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Title: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: bulbousbeard on November 06, 2014, 06:58:39 am
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: ark_ader on November 06, 2014, 07:05:28 am
Lol.

If we were being serious here, the alternative to the raspi is a mk808 with a price tag of $45.

Intel NUCs are good for bare metal hyper visors not Mame rigs.  Especially at over $380.
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: Typefighter01 on November 06, 2014, 09:01:09 am
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)

Dude, that's like $450 bucks shipped to my door and I still need an OS. Give your head a shake, some of us are happy with playing 10 classics at full speed for $50 and don't give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about the rest. There is no argument here...move along. :banghead:
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: JDFan on November 06, 2014, 09:45:37 am
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Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: Vigo on November 06, 2014, 10:44:53 am
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)

This thread might as well said:

Stop using regular milk; it's not delicious enough for your Frankenberries.

If you want delicious milk, get Tuscan whole milk. It's actually delicious enough to enjoy your cereal properly.

http://www.amazon.com/Tuscan-Whole-Milk-Gallon-128/dp/B00032G1S0 (http://www.amazon.com/Tuscan-Whole-Milk-Gallon-128/dp/B00032G1S0)
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: keilmillerjr on November 06, 2014, 11:29:54 am
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)

Dude, that's like $450 bucks shipped to my door and I still need an OS.

Linux is FREE. Needing an OS should not be a factor in price.
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: shponglefan on November 06, 2014, 11:36:20 am
OP is satire, yes?
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: yotsuya on November 06, 2014, 11:37:36 am
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)

This thread might as well said:

Stop using regular milk; it's not delicious enough for your Frankenberries.

If you want delicious milk, get Tuscan whole milk. It's actually delicious enough to enjoy your cereal properly.

http://www.amazon.com/Tuscan-Whole-Milk-Gallon-128/dp/B00032G1S0 (http://www.amazon.com/Tuscan-Whole-Milk-Gallon-128/dp/B00032G1S0)
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: yotsuya on November 06, 2014, 11:38:16 am
OP is satire, yes?

No.
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: Typefighter01 on November 06, 2014, 11:42:11 am
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)

Dude, that's like $450 bucks shipped to my door and I still need an OS.

Linux is FREE. Needing an OS should not be a factor in price.

OP didn't say "If you want a small form factor, that runs Linux, get an i5 NUC".

I get it, your a web developer, some of us are just everyday dullards who buy retail versions of Windows at Best Buy. So, no, your wrong, I will keep the OS as part of my cost thank you very much...
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: Typefighter01 on November 06, 2014, 11:46:50 am
OMG, I just realized that bulbousbeard succeeded in hooking me with his ridiculous Pi vs every other computer ever made debate. My apologies to the community for bumping the thread (there is no sarcasm here, I am truly sorry)...I'm Audi :dizzy:
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: dkersten on November 06, 2014, 01:59:51 pm
So to run mame "properly", you NEED an i5 NUC (or faster x86 based PC) and an $800 Asus ROG Swift G-sync LCD monitor.  Apparently you also NEED true original leaf switches and since you are running an LCD, the proper HLSL settings.  And the right "float" technique. 

We are ALL doing it wrong, and there are two experts on this board to set us straight. 

Good to know, thanks!

Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: keilmillerjr on November 06, 2014, 02:10:39 pm
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)

Dude, that's like $450 bucks shipped to my door and I still need an OS.

Linux is FREE. Needing an OS should not be a factor in price.

OP didn't say "If you want a small form factor, that runs Linux, get an i5 NUC".

I get it, your a web developer, some of us are just everyday dullards who buy retail versions of Windows at Best Buy. So, no, your wrong, I will keep the OS as part of my cost thank you very much...

Ubuntu is just as easy to set up as winblows. Throw your money away. I don't care.
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: yotsuya on November 06, 2014, 02:12:53 pm
The NUC is 3x the price of a Win 7 OEM disk with key. F that!
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: pbj on November 06, 2014, 02:38:30 pm
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Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: LightningBolt on November 06, 2014, 02:44:18 pm
How well does it run 3d games like tekken 3
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: Typefighter01 on November 06, 2014, 02:48:34 pm
If you want a small form factor, get an i5 NUC. It's actually fast enough to run MAME properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102035)





Dude, that's like $450 bucks shipped to my door and I still need an OS.

Linux is FREE. Needing an OS should not be a factor in price.

OP didn't say "If you want a small form factor, that runs Linux, get an i5 NUC".

I get it, your a web developer, some of us are just everyday dullards who buy retail versions of Windows at Best Buy. So, no, your wrong, I will keep the OS as part of my cost thank you very much...

Ubuntu is just as easy to set up as winblows. Throw your money away. I don't care.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/) oh yeah...just straight up plug and play...not :dunno.

This is my position (devil on shoulder is yelling "Stop it, your wasting your time", but anyway), if I am going to spend $450 for a NUC (actually, it now looks like more than that as I live in Canada, so that makes it $550), then I am simply going to install windows and then install any piece of software or program my heart desires without jumping through hoops and enjoy it. That's if I was going to use a NUC to play "Pac Man", but I wouldn't do that, cause I'm not a doorknob, I would just use the Pi for $50 and be happy.

