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Title: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 03:51:49 pm
I was searching Kijiji for local arcade cabinet deals, and came across this (http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-video-games-consoles-other-Custom-Arcade-Cabinet-W0QQAdIdZ528751004). Is this the cabinet that the newer user here posted, that got panned by everybody for looking too much like furniture? (I'm only asking, because I couldn't find the original thread to compare.)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFg3NDY=/z/pOUAAOxySy9SSaCb/$(KGrHqJ,!qIFI6Yj,HdPBSS,CbYU1g~~48_20.JPG)

But... $2100 for a computer and a Tankstick cabinet... Wow.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: chopperthedog on October 04, 2013, 04:03:48 pm
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,132007.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,132007.0.html)

enjoy.


good day.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 04:09:39 pm
Annnnnnd, they match. Damn.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: JDFan on October 04, 2013, 04:12:39 pm
Annnnnnd, they match. Damn.

Yes they do -- and according to his follow up post HERE ( http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134313.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134313.0.html) ) It sold so I guess he is now trying to make a business out of it (or he's listing an item he supposedly already sold !)
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 04:14:13 pm
Yes they do -- and according to his follow up post HERE ( http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134313.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134313.0.html) ) It sold so I guess he is now trying to make a business out of it (or he's listing an item he supposedly already sold !)

He does have a website, and it looks like he's building and selling them out of his home. (Hey, like I do!) It MUST be popular though! He's got SEVEN testimonials!!!
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: JDFan on October 04, 2013, 04:15:40 pm
Yes they do -- and according to his follow up post HERE ( http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134313.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134313.0.html) ) It sold so I guess he is now trying to make a business out of it (or he's listing an item he supposedly already sold !)

He does have a website, and it looks like he's building and selling them out of his home. (Hey, like I do!) It MUST be popular though! He's got SEVEN testimonials!!!

And of the SEVEN two actually say the thing is built like a "Tank"  :laugh2:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Generic Eric on October 04, 2013, 04:27:47 pm
I just went there.  www.mancavearcade.webs.com (http://www.mancavearcade.webs.com)   
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Malenko on October 04, 2013, 04:40:11 pm
wow, a DOUBLE Xarcade setup?
(http://d2bm3ljpacyxu8.cloudfront.net/width/284/crop/0,0,284x212/mancavearcade.webs.com/4player5.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 04:42:41 pm
wow, a DOUBLE Xarcade setup?

Careful there! I'm sure that's a one-of-a-kind, irreplaceable prototype!
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CaptainMarvel on October 04, 2013, 04:54:34 pm
Well, more power to the guy for making money off of his "design" ...

For me personally, it looks rather simplistic for the cost. 
Wondering what his cost/profit margin is.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: yotsuya on October 04, 2013, 05:12:54 pm
I'm sorry- I thought it was ugly then, and I think it's still ugly now. Functional, yes. Ass-looking, yes.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Vigo on October 04, 2013, 05:25:20 pm
I can't even say for sure if all his designs are functional even.

(http://d2bm3ljpacyxu8.cloudfront.net/width/208/crop/0,0,208x278/mancavearcade.webs.com/photo%202(1).JPG)

He labels this one as virtual pin. My gut tells that it might be missing at least one part.

Oh, and funny how all his testimonials are fans of the double exclamation point!!
Title: Re: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: yotsuya on October 04, 2013, 05:30:36 pm
I can't even say for sure if all his designs are functional even.

(http://d2bm3ljpacyxu8.cloudfront.net/width/208/crop/0,0,208x278/mancavearcade.webs.com/photo%202(1).JPG)

He labels this one as virtual pin. My gut tells that it might be missing at least one part.

HAHAHA!!!!! C'mon, man!
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: thatpurplestuff on October 04, 2013, 05:47:45 pm
I'm not one to normally pile on, but those testimonials are so obviously written by the same person it's ridiculous. 

"Ecstatic praise!!  Followed by description of ease of setup... and built like a tank!!"
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 06:01:19 pm
In all honesty, I went looking at the local Kijiji for people who may be my competition, and all I could find were $1750 tabletops and this $2100 ... armoire? It would seem this guy is about 15 minutes from my place, and trying his hand selling into the GTA market.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CoryBee on October 04, 2013, 06:11:55 pm
Holy crap, I wasn't going to touch this one but that dual arcade tankstick for a 4 player setup really grinds my gears.....

