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Title: Glue vs Screws
Post by: Richardgregory on September 03, 2013, 03:36:08 pm
I can imagine that this has been asked a billion times over, but can a newbie ask again? ;)  So I figure I'll use glue instead of screws to mount the furring strips on the inside panel.  Glue can be that strong to hold the weight of an LCD that will be mounted on a frame attached to the furring strips? 

Just checking...

Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: GoYouSalukis on September 03, 2013, 03:50:59 pm
 What is the material? MDF, plywood, or particle board?

I recommend you use glue AND screws for two reasons.

1. Glue is strong, but screws provide a mechanical connection.
2. The screws help provide good clamping pressure while the glue drys.

The material is important, because MDF for example does not take screws well, or if you try to glue melamine coated particle board, it might not bond well.
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: Maximus on September 03, 2013, 03:57:05 pm
I recommend you use glue AND screws for two reasons.

1. Glue is strong, but screws provide a mechanical connection.
2. The screws help provide good clamping pressure while the glue drys.

^^^^^This
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: paigeoliver on September 03, 2013, 06:01:51 pm
I always glue and screw.
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: gamepimp on September 03, 2013, 06:22:01 pm
I always glue and screw.

For some reason that just sounds "naughty". Lol!
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: konp on September 03, 2013, 09:16:06 pm
Por que no los dos?

(http://members.iinet.net.au/~jez/junk/Why%20not%20both.jpg)
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: Maximus on September 04, 2013, 11:55:16 am
I always glue and screw.

For some reason that just sounds "naughty". Lol!

Should be screw then glue
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: zanna5910 on September 04, 2013, 11:58:14 am
I fear we've taken a turn for the worse...
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: mcseforsale on September 04, 2013, 12:16:04 pm
Glue will actually set up stronger than the wood that you're gluing (especially Gorilla glue).  But with MDF, I'd use both.  Use the screws to do the layout and build up.  Then, glue and use the screws to hold it all together while the glue dries.

AJ
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: JoeB on September 06, 2013, 11:48:54 pm
Why not go with construction adhesive? ;)

Glue will always be stronger than screws. Think the hand rails in your house. They're all glued. And they have to be safe to take the weight of a person.
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: stringbender on September 07, 2013, 09:46:29 am
definitely use both..
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: CoryBee on September 07, 2013, 09:57:24 am
definitely use both..

Yepp Yepp

I use both, then when the glue dries sometimes I reclaim my screws. Screws tend to work much better than clamps to hold everything down tight.
Title: Re: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: ppv on September 07, 2013, 06:57:29 pm
definitely use both..

Yepp Yepp

I use both, then when the glue dries sometimes I reclaim my screws. Screws tend to work much better than clamps to hold everything down tight.
i'll take that advice! Thanks!
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: ark_ader on September 07, 2013, 07:12:29 pm
Obviously I am going to be difficult and say glue and dowels.

Screws for the base but the rest can be glued if there isn't and load bearing supports, but you can reinforce those like a monitor cage or internal frame.

Screws is for novices.

Experts use glue and dowels, and lots of clamps with patience.
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: yotsuya on September 08, 2013, 02:14:39 am
I use both, then when the glue dries sometimes I reclaim my screws.

You are, by far, the cheapest son of a ---smurfette--- I know.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: CoryBee on September 08, 2013, 02:40:05 am
I use both, then when the glue dries sometimes I reclaim my screws.

You are, by far, the cheapest son of a ---smurfette--- I know.  :cheers:

(http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Scrooge.jpg)


Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: Hockeyboy on September 08, 2013, 08:02:08 am
I've been doing glue AND screws on my cab -- I can't imagine doing just one or ther other. You don't want this thing falling apart as you are yanking on the joysticks and pounding the buttons. And I have to admit I  :laugh2: when I saw this:

I use both, then when the glue dries sometimes I reclaim my screws.

You are, by far, the cheapest son of a ---smurfette--- I know.  :cheers:

(http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Scrooge.jpg)
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: boomerbrian on September 08, 2013, 09:54:43 am
Pocket screws and glue for me. Makes for a super strong joint and is very clean. You can even buy wood plugs if for some reason you drilled your pocket holes in a visible area.
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: Garza on September 09, 2013, 02:55:25 pm
Kinda late but Both the glue is strong and the screws hold it together until the glue dries....
Title: Re: Glue vs Screws
Post by: Vigo on September 09, 2013, 03:37:33 pm
Why not go with construction adhesive? ;)

Glue will always be stronger than screws. Think the hand rails in your house. They're all glued. And they have to be safe to take the weight of a person.

Well, hand rails use finger joints, are made from real timber and joined with high pressure machinery. There are also enough point of support from the newel post and balusters that it really doesn't need to bear much of a load at all. Not making a case that glue is weak, but I don't think that there is an even comparison between a railing and a furring strip glued to the side of a sheet of wood.. A few years of warping, bending and temp changes, and I wouldn't be surprised to see glue give way here and there on furring. Especially if the wood was not great quality and did not sit completely flush to begin with.

Title: Glue vs Screws
Post by: kahlid74 on September 09, 2013, 04:58:18 pm
It's already been said but I would use both.  The screws are really there to pull the parts together and the reaction the glue has is stronger than the wood.  Together it should be strong enough to last the test of time.