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Title: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Hoopz on December 10, 2013, 06:58:33 pm
Time to dig out the null modem, spend an hour setting it up, and then start the gib fest.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: JoeB on December 10, 2013, 07:15:36 pm
Gee thanks!! You made a cold shiver go down my spine. I remember playing this game like it was yesterday!! @$;$;@( life passes by way too darn fast!!
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: mamenewb100 on December 10, 2013, 07:19:01 pm
You mean the 56K er.... 28.8K days of gaming? Like when you thought you killed someone only to find out a few seconds later that you were shooting at air and actually died 10 seconds ago from a lag spike? Those were the days of real skill. ;)
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: DaOld Man on December 10, 2013, 07:31:59 pm
Doom definitely did rock. Deathmatch mode was really fun.
If you haven't tried Serious Sam, you need to. I think it is leaps above Doom or Duke Nukem . (Of course it wont run on a DOS machine though.)
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Slippyblade on December 10, 2013, 07:38:48 pm
28.8... Wow, kids.

I actually downloaded the shareware release on a 1200 baud modem back in the day.  My god, that game was the most amazing thing EVER (at the time).  First piece of shareware I ever registered.  Buddy of mine was beta-testing a 28.8 modem for USR back then.  Thing was bigger than a modern day flatbed scanner.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: lilshawn on December 10, 2013, 07:44:41 pm
28.8... Wow, kids.

I actually downloaded the shareware release on a 1200 baud modem back in the day.  My god, that game was the most amazing thing EVER (at the time).  First piece of shareware I ever registered.  Buddy of mine was beta-testing a 28.8 modem for USR back then.  Thing was bigger than a modern day flatbed scanner.

yeah my first was 1200bps. hung on to that sucker forever. i think my next was 14.4... By then 56k was standard.  :badmood:

took forever compared to todays internet.

1999: should i download this 3 mb MP3?...it'll take 4 hours. but i really like this song though....

today: I'll just download the whole discography...not sure if i like the band or not.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: mamenewb100 on December 10, 2013, 08:05:49 pm
28.8... Wow, kids.

I actually downloaded the shareware release on a 1200 baud modem back in the day.  My god, that game was the most amazing thing EVER (at the time).  First piece of shareware I ever registered.  Buddy of mine was beta-testing a 28.8 modem for USR back then.  Thing was bigger than a modern day flatbed scanner.

I'm actually 32 years old but didn't try DOOM until 28K modems were pretty standard. Guess you could say I was not a hardcore DOOM or FPS player. So forgive my ignorant comment. ;P

Was a fun game for it's time and I know future games built on it's success but I liked Quake many times better.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Slippyblade on December 10, 2013, 08:17:31 pm
Well, Quake was the technological follow up to Doom and was done by the same people.  Doom broke barriers in so many ways.  It was truly revolutionary for its time.  Even if you didn't like the game due to content or play style, it's impossible to dismiss the leaps that Doom made for the industry as a whole.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: jasonbar on December 10, 2013, 08:29:48 pm
I win. Atari 830 was my first.

300 big fat bauds.

-Jason

PS--DOOM was my first network game played--used to play after work at my job in 93/94. So full of awesome.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Slippyblade on December 10, 2013, 08:37:52 pm
Me and all my friends were huge fans of the local dial-up BBS's at the time.  Most of us were on either 1200's or 2400's though I had ONE buddy that was still running 300.  He could type faster than that modem could move data, it was P-A-I-N-F-U-L to watch.  Tradewars 2002 took forever, he'd go so far as to shut off the ASCII graphics even.  :banghead:
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Hoopz on December 10, 2013, 08:38:28 pm
300 baud for C64 that fit into the cartridge slot.

Quake is great.  I remember downloading and playing in the Quake Test (the level the that came out before the demo) and being amazed.

But nothing prepared you for the monsters and demons in Doom when you could hear them before opening doors....
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: JDFan on December 10, 2013, 09:00:49 pm
Gee thanks!! You made a cold shiver go down my spine. I remember playing this game like it was yesterday!! @$;$;@( life passes by way too darn fast!!