I consider most of us Artists of a special type. It is not all easy to make a quality product. To be so lazy about it though....I mean come on.

Also, there are obviously some who are more like "Monet" and "Gogh" than others but it still hold true.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 06:20:53 pm
Holy crap, I wasn't going to touch this one but that dual arcade tankstick for a 4 player setup really grinds my gears.....

My biggest beef is that you have people overvaluing their work, and trying to pass off inferior products and saturating the marketplace with expensive, overpriced junk. It does nothing to promote the craft; it only serves to try and profit from people who may not know better.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: yotsuya on October 04, 2013, 06:24:12 pm
Check THIS out (posted on KLOV but I HAD to share):

http://orlando.craigslist.org/vgm/4104706707.html (http://orlando.craigslist.org/vgm/4104706707.html)
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 06:31:29 pm
Check THIS out (posted on KLOV but I HAD to share)

You, sir, owe me a new keyboard. What. The. Hell is that? Kermit the Frog on crack?
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CoryBee on October 04, 2013, 06:46:46 pm
Holy crapshoot.....
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: BadMouth on October 04, 2013, 07:30:09 pm
Check THIS out (posted on KLOV but I HAD to share):

http://orlando.craigslist.org/vgm/4104706707.html (http://orlando.craigslist.org/vgm/4104706707.html)


Past epic fail threads have taught me to always attach the pics before they are lost.

Greats like Punchout and Star Wars Pachinko have been lost.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: SavannahLion on October 04, 2013, 07:34:15 pm
I was going to step in and defend the coin doors at least. Then I realized the bits at the top aren't etched.

I dunno... maybe the boards and internals might be worth $400... maybe....
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 04, 2013, 07:35:27 pm
Past epic fail threads have taught me to always attach the pics before they are lost.

Am I doing this right?

Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: BadMouth on October 04, 2013, 07:38:48 pm
Past epic fail threads have taught me to always attach the pics before they are lost.

Am I doing this right?

I don't think that cab is an epic fail.  His construction quality is probably better than mine.
If someone wants to pay him 2 grand for it (without software), then good for him.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Malenko on October 04, 2013, 07:50:24 pm
I don't think that cab is an epic fail.
Did you see the double X arcade one?
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: yotsuya on October 04, 2013, 08:20:08 pm
The issue isn't the craftsmanship, its the execution of the idea. That four player machine needs FAA clearance to be delivered.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: DaOld Man on October 04, 2013, 08:21:34 pm
Kinda looks like cheap cabinets you can buy at Walmart, painted and modified to fit the CP and Monitor.
Now why didn't I think of that?
Actually I did, but I figured it would look like horse droppings. Was I right?
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: BadMouth on October 04, 2013, 08:30:05 pm
I don't think that cab is an epic fail.
Did you see the double X arcade one?

 :lol

Yeah, that one is pretty bad, but it almost had to be a customer request.

Personally, I think it looks like something that would sell well for $300-$350 flatpacked and assembled like ikea furniture.
Tons of people have asked for that.

I think the biggest shortcomings are these:

He's using the USB connector instead of PS2 on the x-arcade which means that there is a limit of 6 simultaneous inputs including directions.  I'm sure this is the case since he says a USB keyboard is included and the x-arcade requires a PS2 keyboard to be plugged in for the PS2 output to work.  If it had a PS2 keyboard connected, he wouldn't be including a wired USB one.

He's using Maximus Arcade - front end of noobs.

These two things make me think that he's someone who doesn't really know much about this stuff, but got their own rig running with an x-arcade and thought "Hey, I could make money off this!"

I have a friend who had that reaction to my first setup.  He thought we would throw a cheap computer in every old cab we could get our hands on and put it up on ebay "with thousands of games included!"  It took a while for it to sink in that it would be like selling a jukebox with thousands of bootleg songs downloaded off the internet.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: JDFan on October 04, 2013, 10:14:09 pm
He's using Maximus Arcade - front end of noobs.

Hey now that's a bit harsh -- I kind of like MA ! :dunno
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Malenko on October 04, 2013, 10:16:45 pm
He's using Maximus Arcade - front end of noobs.

