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Title: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: allenhuffman on March 17, 2014, 03:45:52 pm
Does anyone know what the 5-pin connector is that attaches to the TurboTwist 2 spinner? The seller doesn't know what type of connector it is, and since we are trying to hook that spinner up to our own custom-programmed interface, we need to find a connector to plug up to it with.

Thanks...
Title: Re: TurobTwist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: PL1 on March 17, 2014, 05:11:21 pm
I believe the product you're looking for is the TT2 "slave" cable like in this pic.

(http://groovygamegear.com/Store_Images/TT2Basic300.jpg)

Since the product isn't listed for sale separately on the website, contact Randy at GGG (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/) for pricing/availability.


Scott
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: allenhuffman on March 18, 2014, 03:09:48 pm
Unfortunately, Randy does not know what the connector is either. I suppose if you owned one, and you broke the cable, your only option would be to buy the whole board over again.

I have Molex and some other supplies looking at photos trying to see if it's a part they have, otherwise I'm going to have to go with a different supplier since I am hooking the spinner up to my own interface and have to get one I can connect to it.

Thanks for the response.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: RandyT on March 18, 2014, 03:38:10 pm
Unfortunately, Randy does not know what the connector is either. I suppose if you owned one, and you broke the cable, your only option would be to buy the whole board over again.

Not that they break at all, but that wouldn't be the only option.  We have some cables in reserve for any such occurrences.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: allenhuffman on March 20, 2014, 10:16:14 am
Unfortunately, Randy does not know what the connector is either. I suppose if you owned one, and you broke the cable, your only option would be to buy the whole board over again.

Not that they break at all, but that wouldn't be the only option.  We have some cables in reserve for any such occurrences.

Thanks, Randy -- he ordered two cables from you (one to replace a broken one, actually, but it was from a second hand Turbo Twist). I am glad you have them now -- when we wrote you about this a few months ago, you didn't have them available separataely.

If anyone stubmles across this post, what we are working on is a TRON control panel recreation, including overlay stickers and the proper size/tilt/etc. Groovy Game Gear's TRON handle, along with recreated artwork from other sources, go a long way in to making TRON playable at home with the same feel as the arcade.

I am doing my own interface for the controls, using an Arduino/Teensy type device, so there will just be one cable coming out of the device -- no need for two (like TankStick), or internal hubs and a mess of wires... So far, so good. Plus, the ability to toggle it to send out iCade commands so you could use it with games on an iPad or something (but not for the TurboTwist -- iCade is digital only, no spinner type interface).

I expect we'll post photos when it's all done.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: welash on March 20, 2014, 06:04:23 pm
Not sure if this is the right connector or not, but it looks a lot like an AMP mini CT connector.  Digikey part number A100195-ND looks like the 5 pin.  Here is a link
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv88=24&FV=fff40018%2Cfff8009a%2C117c0008&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 (http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv88=24&FV=fff40018%2Cfff8009a%2C117c0008&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25)

It may be some other type of 1.5mm pitch connector though.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: RandyT on March 20, 2014, 11:44:00 pm
Not sure if this is the right connector or not, but it looks a lot like an AMP mini CT connector.  Digikey part number A100195-ND looks like the 5 pin.  Here is a link
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv88=24&FV=fff40018%2Cfff8009a%2C117c0008&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 (http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv88=24&FV=fff40018%2Cfff8009a%2C117c0008&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25)

It may be some other type of 1.5mm pitch connector though.

Similar, but too large.  It's 1.25mm pitch and there are no matching cables on Digikey.

Did some research and this would be my guess. (http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0510210500/WM1723-ND/242845)  It's just the housing, so you would need the terminals (http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0500798100/WM2023-ND/313482) and then either the snazzy $367 Molex crimper (http://www.newark.com/molex/63819-0400/ratcheting-hand-crimp-tool/dp/12P9133?CMP=KNC-GPLA), or the cheapie $47 plier type (http://www.amazon.com/Engineer-PA-09-Micro-Connector-Crimpers/dp/B002AVVO7K).
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: welash on March 21, 2014, 11:23:55 am
If that is it, this might be compatible http://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=643 (http://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=643)
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: nevinskima on March 21, 2014, 11:35:48 am
I've ordered some to try.  I'll let everyone know when they get here.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: RandyT on March 21, 2014, 11:50:43 am
If that is it, this might be compatible http://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=643 (http://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=643)

That looks like it has a very good shot at plugging right in.  A word of caution using a cable like that:  Don't assume the Red and Black are power and ground on third party cable assemblies.  The signals must be matched properly to the spinner inputs/outputs, or damage to the spinner will result.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: KonkeyKong on March 21, 2014, 12:59:29 pm
Randy-

Any diagrams of the spinner side pin-outs?  I've got a high-low model, but all the wires are white and attach to unmarked solder pads on the optiwiz.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: MonMotha on March 24, 2014, 08:52:23 pm
Sure looks like the Molex Picoblade (as Randy identified above) to me from the picture.  Be aware, if you do want to crimp something up yourself, that those things are really small and hard to crimp without either the "correct" tool or a suitable set of generic micro connector crimping pliers.  I use the PA-09 Randy linked on these with some success, but get extra contacts.  You absolutely will NOT be able to use the generic "D-Sub Crimper" that you can get at e.g. Radio Shack.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: nevinskima on April 17, 2014, 12:19:52 pm
The cables ordered from http://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=643 (http://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=643) work.  They're short, but they fit for anyone looking at options in the future.  Ordering from Randy works too.  You get them much faster and they have connectors on the end for easy hookup.  It's good to know there are options though.

Thanks everyone for your help with this project!

MikeN
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: kiwasabi on May 18, 2014, 07:41:41 am
Did you ever find any of these that had longer wires? The ones Randy provides with his spinners are ribbon cables and aren't ideal for wiring into anything but his proprietary boards.
Title: Re: Turbo Twist 2 - what is the 5-pin connector?
Post by: nevinskima on May 18, 2014, 09:02:51 am
The ribbon cable from Randy is great.  It's 20" long, and has the header that plugs into the TT2 on one end, and on the other end female terminals that you can either attach to pins on a board, or you can insert other wires into.  If you didn't want the terminals on there, you could cut them off and put them directly to a screw terminal or solder them to a board.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17913209/ribbon.jpg)

The other cables I got were short, slightly less than 6" in length.  They had the header that plugs directly into the TT2 on one end, and then were bare wires on the other.  These could be spliced if you needed additional length, or if your control board was close enough, you could attach direct. 

The TT2 only uses 4 of the 5 wires.  Randy colored one black, one red, and I'm assuming the other two are X +/-.  I haven't wired it up yet.  The other cable I got was just 5 colored wires, and I'd have to play around to figure out what was what.