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Title: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 14, 2015, 09:15:21 am
R Pi 2, B+.

Clickey here (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-16530?utm_source=Criteo&utm_medium=Retargeting&utm_term=83-16530&utm_campaign=criteo+retargeting&CA_6C15C=530004080000382806)

Now what am I gonna do with it?
Anyone got any info on how to set this thing up. I know I need a card, but would liek to get it ready to go when the package gets here.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: shponglefan on February 14, 2015, 09:19:30 am
When I bought my Raspberry Pi (1st version) I also ordered an SD card with the Raspbian OS pre-installed.  Can you do something similar for the Pi 2?

edited to add: Looks like you can! (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-16536).  Only 10 bucks, too.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Sjaak on February 14, 2015, 09:22:47 am
Just put RetroPie on a card

http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/ (http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 14, 2015, 09:37:52 am
All you need to know is here:
http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup (http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup)

I would start with NOOBS, if your not just going to use it for gaming.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ (http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/)


Also see below for one of many easy ways to install the OS other then NOOBS with out command line.  I use a Mac but there are Windows and Linux programs that do the same.
http://www.tweaking4all.com/hardware/raspberry-pi/macosx-apple-pi-baker/ (http://www.tweaking4all.com/hardware/raspberry-pi/macosx-apple-pi-baker/)


Piplay is an OS for retro gaming for the PI, and yes there are others (see above) this is just one I kind of like that you could try. The good news is it's easy to try lots of OS's.
http://pimame.org (http://pimame.org)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Wired203 on February 14, 2015, 11:49:23 am
I have used pimame and it's a solid product that is always getting worked on.  PiPlay has all the emulators for pi working out of the box I highly recommend it.

http://blog.sheasilverman.com/pimame-raspberry-pi-os-download/ (http://blog.sheasilverman.com/pimame-raspberry-pi-os-download/)

Now here's what I do with my pi,  I use it for several different functions at different times.  Just buy another sd card for 5 bucks and you can have all sorts of different things ready to boot and try until you find your personal favorite.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 14, 2015, 07:08:55 pm
Mine arrived 2 days ago. I ordered it from adafruit. I was literally refreshing the browser when I bought it last week and watching the inventory drop quickly.

I plan on making a final burn alpha "console" using the Retropie image.

Just buy a compatible card locally. Refer to this: http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards (http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 14, 2015, 08:14:33 pm
Thanks guys.
I find this very interesting.
Need to pick up a card and get a head start on the programming.
About the piplay: Is there a frontend with it? Something like mala?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 14, 2015, 08:18:38 pm
PiPlay is the front end. Personally,  I prefer Emulation Station.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 14, 2015, 08:29:30 pm
PiPlay is the front end. Personally,  I prefer Emulation Station.

That looks very good. Wonder if it will work with the new Pi 2?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 14, 2015, 08:30:44 pm
I'm sure it will eventually.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: RoyalScam on February 14, 2015, 10:36:29 pm
I saw the release of the Pi2 late, so I didn't get in on it.  I've wanted a Pi for awhile now and while searching for what people were doing with the new version, I came across this;

http://youtu.be/zrEj1aQRbpw (http://youtu.be/zrEj1aQRbpw)

Although I'm not the biggest fan of some of Ben Heck's hacks, I thought I could pull something like this off.  I purchased a Pi a and two 2.8" displays from Adafruit plus a few other bits and pieces.  While waiting for my shipment I see this;

https://learn.adafruit.com/pigrrl-raspberry-pi-gameboy/overview (https://learn.adafruit.com/pigrrl-raspberry-pi-gameboy/overview)

So I guess I'll be ordering some more parts soon.

Tonight I printed this and did a quick test run of the parts I've bought.

Regards,
Scam

Edit: So I just ordered my Pi2 from MCM, Thanks for the link DaOld Man!


Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 14, 2015, 10:52:49 pm
I was a PiPlay kickstarter backer. Below is Shea's email to donors about compatibility.

