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Title: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: blubberpud on August 12, 2014, 08:20:18 pm
Hey,
I have a Cruis'n World Cab, with a Wells Garner U5000 25" chassis.  The board is blown and I need some ideas of what I can do to fix / replace it??

Is it worth trying to fix the board?
Replace with a new/used chassis? What can I use?
Replace with LCD?  What can I use?

Thanks in advance,
Jay
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: crtrrss on August 13, 2014, 12:39:55 am
You'll probably need these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wells-Gardner-U5000-Cap-Kit-Get-Well-Kit-for-Monitor-Repair-/360717051780?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fc696784 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wells-Gardner-U5000-Cap-Kit-Get-Well-Kit-for-Monitor-Repair-/360717051780?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fc696784)) and a Youtube tutorial
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: blubberpud on August 13, 2014, 08:44:01 am
Thx for the reply.
This board has had a cap kit done on it sometime in it's life, the issue that i'm seeing...well is nothing, no video, but a steady tick..tick..tick...etc... from the board on power up, the rest of the cabinet seems to work fine.
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: Sarver Systems on August 13, 2014, 12:06:53 pm
Did you replace the flyback?

THat boards looks pristine to me. I wouldnt throw it away in a million years, unless you see obvious signs of burning, or tons of lifted traces.

Can you take a pic of the back of the board?
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: blubberpud on August 13, 2014, 10:18:25 pm
I re-flowed any connections that looked like they could be a problem, cold joint etc...  still no joy.

Found the service manual :
"In the event of excessive current demand from the main B+ rail, the switcher is designed to shut-down its output............blah blah blah.......Periodically, the switcher attempts to restart.  If the fault persists, it will once again shut itself down.  This condition can be heard as a faint "ticking" within the switching supply."

Sounds like the issue, but what could cause "excessive current demand on the B+ rail"??

Also another "U5000 Troubleshooting Guide"
SYMPTOM: NO PICTURE/ VIDEO COMMENT: TICKING SOUND CAUSE: IC U500, Q501,C116, ICU101, CRT

These components are all on the neck-board, could a one of these bad components be the issue??


Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: ed12 on August 13, 2014, 11:01:53 pm
that board from what i can see has had 1 of the  >3< service kit's put in it >vertictial<..
what u might want to look at >IS< the vert ic,it will pull down the b+ to tick tick stage..
in our monitor fourm's u find a boat load of info on these..inculding a bad
diode/resistor combo on the lower b+ side..22volt to 12volt
go look there before giving up..that board just look's to good

ed
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: MK3FAN on August 14, 2014, 12:02:24 am
The "tick tick tick" is also an indication of a blown horizontal output transistor. Replace the HOT and I bet you'll be back in business.
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: blubberpud on August 15, 2014, 10:57:43 am
I appreciate the responses!  I'll see what I can accomplish this weekend and let you know the results.
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: blubberpud on August 23, 2014, 05:00:46 pm
Okay, finally got some time to get parts and work on this, replaced the H.O.T. (Q704) and 3 other transistors (Q703,705 & Q708) from the "Horizontal Output Update" Service Kit.....No Joy!!! still tick...tick...tick..... :angry:

Need to do some research on the Vertical IC, to find out what circuit and parts are included in that.

Anything else I can look at or advice?

Thx, Jay
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: adidas1984x on August 23, 2014, 05:19:29 pm
i sent my u5000 to the arcade buffett and got a k7000 im going to use but have to add the isolation transformer tho
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: blubberpud on August 23, 2014, 05:54:40 pm
I'm not sure what arcade buffett is?  http://thearcadebuffett.com/ (http://thearcadebuffett.com/)  seems to be down?
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: Rickn on August 26, 2014, 09:17:45 am
E-mail me if you do not get the attachment?
Rick@niemandisplays.com
Title: Re: Help on Cruis'n World Cab WGU5000, need new monitor/board
Post by: blubberpud on February 09, 2015, 08:28:53 pm
I hate threads that just die, so here is a final update.  Bought a CGA->VGA converter and went LCD with it, couldn't put anymore time into troubleshooting the board.  Looks sweet on a LCD.