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Title: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: adder on November 19, 2014, 02:41:29 pm
hi can anyone be a pal and provide a text file containing a list of all the games in mame 155 which fall under the fruit machine/mechanical category (ie. stuff which is not really suitable for a standard mame cab containing regular joystick/buttons)
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: BadMouth on November 19, 2014, 02:50:54 pm
http://www.waste.org/~winkles/ROMLister/ (http://www.waste.org/~winkles/ROMLister/)
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: adder on November 19, 2014, 03:03:52 pm
i appreciate the link but it always ends in disaster when i try to use romlister.
thanks in advance if anyone can attach a .txt file listing mame.155 fruit machine/mechanical and other non-playable stuff (pinball?)
 :)
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: Vigo on November 19, 2014, 03:29:31 pm
did you try mawler?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,136193.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,136193.0.html)
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: adder on November 19, 2014, 04:46:10 pm
did you try mawler?
cheers i just gave it a try, i used mame 155 xml with mawler as it requested it. thing is, im not sure its finding as many unwanted games as i expected. does anyone know if i need to provide mawler with more data, eg. something called catver.ini (dont know where to get that), or something else? thanks
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: keilmillerjr on November 19, 2014, 05:15:41 pm
did you try mawler?
cheers i just gave it a try, i used mame 155 xml with mawler as it requested it. thing is, im not sure its finding as many unwanted games as i expected. does anyone know if i need to provide mawler with more data, eg. something called catver.ini (dont know where to get that), or something else? thanks

You can find it here, currently up to date with 0.154: http://www.progettoemma.net/?catlist (http://www.progettoemma.net/?catlist)
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: NOP on November 21, 2014, 09:37:54 am
i appreciate the link but it always ends in disaster when i try to use romlister.
thanks in advance if anyone can attach a .txt file listing mame.155 fruit machine/mechanical and other non-playable stuff (pinball?)
 :)

what exactly does that mean?  as the author of romlister, I'm curious as to what your user experience is that is making such a disaster.  If you don't provide feedback, I can't make it better.
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: adder on November 22, 2014, 07:27:53 am
i appreciate the link but it always ends in disaster when i try to use romlister.
thanks in advance if anyone can attach a .txt file listing mame.155 fruit machine/mechanical and other non-playable stuff (pinball?)
 :)

what exactly does that mean?  as the author of romlister, I'm curious as to what your user experience is that is making such a disaster.  If you don't provide feedback, I can't make it better.
hi :)
by 'disaster' i meant that i suck with romlister as it has a lot of options at hand so i didnt know how to do effective searching and so on. over the last few days though, i've spent some time on it and getting better with using it.
im using romlister build 30, mame 155, merged xml
regarding the electromechanical games (pinmame), i notice i get 1399 results using that search,  but if instead i type 'mechanical' in the -find command box, i get 9422 results. i notice none of the romlister 'categories allowed' allow you to select 'mechanical' games though, is there a reason for that ie. is that a non-recommended way of searching? (it looks like it pulls in fruit machine games by using the 'mechanical' search).  having a look through the mechanical search results, i did notice the game ikari warriors is listed there, including the 8way joystick hack version which no doubt isnt a mechanical game. obviously this isnt an actual romlister error of course, but does it mean it's better to avoid searching for 'mechanical' games (ie. it may not yield accurate results?)
ps. just noticed your batch file save option which allows you to edit text before/after the rom name, .. very nice :)
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: dgame on November 22, 2014, 10:05:04 am
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/mame.lst (https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/mame.lst)

Line 12978 /* Drivers below are _mostly_ mechanical games, usually with no video display, requiring external artwork to function. */

I delete everything below that line before I compile MAME.
Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: NOP on November 22, 2014, 10:16:56 am
i notice none of the romlister 'categories allowed' allow you to select 'mechanical' games though, is there a reason for that ie. is that a non-recommended way of searching?
The categories allowed are completely driven by catver.ini.  They break up pinmame and fruit machines into two groups:
<category>Fruit Machines</category>
<category>Electromechanical - PinMAME</category>

All I'm doing is allowing you to filter at the same level as catver by replicating their categories in the RL front end.


MAME developers have their own tag (which is basically what you were searching on with your "mechanical" search:
<game name="18w" sourcefile="mw18w.c" ismechanical="yes">
This appears to cover both fruits and pinmames.
So it's up to you as to what level of detail you want to drill into the data.

Ikari warriors is showing up in your list because, as you already mentioned, the XML data looks like this:
<Control Name="8-way Rotary Joystick(Mechanical)">

So your basic 'mechanical' search grabbed that too.

I would suggest altering your search criteria slightly by doing this instead:
ismechanical=yes

that appears to pull out all the pinmames and fruits but skips over the joystick mechanical tags.


You are 100% on the right track by doing your own text edit searches.  I simply can't provide a GUI interface to do every possible combination of whatever you dream up, which is why all the buttons and checkboxes do is alter the -find: text area.  It sounds way less disastery than I was expecting.  :)


Title: Re: mame 155 list of unwanted games
Post by: adder on November 22, 2014, 12:30:29 pm
ok thanks guys for the info, much appreciated   i think i should be able to do a pretty decent purge now ^-^