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Main => Buy/Sell/Trade - non-retail => Topic started by: rablack97 on March 04, 2013, 09:23:37 pm
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I am working with a guy who has a surplus of this stuff he's trying to get rid of. He is looking at shipping rates w/i the U.S. only at this time.
$20.00 a sheet with a deeper discount for requests of 5 sheets or more.....
If your near Sacramento, California he offers local Pick-up. I hope to give him incentive to ship, as this stuff is gold to us builders on the forum...
I will post more as I found out, just wanted to see if there is any interest.....
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I'd snag at least 1.
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I need one for the sides of my sega model 3 cab
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id buy 3 sheets if he would ship to Australia.
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Curious on the shipping costs. 20 bucks a sheet is a real steal!
Let us know when you find out.
I'm in NJ.
:cheers:
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Suppose to find out tomorrow, I'm following up....will let everyone know then
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Curious about shipping costs, I live in Austin, TX. Also about how it gets shipped? I assume they role it up? Maybe boxed? Let us know.
Thanks
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Yes it will be rolled, and he said its pretty light...
I'm curious about shipping as well, cabinetparts.com ships 5 pieces out for about 50.00 in box....
I got mixed quotes, based on the sizes and weight, he was gonna take 5 pieces, roll it up and and wrap in cardboard and take to USPS and see what they quoted him.
The girth should be about 15" and the length no longer than about 50".....
So hopefully the quote is reasonable....
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Any idea what brand it is?
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I like this idea better than vinyl or malamine with crap particle board in the middle.
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The code on the back is
2969660090 c958 NSF35 FORMICA V0744 S1 made in Canada.
One thing I found out is NSF35 means it's food prep certified, so it must be pretty durable...
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Curious on the shipping costs. 20 bucks a sheet is a real steal!
Let us know when you find out.
I'm in NJ.
:cheers:
I bought full sheets for $14 from brooklyn years ago. multiple times. they have like hundred different patterns/color. it was somewhere in downtown brooklyn. took the G train there. you can try google searching. but I cant remember the name or location at all.
(sorry little off topic)
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Ok folks here's the deal.....
I'm in Texas, and he's shipping me out 5 sheets for 150.00, that's a hell of a deal...the shipping may vary for each receiving state but not much.
UPS quotes $30.00 (varies slighty per receiving state) for 1 sheet plus $10-15 for each additional sheet.
So for the onesy twosey orders his price is 30.00 a sheet plus shipping. Still at 60.00 shipped your below retail...
The best deal is the 5 sheets i think, in this hobby you can always use some laminate....
PM me for his contact info, if your serious about an order....
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His shipping seems very high.....
these are $22.50 a sheet and $17 for shipping
http://www.reliablehardware.com/abslaminateblack.aspx (http://www.reliablehardware.com/abslaminateblack.aspx)
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His shipping seems very high.....
these are $22.50 a sheet and $17 for shipping
http://www.reliablehardware.com/abslaminateblack.aspx (http://www.reliablehardware.com/abslaminateblack.aspx)
That's a great deal but this would be why,
ABS, But Laminate?
This is an ABS plastic sheeting, NOT a counter top laminate. It lacks the hardness and stiffness of counter top laminates, but it is easier to trim and glue. It is designed for making boxes. You may want to spend more for the more durable counter top stuff, or not, depending on you needs.
He's selling counter top grade standard laminate, more durable,and probably heavier, so your getting a better quality laminate that retails between $50 - $ 75.00 a sheet. This is food prep grade, so just think off all the scratching scraping cutting is expected to happen on this stuff.
Most guys buy this stuff to add durability to the sides of the cabs so it stays nice...If your using as a flat surface just cover up with side art, your suggestion would probably suffice...
Also keep in mind that's business, so they probably get massive discounted rates due to volume, this is guy doesn't normally ship this stuff out, so UPS is going to gauge him as they have no idea what kind of volume he will have. So those arent his rates, that UPS's rates for the normal consumer.
Regardless, my 5 sheets on the way for 150.00, so we will see how it goes....
I'll post photos and writeup of the quality when my shipment arrives....
I am keeping that link though, that is good deal thanks for sharing....
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Thanks for pointing that out to me on the material.
Still learning :)
I saw a post that someone used this stuff all the time so I bookmarked. Now I see that it is ABS and not laminate
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Ok folks here's the deal.....
I'm in Texas, and he's shipping me out 5 sheets for 150.00, that's a hell of a deal...the shipping may vary for each receiving state but not much.
UPS quotes $30.00 (varies slighty per receiving state) for 1 sheet plus $10-15 for each additional sheet.
So for the onesy twosey orders his price is 30.00 a sheet plus shipping. Still at 60.00 shipped your below retail...
The best deal is the 5 sheets i think, in this hobby you can always use some laminate....
PM me for his contact info, if your serious about an order....
$150 shipped for the 5 is a pretty good deal but at $60 for a single sheet you should be able to do better locally at a cabinet maker, countertop maker, or Hardware supply (ie. Home depot has Wilsonart 4x8 panels that can be special ordered for pick up at $42 - http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203592675?catalogId=14146&langId=-1&storeId=10051&superSkuId=202723485&N=5yc1vZc3b5&R=203592675#.UToPGVc2GTY (http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203592675?catalogId=14146&langId=-1&storeId=10051&superSkuId=202723485&N=5yc1vZc3b5&R=203592675#.UToPGVc2GTY) ) - The shipping cost on items like this always kills the pricing if you can find it locally where they ship to the store in bulk or along with a full truck of deliveries heading to the store so the shipping cost is distributed out on all the items.
Still always nice to have another option to consider !
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Ok folks here's the deal.....
I'm in Texas, and he's shipping me out 5 sheets for 150.00, that's a hell of a deal...the shipping may vary for each receiving state but not much.
UPS quotes $30.00 (varies slighty per receiving state) for 1 sheet plus $10-15 for each additional sheet.
So for the onesy twosey orders his price is 30.00 a sheet plus shipping. Still at 60.00 shipped your below retail...
The best deal is the 5 sheets i think, in this hobby you can always use some laminate....
PM me for his contact info, if your serious about an order....
$150 shipped for the 5 is a pretty good deal but at $60 for a single sheet you should be able to do better locally at a cabinet maker, countertop maker, or Hardware supply (ie. Home depot has Wilsonart 4x8 panels that can be special ordered for pick up at $42 - http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203592675?catalogId=14146&langId=-1&storeId=10051&superSkuId=202723485&N=5yc1vZc3b5&R=203592675#.UToPGVc2GTY (http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203592675?catalogId=14146&langId=-1&storeId=10051&superSkuId=202723485&N=5yc1vZc3b5&R=203592675#.UToPGVc2GTY) ) - The shipping cost on items like this always kills the pricing if you can find it locally where they ship to the store in bulk or along with a full truck of deliveries heading to the store so the shipping cost is distributed out on all the items.
Still always nice to have another option to consider !
I agree, only issue is finding it. Click the check stock and you'll see what i mean...
Not all home depots carry the stuff in house, if they do your lucky. What your not factoring in is those home depots that dont carry it in house and you have to custom order it. Tack on 30.00 for the custom order and that 40.00 sheet is now 75.00. I live 2 streets from a home depot, and they told me most HD's stopped stocking laminate, and went to custom orders due to the lack of comsumer demand.
So for those HD's that have it, lucky dogs......I agree local pick up is always good, but even at a local lumber yard, they charge 75.00 a sheet for pickup. So they know the price point....
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Hello All,
Good news, USPS ships this stuff out. He wasn't sure they would due to size...
The cool part is they use the DIM method for items this size.
In a nutshell they have a min charge for shipping an item of this size due to the dimensions.
So he gave me an extra sheet for helping him out.....So that makes 6 sheets $140.00 shipped to Texas, for those concerned about shipping rates....
I let the $10.00 ride as he was not expecting to deal with shipping this stuff out. Now that he knows the prices and the process, he's willing to ship more out....
The minimum shipping is $30.00, so 1 sheet is probably not the best way, but 60.00 shipped isnt bad if no one has is local.
The shipping is in your favor when when you order more than a sheet and better at 5+ sheets.
Keep in mind the price per sheet gets lower if you buy over 5 sheets....
This is how he packed it, and gave me tracking.....weight around 50lbs.
He's really cool, and he'd rather someone use it than sit up in his shop. He will work deals based on volume....
(http://i.imgur.com/GndDriL.jpg)
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Laminate is in....picking up tomorrow....post photos and small review of product
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I'm looking forward to your review.
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Hi everyone,
I am looking to build a MAME arcade and not sure what this is for but I am located in Sacramento so I would be able to pick this up at this price. This is just to add durability to the cabinet correct? Would I be able to add side art to this? If so, is this typically done? Just starting out the process of building a MAME. Thanks.
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For anyone else that doesn't know what this stuff is used for see below....
