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Title: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: NewToBuilding on December 02, 2012, 12:34:44 pm
Can you guys help me out on what I need? Here is what I have so far:

Joysticks (1 of each):
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=291 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=291)
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=288 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=288)

Buttons (1 of each):
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=241 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=241)
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=333 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=333)

Buttons (I’ll buy6 of each):
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=349 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=349)
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=347 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=347)

Wires:
http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/en/jamma-harnesses/405-30-connection-black-daisy-chain-110.html (http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/en/jamma-harnesses/405-30-connection-black-daisy-chain-110.html)
http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/en/jamma-harnesses/402-16-wire-rainbow-packtm-with-110-quick-connector.html (http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/en/jamma-harnesses/402-16-wire-rainbow-packtm-with-110-quick-connector.html)


Is there anything else I'll need? I'm planning on building a bartop with an xbox as the internals.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: RyoriNoTetsujin on December 02, 2012, 01:29:40 pm
How are you planning on getting those parts to interface with your xbox?

Hacking a controller (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,76185.0.html)?

Buying an interface (such as an iPac (http://ultimarc.com/ipac1.html) + the associated console adapter (http://ultimarc.com/xba.html)?)
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: PL1 on December 02, 2012, 01:33:40 pm
Looks like a good start.

What are you using for your encoder? Hacked controllers or planning to drop in several of the new KADEs once they released?

Have you made a list of admin button functions? (start, back, exit, etc.)

Also, I assume on the rainbow 16-pack of wires that you are getting several of them:
2 joysticks - 8 wires
12 player buttons - 12 wires
other buttons - ?

To see if you've forgotten anything else, you might want to check out Degenatrons' XBox build here (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,119435.0.html).  It includes videos and lots of details.


Scott
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: NewToBuilding on December 02, 2012, 01:47:17 pm
How are you planning on getting those parts to interface with your xbox?

Hacking a controller (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,76185.0.html)?

Buying an interface (such as an iPac (http://ultimarc.com/ipac1.html) + the associated console adapter (http://ultimarc.com/xba.html)?)


Sorry, I should have given more information.

I bought a KADE interface. It's not out yet, so I'm slowly buying the parts I'll need :)

Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: NewToBuilding on December 02, 2012, 01:50:00 pm
Looks like a good start.

What are you using for your encoder? Hacked controllers or planning to drop in several of the new KADEs once they released?

Have you made a list of admin button functions? (start, back, exit, etc.)

Also, I assume on the rainbow 16-pack of wires that you are getting several of them:
2 joysticks - 8 wires
12 player buttons - 12 wires
other buttons - ?

To see if you've forgotten anything else, you might want to check out Degenatrons' XBox build here (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,119435.0.html).  It includes videos and lots of details.


Scott

You're spot on about the KADE :D. That's one sparked my interest to finally get going. I've always wanted to build one, but I suck at soldering and stuff. I saw on another website, the KADE project, and bought two of them.

I was told to buy those cables by someone on the KADE team. Do I need more than that?

I will definitely check out Degenatrons' XBox build. Thanks for the help :)
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: NewToBuilding on December 02, 2012, 01:57:09 pm
Sorry about all the typos and grammar errors. I shouldn't type replies without my glasses on  :-\

I was trying to say that the KADE really got my motivation going when I saw it. I suck at soldering and this seems simple enough for someone like me.
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: PL1 on December 02, 2012, 02:26:22 pm
You're spot on about the KADE :D. That's one sparked my interest to finally get going. I've always wanted to build one, but I suck at soldering and stuff. I saw on another website, the KADE project, and bought two of them.

I was told to buy those cables by someone on the KADE team. Do I need more than that?

I will definitely check out Degenatrons' XBox build. Thanks for the help :)

2 of the 16-pack QD wires and 1 of the 30-connector daisy-chain grounds should be fine for wiring the controls on a 2P bartop.

I recommended reading up on Jon's and other builds so you can see some of the little things that people forget like marquee retainers, cooling fans, volume controls, monitor power on/off, etc.

It's a good way to uncover the things you don't know that you don't know -- the unknown unknowns.

BTW Floriske.nl is in the process of doing a similar build (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,123039.0.html) using KADE prototypes.


Scott
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: NewToBuilding on December 02, 2012, 04:00:04 pm
You're spot on about the KADE :D. That's one sparked my interest to finally get going. I've always wanted to build one, but I suck at soldering and stuff. I saw on another website, the KADE project, and bought two of them.

I was told to buy those cables by someone on the KADE team. Do I need more than that?

I will definitely check out Degenatrons' XBox build. Thanks for the help :)

2 of the 16-pack QD wires and 1 of the 30-connector daisy-chain grounds should be fine for wiring the controls on a 2P bartop.

I recommended reading up on Jon's and other builds so you can see some of the little things that people forget like marquee retainers, cooling fans, volume controls, monitor power on/off, etc.

It's a good way to uncover the things you don't know that you don't know -- the unknown unknowns.

BTW Floriske.nl is in the process of doing a similar build (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,123039.0.html) using KADE prototypes.


Scott

Awesome! Thank you very much for the help and links!
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: equlizer on December 02, 2012, 05:14:04 pm
The KADE is missing one thing.  Rotary control!  Then it would be perfect and i would get one.
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: degenatrons on December 04, 2012, 06:37:59 pm
Looks like a good start.

What are you using for your encoder? Hacked controllers or planning to drop in several of the new KADEs once they released?

Have you made a list of admin button functions? (start, back, exit, etc.)

Also, I assume on the rainbow 16-pack of wires that you are getting several of them:
2 joysticks - 8 wires
12 player buttons - 12 wires
other buttons - ?

To see if you've forgotten anything else, you might want to check out Degenatrons' XBox build here (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,119435.0.html).  It includes videos and lots of details.


Scott

You're spot on about the KADE :D. That's one sparked my interest to finally get going. I've always wanted to build one, but I suck at soldering and stuff. I saw on another website, the KADE project, and bought two of them.

I was told to buy those cables by someone on the KADE team. Do I need more than that?

I will definitely check out Degenatrons' XBox build. Thanks for the help :)

That was me who recommended you get 2 of those cables :D
Another option is to re-purpose the cable from an old (or broken) xbox controller and attach a USB female port to end. 
Yet another option is to use a regular USB extension cable and wire one end to the wires behind the controller port.  If you're de-casing your xbox then this is a cheap solution.
The wiring of both options is super easy. 

(http://i.imgur.com/YU0IU.jpg)

Those cables are cheap to just go buy.  Often,  I don't have the patience to wait for parts.
Title: Re: Total newbie when it come sto building a cabinet......
Post by: degenatrons on December 04, 2012, 06:48:09 pm
The KADE is missing one thing.  Rotary control!  Then it would be perfect and i would get one.
Rotary support is a feature we really want to see on KADE and we'll be experimenting with trackball support soon.

We just ordered some trackballs to play around with,  including a Happ Arcade Trackball (with AMOA Harness) and a Sparkfun Trackball (with PS/2 plug).
Big shout out to Victor for contributing these items to our KickStarter project.