Quote
Hey All!
Last week the Raspberry Pi Foundation released the newest Raspberry Pi board, the Pi2.
Upgrades include:
 a Quad Core ARMv7 processor running at 900mhz.
1GB RAM
Backwards compatibility with the original Pi (ARMv6)
I received mine on Saturday, and have been testing PiPlay on it.  It's so fast.  The bad news is that one or two of the emulators are acting weird.  I'm looking into it, and I hope to have it fixed soon.
Mark, myself, and the rest of the contributors have been working hard on the next release of the software as well.  Included is a better web frontend, more themes, more optimizations, and now the ability to favorite your games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBubgnwDqdY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBubgnwDqdY)
Enjoy!
Thanks for backing!
-Shea
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 15, 2015, 01:29:18 am
PiPlay is the front end. Personally,  I prefer Emulation Station.

That looks very good. Wonder if it will work with the new Pi 2?

Test image for retropie (includes emulation station) on raspberry pi 2. I haven't tried it yet. Waiting for a few more pi related goodies in mail.

http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/raspberry-pi-2-compatibility/page/2/#post-86548 (http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/raspberry-pi-2-compatibility/page/2/#post-86548)

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 15, 2015, 02:12:47 am

Although I'm not the biggest fan of some of Ben Heck's hacks, I thought I could pull something like this off.  I purchased a Pi a and two 2.8" displays from Adafruit plus a few other bits and pieces.  While waiting for my shipment I see this;


Ben Heck used the slower and more efferent model A+. Adafruit used the one of the old Model B's so the 3D printed case won't fit.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: RoyalScam on February 15, 2015, 06:04:44 am
Ben Heck used the slower and more efferent model A+. Adafruit used the one of the old Model B's so the 3D printed case won't fit.

Yeah, I understood that.  I ordered and received my Pi model A before seeing the PiGRRL 3d printed case.  The Pi2 I ordered won't fit in this case either.  The files on Thingiverse also contain the 123D files so that the case can be edited. I just printed the case to see how sturdy it was and how the screen would fit.  All in all I'm pretty impressed with how it turned out.  When I receive my new parts, I'll start thinking seriously about redesigning the case as I'm not too crazy about how the jacks stick out beyond the case sides.  It will make for a slightly larger case, but I think it'll look better.  BTW I printed this on my Printrbot Simple metal and it just fit along the X axis.  I may be thinking about an upgrade to the printer as well.

Regards,
Scam
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 15, 2015, 07:24:16 am
I ordered and received my Pi model A before seeing the PiGRRL 3d printed case.  The Pi2 I ordered won't fit in this case either.

The Pi 2 may fit with minimum adjustment as it looks like they used a model B v2 on the game girl.

The A+ is more efficient but has 25% (256) of the ram as the model B+ you ordered (1GB) I would do some testing to see if you can live with the lower ram with the games you want.   


BTW, did you order an old model A from some reseller that had them in stock or did you mean an A+?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 15, 2015, 08:20:12 am
Royalscam: You made that Gameboy case on a 3d printer? very impressive!
How about a video of the printer in action?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 15, 2015, 09:24:35 am
I'm curious if the emulation capability will surpass that of an original xbox.

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 15, 2015, 09:35:09 am
I'm curious if the emulation capability will surpass that of an original xbox.

Can an original xbox play any PS1 games? the old Pi model B kind of sorptive could if you over clocked it. The thing with the Pi platform is the community keeps finding new ways to squeeze more performance out of it.     
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 15, 2015, 10:24:34 am
Xbox has emulated ps1 just fine for -years-
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: RoyalScam on February 15, 2015, 10:26:16 am
Locke141: I have a Model A+ 256 MB Raspberry PI.  So far I've only tried Nes Emulation on Super Mario Bros. 3.  It seems to work ok, I have yet to try any MAME Roms yet.  I've managed to break the USB Port on the thing so I ordered a port along with a few more goodies from Adafruit. This is going to be a fun project.

DaOld Man: No one is more impressed than myself.  I just assembled the thing, a Printrbot Simple Metal.  I think I made a good choice in a 3D printer.  My design skills aren't too great, but I am learning.  The prints I've done, including the GameBoy replica can be found on Thingiverse.  I just download them and tell the printer to spit 'em out.  The only print I designed myself was a knob for my drill press, there's a pic of it on these forums somewhere.  The prints for the GameBoy took somewhere between six to eight hours, I didn't sit and watch.  It's kinda like that Ron Popeil oven just set and forget.  Perhaps I'll make a video, but it'll have to be something small and pertaining to our BYOAC interests.  If you have any ideas, let me know.

