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Title: 'MIGHTY CADE' Bartop (21,3 inch lcd) 100%
Post by: Almighty on March 04, 2013, 04:06:32 pm
Hi guys,

After completed my MameCade (2P red version), and sold :P, i am now starting to build my new Bartop.
This time with more emulators and with different layouts (thanks to mike ;))
(MameCade red 2P version)
(http://[url=http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3813/mamecadestreetfighter3f.jpg]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3813/mamecadestreetfighter3f.jpg[/url])
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4485/streetfighter3mamecader.jpg)
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7315/mamecadecp.jpg)
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3526/doubledragonmamecade.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/552/mamecadelogo.jpg)

Here you can see my progress and when i post some more new pictures i post them also here on this topic. :)

Cheers Marc.
( mamecade? 1P version work in progress)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6205/img2602bj.jpg)
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9176/img2623r.jpg)

http://bartopmania.com/index.php?t=msg&th=102&start=0& (http://bartopmania.com/index.php?t=msg&th=102&start=0&)
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 20,3 lcd screen (work in progress)
Post by: Almighty on March 09, 2013, 03:09:02 pm
Some new update's incl. video soundtest.

awesome with the subwoofer ^^

next steps to do:

bezel (black)
marquee holder (metal frame)
mdf primer (holes)
led strip (marquee)
paint the Bartop ( i think white )
waiting for my working slg ( with a molex for power )

and maby some other little thinks.

Cheers Marc.

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3927/img0012kr.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9789/img0013ni.jpg)
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9971/img0014ft.jpg)
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6522/img0016na.jpg)
(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/993/img0017ym.jpg)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1101/img0018kc.jpg)
(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4536/img0019sb.jpg)
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9904/img0020vd.jpg)
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1885/img0022slw.jpg)
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/7323/img0025pi.jpg)
video:
AlmightyCade Bartop (work in progress) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDRcjpoPeE4#ws)
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 20,3 lcd screen (work in progress)
Post by: Almighty on March 10, 2013, 08:31:18 am
today didt:

- mdf primer
- black border plexi glass

Now it is cold outside (snow again  :badmood: ) but when the weather gets better i will finish my Bartop.
(primer/paint and some othere little things)

I really like this Bartop and i am really happy i choossed a huge screen for this project.


(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6825/img0032ed.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 20,3 lcd screen (work in progress)
Post by: Almighty on March 14, 2013, 04:19:51 pm
Mal layout pengo, Super Metroid, Megaman, Mario and Sonic. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F2APazR7Lo#ws)
mala is ready and now the only think to do is painting and marquee artwork.

thanks Mike for the mala layouts, it looks awesome :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 20,3 lcd screen (work in progress)
Post by: mike boss on March 14, 2013, 04:30:13 pm
Looks amazing !
Love the big monitor.
Smooth transitions !
Really like your work.

I'll make sure the marquee looks awesome!
What color you thinking for the cabinet.
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 20,3 lcd screen (work in progress)
Post by: Termin8tor on March 14, 2013, 06:29:47 pm
Super work Almighty. I love this bartop. The screen really makes it stand out.  :applaud:
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 20,3 lcd screen (work in progress)
Post by: Almighty on March 15, 2013, 02:02:04 am
Thank you guys.

@Mike: the color would be white because of his size it will look nice that way. (Baltop, buttons and marquee will give him the blue colors)
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 15, 2013, 03:07:39 pm
And some screenshots with my slg3000.

great and sharp picture with this lcd.
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1929/img0046cc.jpg)
(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7207/img0047j.jpg)
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 17, 2013, 05:01:53 pm
I painted the cab, 1X primer and tonight one layer White paint.

I only have some problems with my slg3000.

When i turned the device off and boot up xp to Mala i have a picture and then when i am in Mala i have to turn on my slg for the scanlines.When i turn on my slg by booting up xp there will be sometimes no screen and only sound.

I really don't get it and with the yellow bartop i also had sometimes that problem.

Could that be a problem from the combination slg, videocard and lcd screen? ( too long VGA cable, bad DVI/VGA connector videocard, etc?)