Same here -- although it was yesterday that I was again playing it -- ChancKJ mentioned having problems getting old Dos games running on win 7 x64 in the software Forum and mentioned DOOM so had to break out D-fend Reloaded and make sure I had it working on it before posting in the thread so afterwards had to play a few hours !!
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: nordemoniac on December 11, 2013, 08:00:09 am
28.8... Wow, kids.

I actually downloaded the shareware release on a 1200 baud modem back in the day.  My god, that game was the most amazing thing EVER (at the time).  First piece of shareware I ever registered.  Buddy of mine was beta-testing a 28.8 modem for USR back then.  Thing was bigger than a modern day flatbed scanner.

Heh, I remember that. I was just a kid, and my friends dad got us shareware from the big US... It was like christmas every time!

Remember in the later years as well... Wacky wheels...
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: wp34 on December 11, 2013, 08:31:30 am
I win. Atari 830 was my first.

300 big fat bauds.

-Jason

PS--DOOM was my first network game played--used to play after work at my job in 93/94. So full of awesome.

Man I wanted one of those but by the time I bought my modem they had replaced it with the 1030 which was direct connect. I wanted to be like David Lightman AND the dumb thing clashed with my Atari 800.

Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Hoopz on December 11, 2013, 08:34:17 am
I read a brief interview with John Carmack yesterday and he discussed how he knew very little about networking and the protocol he put in the game didn't handle the traffic in the best way for the network.  He got a call from an admin in the middle of the night who was pissed as hell about the game on his network. 

How times have changed for Carmack....
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: wp34 on December 11, 2013, 10:20:14 am
Was Doom the one where you could blow up a urinal?  I seem to recall Doom or Duke Nukem let you do that.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: pbj on December 11, 2013, 10:24:40 am
Null modem cable?  Meh.

ATX1D for life.


Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: RoyalScam on December 11, 2013, 10:25:00 am
300 baud for C64 that fit into the cartridge slot.

User port ;)

Yeah, started with a VIC20 and VIC Modem at 300 baud for Compuserve via telnet. Eventually a C64 and a Westbridge 1200 baud running a BBS. EarlyPC days started with a generic 1200 baud Hayes Clone, someone will remember the ad, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it must be a duck...". After that it was USRobotics from 2400 baud up to 33.6 never made it to 56k before I got DSL.  DL'd doom at 2400 baud, waited in the FTP queue for Quake at 14.4, those were fun days.  Traded a lot of MST3K cd img files at 14.4, sometimes took days I loved every minute of it. Do I want to go back? NO! I adore the speed of my Cable Modem, but I will say, I was much pickier in what I DL'd in the past as in "was it worth the time and the dial up?".  Now I just seem to collect crap that I don't really want or need and  have to delete it every month.

Death match DOOM was the Best though!

Regards,
Scam
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Hoopz on December 11, 2013, 10:25:25 am
Was Doom the one where you could blow up a urinal?  I seem to recall Doom or Duke Nukem let you do that.
That was Duke Nukem.  Another classic.   :applaud:
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: PL1 on December 11, 2013, 12:00:12 pm
Was Doom the one where you could blow up a urinal?  I seem to recall Doom or Duke Nukem let you do that.
That was Duke Nukem.  Another classic.   :applaud:
IIRC Duke Nukem 3D, second level (Red Light District (http://dukenukem.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Light_District/Walkthrough)), was where the urinal gag first appeared in the franchise -- "Ah, much better!"   :lol

The original two games were fun, but Duke Nukem 3D was definitey a huge leap forward.

Duke Nukem (Original game)
(http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080105005304/dukenukem/images/b/b0/Dukenukem1.png)


Scott
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Hoopz on December 11, 2013, 12:01:37 pm
Yep, we both meant Duke Nukem 3D.   :cheers:
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: dgame on December 11, 2013, 12:30:28 pm
Null modem cable?  Meh.

ATX1D for life.

^^^
Rich kid. One null modem cable was cheaper than two real modems.  ;)
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Drnick on December 11, 2013, 12:39:33 pm
Where did all the time go.  Downloaded with a hayes 1200.  Then wired my house out with a bnc ring network for lan play.  Anyone else try looking at the side of the monitor to see what monsters were round the corner  :banghead: :banghead: 
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: pbj on December 11, 2013, 12:58:10 pm
Rich kid. One null modem cable was cheaper than two real modems.  ;)

Only had one modem.  Just had to drag the entire computer to a friend's house.  No lag, man! 