Hey now that's a bit harsh -- I kind of like MA ! :dunno
NOOB
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: JDFan on October 04, 2013, 10:21:27 pm
He's using Maximus Arcade - front end of noobs.

Hey now that's a bit harsh -- I kind of like MA ! :dunno
NOOB

 :laugh2: :laugh2:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: paigeoliver on October 04, 2013, 11:32:49 pm
The real pros just use mame32 / whatever they call it now and only install front ends on other people's machines.

 >:D
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Martijn on October 05, 2013, 01:54:37 pm
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qgBkUxQZWEs/UlBSPpqCS5I/AAAAAAAAEvg/Ckf8mU3ue20/s720/chai.jpg)

 :cheers: :laugh2:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: rpgposer on October 07, 2013, 08:34:01 am
All I know is that the builder came here for advice, called me an old man and didn't follow any the experienced advice which was offered.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: lcmgadgets on October 07, 2013, 10:06:30 am
....yuck....& he's still accomplished more than me.

As for the Ninja Turtles cab, that made my eyes bleed. The raw audaciousness of that colour scheme though--I gotta say, at least the artist had balls.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: stigzler on October 07, 2013, 02:02:57 pm
This whole affair has been hilarious. In many ways.

Now, where's my 80's Easy-Assemble Black Ash TV+Betamax unit?

Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Vigo on October 07, 2013, 02:56:15 pm
WTF is up with putting giant eye balls on top of a cab?  :laugh2:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CoryBee on October 07, 2013, 03:26:26 pm
WTF is up with putting giant eye balls on top of a cab?  :laugh2:

That's RACIST!!
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: rCadeGaming on October 07, 2013, 05:35:51 pm
(http://d2bm3ljpacyxu8.cloudfront.net/width/284/crop/0,0,284x212/mancavearcade.webs.com/4player5.jpg)

 :laugh2:

I was going to say "call up CrapMAME!  We have a new winner!!" (double exclamation points add meaning)

...but then I saw the "pinball" cab and the TMNT...

Thread of the year.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: zanna5910 on October 08, 2013, 01:07:16 pm
Hey, to each their own.  Hopefully he is making the cabinet parts, and not trying to resell modified store furniture, that may be a copyright issue.  I, personally, wouldn't want a cabinet sticking 18-24" off the wall due to that lean back, on top of other things.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: SavannahLion on October 08, 2013, 01:18:43 pm
given how the furniture looks, I wouldn't think the company would even care.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: matt4949 on October 08, 2013, 05:50:41 pm
I found this over in the project section.
http://retro-replay.com/my-arcade-cabinet/ (http://retro-replay.com/my-arcade-cabinet/)
Someone is buying them and enjoying them.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Malenko on October 08, 2013, 05:52:28 pm
total is a grand including a free computer?  :'(
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: kahlid74 on October 08, 2013, 07:27:32 pm
I'm a huge proponent of "to each their own" but wow, just wow.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: yotsuya on October 08, 2013, 07:33:22 pm
If this were a teenager taking a stab at his first cab, or a single dad building something for his kids out of existing parts and this is what they came up with, I think I'd feel differently (and I think some of you would agree). But this is a vendor charging a lot of money for what is really an uninspired plug and play package setup.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: paigeoliver on October 08, 2013, 07:54:24 pm
So the original poster who claimed to have designed this POS was really just trying to resell another companies cabinet kit. He didn't even build it.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: rCadeGaming on October 08, 2013, 07:55:40 pm
The dude does not abide this.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: zanna5910 on October 08, 2013, 09:25:54 pm
So the original poster who claimed to have designed this POS was really just trying to resell another companies cabinet kit. He didn't even build it.

Its a definite ripoff, maybe the same, but the stand looks different to me.   Its like a more expensive than the original clone. :dizzy:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: rpgposer on October 09, 2013, 08:18:42 am
Looks like a recroom masters clone to me.  Do we have to go any further down this rabbit hole?  It's depressing...
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CoryBee on October 09, 2013, 08:30:06 am
Looks like a recroom masters clone to me.  Do we have to go any further down this rabbit hole?  It's depressing...

Had to google that one....and....what!

People actually buy something that looks like this?? ?? ?

