lot of games you cannot display authentic on a standard resolution monitor! As PC processor performance increases the chance of playing these boards in MAME will be become a reality in the coming years. Indeed, some of them are already in MAME.

Something to consider when you are paying 250 euros for just a standard res. monitor
Title: Re:Sorta "newbie" question!
Post by: Harakiri on January 03, 2004, 12:06:50 am
Thanks people, that's a really good info for what comes further to me!


Well, i'll try to rescue a vertical cabinet that's abandoned (in mint conditions) inside of a "Fireman products" store! Weird ain't it?

How much should i pay the man for it? I'm thinking in 200 euros=bucks for it because i don't know the cab conditions inside! The monitor is a vertical one, probably a standart res. one...

I'm gonna belive that the games with "HW strecht" in a arcade monitor "still" look better than in a PC mon.

Thanks for your attencion!  :D
Title: Re:Sorta "newbie" question!
Post by: PedroSilva on January 07, 2004, 08:23:13 am
Well, i'm very close of getting a fully working jamma (Horizontal Screen) in great conditions for 250 euros = 250 bucks!

Sorry but 250 Euros = 320 bucks nowdays ...  ;D
Title: Re:Sorta "newbie" question!
Post by: Minwah on January 07, 2004, 08:32:31 am
I'm gonna belive that the games with "HW strecht" in a arcade monitor "still" look better than in a PC mon.

They do :)  The 'blurring' of hwstretch is not as noticable on an arcade monitor as on a PC monitor, even tho arcade monitors are more blurry than PC monitors.  I don't usually find hwstretching too noticable with the AVGA+arcade monitor.

I've never actually looked into how many medium res games there are in MAME - my resolution program could show that pretty easily tho...