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Title: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: shayvidas on October 15, 2013, 06:55:29 pm
hi,

regarding my last post (the people here were great ! and gave me all i needed to know)
i want to do a swich this one >

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARBON-FIBER-RED-LED-LIGHTED-TOGGLE-ROCKER-SWITCH-12V-20A-ON-OFF-Car-Truck-/321225934854?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aca8ec806&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARBON-FIBER-RED-LED-LIGHTED-TOGGLE-ROCKER-SWITCH-12V-20A-ON-OFF-Car-Truck-/321225934854?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aca8ec806&vxp=mtr)

that will turn the all my LED BUTTONS on and off,
the thing is i understood i will use my pc power source to run my lights which means i'll daisy chain all my LED's to my pc, on one side, and again daisy chain all my LED's to my pc on the other side, and put the swich
just after the last daisy chain before it connects to the pc right ?
that's all great but,

the thing is if i want to use, LED-Wiz™ 32-port, which i under stood can be wired in such way it gives 12V, then it means i'll have 14*2 individual wires running from my buttons to the board, where do i put the swich to turn them on and off then ?

i looked in this video >

Arcade Machine: Wiring LEDs to power supply (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_H5Zu83IJA#ws)

but he doesn't explains it there...

thanks for all the answers !!!!  :cheers:  this is a great FORUM !! :cheers:  :cheers:



ohh, and b.t.w.

did someone had any expiriance with these buttons ?
i'm about to order them (not from this seller though...), would be nice to get a second opinion about em...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-Arcade-LED-lights-push-button-Illuminated-Lighted-8-Liner-Cherry-Master-Mame-/190921830441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c73d3f029 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-Arcade-LED-lights-push-button-Illuminated-Lighted-8-Liner-Cherry-Master-Mame-/190921830441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c73d3f029)

Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: shayvidas on October 16, 2013, 03:14:21 pm
anyone ? pls ?
Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: blacketj on October 16, 2013, 05:07:11 pm
When using something like the LEDWiz you will still be daisy chaining either all the ground wires or all the power wires.  I haven't used that board so I'm not sure which.  So you'll have individual wires going out to all the LEDs, but you can have just one daisy chained all the way back.

So you could install the switch between the daisy chain and the LEDWiz board.  It won't matter if that is the power or the ground.
Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: wxforecaster on October 17, 2013, 01:46:27 am
Why do you want a switch to power on/off all your LEDs? Why not have them powered on with your computer, in which case an LEDWiz or similar controller works great. The 5V feed driving the LEDWiz comes from your computer's power supply. You turn the computer off (it's power button, power strip, etc...), the LEDs turn off.

If you still want a button as your go between (not sure why), then simply wire the switch between your 5V source and the LEDWiz controller. Assuming your 5V source is powered on, your switch will either complete that circuit or not, depending on its state.

If you purchase a button/switch with it's OWN LED, you have seperate tabs on the back of the switch. Some tabs control the switch itself, and the others the LED state. This LED will need to have a power source as well (and could also be your computer's power supply (5V or 12V depending on the LED and what its expected supply voltage)
Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: shayvidas on October 17, 2013, 08:10:07 am
Quote from: blacketj on October 16, 2013, 05:07:11 pm
When using something like the LEDWiz you will still be daisy chaining either all the ground wires or all the power wires.  I haven't used that board so I'm not sure which.  So you'll have individual wires going out to all the LEDs, but you can have just one daisy chained all the way back.

So you could install the switch between the daisy chain and the LEDWiz board.  It won't matter if that is the power or the ground.


thank you sooo much this was soo helpful !:)
Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: shayvidas on October 17, 2013, 08:28:57 am
Quote from: wxforecaster on October 17, 2013, 01:46:27 am
Why do you want a switch to power on/off all your LEDs? Why not have them powered on with your computer, in which case an LEDWiz or similar controller works great. The 5V feed driving the LEDWiz comes from your computer's power supply. You turn the computer off (it's power button, power strip, etc...), the LEDs turn off.

If you still want a button as your go between (not sure why), then simply wire the switch between your 5V source and the LEDWiz controller. Assuming your 5V source is powered on, your switch will either complete that circuit or not, depending on its state.

If you purchase a button/switch with it's OWN LED, you have seperate tabs on the back of the switch. Some tabs control the switch itself, and the others the LED state. This LED will need to have a power source as well (and could also be your computer's power supply (5V or 12V depending on the LED and what its expected supply voltage)


i originaly thought i will use a LEDWiz to have a cool animation to my led's when the computer starts, as it turns on.

but i understood this would be a little (more then a little complicated)

plus i didn't saw the LEDWiz can supply 12V and my led buttons are 12v.

i think i will just connect all my Led's to my PC, normally.
Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: DaOld Man on October 17, 2013, 10:20:30 am
Making the buttons animate with an ledwiz is not as hard as you think. You just have to learn to use the software that comes with it (or maybe downloaded form GGG site.)
The newer ledwiz with the small chip can switch 12 volts. I don't think the older one will.
Here is a link to ggg site. It has pdf files you can download for the newer or the older ledwiz.

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=239&zenid=iafttl9pvhdnro15hs8ldve6v5 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=239&zenid=iafttl9pvhdnro15hs8ldve6v5)
Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: shayvidas on October 17, 2013, 11:33:26 am
Quote from: DaOld Man on October 17, 2013, 10:20:30 am
Making the buttons animate with an ledwiz is not as hard as you think. You just have to learn to use the software that comes with it (or maybe downloaded form GGG site.)
The newer ledwiz with the small chip can switch 12 volts. I don't think the older one will.
Here is a link to ggg site. It has pdf files you can download for the newer or the older ledwiz.

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=239&zenid=iafttl9pvhdnro15hs8ldve6v5 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=239&zenid=iafttl9pvhdnro15hs8ldve6v5)

it's not just making the animation
it's making it and doing it as the computer starts
Title: Re: hi, question about LED swich
Post by: DaOld Man on October 17, 2013, 10:16:34 pm
Mala can run a routine when starting. Maybe the LEDWiz software can too? I cant remember now.