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/3yrpn.4qr39/v/vspfiles/photos/RM-XT-SD-F-2T.jpg?1366900315)

And this 4-Player set-up?!

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/3yrpn.4qr39/v/vspfiles/photos/RM-XT-PED-4P-2T.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/leagueoflegends/images/9/91/ColdShowers_Wat.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: rpgposer on October 09, 2013, 08:44:17 am
Time for a zanax...  I blame it on Cory.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CoryBee on October 09, 2013, 09:09:53 am
Time for a zanax...  I blame it on Cory.

Haha, what did I do?
Title: Re: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 09, 2013, 09:17:01 am
Haha, what did I do?

The dude credits YOU for inspiring his cabinets all over his website!
Title: Re: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CoryBee on October 09, 2013, 10:14:04 am
Haha, what did I do?

The dude credits YOU for inspiring his cabinets all over his website!

HAHA, ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---......wait, you aren't serious?
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: CoryBee on October 09, 2013, 10:16:14 am
Damn it Rick! Making me look through the site again for no reason!

 :angry:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Malenko on October 09, 2013, 10:23:36 am
Damn it Rick! Making me look through the site again for no reason!

 :angry:

he got me too! I was gonna make fun of you for it, now he gets to make fun of us for being gullible  :hissy:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 09, 2013, 11:20:34 am
Damn it Rick! Making me look through the site again for no reason!

he got me too! I was gonna make fun of you for it, now he gets to make fun of us for being gullible

Oh, I would never do that.

:D
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: rpgposer on October 09, 2013, 11:22:17 am
Time for a zanax...  I blame it on Cory.

Haha, what did I do?
You went further down the rabbit hole.  What I find depressing is that I spent years lurking here being quiet and polite, eventually finding a cab (which I appreciate), yet some money hungry punk makes a clone of a pseudo-viewlix style cab with crappy controls comes here and gets rude after asking for advice from some very experienced people.
Then actually sells the thing for a couple of grand...
*pops another zanax.
I guess my skin needs some thickening.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: Rick on October 09, 2013, 11:29:02 am
Then actually sells the thing for a couple of grand...

I don't think there's actually any proof of that, unless I missed something along the way. I certainly don't believe for a second that any of his "testimonials" are real.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: rpgposer on October 09, 2013, 11:47:00 am
Then actually sells the thing for a couple of grand...

I don't think there's actually any proof of that, unless I missed something along the way. I certainly don't believe for a second that any of his "testimonials" are real.
Yeah, I think I agree.
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: dmb062082 on October 11, 2013, 11:09:54 am
I found this over in the project section.
http://retro-replay.com/my-arcade-cabinet/ (http://retro-replay.com/my-arcade-cabinet/)
Someone is buying them and enjoying them.

HEY! Thats my project! Or... my furniture as you guys say. I love the thing. And I was up and running in a day. Maybe down the road I can restore something but I just dont have the time... family and 2 jobs will do that to you. It looks decent and its solid. Also  I'm not selling anything. The review is up so I might as well affiliate.  I'm just proving a point that anyone can put one of these together and in turn I hope more people learn about emulation in the process. Ive been a fan of this scene since 1999! In return  I am pushing them to beginners and helping the scene absolutely grow in the process. Like to think that is something good that I am doing for this community! Maybe you guys see it differently. Best of luck guys.  Ive updated some of the artwork since that article and I have the cabinet where I want it, and I think it looks pretty good! I guess my opinion is really all that matters anyway. Ill post a few pics when its done for the hell of it.

-David
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: yotsuya on October 11, 2013, 11:25:40 am
No worries, David- the comments are actually aimed at the guy who made a cheap copy of the design and is trying to pass the off for way more. If your project gets your little ones into classic gaming, more power to you!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Is this ... ? Isn't that ... ??? What is this I don't even.
Post by: dmb062082 on October 11, 2013, 11:33:46 am
No worries, David- the comments are actually aimed at the guy who made a cheap copy of the design and is trying to pass the off for way more. If your project gets your little ones into classic gaming, more power to you!  :cheers:

Ahh thanks. I should have read the beginning of the thread. Traffic tracking brought me to the 2nd page. =) Have a good day guys, the hell with the scammers!