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Title: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 23, 2012, 11:00:56 pm
Well I've been a hobbiest of several hobbies for 20 years now.  I think its time to get off the sawhorses and garbage bins and make a nice flat stable place to work.  I've been watching the Woodsmith shop on PBS (Yeah I know).  They had a project they called the "Weekend Workbench".  Well the weekend came and went and I'm about a day from having the base completed.  So far I'm into it $162.57 and and I have about $113.86 left to go.   http://www.woodsmithshop.com/download/206/heavy-duty-workbench.pdf (http://www.woodsmithshop.com/download/206/heavy-duty-workbench.pdf)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyMzQuanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyMzUuanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyMzYuanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyMzcuanBn.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: 05SRT4 on April 23, 2012, 11:06:26 pm
Thanks for posting the plans!!!

I cant wait till I get my own garage/building room so I can build one.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: GregD on April 24, 2012, 08:08:30 am
What are you putting on this for vices?  Shoulder vice?  Tail Vice?  Any bench dogs going in?  They can be very useful.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: Mysterioii on April 24, 2012, 08:19:35 am
Looks great!  I recently built one of these in my garage...

http://www.familyhandyman.com/DIY-Projects/Woodworking/Workbenches/how-to-build-a-workbench-super-simple-50-bench/View-All (http://www.familyhandyman.com/DIY-Projects/Woodworking/Workbenches/how-to-build-a-workbench-super-simple-50-bench/View-All)

It looks a little "cheesy" but in person it's bigger and sturdier than it looks here.  I used real wood instead of plywood for the work surface and the whole back is pegboard so it looks a little nicer than theirs I think.  I plan to use it more for electronics than woodworking so no vice or grinder yet.  It's a quick build though, you can get one done in a long afternoon.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: EvilNuff on April 24, 2012, 08:24:03 am
Nicely done, having a good workbench can make all the difference on a project. :)  Here's another starter one that's easy to build and quite sturdy:
http://www.startwoodworking.com/plans/build-simple-sturdy-workbench (http://www.startwoodworking.com/plans/build-simple-sturdy-workbench)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: SteveR on April 24, 2012, 10:10:37 am
Nice. I got a table with a solid wood top at a garage sale but it has spindly legs. It's been fine up against the wall, but I want to be able to move it out into my work space. I've been thinking about how to rebuild the legs and this thread gives me a few ideas.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on April 24, 2012, 10:27:57 am
3 sheets of mdf.  wow.  that sucker's not going anywhere.  make sure you build it where it's going to be used!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: drventure on April 24, 2012, 10:46:27 am
FineWoodworking had an article in their Tools and Shops 2009 edition where the author described a 4 piece torsion box workbench design that I've been wanting to build forever.

Imagine 2 +very well thought out+ sawhorses (collapsable but with relatively large surface areas) on which you can lay 1-3 8' long, 9" wide torsion box beams, either butted up against each other, or seperated slightly to allow legs etc to drop through.

I can't post links because it's all behind their subscription side, but it seems incredibly versatile and can be quickly taken down and leaned against a wall or moved around.

It's no 4x8 hard rock maple workbench, but it does seem awfully handy.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 24, 2012, 12:23:37 pm
What are you putting on this for vices?  Shoulder vice?  Tail Vice?  Any bench dogs going in?  They can be very useful.

I plan to follow the design exactly with a buried shoulder vise.  And if I can find the money another shoulder vise for the other axis.  Then I will add Bench Dog Holes. (Pairs seperated by 10" or so accross each axis).

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/dogs.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 24, 2012, 12:53:52 pm
3 sheets of mdf.  wow.  that sucker's not going anywhere.  make sure you build it where it's going to be used!  :cheers:

Actually the design for the top calls for 4 layers of MDF  made from the cutoffs of 3 sheets of MDF
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: drventure on April 24, 2012, 01:43:58 pm
The only prob with MDF for a bench that I have is if it gets wet/something accidentally spills on it.

The bench I mentioned earlier used a top of something called Homasote. It's softer than MDF and has more "grip".

But the interesting thing that he did, was he built the boxes such that the top layer (3/4" homasote) was screwed into an MDF underlay (countersunk screws) and could be easily removed and replaced once it had gotten chewed up/paint splattered/stained, whatever.

I thought that was a nice element. You can refresh your bench every so often without completely rebuilding the top.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on April 24, 2012, 04:46:42 pm
I have a sacrificial 1/4" masonite top on my bench.  I've never had to replace it even after many years.  I really like a maple topped bench but for me, doing dirty work, painting, soldering, metalworking, I need a more all purpose top that doesn't mind some abuse. 

Newtrix - good move on going with two rows of dog holes - I really wish I had done two instead of one. 
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 24, 2012, 04:50:10 pm
I have a couple boxes of engineered (fake) hard wood flooring.  I am considering switching the top layer to 1/2 MDF then adding the hard wood flooring which would be more spill resistant and clean up nicely, and be replaceable.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: drventure on April 24, 2012, 05:02:32 pm
Just man up and use your lap like me.

