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Title: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: deadxstop on December 14, 2012, 03:06:16 pm

This is my first post, so please be gentle with me.

I'm converting a Phoenix jamma cab into a 60 in 1 but when I installed the board the screen is all lines. The sound works perfect and if I can hear the sounds while moving the stick around. I see colors flashing but it's like the vertical hold needs to get tweaked. I double checked and the CGA monitor works perfectly with the old Phoenix jamma board.

I know this has to be something simple but there is no one out there that I know to ask.

Please Obi-wan, you're my only hope.

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Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: TOK on December 14, 2012, 04:05:38 pm
It appears to be running out of sync. There should be a dip switch to run at CGA or VGA.
Is it in CGA mode?
Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: TOK on December 14, 2012, 04:08:03 pm
In the 4 bank dip switch, switch 2 should be off for CGA if this is the board you have.
http://www.jammaboards.com/arcade_manuals/60-in-1_iCade_Classic_Arcade_Manual_Online.pdf (http://www.jammaboards.com/arcade_manuals/60-in-1_iCade_Classic_Arcade_Manual_Online.pdf)
Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: deadxstop on December 14, 2012, 04:11:35 pm
Yes, all the dip switches are off, meaning switch two is set to CGA
Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: paigeoliver on December 14, 2012, 06:01:11 pm
That could also just be adjustments. I have never had an X in 1 board that didn't require extensive monitor adjustments before it displayed correctly on a CGA monitor. I actually had to put a width cap in one 19 in 1  machine because the thing outputted so wicked narrow that I couldn't get the image adjusted any closer than an inch from the sides.
Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: brad808 on December 14, 2012, 08:34:04 pm
That could also just be adjustments. I have never had an X in 1 board that didn't require extensive monitor adjustments before it displayed correctly on a CGA monitor. I actually had to put a width cap in one 19 in 1  machine because the thing outputted so wicked narrow that I couldn't get the image adjusted any closer than an inch from the sides.

Can you explain the width cap idea? I've had it before where say adjustment pots on a remote board or a horizontal width coil physically wouldn't move the signal far enough in a direction and I've often considered changing out the value or adding resistors to see if I could alter it further. I haven't actually messed with it though, not sure if I haven't had time or if I'm just scared.
Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: paigeoliver on December 14, 2012, 08:50:42 pm
More information on width caps here.

http://www.therealbobroberts.net/width.html (http://www.therealbobroberts.net/width.html)

Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: TOK on December 15, 2012, 09:41:09 am
The one other thing I suggest reading up on is positive and negative sync. Not sure what monitor you're running, or about the rest of your setup because Phoenix wasn't JAMMA.

http://arcadecontrols.com/BBBB/sync.html (http://arcadecontrols.com/BBBB/sync.html)
Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: BobA on December 15, 2012, 11:44:21 am
Sometimes the DIP switches on the 60 in 1 boards are very poor quality.   Try turning the bit that you require on and off 2 or 3 times to make sure it is switching.
Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: armi0024 on December 17, 2012, 12:40:52 pm
That definitely looks like a VGA sync issue.

Did you try just pluggin in a regular computer monitor to see if it comes up, there should be a VGA out off the board.  If that comes up fine you know your problem.

Title: Re: Help. Can't get 60 in 1 to work with my CGA monitor.
Post by: mgb on December 17, 2012, 11:40:14 pm
The one other thing I suggest reading up on is positive and negative sync. Not sure what monitor you're running, or about the rest of your setup because Phoenix wasn't JAMMA.

http://arcadecontrols.com/BBBB/sync.html (http://arcadecontrols.com/BBBB/sync.html)

+1 on this.
the sync may not be hooked up right. the 60 in 1 is a jamma board so it uses negative composite sync. you may need to jump both the H and V sync connectors at the monitor connector.
also not sure what monitor you have, but I'm guessing maybe an Electrohome g07 (but it could be any)