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Software Support => GroovyMAME => Topic started by: stellarola on November 28, 2014, 11:47:41 am

Title: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: stellarola on November 28, 2014, 11:47:41 am
Hey Calamity and crew,

I'm having trouble getting Windows 7 with CRT EMUDRIVER to work on my New Astro City monitors. I have Windows XP version of the drivers running just fine on my MS9 monitors in my Astro cabs, no issue.

I originally followed the instructions provided to get Windows 7 working in 15khz and was unsuccessful on my Astros. Later I tried on another monitor that is tri-sync, and it works perfect under 15khz on this monitor, but not my MS9s in my New Astro City cabs. I just get a black screen with no desktop with my Astros.

I'm running through a J-PAC on the New Astro cabs, but only straight DB15 on my tri-sync monitor. I haven't tried to get 24/31khz working as it's not important for my needs. 15khz runs fine.

I'm running latest CRT Emudriver for Windows 7 x64 Ultimate. Radeon 4550 PCI-E.

I unfortunately I don't have the tri-sync cab in the same location as the Astros, so I can only test them at one location or another.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: Pictures of GroovyMAME running on Tri-sync monitor. It's a Toshiba Pure Flat in my Sega New Net City cab.

(http://cl.ly/image/1e0L3J1X120p/IMG_0966.JPG)

(http://cl.ly/image/1K3R3S1I2S1E/IMG_0965.JPG)
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: Calamity on November 28, 2014, 11:58:37 am
That's the typical detection issue. Use the other output (DVI) with an DVI-VGA converter.
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: stellarola on November 28, 2014, 01:38:06 pm
That's the typical detection issue. Use the other output (DVI) with an DVI-VGA converter.

I had it hooked up this method originally, perhaps I missed something. I now have it running through DVI>VGA on the tri-sync. Hopefully when I take it home to my other cabs it will sort itself out. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the quick response, Calamity. :)

-Stell
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: stellarola on November 29, 2014, 11:31:19 am
I have it working now, but I have inconsistent behavior when connecting it from the monitor at one location to another. I don't have 480i as a selectable option, though I had it working at one point in time. Just can't seem to get my options to stay put.
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: planexcvs on November 29, 2014, 12:33:06 pm
I have it working now, but I have inconsistent behavior when connecting it from the monitor at one location to another. I don't have 480i as a selectable option, though I had it working at one point in time. Just can't seem to get my options to stay put.

Yup, I was having the very same consistency issues on my NAC with that very same gpu even with monitor swap steps. I ended up giving up and sticking with XP since I was going to run groovymame off of dual monitors anyway.
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: Calamity on November 29, 2014, 01:01:36 pm
Hi stellarola,

Please check this thread:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142237.msg1473435.html#msg1473435 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142237.msg1473435.html#msg1473435)

I'm not sure but it could be the same issue that's known to happen with HD 48xx cards. I'd like to make sure if this is the case, so I can buy one of those cards and test it here myself. It's a bit difficult to find a solution without having the physical card here to test.
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: stellarola on November 29, 2014, 02:40:24 pm
I finally settled the issue I was experiencing with random drops in framerate. The frame drop would become even greater when I'd increase the frame_delay setting. My solution was to turn speedstep off. 100% speed in Futari now! :)
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: Calamity on December 02, 2014, 11:27:18 am
I finally settled the issue I was experiencing with random drops in framerate. The frame drop would become even greater when I'd increase the frame_delay setting. My solution was to turn speedstep off. 100% speed in Futari now! :)

Thanks for sharing this! This is interesting, I didn't know that feature even existed, this will help other users with this kind of issues.
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: adder on December 02, 2014, 01:39:44 pm
Quote from: stellarola
My solution was to turn speedstep off
thanks i just turned it off on my pc also as i noticed it was set to enabled, and dont want my system worrying about that :)
in some pc's bios screens, the speedstep feature will be simply known as E.I.S.T
(Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology allows the system to dynamically adjust processor voltage and core frequency)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/105rwv9.png)
Title: Re: CRT EMUDRIVER (Windows 7) works on Tri-sync, but not on other 15khz monitors...
Post by: planexcvs on December 07, 2014, 10:34:44 pm
Hi stellarola,

Please check this thread:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142237.msg1473435.html#msg1473435 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142237.msg1473435.html#msg1473435)

I'm not sure but it could be the same issue that's known to happen with HD 48xx cards. I'd like to make sure if this is the case, so I can buy one of those cards and test it here myself. It's a bit difficult to find a solution without having the physical card here to test.

Just following up with this. I tested with Win 7 on my MS9 again and that solution seems to have worked partially. I'm able to exit GroovyMAME back to desktop/frontend without the monitor desyncing. The only times I lose the 15k is when I restart Windows. I haven't yet tried setting a permanent screen resolution in Windows 7 or found where to hide unsupported resolutions in screen properties other than the Arcade OSD.

Anyhow, any progress is good progress.