Now, if I wanted to play the latest version of MAME with all the bells and whistles and Hyperspin, then I probably still wouldn't use a NUC, I would piece together my own Mini-ITX for a reasonable price and play whatever the hell I wanted.

I always love the Apple and Windows haters...just too cool for mainstream :laugh2:

I am not the OP BTW...
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: yotsuya on November 06, 2014, 02:53:50 pm
That's if I was going to use a NUC to play "Pac Man", but I wouldn't do that, cause I'm not a doorknob, I would just use the Pi for $50 and be happy.

Now, if I wanted to play the latest version of MAME with all the bells and whistles and Hyperspin, then I probably still wouldn't use a NUC, I would piece together my own Mini-ITX for a reasonable price and play whatever the hell I wanted.

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Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: Hoopz on November 06, 2014, 03:27:33 pm
I miss threads like this.   :cheers:
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: mvolke1 on November 06, 2014, 03:34:10 pm
Mine works great. Overclock it, and you're good to go.
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: retrogamedude on November 06, 2014, 07:08:46 pm
People buy windows?  I have about 10 pc's none of which I have ever paid for a single windows from 98 all the way to 8...
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: nitrogen_widget on November 06, 2014, 07:34:53 pm
Mine works great. Overclock it, and you're good to go.

Just be careful you cool it properly.
Q-bert is pixel pusher.

(http://misapuntesde.com/images/2013/07/water_cooled_02.jpg)
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: keilmillerjr on November 06, 2014, 09:05:55 pm
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/) oh yeah...just straight up plug and play...not :dunno.

This is my position (devil on shoulder is yelling "Stop it, your wasting your time", but anyway), if I am going to spend $450 for a NUC (actually, it now looks like more than that as I live in Canada, so that makes it $550), then I am simply going to install windows and then install any piece of software or program my heart desires without jumping through hoops and enjoy it. That's if I was going to use a NUC to play "Pac Man", but I wouldn't do that, cause I'm not a doorknob, I would just use the Pi for $50 and be happy.

Now, if I wanted to play the latest version of MAME with all the bells and whistles and Hyperspin, then I probably still wouldn't use a NUC, I would piece together my own Mini-ITX for a reasonable price and play whatever the hell I wanted.

I always love the Apple and Windows haters...just too cool for mainstream :laugh2:

I am not the OP BTW...

This thread is about running mame... not about running PC games. Point still stands. :blah:
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: ark_ader on November 07, 2014, 05:51:56 am
Android is still a viable option.  It just works for emulators.  Why does it have to be so technically difficult or costly to play a 30+ old game?   ::)
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: ChanceKJ on November 08, 2014, 07:53:10 pm
First, if your paying anything more than $400 for a NUC up here in Canada, your doing it wrong.

Second, if Pi works for some applications, just not yours then your giving bad advice even if you think you're helping.

Third, who the ---fudgesicle--- pays for windows these days?!

Forth, this thread is entertaining. :laugh: especially the memes

Fifth, Troll. TrollTrollTroll,  Troll troll....

And F.  ...I went looking for a good Pi walkthrough for the basis of one of my upcoming projects, but I can't seem to find one. I mean, just something simple that I can use to boot to DK. Am I missing the good step by step "how to build with Pi" sticky thread?

We need more threads like this?

 :D
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: mvolke1 on November 09, 2014, 05:43:18 pm


And F.  ...I went looking for a good Pi walkthrough for the basis of one of my upcoming projects, but I can't seem to find one. I mean, just something simple that I can use to boot to DK. Am I missing the good step by step "how to build with Pi" sticky thread?

We need more threads like this?

 :D

This is the article that got me thinking Pi. I just put one in a bar top I'm building, and I'm very happy with it.

http://lifehacker.com/how-to-turn-your-raspberry-pi-into-a-retro-game-console-498561192 (http://lifehacker.com/how-to-turn-your-raspberry-pi-into-a-retro-game-console-498561192)
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: nitrogen_widget on November 09, 2014, 07:56:28 pm
Using this guide I have my pi booting to advmenu.
Shouldn't be too hard to just call a ROM to boot.
http://devtidbits.com/2012/11/26/mame-arcade-game-fun-with-a-raspberry-pi/ (http://devtidbits.com/2012/11/26/mame-arcade-game-fun-with-a-raspberry-pi/)
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: ChanceKJ on November 09, 2014, 08:08:30 pm
 :applaud:

And that folks, is how we turn a non-constructive thread into a constructive one.   ;D
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: jdbailey1206 on November 10, 2014, 10:21:44 am
http://youtu.be/SYPq1dd8-uE (http://youtu.be/SYPq1dd8-uE)

Oops.  Wrong pie.
Title: Re: PSA: Stop using Raspberry Pis; they're not fast enough for MAME
Post by: yotsuya on November 10, 2014, 10:30:32 am
Oops.  Wrong pie.

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