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Title: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on May 22, 2015, 09:46:42 am

Hi

 

I decided that my next project will be a virtual pinball.  This is something I wanted to do long ago. But I had no space in the room, until now.

 anyway i want to order some part, and i see this one http://nanotechent.com/mot-ionkit.php (http://nanotechent.com/mot-ionkit.php)

 my question  is there simple way to connect Plunger With micro switch?


Thanks for the help

so far...

(http://i.imgur.com/xz5z970.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ERfgOks.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oFjpPhQ.jpg)

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Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: PL1 on May 22, 2015, 07:33:06 pm

Quote from: jackiabu on May 22, 2015, 09:46:42 am

anyway i want to order some part, and i see this one http://nanotechent.com/mot-ionkit.php (http://nanotechent.com/mot-ionkit.php)

Check http://www.vpforums.org/ (http://www.vpforums.org/) for more information on the pros/cons of the Nanotech kit vs. the newer VirtuaPin™ Digital Plunger Kit v2 (http://virtuapin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=105&zenid=97502ef89e6ac19bb82b8e4977a31262) -- users have reported issues with both options.  :dunno

The upside to these kits is the analog nudge feature.

Quote from: jackiabu on May 22, 2015, 09:46:42 am

my question  is there simple way to connect Plunger With micro switch?

Many builds have used a microswitch with a plunger, but the microswitch can take a pretty bad beating, depending on how it is mounted.

IIRC one build used a fender washer mounted on the tip of the plunger using a cotter pin through the plunger shaft.

When the plunger was pulled back, the washer would press the lever arm of the microswitch.

There were also blocks that kept the washer from pulling back so far that the switch is damaged.


Scott

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on May 23, 2015, 02:50:36 am

from first look both of this prodcate look a lot of head case to operate ??? it's not because the price. i don't understand why the don't build a simple kit? like this guy did

http://arturosarcadelab.blogspot.co.il/2011_06_01_archive.html (http://arturosarcadelab.blogspot.co.il/2011_06_01_archive.html)


Anyway Thanks scott for your help ;D i will check it out.

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: Speed Racer on May 24, 2015, 10:40:12 pm

Quote from: PL1 on May 22, 2015, 07:33:06 pm

Many builds have used a microswitch with a plunger, but the microswitch can take a pretty bad beating, depending on how it is mounted.

This. I think the micro switch would get hammered pretty bad if the plunger makes direct contact with it. You could rig it so that the plunger engages a switch when it is pulled back like in this old thread http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,7361.msg53235.html#msg53235 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,7361.msg53235.html#msg53235)

Something to bear in mind with these setups that use a microswitch is that although they have a "real" plunger, they effectively reduce it to a "button". You could just get one of those large "launch ball" pinball buttons that were found on later pinball machines http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1685 (http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1685)

On my pinball build I have gone with the V2 from virtuapin, but can't really comment on how good it is yet. I suspect it is better than the nano tech because it auto calibrates everytime the PC is turned on. I think I read than the old version regularly went out of calibration and was a pain to fix.

The advantage of these expensive plungers is that they adjust the power of the shot based on the position of the drawn back plunger (distance). The microswitch option adjusts the power based on how long (time) you pull it back for. They should be more "authentic" (and I use that term pretty loosely), but whether it is worth the extra $$$ is up to you  ;D

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jaharr01 on May 25, 2015, 12:18:55 am

Microswitch- may as well have a launch ball button.

Nanotech plunger- I have one on my pincab, the analog nudge is crap, everything else works great.Initial calibration is a bit querky. Only the nudge loses calibration. Unless it's a big cab, i wouldn't use analog nudge. I would put buttons in front of the flippers for nudge, but it's your cab. If you use analog nudge you better make sure everything is mounted solid, or you will be chasing down wiring problems. i thought about trying one of these on mine http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-Mercury-Tilt-Switch/dp/B0002ZPBKM (http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-Mercury-Tilt-Switch/dp/B0002ZPBKM)

Mouse plunger thread http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=14861 (http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=14861)

A DIY nudge device I made but never hooked it up http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,143794.msg1493345.html#msg1493345 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,143794.msg1493345.html#msg1493345)

Another tidbit is I spent a ton of time setting up my nanotech plunger for each table. Some are easy, some are hard,and some the plunger won't work.

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: Martijn on May 25, 2015, 03:59:31 am

I have the VirtuaPin™ Digital Plunger Kit v2 and been using it for about a year now. Its working great, plunger and nudging is working like it should.