It makes this
(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/build119.jpg)
Look like this
(http://www.kinemote.net/mame/build127.jpg)
This is the alternative to painting your cab, some folks do inside and outside. You will need about 5 sheets to do your entire cab.
Even though it's overkill, if your doing sideart this gives you a nice smooth surface to lay your graphic on.
Here's a tut on installation.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1hBA0011eI
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ok folks,
I got my order in......
(http://i.imgur.com/ccI1J6K.jpg?1)
Wrapped nicely....
(http://i.imgur.com/k5YHbxX.jpg?1)
The material looks great and will be perfect for my bartops....
Now USPS f'd and dropped the package on the edges, cause on onside, the was a 1 inch crack in all 6 sheets, doesnt matter to me though as im doing bartops.
No big deal for full size cabs either as that part would get trimmed off.
Other than the cracks on the pieces, this was well worth it....I will be ordering more in the future if he has it.....
PM me for the guys contact info if interested....
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Man this guy is awesome.....
I sent photos of the damage, he's sending me out new sheets at no extra charge....
He apologized even though wasn't his fault, is going to look into more protective shipping method, and will mark package as fragile.
I'm going to try this stuff out tomorrow on a bartop side, will post photos when done....
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rablack97, have u had a chance to apply this stuff to a substrate yet? If so, how did it turn out?
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No cause I don't have a j roller to apply and these things are hard to locate....I was able to find one at rockler so I will be pickicking one up this weekend and testing
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could you send me his contact info please? this sounds like a great deal!
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could you send me his contact info please? this sounds like a great deal!
PM sent
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thank you, super nice guy. i'm getting 4 sheets for $60! i thought about driving out there but at a 230 mile round trip, his $35 shipping quote is cheaper then the gas i'd be spending.
he is going to send me some pics tomorrow of the different colors he has and i'll be posting here in case anyone is interested.
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Sweet had no idea he had different colors....
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Before.......BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(http://i.imgur.com/Ph1Y5hQ.jpg)
After...... :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZnIqwCW.jpg)
FYI,
This was my first application of this stuff....A few notes...
- Cutting this stuff to size is harder than I thought, a full sheet tears really easy on the edges, so I was murdering my first sheet on the table saw. This was ok though as my sides are small and I flush cut the edges...
- IF you have a large table saw, it cuts like butter, just make sure you either have something to support the hanging sheet or a helper
- For those using this on full cab just be extra careful up until you apply it to the machine, once its on there, then it get's its super strength.
- I picked up a j-roller at Rockler for about 17.00
- I used 3m 98 contact spray contact cement, although i've been told loctite 300 does the same job and the can its 4.00 cheaper
I am super happy with the results, I can do both sides of 2 bartops on one sheet, which is awesome.
Hope this helps anyone that was on the bridge or skeptical about buying.....
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Wouldn't you just cut it with a router and flush-trim bit or something?
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That's an option as well, you could flush cut against a 2 x 4.
I would suggest getting a smaller laminate cutter, that can be used with one hand to do the job.
Once I got the rough cuts done, i used my regular router to flush cut the final, turned out nice.....
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The final results look good. Thx for sharing! So these sheets are a little thinner than standard laminate correct? Those are typically 1/16"?
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Yes these are 1/32, the 1/16 version is more expensive.
Also keep in mind if your using 5/8 mdf you you need 3/4 t-molding...
1/32 is thinner so no need to get the wider molding.
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Sending pics of the different colors he has.
Some of the other colors are 1/16 which is awesome.
Whats even better is price will be the same.......
Also,
This is best deal i've seen on spray adhesive.......good to tock up on this if your gonna laminate alot of pieces....
http://www.hardwareandtools.com/Henkel-1629134-Loctite-300-Spray-Adhesive-Pro-13-5-Ounce-6861801.html (http://www.hardwareandtools.com/Henkel-1629134-Loctite-300-Spray-Adhesive-Pro-13-5-Ounce-6861801.html)
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Will he ship to Australia ?
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I asked about this and international shipping for the size and weight, is pushing 250.00 to 300.00.
International shipping has sky rocketed here as of late, so the answer is yes if your willing to put up the funds to have it shipped there.
If you can't find the stuff in your area, then i would go for a bulk order to make it worth your while, he's gotten really good at packing this stuff nicely so theres no damage to the material.
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For those of you scared to touch the stuff, check it out....
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,131756.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,131756.0.html)
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Curious on the shipping costs. 20 bucks a sheet is a real steal!
Let us know when you find out.
I'm in NJ.
:cheers:
I bought full sheets for $14 from brooklyn years ago. multiple times. they have like hundred different patterns/color. it was somewhere in downtown brooklyn. took the G train there. you can try google searching. but I cant remember the name or location at all.