Esp with routing.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: EightBySix on April 24, 2012, 05:16:09 pm
I think its time to get off the sawhorses and garbage bins and make a nice flat stable place to work.

Your hobbies will love you for it. I made the same decision and built myself a bench before I started on my mame project. Your work will become much more enjoyable, better and safer.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: GregD on April 24, 2012, 06:17:08 pm
Two rows of dogs is the way to go.  Now you can sell your router and invest in a slew of Lie-Nielsen planes.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 24, 2012, 06:47:04 pm
Lets not be hasty, I love my router.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: wp34 on April 24, 2012, 11:22:50 pm
I have a couple boxes of engineered (fake) hard wood flooring.  I am considering switching the top layer to 1/2 MDF then adding the hard wood flooring which would be more spill resistant and clean up nicely, and be replaceable.  Any thoughts?

That's an interesting idea.  You could get that butcher block look as well you see on some tops.  Would you have to glue the flooring to the MDF?
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 25, 2012, 12:20:09 am
I was thinking minimal glue so I could scrape it off.  So I only had a couple hours today.  Added bottom shelf and began encasing the lower shelf because I need lockable storage for chemicals and flamables.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyMzguanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyMzkuanBn.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: kahlid74 on April 25, 2012, 09:13:53 am
Looks great man!  Love the design and craftsmanship so far.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: Dervacumen on April 27, 2012, 12:20:14 am
I too have a removable 1/4" masonite top I tapped in around the edges with 1" nails.  One of the reasons I chose masonite is that it will "grip" harder metal objects when you're banging away on them to free up a frozen nut or bolt.  It also semi-absorbs liquid (read: oil) spills so the top isn't slippery after you wipe up.  Also good for cutting on with a utility knife without dulling the blade too much.  This is why I wouldn't want a fake hardwood top.  Too hard.  I've had it for 7 or 8 years now, and it's not even close to needing replacement.  It's got a few stains, though.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 27, 2012, 11:44:03 am
is Masonite the same as 'Hardboard'?
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on April 27, 2012, 01:50:54 pm
Masonite is a brand of tempered hardboard that is fairly smooth/slick on one side.  So, yes. 
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 28, 2012, 11:19:34 pm
Saturday Update: Weekend workbench my Butt! I Assembled the MDF for the top today. (4 layers Glued and Screwed) also chamfered all the edges on the all the Douglas Fir.  I'm up to about $260.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNDAuanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNDEuanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNDIuanBn.jpg)

The thing is so heavy I had to use a car jack and a Piano dolly to move it with the top on.
The stock on the workbench is for the doors.  Maybe tomorrow, maybe not.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: EightBySix on April 29, 2012, 03:27:30 am
Heavy is good
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: Dervacumen on April 30, 2012, 09:12:21 am
I ended up putting locking wheels on the legs of mine so I could roll it outside if I ever felt the need to keep the sawdust from coating the whole garage.  Your bench looks great.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on April 30, 2012, 11:44:19 pm
First attempt at stub tennon and groove doors.  Not perfect, but acceptable.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNDMuanBn.jpg)

Nice to have a flat stable place to work.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 01, 2012, 10:35:16 pm
Mounted the doors.  
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNDUuanBn.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: kahlid74 on May 02, 2012, 08:20:31 am
WHew, 4 sheets of MDF.  That's crazyness.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on May 02, 2012, 10:17:09 am
From the pics it's two solid sheets with two layers of edge build up, but still, that thing's a monolith. 
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 02, 2012, 01:29:40 pm
Yeah its a tank and thats before I fill it with crap.  Just ordered 2 Bench vises http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002I2KFMG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002I2KFMG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00)  which I will bury behind the edging trim on each axis.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: yaksplat on May 03, 2012, 09:30:14 am
Moving my maple top bench is a pain, i can't imagine moving that around.

Just don't spill a drink on it.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: kahlid74 on May 03, 2012, 02:14:39 pm
Moving my maple top bench is a pain, i can't imagine moving that around.

Just don't spill a drink on it.

Or seal it before you spill said drink on it.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 06, 2012, 03:47:52 pm
I added the rear and one side of the edge banding.  I added a layer of masonite and brought the edges up to that level, so I will have a flush mounted, replaceable layer of hardboard.  I did'nt mount the side and other end because I'm waiting for two 6 1/2 inch vises that I will bury the rear jaw in.  They should be here tomorrow.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: EightBySix on May 06, 2012, 05:33:38 pm
 :pics
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 07, 2012, 01:03:42 am
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNDYuanBn.jpg)
It's not ready for its closeup, but if you insist.  This is the back corner showing the two sides that are done.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 09, 2012, 01:03:44 am
Buried the two winches in the edge banding and glued up the edges.  Mounted the winches and began preparing the Vise faces.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNTEuanBn.jpg)