And i have all the buttons also wired to this kit , so you dont need something like a ipac

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on May 25, 2015, 01:02:47 pm

thanks you guys for your advice :) 

i think i will order the Digital Plunger Kit v2 . i only need to know or see how all its pluged in? some pics please?  i send a mail to virtuapin...but no response :-\

can someone recommend me a good site for all this stuff to my pinball cab? i need allso Chrome Legs...in ths same site i see this bundle  http://virtuapin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=9 (http://virtuapin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=9)
it's extremely high price...

Anyway today i continue to work on the cab...

(http://i.imgur.com/Oy9Kyv2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: Peabo on May 26, 2015, 07:02:40 am

http://www.pinballlife.com/ (http://www.pinballlife.com/) is a good source for parts.  I have a standard cab virtual pin using Zeb's controller/plunger http://www.zebsboards.com (http://www.zebsboards.com).  I also have a mini pin that's in the works, I'm just using a mini Ipac on it, no plunger.  If your going to use a plunger, keep in mind that it's about 10" long and will have to slide under the monitor.

Here's my mini pin that's in the works:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7647/16285421483_e57cb2fc70_z.jpg)

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on May 26, 2015, 11:26:03 am

Quote from: Peabo on May 26, 2015, 07:02:40 am

http://www.pinballlife.com/ (http://www.pinballlife.com/) is a good source for parts.  I have a standard cab virtual pin using Zeb's controller/plunger http://www.zebsboards.com (http://www.zebsboards.com).  I also have a mini pin that's in the works, I'm just using a mini Ipac on it, no plunger.  If your going to use a plunger, keep in mind that it's about 10" long and will have to slide under the monitor.

Here's my mini pin that's in the works:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7647/16285421483_e57cb2fc70_z.jpg)

Nice cab you build there :cheers: and thanks for the links

i have some question to you...can you show me pic how you connect your The Digital Plunger Kit v2 with all the wire, pcb, to your cab?

allso i have some difficulty to put my LEd tv on my cab :banghead:  can you show me how you put your  led/plasma on your cab?

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: Peabo on May 26, 2015, 01:29:47 pm

Thanks!

On my Fullsized cab, I routed the sides and just set the LCD on rails attached to the sides.  The I cut strips that fit the gap in sides above the LCD and attach them through the side rails using binding posts.  The glass channel still fits in place like originally.  The plunger was moved down so that it passes under the LCD on this cab.

The mini cab is just a simple tray that the monitor sits on:

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8792/16895886669_ecb3846537_z.jpg)

Here's a picture where you can see the plunger and the controller for it.  This shot is the Nanotech plunger kit bottom center. I'll have to snap a new photo with Zebs board installed.  These just use a USB cable to the PC.  Each button/flipper connect to a port on the board.  The LEDWiz controls my LEDs and Contactors

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5556/14733650573_8a3679c2d6_z.jpg)

Photos of both pinball cabs and my bartop on my flickr page here:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/dclracing08/sets/72157645521699503 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dclracing08/sets/72157645521699503)

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on May 26, 2015, 02:48:09 pm

Peabo thanks for your pics... i will see how can i put my led Tv on my cab.

one more thing about the plunger is it plug n play? or need some setup?

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: johnrt on May 26, 2015, 04:43:59 pm

How did you cut your panels? They look like they're laser-cut or something. Very nice work!  :applaud:

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: Peabo on May 26, 2015, 07:55:40 pm

Quote from: jackiabu on May 26, 2015, 02:48:09 pm

Peabo thanks for your pics... i will see how can i put my led Tv on my cab.

one more thing about the plunger is it plug n play? or need some setup?

The plunger (Zeb's) is plug and play.  You calibrate it once like any other gamepad/joystick and that's it.

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on June 02, 2015, 02:35:44 pm

Update: 


(http://i.imgur.com/R0Dix3q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AQ8eq3u.jpg)

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Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: SpaceHedgehog on June 02, 2015, 04:34:04 pm

Very shiny :) Enjoying watching this come together  :cheers:

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on June 03, 2015, 09:40:11 am

Quote from: SpaceHedgehog on June 02, 2015, 04:34:04 pm

Very shiny :) Enjoying watching this come together  :cheers:

thanks men ;D

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: danielmarokoi on June 03, 2015, 09:50:26 am

Clean and sharp  ;D keep it up  :applaud:

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on June 05, 2015, 12:38:50 pm

Update:

(http://[url=http://i.imgur.com/kuGmEbd.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/kuGmEbd.jpg[/url])
(http://i.imgur.com/wFUCpNH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ujx0qW9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8friQiJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EK5j6kh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/D3Lx21t.jpg)

now waiting for the packaging from virtuapin :P

All ready order a glass  5mm.

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: danielmarokoi on June 06, 2015, 05:05:55 am

nice men :P

I think the thin of the glass should be 6mm ???

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on June 11, 2015, 02:39:45 pm

Update:


(http://i.imgur.com/EcSo9Le.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3TmjFiW.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VlX8yba.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/L4t3W4d.jpg)


meanwhile there is a big delay to my second package from virtuapin  http://virtuapin.net/ (http://virtuapin.net/)  :angry: :angry: :angry:  only because they out of stock "Launch Ball buttons " :timebomb:

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on July 27, 2015, 10:44:15 am

Well after a big delay of a month. the second package has arrived... they split my package. :badmood:

anyway continue the job

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Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on July 27, 2015, 11:01:03 am

(http://i.imgur.com/EhW2STE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4CAJSUW.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0e7rKix.jpg)

I order a glass for the backbox  and  Playfield.

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on July 28, 2015, 12:47:14 pm

I can see the light...continue work ;D

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Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: brihyn on July 28, 2015, 10:58:50 pm

I might have missed it, but what are you using to make it so nice and shiny?

And can you give details of how you fashioned the lockdown? doesn't look metallic....I'm trying to come up with ideas.

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on July 29, 2015, 03:09:18 am

Quote from: brihyn on July 28, 2015, 10:58:50 pm

I might have missed it, but what are you using to make it so nice and shiny?

And can you give details of how you fashioned the lockdown? doesn't look metallic....I'm trying to come up with ideas.

i am using black formica ;D  by the way with all my projects .

The lockdown its all so from wood...but my plane is to cover it with metal aluminum.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ap1jzLP.jpg)

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: danielmarokoi on July 30, 2015, 05:12:11 pm

I hear that this plunger kit have a lot issue problem  pinball :-\  is it the same situation here?

Nice job you doing :applaud:

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on August 04, 2015, 04:21:58 pm

Quote from: danielmarokoi on July 30, 2015, 05:12:11 pm

I hear that this plunger kit have a lot issue problem  pinball :-\  is it the same situation here?

Nice job you doing :applaud:

Thanks


Yes there are some problem ???

its not work like Ipac, it's "emulate joystick" kind of...so  you can't play pinball fx  for instance :dizzy:  anyway i have a lot work on Hyperspin And future pinball.

so i will get it later...

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on August 05, 2015, 11:01:09 am

Well the big day has arrived ;D i finally get the pinball from my carpenter.

(http://i.imgur.com/pX4Tv8Q.jpg)

so in need space in my arcade room...

(http://i.imgur.com/JdI5z5c.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1gY6zjk.jpg)

this my computer: P6TD Deluxe.  I7 ,16gb Ram, 1gig ati graphics card.

(http://i.imgur.com/3qAaS8T.jpg)

connecting the plunger kit

(http://i.imgur.com/Lg3gUsC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uYoGniM.jpg)

The boy can't wait :D

(http://i.imgur.com/fIytiSC.jpg)

Start...

(http://i.imgur.com/M64gY2j.jpg)

some tweaking on FP

(http://i.imgur.com/qKCUrcd.jpg)

Magical ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/ZNMqUSt.jpg)

Vid:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuDPBbQ-Vi0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuDPBbQ-Vi0&feature=youtu.be)

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on August 05, 2015, 11:56:50 am

Nice job so far!  Subscribed!

D

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on August 06, 2015, 02:35:50 am

Quote from: DeLuSioNal29 on August 05, 2015, 11:56:50 am

Nice job so far!  Subscribed!

D

Thanks man ;)

Title: Re: Virtual pinball
Post by: jackiabu on August 06, 2015, 12:15:49 pm

Update:

Add some  button

(http://i.imgur.com/dP0dCPo.jpg)

need to think how do i add this frame ???

(http://i.imgur.com/ARhy4E9.jpg)

meanwhile i'm getting hard time in SETUP the right res in FP....there is some lag in future pinball.

so i decided to replace a new nvidia graphics card 4GB ram...and uninstall the ATI 1gb card/

(http://i.imgur.com/uMuTa2D.jpg)

The new one

(http://i.imgur.com/hupd0Kt.jpg)