:-P

Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: roknrol on December 11, 2013, 05:14:35 pm
Anyone else try looking at the side of the monitor to see what monsters were round the corner.

Totally. And try to duck the fireballs from the imps.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: lilshawn on December 11, 2013, 07:03:12 pm
Rich kid. One null modem cable was cheaper than two real modems.  ;)

Only had one modem.  Just had to drag the entire computer to a friend's house.  No lag, man! 

:-P

damn right. it was way faster to disassemble the computer and drag it down to my friends house than it was to transfer 10 mb of shareware games like commander keen and doom between us at 9600 bps via modem.

that was before pkzip made it super easy to beak big files down to floppy size.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: ark_ader on December 11, 2013, 09:33:50 pm
Yep 1200/75 for online fun with my 25mhz 486 SLC and doom!
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: codemonkey76 on December 11, 2013, 09:38:41 pm
I remember going to a friends house who had a thing in his computer called a sound blaster, instead of beeps and buzzes he had real sound effects and Wolfenstein was the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---!!! (before doom)
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: PL1 on December 11, 2013, 10:24:12 pm
Doom LAN party at a friend of a friend's house.

Had to work that day so I showed up with my computer 10 hours after it started -- party still going strong.

12 systems on 2 LANs spread through the living room and dining room.

An hour later, someone loads up a modded deathmatch level with TONS of ammo/weapons to grab.

The mod changed the sound of picking up an item to Homer Simpson saying "Donuts".

"Do, do, don, donu, do, do, donuts, donuts, do, donuts. . . ."  Some of the guys were laughing too hard to play.   :laugh2:   :laugh2:   :laugh2:

It was a running joke for months.


Scott
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: ark_ader on December 12, 2013, 03:46:36 am
I remember going to a friends house who had a thing in his computer called a sound blaster, instead of beeps and buzzes he had real sound effects and Wolfenstein was the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---!!! (before doom)

Soundbaster was for XWing and TieFighter.  Endless nights of supreme tie fighter action.  :applaud:
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: Hoopz on December 12, 2013, 08:08:38 am
Downloading all the various Doom wads was so revolutionary.  And you're right Scott, the Simpsons mods were everywhere and  a lot were so well done.

Since someone mentioned Quake earlier, I still have fond memories of playing against the Reaper bot in DM4 for hours. Put 5 or 6 in and it was a fragfest.  I actually got that running sometime in the last year or so just to play it again.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: pbj on December 12, 2013, 09:54:58 am
Wolfenstein is probably the only game that's truly startled me.  Those damn guards yelling when you rounded a corner were nerve wracking.

I liked Doom but didn't really care for Doom 2 primarily because I don't believe anyone has ever beaten 2 without use of cheat codes.  I used to challenge people $20 that they couldn't do it and no one ever claimed the money.   ;D
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: ark_ader on December 12, 2013, 12:01:28 pm
I used to challenge people $20 that they couldn't do it and no one ever claimed the money.   ;D

Sounds familiar.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: lilshawn on December 12, 2013, 12:58:07 pm
Once I upgraded to the overclocked P2 @ 400mhz with the 512mb of  RAM I ditched Doom and graduated to Quake. That game was the bomb with OpenGL at 1280x1024  ;D
I ran that poor Rage Fury MAX into the ground with that game.
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: PL1 on December 12, 2013, 01:21:44 pm
Downloading all the various Doom wads was so revolutionary.
One of my favorites was the one that changed the Cacodemon into Bill Clinton's face spitting Tax/Spend.   :lol


Scott
Title: Re: 20 years ago - Doom!
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on December 12, 2013, 01:35:10 pm
Ha ha, I had a 300 baud modem on my C-64 too.  Was on BBS boards WAY before the internet became popular.  I even recall a buddy of mine playing TradeWars around that time too.   :lol

As for Doom, I recall a buddy of mine wanting to buy the more expensive 486 because he saw that my 386DX40 could only play DOOM in small Window.  (IIRC, the + and - buttons would make the full screen window bigger or smaller).

DeLuSioNaL29