And are there any other solutions for scanlines ( no setup Mala/mame etc.) just a device (800X600)

Here some pictures from the Bartop, looks great that White 8)

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6286/img0080xb.jpg)
primer
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6056/img0085vao.jpg)
glossy white 1X (i will do 3 layers)

keep you guys posted!
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Seith on March 17, 2013, 06:52:22 pm
And some screenshots with my slg3000.

great and sharp picture with this lcd.
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1929/img0046cc.jpg)
(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7207/img0047j.jpg)
 :cheers:

Do you have HLSL on in these pics?
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 18, 2013, 01:42:42 am
HLSL?

just a lcd with slg3000
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: eldiau on March 18, 2013, 03:40:27 am
I guess you are not getting any picture because the slg is not passing the edid info from the monitor to the pc, if you are using linux or win 7 you could try to download edid and save them on the pc. Anyway I wouldn't bother with a scanline generator, unless you plan to use a real PCB (like a neogeo MVS), go for software scanlines. Set the resolution to the native LCD and use "effect" in mame with a good overlay picture or HLSL if you have a powerful gfx card. I think MAME effect does e better job then slg if your LCD does 1280x1024 or more... and much cheaper!
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: eldiau on March 18, 2013, 06:58:04 am
... just forgot you get one more bonus over SLG:

- with effect your scan lines get the correct rotation on vertical games
- with HLSL you get rotation and many other goodies like screen deformation, color bleeding, flickering etc...
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 18, 2013, 03:31:14 pm
I guess you are not getting any picture because the slg is not passing the edid info from the monitor to the pc, if you are using linux or win 7 you could try to download edid and save them on the pc. Anyway I wouldn't bother with a scanline generator, unless you plan to use a real PCB (like a neogeo MVS), go for software scanlines. Set the resolution to the native LCD and use "effect" in mame with a good overlay picture or HLSL if you have a powerful gfx card. I think MAME effect does e better job then slg if your LCD does 1280x1024 or more... and much cheaper!
thanks for the feedback!

I am using windows xp and my card is 512mb Ati card.
pc spec's: P4 dual core E4300/3Gb/160Gb/DVDRW/X1650.

Where can i download/find a good overlay for mame, because never tried that and i tought it was easier too use a SLG ;)
And do i have to chance the mame ini file?

My max resolution for the lcd is 1600X1200 (4:3)


Second layer glossy White and this looks freaking awesome!
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5108/img0088xv.jpg)
And i am using these on the top/back:
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8589/12077369622040401.jpg)
I think this wil look great when the Bartop is on, glossy White, blue buttons/bubble baltop and led blue led fan's. ( and a blue marquee)

Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Drnick on March 18, 2013, 03:41:23 pm
Very nice job,  Are you spraying the paint?   

Have you got a way of controlling the speed for the fan's  If not I would highly recommend you get one.  2 of those fans at 1800 RPM kick up a lot of noise.   Tweak them back to about 1200 and they are lovely. I'm sure someone here could tell me how to do it with some wire and resisitors but the £2 for a speed controller was worth it.

If you haven't already purchased then try something like these which have a built in controller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustable-RPM-Speed-80mm-8cm-Blue-4-LED-Computer-Case-Cooling-Fan-Controller-/160843340153?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2573029979 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustable-RPM-Speed-80mm-8cm-Blue-4-LED-Computer-Case-Cooling-Fan-Controller-/160843340153?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2573029979)
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 18, 2013, 03:49:28 pm
Very nice job,  Are you spraying the paint?   

Have you got a way of controlling the speed for the fan's  If not I would highly recommend you get one.  2 of those fans at 1800 RPM kick up a lot of noise.   Tweak them back to about 1200 and they are lovely. I'm sure someone here could tell me how to do it with some wire and resisitors but the £2 for a speed controller was worth it.

If you haven't already purchased then try something like these which have a built in controller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustable-RPM-Speed-80mm-8cm-Blue-4-LED-Computer-Case-Cooling-Fan-Controller-/160843340153?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2573029979 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustable-RPM-Speed-80mm-8cm-Blue-4-LED-Computer-Case-Cooling-Fan-Controller-/160843340153?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item2573029979)
Not spraying, using a roller.

