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Title: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: shponglefan on April 22, 2013, 12:28:27 am
Awhile back I ordered a pair of J-Stiks from Ultimarc (each version).  My original understanding was that they were modelled after the Sanwa JLW-UM-8 and JLW-TM-8, respectively.  But I thought they were replicas, not originals.

Looking at the actual joysticks, I noticed they have the "Sanwa" name embossed in the various parts.  I realize that in itself doesn't prove anything, but are these legit Sanwa sticks?
Title: Re: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: sandheaver on April 22, 2013, 07:49:10 am
http://ultimarc.com/controls.html (http://ultimarc.com/controls.html)

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J-Stik (Japanese) Ball-Top (Sanwa JLW-TM-8 type)

It says right there on their page. 
Title: Re: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: shponglefan on April 22, 2013, 08:43:11 am
http://ultimarc.com/controls.html (http://ultimarc.com/controls.html)

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J-Stik (Japanese) Ball-Top (Sanwa JLW-TM-8 type)

It says right there on their page.

That doesn't mean it's a real Sanwa.  The reason I didn't think they were real Sanwa's is a) Ultimarc uses "J-Stik" as its term for them, and b) the use of the word "type" after the model, suggesting it could have been modeled after the Sanwa's.

I've also read that the JLW-TM-8 is not manufactured any more.  This could be just unfounded rumor, but when I ordered them in the first place, I wasn't necessarily expecting real Sanwa's.
Title: Re: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: kowal on April 22, 2013, 10:03:29 am
JLW tm-8 have 2 ver one for Japan (production is over) sellers and US/Euro (aka j-stick)

US - harder spring and longer shaft, different micro, different hub modelling for SPDT microswitch

J-stick is still original
Title: Re: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: surface tension on April 22, 2013, 02:52:21 pm
I've just picked up a couple of 360s and yes, they are modified Sanwas.

http://ultimarc.com/controls.html (http://ultimarc.com/controls.html)

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J-Stik (Japanese) Ball-Top (Sanwa JLW-TM-8 type)

It says right there on their page. 

You're talking about the J-Stik here, not the 360. The J-Stik used to be modelled on the Sanwa JLW, but it is now the real deal.

Edit: Just noticed this was never about 360! I think I have them on the brain right now. Sorry sandheaver.
Title: Re: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: shponglefan on April 22, 2013, 11:17:37 pm
The J-Stik used to be modelled on the Sanwa JLW, but it is now the real deal.

Curious, that's usually the opposite of how things go.   :lol

At any rate, I'm happy if they are the real thing.  I wasn't actually expecting real Sanwa's based on my prior information, so if anything this is a nice surprise; although not there would necessarily be any functional difference anyway...
Title: Re: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: AndyWarne on April 25, 2013, 04:39:47 am
Yes the J-Stik, Ultrastik 360 and ServoStik are all based on real Sanwa sticks.

Andy
Title: Re: Ultimarc's J-Stiks: are they real Sanwa's?
Post by: retrostark on April 25, 2013, 06:39:07 am
yes. do a little research and you will find out. they are sanwa.