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Title: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 10, 2014, 11:37:36 am
Here's where I'm at so far with the Outrun mini cab.  Picked up the cab for $50.00 and ripped the guts out.  I ended up cutting about 10" or so of the depth off the back of the cab since there was so much wasted space once an LCD was installed.  Also removed the the hi-lo shifter and modified the control panel to accept a Ketz 4 speed shifter from a Scud Race.  Modified the monitor area to accept a 24" LCD.    That's about it for now and the cab still needs some work including sand/fill and paint and it needs one small repair under the edge molding by the pedal area.

For the computer, I have an i7-4770 Haswel (3.4 quad with boost to 3.8), 8GB RAM, Geforce GTX-560-ti 1GB card and 500GB SATA hard drive.   Windows 7 x64 is installed along with Sega Model 2, Supermodel, and mameUI64 with a few driving games from each of those for rtesting.  I'm interfacing the pots to the computer via an A-pac which I wish I wouldn't have bought.  I need something that presents itself as one joystick for everything.  Has anyone use the U-HID?

Here are some pics of this thing so far:

(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140704_015525.jpg)

(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140704_021557.jpg)

(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140704_020551.jpg)

(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140704_015419.jpg)




(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140704_170009.jpg)
(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140704_173010.jpg)
(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140704_191804.jpg)

Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: Howard_Casto on July 10, 2014, 12:33:17 pm
You linked your images wrong.  Use the image tags, not the url ones.  Also you seem to have fudged the first link in each group. 
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: BadMouth on July 10, 2014, 02:26:08 pm
I edited it to fix the tags, but I can't see the pics on my work computer.  Hope it worked!  :lol
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: lamprey on July 10, 2014, 03:12:52 pm
I edited it to fix the tags, but I can't see the pics on my work computer.  Hope it worked!  :lol
I can't se them.

The properties show this, which doesn't look right:
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Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: Le Chuck on July 10, 2014, 03:31:56 pm
Originally I fixed the OP's pics but now that that isn't necessary I'll use this space to talk about how I really like this build and have aspirations of a dedicated driver myself.  Looks like a great project and I like the way the OP thinned down the back on the cab, looks great!
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: BadMouth on July 10, 2014, 03:53:57 pm
I edited it to fix the tags, but I can't see the pics on my work computer.  Hope it worked!  :lol
I can't se them.

The properties show this, which doesn't look right:
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grrr...was in a hurry and sometimes can't see linked pics from work anyway so I missed that.
fixed.

Thanks Le Chuck.  Sorry for making your post redundant now.  :-[

EDIT: Wow, a Ketz 4 speed in an Outrun cab!  That will probably make some purists cringe, but I like it!
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 10, 2014, 05:03:25 pm
Sorry, don't know where the pic links got messed up.  I edited my post over on VPforums and copied the text over.  ooops... sorry guys.  Ya I really wanted the 4-speed in this cab.  I haven't wired it up but I have the IC chip that someone made a video about.  I may get to that tonight.  I'm also going to make some kind of bezel to go over the shifter and flush onto the top of the cut portions of the original control panel.  I really should have finished up the cabinet repairs before hooking up the computer because now whenever I go out to the garage to work on it, I just end up playing Indy 500 for like 2 hours instead.....
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 10, 2014, 05:05:00 pm
I also have a second ketz shifter that I may want to sell later  if anyone is looking for one.   
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: gbeef on July 10, 2014, 05:20:50 pm
Looking great so far, can wait to see this done! ;D Always fun to see another take on outrun.
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 11, 2014, 12:49:12 am
It's gonna be a few week process at least but I will get it looking/playing good.... I'm on a mission  ;D  I'm actually finishing up my version 2.0 pinball cab right now as well so I'm kind of bouncing back and forth between the two projects right now.