Regards,
Scam

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 15, 2015, 10:47:38 am
You don't have to make a video. I just go crazy over watching those 3d printers and cnc s  run.
Can I ask you how much one of those printers cost?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: RoyalScam on February 15, 2015, 11:25:15 am
I got my printer here;

http://printrbot.com/shop/simple-metal-kit/ (http://printrbot.com/shop/simple-metal-kit/)

It says from $539.  As I recall it was 625 to my door with full roll of PLA.

I think if I were to do it all over again, I'd buy this for the speed and larger build volume.

http://deltaprintr.com/product-category/3d-printers/ (http://deltaprintr.com/product-category/3d-printers/)

Regards,
Scam
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 15, 2015, 01:17:47 pm
Xbox has emulated ps1 just fine for -years-

Good to know.

I had XBMC running on an old XBOX years ago. In fact it was my first MAME experience. Is that still an XBOX running on turtle box pick on the UCA thread? The one with D&D Sky's over Mystara?  I'v been thinking about doing an XBOX build this summer.  Is CoinOPS the way to go these days?

Edit: The B+ looks faster on paper.

XBOX
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_(console) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_(console))

Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi)

Seeing how Nvidia has a reputations for not being very open with there hard ware and how the Broadcom VideoCore IV is probably the most open video core there is. I think the R-pi community will be able to get the most out of it.

That said I still want to try CoinOPS. It looks like the got a lot out of the old girl.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: ark_ader on February 15, 2015, 05:07:56 pm
Mine is attached to the back of my monitor and has seen practically no use what so ever.

Linux is practically dead now, since we have android (yeah I know) as the winboxes are as small as a seven inch tablet.

BTW did I tell you about my HP Stream 7 and how........... :blah:    :lol
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 15, 2015, 05:11:32 pm
Thanks for the link, DaOldMan. I picked one up to futz with as well. I'll use my B+ for something else.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 15, 2015, 05:49:08 pm
Linux is practically dead now, since we have android (yeah I know)

Android uses the linux kernel.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Slippyblade on February 15, 2015, 06:36:45 pm
Time to toss my hat into the Pi ring.  Just picked up a B model for $20.  I'm a bit confused though, I kept hearing how poor the performance in the GUI was.  I've used it all day, browsing the net, playing movies, music, even did some spreadsheet stuff and I'm pretty impressed with it so far.  Way better performance than I was expecting.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 15, 2015, 06:43:45 pm
Yes, turtle box is running an xbox.

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: jennifer on February 15, 2015, 09:25:49 pm
    Im all amused at the "Finally broke down" thing, like it was some painful internal struggle you were going through... It looks really cool though, apparently that's the missing link to my failed experiment with Mame.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Generic Eric on February 15, 2015, 09:43:46 pm
I'm excited to hear some feedback from some who has used both.

It would be nice to see a comparison to coinops too.  God knows it'll be more quite than an xbox.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 15, 2015, 09:47:17 pm
Xbox has many advantages but there are many, many new games that are cabinet friendly that I would like to add to the rotation.  A shame that newer consoles have never been so throughly hacked.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 15, 2015, 11:09:15 pm
Xbox has many advantages but there are many, many new games that are cabinet friendly that I would like to add to the rotation.  A shame that newer consoles have never been so throughly hacked.

You could always get a cheep PC off Arrow.

Linux is practically dead now, since we have android (yeah I know)

Android uses the linux kernel.

Thats right, Android is just as "linux" as Ubuntu. If you add up all linux distributions it's the number one operating system in the world. I don't care for Android my self. IOS always seem to be faster on similar hardware. My limited understanding is because Android runs every thing in a Java like machine that aid in compatibility. IOS and the chips it runs on are super customized to run fast with each other. Also out side of there custom linux Kernel (many distros custom the Kernel) that Google has to release under the GPL, Android is not very open at all that would be the one thing I would be interested in.


Xbox has many advantages but there are many, many new games that are cabinet friendly that I would like to add to the rotation.  A shame that newer consoles have never been so throughly hacked.

Thats because Raspbian uses super light/fast LXDE as a GUI. Linux is modular so it easy'ish to change the GUI if you like it you should try lubunu (Ubuntu with LXDE) on that laptop your using to try linux, it should make a speed difference. The Raspbian make it less pretty by default (its geared for kids) but lubunu looks better by default. 
http://lubuntu.net (http://lubuntu.net)     
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 16, 2015, 01:13:40 am
Thanks guys.
I find this very interesting.
Need to pick up a card and get a head start on the programming.
About the piplay: Is there a frontend with it? Something like mala?

