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Title: P360 with Matrix
Post by: rdagger on November 20, 2003, 10:48:04 pm
I was reluctant to ask this question, because there are so many P360 how-to questions.  However, I searched through the posts and couldn't find the answers.

The perfect 360 is easy to connect to a keyboard encoder because there is a common ground.    However, how can you use a P360 with a keyboard matrix hack?  I saw this post that said this was possible, but they did not explain how.
http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=11433;start=msg88535#msg88535 (http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=11433;start=msg88535#msg88535)

Also I saw this other post that stated you can't use a P360 with gamepads.  Anyone know if a P360 could work with a Dual Strike hack?
http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=12787;start=msg99879#msg99879 (http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=12787;start=msg99879#msg99879)
Title: Re:P360 with Matrix
Post by: eightbit on November 20, 2003, 11:33:07 pm
I wouldn't think a p360 will work with a keyboard hack because it requires a ground and 5v power. You could message sirp though because he said it could work. A keyboard matrix doesn't have a ground per say.


Most gamepads have a 5v power source and if they use a common ground the p360 should work. Why would you use a p360 with a dual strike? Isn't the dual strike usually used for analog hacks?
Title: Re:P360 with Matrix
Post by: rdagger on November 21, 2003, 02:31:33 am
A dual strike has 13 buttons in addition to the 2 analog pots.  I plan on using 4 dual strikes (1 for gas/brake, 1 for yoke, 2 for recoil guns).  That's 52 buttons which would be enough for all my other controls.  The buttons work very much like a keyboard matrix.  Here is a modified schematic from 1up's site.  The up/left/down/right buttons on the dual strike are fired by shorting wires 12 to 9, 12 to10, 7 to 10 and 7 to 9 respectively.  I thought I could get by without a keyboard encoder.  Unfortunately, the P360's are a problem.  I was hoping there was a trick to making 'em compatible.
Title: Re:P360 with Matrix
Post by: rdagger on November 21, 2003, 02:40:31 am
Here's the schematic.  I believe it was created by 1up, but I don't know who modified it.
Title: Re:P360 with Matrix
Post by: paigeoliver on November 21, 2003, 02:45:59 am
Before you get to hacking, you might want to make sure that your Dual strikes are not going to change position every time you boot. That is a very common problem encountered when hacking more than one of the same joystick.
Title: Re:P360 with Matrix
Post by: rdagger on November 21, 2003, 07:48:41 pm
I guess the only way to hook up a P360 to a gamepad or a keyboard matrix is to use a low resistance analog switch.  It is a small 50 cent chip that acts like a relay.  

How do people who have more than 1 Dual Strike hack guarantee that the joystick number assignment won't be arbitrary?