(sorry little off topic)
I go to Brooklyn every other week... I NEED the name of that location / store with thee cheap laminate sheets. Anything I have been able to find is double in price per sheet. The cheapest is $38 shipped to my local Lowes Home Improvement store.
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these are $22.50 a sheet and $17 for shipping
http://www.reliablehardware.com/abslaminateblack.aspx (http://www.reliablehardware.com/abslaminateblack.aspx)
Noted. Thank you for that link.
That's a great deal but this would be why,
ABS, But Laminate?
This is an ABS plastic sheeting, NOT a counter top laminate. It lacks the hardness and stiffness of counter top laminates, but it is easier to trim and glue. It is designed for making boxes. You may want to spend more for the more durable counter top stuff, or not, depending on you needs.
He's selling counter top grade standard laminate, more durable,and probably heavier, so your getting a better quality laminate that retails between $50 - $ 75.00 a sheet. This is food prep grade, so just think off all the scratching scraping cutting is expected to happen on this stuff.
ABS is what suitcases are made of. They are expected to take a serious beating and still look good. ABS, being softer, has some very limited self healing properties, and it's actually harder to see imperfections when damage occurs. Countertop, while capable of taking a fair bit of abuse, still looks pretty bad when it isn't cared for. Scratches, cracked / chipped edges and corners are commonplace with this material. Chances are, anything which will screw up ABS enough to notice it, will do the same or worse on countertop laminate. ABS doesn't crack or chip, is much easier to machine, is a lot easier on your cutting tools, can be bent around corners with a little heat if desired, and is usually less expensive.
I don't see any reason to avoid using ABS, or to seek out countertop laminate in this application, unless there is a specific pattern desired which is only available in that material type.
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Agreed and I have that link bookmarked myself.
I wasn't saying dont use it, but the thread was about cheap laminate sources.
The ABS also has more colors....I'm going to try some myself based on your review above.
Regardless, the laminate works well once its on the core.....I experienced chipping only when it was cold out, on a warm day, if you let it heat up, no chipping at all.
I've also had a few sheets on the garage floor, trampled on, dust, etc, wiped off clean not scrapes or scratches.
So it's preference i guess, at 1/32 thickness it doesn't phase my router.....
The 1/16 wilsonart stuff is a different story that stuff is top notch and robust, just pricey.
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I wasn't saying dont use it, but the thread was about cheap laminate sources.
Technically, the ABS in that thickness is a laminate ;)
Regardless, the laminate works well once its on the core.....I experienced chipping only when it was cold out, on a warm day, if you let it heat up, no chipping at all.
It's pretty tough, but be careful with the corners while moving the cabinet. They will be the first thing to chip, if they take an impact. Melamine is also very susceptible to this type of damage.
So it's preference i guess, at 1/32 thickness it doesn't phase my router.....
Not the router, but the bit. Laminate is usually cut with carbide, as it is so hard that it dulls edges very quickly. For a "one off" job, it's not a big deal, but cutter wear is significantly higher with countertop material.
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I wasn't saying dont use it, but the thread was about cheap laminate sources.
Technically, the ABS in that thickness is a laminate ;)
Regardless, the laminate works well once its on the core.....I experienced chipping only when it was cold out, on a warm day, if you let it heat up, no chipping at all.
It's pretty tough, but be careful with the corners while moving the cabinet. They will be the first thing to chip, if they take an impact. Melamine is also very susceptible to this type of damage.
So it's preference i guess, at 1/32 thickness it doesn't phase my router.....
Not the router, but the bit. Laminate is usually cut with carbide, as it is so hard that it dulls edges very quickly. For a "one off" job, it's not a big deal, but cutter wear is significantly higher with countertop material.
Damn you Randy, I can never win with you, too smart for your own good.... :burgerking:
I never win, but I can't ever say i dont learn.... :cheers:
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Damn you Randy, I can never win with you, too smart for your own good....
Heh. I don't know about that, but I had to pull a lot of parts through this thing to pay for it. Couldn't help but to pick up a few things along the way ;)
(http://www.groovygamegear.com/4x8cncrouter.jpg)
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:'( its sniff just so beautiful....sniff
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Hi,
If he still has the laminate, I would be interested in five sheets shipped to OH. Which form of payment does he take?
Could you pm me the details?
Tom
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he takes paypal....i'll check to see if he has some left
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Thanks! Got your Pm, just could not respond via PM as my status with 2 posts does not allow that :lol