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Title: APU with HLSL?
Post by: hybridz on March 09, 2015, 11:27:33 am
Just wondering if anyone is using any of the newer AMD APU's with HLSL?  I am specifically looking at the AMD A10-7850K Kaveri apu.  Or would I be better off just going with an i3/i5 + a middle of the road geforce card?  Dreamcast games are about the newest games I am looking to emulate, but mainly the older classics with HLSL turned on.

Thanks!
Title: Re: APU with HLSL?
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 09, 2015, 10:57:56 pm
I have an A10 5800k in my main system.
I normally run linux but keep a win7 partition.
Is there a certain shader & rom you want me to look at?

I've run Timothy Lots CRT shader on a 3ghz Celeron D with a radeon HD4650 using mame .157 & GLSL with classic games.
Title: Re: APU with HLSL?
Post by: hybridz on March 10, 2015, 10:22:29 am
I was planning on running mame .159 in windows with Timothy Lots shader % GLSL with the appropriate games.  I don't have a specific rom in mind to test, but anything that might be pushing it a bit would be great, thanks!
Title: Re: APU with HLSL?
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 10, 2015, 12:28:46 pm
I was planning on running mame .159 in windows with Timothy Lots shader % GLSL with the appropriate games.  I don't have a specific rom in mind to test, but anything that might be pushing it a bit would be great, thanks!

My setup will not run Gauntlet legends if that helps.

I can try Mortal Kombat 4 with timothy's shader.
Otherwise I don't really know which games would push a PC that are non-3d since I've been mostly playing the classics.

Title: Re: APU with HLSL?
Post by: hybridz on March 10, 2015, 03:24:28 pm
That would be great if you could test MK4... is Gauntlet Legends close to running? or not even in the ballpark?  ...I am thinking it might be worth the extra 100$ to go with an i5 and use my old gtx 570 that is laying around.
Title: Re: APU with HLSL?
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on March 10, 2015, 09:19:37 pm
That would be great if you could test MK4... is Gauntlet Legends close to running? or not even in the ballpark?  ...I am thinking it might be worth the extra 100$ to go with an i5 and use my old gtx 570 that is laying around.
Both still run like crap on my AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 8-Core 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ (watercooled and overclocked to 4.3GHz, 16GB of ram and a solid state hard drive).

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Title: Re: APU with HLSL?
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 11, 2015, 12:17:16 pm
That would be great if you could test MK4... is Gauntlet Legends close to running? or not even in the ballpark?  ...I am thinking it might be worth the extra 100$ to go with an i5 and use my old gtx 570 that is laying around.
Both still run like crap on my AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 8-Core 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ (watercooled and overclocked to 4.3GHz, 16GB of ram and a solid state hard drive).

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In that case it appears i don't need to test anything. :)
your system is faster than mine.

The only setup i've seen run gauntlet legends run great in person is a 3rd gen i5 3570 on an HP 6300 desktop.
I played a good 15 mins. on each begining location and saw very little slow down.
Even with a lot of monsters on the screen.
this was on a live linux usb with open source drivers and mame .149.

I'm sure other systems will run it but this was the first one i found to run it and the price for this setup still isn't cheap enough to make the purchase just for one or two games.
not when I can use the dreamcast emulator to play it.
Title: Try an older version of MAME?
Post by: lamprey on March 11, 2015, 11:03:39 pm
Just a note, if you want to play some of those games, like gauntlet legends/dark legacy, and you are CPU limited, you might want to try an older build of mame. I posted something on this a while back that the older versions (.0145-9 or so) seem to run those about 20-30% faster on the systems I tested than the latest builds.

Currently, Intel seems to have the better CPUs for MAME. I don't really think that overclocking the latest generation is all that great, so I can't say I'd bother spending the extra money for an overclockable version. But, if you have the money and are willing to spend it for one, then you should be able to get a few more cycles out of one to help with the more demanding games.
Title: Re: Try an older version of MAME?
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 12, 2015, 10:59:51 am
Just a note, if you want to play some of those games, like gauntlet legends/dark legacy, and you are CPU limited, you might want to try an older build of mame. I posted something on this a while back that the older versions (.0145-9 or so) seem to run those about 20-30% faster on the systems I tested than the latest builds.

Currently, Intel seems to have the better CPUs for MAME. I don't really think that overclocking the latest generation is all that great, so I can't say I'd bother spending the extra money for an overclockable version. But, if you have the money and are willing to spend it for one, then you should be able to get a few more cycles out of one to help with the more demanding games.

I attempted Gauntlet legends on advanced mame .106 and it actually ran worse than .149 so there may be something to that.