Mine should be in this week.

Wah!cade should run on the new one.
I installed it on my rpi b no problems but it ran too slow to be of any use.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: tony.silveira on February 16, 2015, 02:41:12 am
I would love to see a report of future pinball running under wine on a pi 2.  I'm thinking of picking one up to make a small stand alone pinball machine.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: ark_ader on February 16, 2015, 05:30:05 am
Linux is practically dead now, since we have android (yeah I know)

Android uses the linux kernel.

Thus the "yeah I know".  ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- do I have spell everything to you guys, or are we that stupid?   :laugh2:
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 16, 2015, 06:17:27 am
Thus the "yeah I know".  ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- do I have spell everything to you guys, or are we that stupid?   :laugh2:

I though thats what you meant but in context it would have negated the point you were trying to make. So ya.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: RoyalScam on February 16, 2015, 12:25:37 pm
Just so you know, ya can't plug in the USB Keyboard connector upside down or this happens. ( It was late, I was tired ).

I have two on order.

Regards,
Scam
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 16, 2015, 12:43:34 pm
Linux is practically dead now, since we have android (yeah I know)

Android uses the linux kernel.

Thus the "yeah I know".  ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- do I have spell everything to you guys, or are we that stupid?   :laugh2:

I speak English, not wierd sarcasm. You should have been more clear. :dunno
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 16, 2015, 12:44:16 pm
Just so you know, ya can't plug in the USB Keyboard connector upside down or this happens. ( It was late, I was tired ).

I have two on order.

Regards,
Scam

You can probably fix that. Do you have a soldering iron?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 16, 2015, 12:44:53 pm
Anyone try recalbox?

http://www.recalbox.com (http://www.recalbox.com)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: RoyalScam on February 16, 2015, 01:18:36 pm
You can probably fix that. Do you have a soldering iron?

Yup, I thought the solderwick and empty vias were a clue.  Sorry, I just had to give a snarky answer.  Like I said I have two ports on order.

Regards,
Scam
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 16, 2015, 01:22:21 pm
Anyone try recalbox?

http://www.recalbox.com (http://www.recalbox.com)

Hm.. that looks interesting.  I didn't see any loading screens in the video.

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: lordnacho on February 17, 2015, 11:03:06 am
Still waiting on my v2 to come.  I never got past tinkering with front ends on the old version.  Pretty much always ran into a snag with whatever project I had.  Hoping I have better luck with this one.

Also signed up for this.  I'll believe it when I see it, but Windows 10 on a Raspberry Pi would be pretty sweet.  Who knows maybe could get Hyperspin(with bells/whistles turned off?) or some other front end running on it.
https://www.windowsondevices.com/signup.aspx (https://www.windowsondevices.com/signup.aspx)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 17, 2015, 11:05:36 am
I'd be willing to bet cold hard cash that Hyperspin will never run on a Pi2. Other FEs, however...

I signed up for that already. Be interested to see what comes out of it.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: lordnacho on February 17, 2015, 11:13:07 am
Run at all or run without pulling out your hair?  To be honest, I never tried turning off all effects in Hyperspin.  And I guess at that point, what is the point vs another FE
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 17, 2015, 11:16:44 am
Run at all or run without pulling out your hair?  To be honest, I never tried turning off all effects in Hyperspin.  And I guess at that point, what is the point vs another FE

Probably at all, since it's so Flash-based. Anything less than a Core2Duo and Hyperspin = GTFO. And even at that, you need to turn stuff off.

I'd be happy with something simple and configurable.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: lordnacho on February 17, 2015, 11:41:27 am

Probably at all, since it's so Flash-based. Anything less than a Core2Duo and Hyperspin = GTFO. And even at that, you need to turn stuff off.