Good thing the Masonite is a sacrificial, replaceable layer, because I already spilled glue on it. :(  Lots more bench dog holes to drill.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: kahlid74 on May 09, 2012, 08:59:17 am
Looking good.  Still lots of work to do though! ;)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 10, 2012, 12:10:57 am
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNTQuanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNTMuanBn.jpg)
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNTIuanBn.jpg)

I chamfered the banding edges and Vice Faces.  I cut a few more holes till my spade bit quit.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on May 10, 2012, 08:58:58 am
did you get metal bench dogs with springs?  Mine has square holes and I've been making do with old dowels and offcuts for hmm . . . .11 years now.  I just keep four of them in the holes near the vise so I never have to actually take them out, I just pop them up. 
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 10, 2012, 10:41:26 pm
For now I'm going to make some simple dogs from dowling and square blocks,  the 3/4 hole is pretty standard for dogs these days, so If i find some I like I'll go with those.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 12, 2012, 01:11:38 am
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAyNTUuanBn.jpg)  Holes finished and Chamfered so they won't chip out.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: AlienInferno on May 12, 2012, 10:38:02 pm
Good job.  Very nice looking workbench.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: knave on May 16, 2012, 01:27:00 pm
This thread has inspired me. I've cut all my wood to size and am about to assemble a workbench based on this:

(http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/workshop/bench/wswbn40apr_basic_workbench.jpg)

I needed some space in the garage to work. Since I'm on a budget I went with these plans... (http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/workshop/bench/below20xl.html)modified it to be 8 ft long and 24" wide with six legs.
I set my bench height at 37 1/2 inches. Which felt the most comfortable for me to work either standing or sitting on a stool.
I also upgraded to 19/32 OSB and added additional support under the benchtop.

I spent $50 including screws on all the materials, plus I was additionally motivated to rebuild the second battery of my Ryobi tool set.

When I finish I'll post a pic. It's nothing nearly as fancy as what you've made but for my weekend projects and to keep my Garage organized, it's perfect.

Thank you!

Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 17, 2012, 02:09:55 am
Hey, that is a lot more than I've been building my projects on up untill now.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: knave on May 21, 2012, 04:15:02 pm
I finished my bench over the weekend. I'm really happy with it. Very sturdy and it fits in well. I have a small bench vice and a power strip to add yet but other than that it's ready for me to load up with my junk. Now I just have to see if I can keep it clutter free so it'a useable.  ;)

Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on May 22, 2012, 09:19:34 pm
Looking good :applaud: :applaud:
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on June 27, 2012, 04:05:16 pm
Now its time to start some built-in shelves.  The center opening is for a five foot stainless tool chest.  To the right of that a 4.5 ft Workbench with a pegboard backing for holding tools.  The left side is support free as the Garbage and Recycling bins go under it.  Eventually the shelves will likely have doors to match my workbench.
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/utf-8BSU1BRzAyODcuanBn.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: newtrix on July 04, 2012, 03:52:08 pm
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w186/newtrix_photos/SU1BRzAzMTYuanBn.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: darthpaul on July 29, 2012, 12:03:58 am
Now I just have to see if I can keep it clutter free so it'a useable.  ;)
I have never been able to solve that problem as of yet but now that I have begun turning my 14' x 14' Shed into a workshop, I may be able to keep my bench reasonably clear.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: darthpaul on August 25, 2012, 10:12:31 pm
It's not as pretty as yours but it was a budget build(still need to add another vise) and it's the quality of the work that comes off the bench that counts, right?

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=259702;image)

Also decided to add a little storage to my table saw, I used the pieces from a TV stand that I never put together.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=259700;image)
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: Woodshop Flunky on August 27, 2012, 11:43:33 am
I really like what youd did with your tablesaw.   :cheers:

I'm going to have to do something similar but mount my router in the extra cabinet space.  My garage/shop is just too crowded.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: darthpaul on August 31, 2012, 11:55:47 pm
I had already built a Router table(which is not done yet). I mounted it on wheels and made it the same height as the table saw to use it as an out feed table.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: Woodshop Flunky on September 05, 2012, 01:14:42 am
I have a router table that I use for outfeed, but my shop seems to be getting smaller and I need to make more room.

I'm not sure about the exact math... but I think I'm losing about 2sq ft of shop space each year of marriage.   :cry:
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: yaksplat on September 05, 2012, 08:28:36 am
I'm not sure about the exact math... but I think I'm losing about 2sq ft of shop space each year of marriage.   :cry:

I walled off my shop in the basement about 2 weeks after we bought the house.  I haven't lost any space yet.
Title: Re: Finally time for a real workbench.
Post by: kahlid74 on September 05, 2012, 02:39:11 pm
I'm not sure about the exact math... but I think I'm losing about 2sq ft of shop space each year of marriage.   :cry:

I walled off my shop in the basement about 2 weeks after we bought the house.  I haven't lost any space yet.

When we moved into this house the unfinished part of the basement became my workshop.  Since it's already walled off it's all good to go and if she ever needs anything back there she asks me and I go get it.  She'd flip if she saw that all her previous stuff is all crowded into a back corner.