Need some input tho guys on my attempted ketz shifter hack.  I found a youtube video where a guy shows how to wire the three microswitches in the kezt to an ic decoder and get four separate outputs for wiring into my A-pac.  I followed the wiring diagram he posted and it doesn't seem to be working.  With the thing powered up with 5vdc, shifting through the various gears does not ground any of the output pins....  here is the wiring pinout I followed:

74LS138 pins:

1 - Shifter Grey/Red wire
2 - Shifter Grey/Blue wire
3 - Shifter Grey/Yellow wire
4 - GND
5 - GND
6 - VCC
7 - neutral output (tie to 12)
8 - GND
9 - 2nd gear output
10 - 1st gear output
11 - NC
12 - neutral output (tie to 7)
13 - 4th gear output
14 - 3rd gear output
15 - NC
16 - NC

Has anyone done this hack?  I notices the picture on the video appears to show his ic wired up differently that the posted diagram (he has a wire that appears to be grounding pin 9 visible in the video???).  Help dudes!!  I need this shifter working for some Daytona action!! 
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 11, 2014, 12:51:08 am
here's the vid I'm talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0grHZs-vp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0grHZs-vp4)
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: SlammedNiss on July 11, 2014, 03:35:24 am
@2:03 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0grHZs-vp4#t=2m03s)  :laugh2: 
Quote
The extra wires there, you don't really need to worry about. They just need to be connected for it to operate correctly.

So don't worry about those wires, unless you actually want to make it work!
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: vandale on July 11, 2014, 03:38:54 am
Here is some motivation from my build:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133948.msg1380443.html#msg1380443 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133948.msg1380443.html#msg1380443)
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 11, 2014, 11:14:50 am
@2:03 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0grHZs-vp4#t=2m03s)  :laugh2: 
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The extra wires there, you don't really need to worry about. They just need to be connected for it to operate correctly.

So don't worry about those wires, unless you actually want to make it work!


I know!! Isn't that magical.... lol  Does anyone know how to wire that thing up??
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 11, 2014, 11:29:07 am
Here is some motivation from my build:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133948.msg1380443.html#msg1380443 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133948.msg1380443.html#msg1380443)

Looks nice!!  Good work!
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: offset on July 11, 2014, 04:56:31 pm
This is awesome, I've always wondered how difficult it would be to use MAME for a driver, a lot of variables of input to MAME support I imagine.

I have a couple driving arcades (Sega Turbo, Sega Super Hang On, Atari Pole Position), but none with MAME.   Sega Outrun is on my list of games to buy, would buy a project cab as well if having it run with MAME is possible.
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 14, 2014, 09:14:55 am
well guys, got the cab sanded down, repaired in a few areas and painted this weekend!!  It was kind of a pain the balls but one more final coat of paint and it should be good.  I spent some time this weekend lurking driving cab builds on this site and I'm now seriously considering picking up a G27 and mounting it in this cab.  As far as I can tell, I should be able to just mount the G27 (unmodified) right to the cab (with existing control panel fully removed) and cut the existing control panel to fit around it and/or fabricate something (similar to what it appears gbeef did on his outrun sitdown cab).  I don't think I would need to extend the shaft. 

Amazon has the G27 for $225.00.  Do you think I should go for it?  I'm thinking I may be selling myself short if I don't do a FFB setup... thoughts??  Also, is the G27 compatible with most of the EMU software out there?  OI'm guessing yes since so many people are going to such lengths to make them work in their cabs...
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on July 15, 2014, 02:24:06 am
Got the Outrun cab painted.. Was able to make the huge hole for the coin door padlock thingy disappear..

(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140714_233235_t.jpg) (http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140714_233235.jpg)

(http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140714_233246_t.jpg) (http://vpforums.org/imghost/74/img_20140714_233246.jpg)


Wanting to hurry this cab up now as I think I may just mod a San Francisco Rush cab and get serious about it.  :)
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: shrunkenmaster on July 15, 2014, 01:00:11 pm
I used a U-HID Nano in my Power Drift cab as the boards were beyond help. Very easy to set up and works a treat!
Title: Re: Outrun stand-up cab project
Post by: hiljak on August 04, 2014, 05:31:19 pm
Some Daytona 2 action on the outrun cab. Still a major whip but fun :)

http://youtu.be/um2Hdt47IwI (http://youtu.be/um2Hdt47IwI)