I'd be happy with something simple and configurable.
Think I had Hyperspin on a core2duo at one point, don't remember having to turn anything off. 
But I see your point.   Having spent so much time configuring that, would be nice to reuse.


emulation station was decent, may just try that again on v2.  It did lock up trying to download the game info for too many games.  I think I tried NES but never got it all set up.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 17, 2015, 11:42:21 am
I hear they're redoing the FE in PiPlay, which is great, because it currently looks like ass.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 17, 2015, 12:59:00 pm
The version of windows 10 for the RPI will be the tablet version.
I have no idea at all how different that would be from the PC version & if you can just re-compile apps for ARM and you are on your way.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 21, 2015, 12:29:09 pm
Update:
Got the pi 2 in yesterday, hooked it up and tested it. Hooked it to my 55" HDMI TV. Need to order the AV cable so I can hook it to a regular monitor.
Installed Raspbian Pi (NOOBS) on an 8 gig Toshiba micro SD card and was good to go.
Second pic is a little blurred.

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: lordnacho on February 21, 2015, 01:04:52 pm
Nice.  Let us know what you do with it.
Mine is coming in today(hopefully).  Will probably try Plex on it first then emulation station again.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 21, 2015, 02:31:48 pm
Nice.  Let us know what you do with it.
Mine is coming in today(hopefully).  Will probably try Plex on it first then emulation station again.

OK, Ive got to get an a/v cable and maybe the hdmi to vga converter for it, so I can use a regular monitor. Its not easy using it as a computer on my big screen TV, and I don't have a smaller tv with hdmi on it.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Wired203 on February 21, 2015, 11:30:51 pm
hdmi to vga requires a converter from digital to analog and they usually run about 30 bucks,  now if you have a dvi monitor a hdmi to dvi stays digital and you can get them on ebay for about 5-7 bucks.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Grasshopper on February 22, 2015, 07:36:37 am
hdmi to vga requires a converter from digital to analog and they usually run about 30 bucks.

They're much cheaper than that on Ebay.

I'd be interested to know whether you can use an HDMI to VGA converter, and still create custom screen resolutions and refresh rates. If you can, then this latest iteration of the Pi might finally be a viable alternative to a PC for a cabinet.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 22, 2015, 01:50:18 pm
Grasshopper,

Gert van Loo  (one of the guys who designed the PI) makes a GPIO to VGA kit.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/gert-vga-adapter/ (http://www.raspberrypi.org/gert-vga-adapter/)

Don't know about Replacing PC's but I would think at this point the pi make all the Chines 60 in 1 boards pretty unattractive.

Yotsuya,

This is a like to a bata versions with better front ends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBubgnwDqdY#t=251 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBubgnwDqdY#t=251)

People who made there own custom front ends for Pipaly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlFXobO5gXA#t=74 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlFXobO5gXA#t=74)

http://pimame.org/forum/discussion/596/front-end-multi-platforme/p1 (http://pimame.org/forum/discussion/596/front-end-multi-platforme/p1)



I ordered a R-pi 2 to my mothering laws but it did not make it before she left to visit us. Hope you guys post lost of cool projects before I get my hands on one this summer. And Does any one have the NEGEO emulator running on the new PI? If so how is it and did you use a universal bios?

 
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 22, 2015, 02:18:36 pm
I am going to try running final burn alpha. Haven't loaded anything to microsd yet. Here's where I'm at with the console project. Awaiting a few parts in the mail before purchasing an enclosure.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 22, 2015, 03:30:05 pm
I am going to try running final burn alpha. Haven't loaded anything to microsd yet. Here's where I'm at with the console project. Awaiting a few parts in the mail before purchasing an enclosure.

How about GNGeo for NEOGEO? I know final burn alpha plays neogeo as well but it would be good to know how they compare.

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 24, 2015, 10:56:49 am
Got my Pi2 yesterday, installed the latest build of Emulation Station/Retropie on it. WOW. It's snappy.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 24, 2015, 03:01:49 pm
Do you see any loading screens full of text?

Can it handle Stepmania?

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 24, 2015, 03:11:07 pm
Still testing it, but yeah, you do see Linux loading screens,  especially after quiting.

I don't have Stepmania, but it can run Quake III Arena, so I would think so.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: JDFan on February 24, 2015, 03:14:06 pm
hdmi to vga requires a converter from digital to analog and they usually run about 30 bucks,  now if you have a dvi monitor a hdmi to dvi stays digital and you can get them on ebay for about 5-7 bucks.