If it make a lot of noise i will use a fan controller.
These fan's using 12V or i can try to connect them to 5V ;)

I think i wil not hear them because there is comming a lot of sound out of this Bartop, 2.1 soundsystem incl subwoofer.
The most noise is comming from the hard drive....
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 20, 2013, 03:34:08 pm
today painted the last parts and final layer on my Bartop.

marquee holders/bezel:
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/570/img0096gy.jpg)
i wil buy white screws or black or i paint them.

last layer white gloss paint (3 times)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8994/img0106by.jpg)
you can see the shiny refelection on the Bartop.

back bartop and part under the control panel.
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/75/img0107zm.jpg)

I think this weekend it's ready :D
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: eldiau on March 20, 2013, 07:33:57 pm
I guess you are not getting any picture because the slg is not passing the edid info from the monitor to the pc, if you are using linux or win 7 you could try to download edid and save them on the pc. Anyway I wouldn't bother with a scanline generator, unless you plan to use a real PCB (like a neogeo MVS), go for software scanlines. Set the resolution to the native LCD and use "effect" in mame with a good overlay picture or HLSL if you have a powerful gfx card. I think MAME effect does e better job then slg if your LCD does 1280x1024 or more... and much cheaper!
thanks for the feedback!

I am using windows xp and my card is 512mb Ati card.
pc spec's: P4 dual core E4300/3Gb/160Gb/DVDRW/X1650.

Where can i download/find a good overlay for mame, because never tried that and i tought it was easier too use a SLG ;)
And do i have to chance the mame ini file?

My max resolution for the lcd is 1600X1200 (4:3)


You can find many overlays here: http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=117585&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 (http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=117585&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1)
The ones I personally prefer are Scanlines75Dx4.png and ApertureHRES.png from John IV or aperturescan1280.png from rens .

remember tu set "switchres 0"

BTW, great work on your bartop!
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 21, 2013, 06:02:23 pm
And there is light ;)
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2770/img0110tr.jpg)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9606/img0112zx.jpg)
buttons/stick placed back and looks nice on that shiny white control panel.
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/415/img0113wa.jpg)
Last but not least, here is my Marquee artwork, i present you the 'MIGHTY CADE'  8)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9008/47x9marqueefinal.png)
Great matching color with the light's, buttons and stick.

(special thanks to Mike because he made the marquee artwork for me and all the layout's!!! :applaud:)
When i am ready this weekend i will post a nice video and some final pictures soon.

This weekend i will place the marquee, bezel and some other thinks back in the Bartop.

Cheers Marc.
Title: Re: Big Bartop with 21,3 screen (only painting left to do and some little thinks)
Post by: Almighty on March 23, 2013, 05:16:12 pm
95% ready, maby i will put some side art (left and right side Bartop) like the blue blocks in the marquee or i will keep it this way.

In the future i will also put in a bubble led but for now i am ready,

here it is, the 'MIGHTY CADE'  :cheers:
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6681/img0141pc.jpg)
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6826/img0142scv.jpg)
(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8135/img0143as.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7333/img0151dg.jpg)
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5270/img0144pv.jpg)
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5120/img0146bct.jpg)
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2051/img0148wp.jpg)

Now it's time too play!!! :laugh:
Title: Re: 'MIGHTY CADE' Bartop (21,3 inch lcd) 95% ready.
Post by: Almighty on March 24, 2013, 12:18:58 pm
updated the marquee,

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2747/img0156qd.jpg)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8508/img0157fw.jpg)
and placed the 'Mighty Cade' more in the center, it has too be (mighty)perfect ;)
Title: Re: 'MIGHTY CADE' Bartop (21,3 inch lcd) 95% ready.
Post by: Almighty on March 26, 2013, 04:51:53 pm
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7337/img0158gs.jpg)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1724/img0159di.jpg)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/580/img0160nvo.jpg)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6130/img0163ih.jpg)
video:
Mighty Cade Bartop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EtLIG7qCzI#ws)
special thanks too Mike for the layouts/marguee  :cheers: