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Title: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: Sionsays on June 18, 2013, 07:53:00 am
Has anyone done this? I'm thinking about building my cabinet to play games like bio shock , borderlands etc,,. What is the best joystick I can use to aim to make this work? Looking for mostly usb if possible. Right now I have the u360 and. 6 button per player setup
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: Malenko on June 18, 2013, 08:20:07 am
a flat piece of wood on your control panel to sit your keyboard and mouse on?
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: BadMouth on June 18, 2013, 09:16:52 am
Gun Survivor 2 controls interfaced via U-HID.

(http://pineconeattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/100_1647.jpg)

http://youtu.be/Gx-AhvxiWLA?t=2m (http://youtu.be/Gx-AhvxiWLA?t=2m)
(jump 2 minutes for the controls demo)

Not sure if it would cover all movement and most definitely wouldn't work as well as a keyboard and mouse, but it would be kinda cool.

At a very minimum, you'd need dual analog trigger sticks.
Hmmm.....I just finished a dual analog trigger stick panel.....
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: 404 on June 18, 2013, 09:40:40 am
trackball and trigger stick?  ???
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: Malenko on June 18, 2013, 09:43:28 am
trackball and trigger stick?  ???

Thats how Midway did "The Grid"

(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/108/1080685611.jpg)
EDIT: added image
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: BadMouth on June 18, 2013, 09:47:44 am
trackball and trigger stick?  ???

Y u got to put ideas in my head?
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: Sionsays on June 18, 2013, 11:01:38 am
Wouldn't a basic flight joystick with a button work?
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: PL1 on June 18, 2013, 11:11:31 am
Wouldn't a basic flight joystick with a button work?

Are you talking about an analog stick or 8-way?

People refer to both as "flight sticks".


Scott
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: Sionsays on June 18, 2013, 11:21:35 am
Probably need an 8 way for more
Modern shooters,, would it work??
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: BadMouth on June 18, 2013, 11:42:05 am
Probably need an 8 way for more
Modern shooters,, would it work??

An 8-way consists of digital on/off switches.  You cannot hold your aim with that.
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: 404 on June 18, 2013, 12:14:32 pm

Y u got to put ideas in my head?

LOL!

Probably need an 8 way for more
Modern shooters,, would it work??

An 8-way consists of digital on/off switches.  You cannot hold your aim with that.


You can get away with using a standard joystick by using a programmable keyboard encoder and setting the up a standard keyboard repeat function. You should be able to easily do this with a Kade encoder.

Perhaps you can even configure left and right turning views using a rotary stick.  ???
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: vorghagen on June 18, 2013, 08:08:59 pm
Perhaps you can even configure left and right turning views using a rotary stick.  ???

This idea has been used before in a standalone PC joystick. The Logitech Wingman Warrior.
Released early 90s. Connected via gameport (9 or 15 pin D-sub). It only worked with a couple of supported games games. Took a bit of getting used to but was surprisingly good once you got the hang of it.
Overall, a little bit better than keyboard only control and miles behind keyboard + mouse.
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: shponglefan on June 18, 2013, 09:29:50 pm
a flat piece of wood on your control panel to sit your keyboard and mouse on?

+1

Not sure why someone would want to use unoptimal controls for FPS games...  ???

That said, I would think maybe a WSAD style keyboard layout using mini-arcade buttons + a wireless mouse would get the job done.  Or buttons + trackball if you want something built into the CP and more "arcadey".
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: Fursphere on June 18, 2013, 09:43:06 pm
I play DOOM on my driving cabinet.  Does that count?  :D
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: keilmillerjr on June 18, 2013, 11:44:18 pm
Why would you want to play a non-arcade game on an arcade machine? Standing for a long time with only one person playing a long story line doesn't sound fun. That's why most newer console games are played usually while sitting on a couch with no friends.
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: paigeoliver on June 19, 2013, 12:29:13 am
Most of your modern shooters have absolutely brutal button number requirements and are essentially untranslatable to arcade controls.

When I play Borderlands my right hand aims and controls 8 mouse functions/buttons (5 buttons, scroll up, scroll down and scroll click), while my left hand handles a Belkin n52te single handed gaming keyboard with 16 buttons, a clickable scroll wheel and a direction hat and I have all of those mapped to game stuff.
Title: Re: Playing modern shooters on cabinet
Post by: Cynicaster on June 19, 2013, 01:46:51 pm
Why would you want to play a non-arcade game on an arcade machine? Standing for a long time with only one person playing a long story line doesn't sound fun. That's why most newer console games are played usually while sitting on a couch with no friends.

I mostly agree with your statement, but I'd kill for a dedicated cabinet that plays this:

Super Stardust HD (PS3): 5 Minutes of Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhhocl7jf3o#)