IF you don't mind waiting for a few weeks for it to arrive you can get them on EBAY from China for about $7 -- I just received one of these the other week for the GameStick I had bought on clearance and it works fine for connecting the GameStick to my Acer Monitor and also has the audio output for a cheap set of Logitech speakers. ( I originally got a $5 HDMI to DVI convertor but that lacked the audio and the gamestick didn't have separate audio outputs and doesn't support the $1 USB Soundcard from China either ! ) -  Linkie to the one I purchased - ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/221588431594?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=520447402104&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221588431594?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=520447402104&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) )

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAxMFgxMDEw/z/5rUAAOSwEppUT1OF/$_57.JPG)

Note : THe one I got is Female HDMI since it was for the Gamestick -- For the Pi I believe you'd need Male HDMI but they have those also for $5 ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Male-to-VGA-Converter-Adapter-With-Audio-USB-Cable-1080P-for-PC-Lucky-/371246740114?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item567007b292 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Male-to-VGA-Converter-Adapter-With-Audio-USB-Cable-1080P-for-PC-Lucky-/371246740114?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item567007b292) )

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/oroAAOSw0e9Uykze/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 24, 2015, 03:16:47 pm
Still testing it, but yeah, you do see Linux loading screens,  especially after quiting.

I don't have Stepmania, but it can run Quake III Arena, so I would think so.

Hm... I'm going to also need you to test the proper shutdown operation when hooked up to a HDTV USB port as the power source.  I've currently got a dedicated flat screen running stepmania with a laptop and it'd be swell to eliminate the laptop...


Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 24, 2015, 03:17:38 pm
Still testing it, but yeah, you do see Linux loading screens,  especially after quiting.

I don't have Stepmania, but it can run Quake III Arena, so I would think so.

You'll have to search the PI forums but there is a way to direct most of the console output to "null" so you just see a black screen.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 24, 2015, 03:18:50 pm
I've got a recommended 5v 2A charger powering the Pi2. What does the USB port output in terms of Amps?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: pbj on February 24, 2015, 03:19:33 pm
I've got a recommended 5v 2A charger powering the Pi2. What does the USB port output in terms of Amps?

Who cares?  Do it anyway.

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: nitrogen_widget on February 24, 2015, 03:19:42 pm
hdmi to vga requires a converter from digital to analog and they usually run about 30 bucks,  now if you have a dvi monitor a hdmi to dvi stays digital and you can get them on ebay for about 5-7 bucks.

IF you don't mind waiting for a few weeks for it to arrive you can get them on EBAY from China for about $7 -- I just received one of these the other week for the GameStick I had bought on clearance and it works fine for connecting the GameStick to my Acer Monitor and also has the audio output for a cheap set of Logitech speakers. ( I originally got a $5 HDMI to DVI convertor but that lacked the audio and the gamestick didn't have separate audio outputs and doesn't support the $1 USB Soundcard from China either ! ) -  Linkie to the one I purchased - ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/221588431594?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=520447402104&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221588431594?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=520447402104&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) )

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAxMFgxMDEw/z/5rUAAOSwEppUT1OF/$_57.JPG)

I just got one of these in:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MW0KOMA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MW0KOMA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

Which looks to be the same device & it works really well with the RPI1 & my Android stick's.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: otsep on February 24, 2015, 05:57:15 pm
This will replace the boot text with an image.
http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-operating-systems/raspbian/custom-boot-up-screen (http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-operating-systems/raspbian/custom-boot-up-screen)

Also, PiPlay updated their build for the Pi 2 on the 20th.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 24, 2015, 06:46:26 pm
Tested them both today. EmulationStation is still better looking than PiPlay.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Admiral688 on February 24, 2015, 08:00:59 pm
Tested them both today. EmulationStation is still better looking than PiPlay.
The burning question for me is how well will it play some of the classics such as tempest and defender......
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: lordnacho on February 24, 2015, 10:24:51 pm
Just got mine the other day as well, didn't realize they switched to micro SD.  emulation station will have to wait a couple days
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on February 24, 2015, 10:26:54 pm
Tested them both today. EmulationStation is still better looking than PiPlay.
The burning question for me is how well will it play some of the classics such as tempest and defender......

Probably the same, since they both use the same versions of Mame4All/AdvanceMAME and romsets.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Admiral688 on February 25, 2015, 08:47:05 am
Tested them both today. EmulationStation is still better looking than PiPlay.
The burning question for me is how well will it play some of the classics such as tempest and defender......

Probably the same, since they both use the same versions of Mame4All/AdvanceMAME and romsets.
I didn't know how well it did on the Rev 1.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on February 25, 2015, 11:26:09 am
If anyone wants to use the composite AV jack, here is the method to switch it from hdmi to composite out:
https://bhavyanshu.me/tutorials/force-raspberry-pi-output-to-composite-video-instead-of-hdmi/03/03/2014/
Also, on a "regular" av cable (I used one from an old video camera I had lying around), on the cable when plugged into the Pi, red is video and yellow and white are audio.
Yellow is video on anything else I have ever tried, don't know why Pi swapped the red and yellow, but it's no big deal as long as you remember it.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on February 25, 2015, 12:54:36 pm
I've got a recommended 5v 2A charger powering the Pi2. What does the USB port output in terms of Amps?

I'm 90% sure that the 5v GPIO pin out puts what ever Amps lest over from operations. I don't know what the USB can out put safely. Who many amps do you need? I can post a question on the Pi forums to find out.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 25, 2015, 04:38:26 pm
Case arrived. Panel mount cables are a little too bulky and inflexible. I need to put some thought in this. Is it safe to remove the sheath/shielding on these cables?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: otsep on February 25, 2015, 11:37:20 pm
Case arrived. Panel mount cables are a little too bulky and inflexible. I need to put some thought in this. Is it safe to remove the sheath/shielding on these cables?

I wouldn't unless you plan on cutting the down to size and repacking.  Have you checked out smaller cable like the ones from adafruit?

https://www.adafruit.com/category/33 (https://www.adafruit.com/category/33)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: keilmillerjr on February 26, 2015, 06:03:59 am
Case arrived. Panel mount cables are a little too bulky and inflexible. I need to put some thought in this. Is it safe to remove the sheath/shielding on these cables?

I wouldn't unless you plan on cutting the down to size and repacking.  Have you checked out smaller cable like the ones from adafruit?

https://www.adafruit.com/category/33 (https://www.adafruit.com/category/33)

That's where I got them from.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: otsep on February 26, 2015, 08:10:26 am


I wouldn't unless you plan on cutting the down to size and repacking.  Have you checked out smaller cable like the ones from adafruit?

https://www.adafruit.com/category/33 (https://www.adafruit.com/category/33)

That's where I got them from.

Ah. I thought they were smaller.


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Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on March 01, 2015, 01:02:29 am
I have my Pi2 hooked up to a PC monitor, via a cheap HDMI to DVI cable, it looks real good.
Also put PiPlay on a new micro sdcard and been playing around with it.
I like being able to put the roms on it from my desktop PC, via Ethernet cable.
Although haven't figured out yet how to transfer the snap images.
Also hooked AV to my TV to test the audio. It works but I had to turn the TV up pretty loud. Any suggestions on what i need to do to boost the audio output?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: yotsuya on March 01, 2015, 01:03:37 am
I have my Pi2 hooked up to a PC monitor, via a cheap HDMI to DVI cable, it looks real good.
Also put PiPlay on a new micro sdcard and been playing around with it.
I like being able to put the roms on it from my desktop PC, via Ethernet cable.
Although haven't figured out yet how to transfer the snap images.
Also hooked AV to my TV to test the audio. It works but I had to turn the TV up pretty loud. Any suggestions on what i need to do to boost the audio output?

There's either a command you can use in Linux, or they recommend a USB sound card.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: tony.silveira on March 01, 2015, 06:19:59 pm
I picked mine up locally and so far am loving it.  I have been searching for a case for th eli that will hold a 2.5 inch hip, any suggestions?

Also, I will be getting a larger sd card, 32 go.  Anyone know how to transfer my currently configured emulation station 8 gig sd card to a new 32 so that I don't have to do all of the configuring again?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: Locke141 on March 02, 2015, 02:12:01 am
I picked mine up locally and so far am loving it.  I have been searching for a case for th eli that will hold a 2.5 inch hip, any suggestions?

Also, I will be getting a larger sd card, 32 go.  Anyone know how to transfer my currently configured emulation station 8 gig sd card to a new 32 so that I don't have to do all of the configuring again?

Thanks

Here is how to clone your SD card.
http://computers.tutsplus.com/articles/how-to-clone-raspberry-pi-sd-cards-using-the-command-line-in-os-x--mac-59911 (http://computers.tutsplus.com/articles/how-to-clone-raspberry-pi-sd-cards-using-the-command-line-in-os-x--mac-59911)

I don't know what you mean by "a case for th eli that will hold a 2.5 inch hip," but here is a cool NES case I wanted to share any way.

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:449877 (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:449877)

Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: DaOld Man on March 02, 2015, 06:06:04 pm
Thats a neat case! If only I had a 3d printer!
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: jonnylbluejeans on March 04, 2015, 10:23:11 am
I have a MAME4ALL setup using a B+, and am about to start working on one for the Pi2.  Polling the GPIO pins constantly will eat CPU cycles needed by the emulator (even on the ramped up Pi2), so using something like the 2 Player Xin Mo USB joystick encoder is more favorable.  My question is, is there a better option than using the usb encoder with wires soldered to a JB-3 JAMMA fingerboard for a clean connection to a FULL JAMMA harness (like the Game Elf aka buttons 1-6 on the JAMMA harness)?
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 04, 2015, 12:16:50 pm
I have a MAME4ALL setup using a B+, and am about to start working on one for the Pi2.  Polling the GPIO pins constantly will eat CPU cycles needed by the emulator (even on the ramped up Pi2), so using something like the 2 Player Xin Mo USB joystick encoder is more favorable.  My question is, is there a better option than using the usb encoder with wires soldered to a JB-3 JAMMA fingerboard for a clean connection to a FULL JAMMA harness (like the Game Elf aka buttons 1-6 on the JAMMA harness)?

That's one of those kinda-sorta-myths about the RPI.
Everything uses cpu cycles but i've yet to see where using the GPIO vs USB for controls is better or worse and considering the multi-page threads concerning using a GPIO for control on the RPI forums I have hard time believing this will affect game play at all.
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: jonnylbluejeans on March 04, 2015, 01:07:37 pm
I have a MAME4ALL setup using a B+, and am about to start working on one for the Pi2.  Polling the GPIO pins constantly will eat CPU cycles needed by the emulator (even on the ramped up Pi2), so using something like the 2 Player Xin Mo USB joystick encoder is more favorable.  My question is, is there a better option than using the usb encoder with wires soldered to a JB-3 JAMMA fingerboard for a clean connection to a FULL JAMMA harness (like the Game Elf aka buttons 1-6 on the JAMMA harness)?

That's one of those kinda-sorta-myths about the RPI.
Everything uses cpu cycles but i've yet to see where using the GPIO vs USB for controls is better or worse and considering the multi-page threads concerning using a GPIO for control on the RPI forums I have hard time believing this will affect game play at all.
That's possible.  OK, going the GPIO route...  GPIO header pins --> 40 pin IDE cable (with other end cut/stripped) --> JB-3 Fingerboard --> JAMMA harness.  Is there a better way?  (PiJAMMA is not an option)
Title: Re: Ok, I broke down and ordered a new Pi
Post by: nitrogen_widget on March 04, 2015, 02:36:10 pm
I have a MAME4ALL setup using a B+, and am about to start working on one for the Pi2.  Polling the GPIO pins constantly will eat CPU cycles needed by the emulator (even on the ramped up Pi2), so using something like the 2 Player Xin Mo USB joystick encoder is more favorable.  My question is, is there a better option than using the usb encoder with wires soldered to a JB-3 JAMMA fingerboard for a clean connection to a FULL JAMMA harness (like the Game Elf aka buttons 1-6 on the JAMMA harness)?

That's one of those kinda-sorta-myths about the RPI.
Everything uses cpu cycles but i've yet to see where using the GPIO vs USB for controls is better or worse and considering the multi-page threads concerning using a GPIO for control on the RPI forums I have hard time believing this will affect game play at all.
That's possible.  OK, going the GPIO route...  GPIO header pins --> 40 pin IDE cable (with other end cut/stripped) --> JB-3 Fingerboard --> JAMMA harness.  Is there a better way?  (PiJAMMA is not an option)

"better" depends on what's easier for you. :)
I was just pointing out the GPIO route won't cause performance issues over the USB route.

The one thing about mame4all_pi is you can't have a USB joystick and a mouse (trackball) plugged in at the same time so I opted for the GPIO route.
I picked up a header extender & a soldered everything on.
Basically followed the guide on Adafruits website along with the app they had.

Now i'm switching to the RPI2 and probably going with a Kade and using my rpi1 for something else.