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Title: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Donkbaca on January 11, 2012, 02:41:00 pm
Let me preface this by saying this i my opinion based on points I assigned in arbitrary categories to make it look objective

1. Street Fighter Alpha 3 - 8 million points
2. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - 7.5 million points
3. Pole Position -60 points
4. Derby Owners Clubl - 12 points
5. Centipede - Negative 6 points

Let me explain

Street fighter is a fighting game, and fighting is a sport - Boxing, MMA, Kick Boxing, Wrestling, etc.  So therefore I am calling this a sports game

Some might say TMNT is a beat 'em up, but you fight in it, and as per above fighting is a sport, so that's why I included it here.

Pole position is in because racing cars is a sport

Derby Owners Club is in, because the cabinet is sweet and horse racing is a sport

Centipede is in because it is played with a trackball, and most sports are played using a ball, so playing Centipede is a sport.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Nephasth on January 11, 2012, 02:42:03 pm
 :laugh2:
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2012, 02:43:19 pm
Oh, I thought you were being serious, but I now I see what you are doing.

FWIW:

1. NBA Jam
2. High Impact Football
3. NHL Open Ice
4. Iron Man Stewart's Off Road
5. Centipede.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Malenko on January 11, 2012, 02:49:46 pm
3. NHL Open Ice

 :w00t

Fantastic game! I can never find the PCB for it though =(
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Vigo on January 11, 2012, 02:50:54 pm
What no Salary Man Kintarou? That's obviously a sports game because it is about a man competing for a salary, and sports are all about competition.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Donkbaca on January 11, 2012, 02:52:13 pm
You forgot your point totals and I will let you know that I considered these but ultimately decided not to include them because they don't fit my defintion of a sport

1 - NBA Jam is DQ'ed because of the computer assist that basically starts screwing you and cheating you when you are way ahead.  That keeps it from being a sport and makes it more like making money and paying taxes so I consider it a financial simulator

2 - High Impact Football is out because Super HIgh Impact is better, and when you say football, most of the world thinks soccer so I excluded it for the sake of clarity, its hard to pick a best sports game, when the name football confuses half the world.

3 - NHL open ice is out because, just like NAB JAM it has CPU assistance

4 - Off Road is out because in my mind its more of a driving game.  Driving is not a sport.

5 - Centipede you got that one right

Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Nephasth on January 11, 2012, 02:57:32 pm
What about MJ's Moonwalker? Moonwalking = Freestyle Walking = Freerunning = Parkour. Parkour has nifty tricks like skateboarding, and skateboarding can be a competitive sport... So, moonwalking is a sport.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: opt2not on January 11, 2012, 02:59:25 pm
:lol Oh Donk...so transparent. :D
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Donkbaca on January 11, 2012, 03:01:17 pm
I will allow moonwalker.  As an added bonus, you can turn into a badass robot, which has nothing to do with sports, but is enough for it to be on my best sports list, because its my list and my opinion.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Malenko on January 11, 2012, 03:02:25 pm
3 - NHL open ice is out because, just like NAB JAM it has CPU assistance


You shut your whore mouth about NHL Open Ice, and CPU assistance can be turned off in the operator menu.

Why isnt arkanoid at the top of your sports list? Uses a ball and a paddle.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: codefenix on January 11, 2012, 03:21:38 pm
4 - Off Road is out because in my mind its more of a driving game.  Driving is not a sport.

It's clear by now that you're lampooning pinzach's "top" lists.  But as long as we're on the topic of "what is a sport", you did say Pole Position counts.  So should Off Road in that case.

Unless by some bizarre leap driving != racing.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: BadMouth on January 11, 2012, 03:29:35 pm
Shooting and Racing are sports.

The competitions involving balls are just games.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Green Giant on January 11, 2012, 03:46:48 pm
Centipede is in because it is played with a trackball, and most sports are played using a ball, so playing Centipede is a sport.
What a classic fat kid argument.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: yotsuya on January 11, 2012, 03:48:45 pm
Centipede is in because it is played with a trackball, and most sports are played using a ball, so playing Centipede is a sport.
What a classic fat kid argument.


 :applaud:
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Donkbaca on January 11, 2012, 05:08:24 pm
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You shut your whore mouth about NHL Open Ice, and CPU assistance can be turned off in the operator menu.

If the operator can openly change the rules, that just furthers my point that this more like taxes than a sport

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Why isnt arkanoid at the top of your sports list? Uses a ball and a paddle.
Ummm... because I hate arkanoid?  Plus its one player, where you are battling a wall.  In real life people that play against walls always lose, and its sad to watch.

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It's clear by now that you're lampooning pinzach's "top" lists.  But as long as we're on the topic of "what is a sport", you did say Pole Position counts.  So should Off Road in that case. Unless by some bizarre leap driving != racing.

Oh whatever do you mean!  I am simply stating my opinion, which authoritatively as good as anyone elses, which will provide MAME noobs some advice.  The next time someone thinks, "man are there ANY good sports games on MAME?" They can search for top 5 sports games and this list will help them.

Here is the distinction between pole position and off road - off road is a DRIVING game because its on dirt and I have never seen that sort of "racing" on tv.  They have open wheel racing all the time on tv.  But really a big distinction is the fact that you can buy stuff to upgrade your truck in offroad, that makes it sort of a "buying game with RPG elements" genre in my book.  Its close to being a sports game, but nowhere near as close as Moonwalker IMHO.


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Shooting and Racing are sports.

Hmmm... This is true. Anything you suggest should be in the list?  Come to think of it, House of the Dead and Time Crisis are good shooting games, maybe they should be on my sports list too.

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What a classic fat kid argument.
I think fat kids are great at arguing, being fat, they don't have the capability of being good at much else, and with all the eating they do, they obviously know how to use their mouths...
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Grimoz on January 11, 2012, 05:22:54 pm
1. NBA Jam TE
2. NFL Blitz
3. Virtua Tennis
4. Decathlete
5. WWF Wrestlefest
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Donkbaca on January 11, 2012, 05:38:34 pm
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I like that one where a bunch of grown men chase something around.

Is that the one of those weird Japanese adult games?
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Le Chuck on January 11, 2012, 05:47:09 pm
1) I'm Sorry - a gabillion.  You jump, punch, wave a fan (women's gymnastic athletic event I think) and Michael Jackson moonwalks throughout.
2) Goal Goal Goal - 350 billion. 
3) Puzzli - 13.1 million, fishing... hello!
4) Super Dodge Ball - 8 for the NES version, 800,000 for the Arcade
5) Marble Madness - 1, it's a ball, played with another ball... I feel filthy.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Malenko on January 12, 2012, 07:46:06 am
In real life people that play against walls always lose, and its sad to watch.

I guess you missed that epic game where Venus and Serena Williams DESTROYED the Berlin Wall :)
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Donkbaca on January 12, 2012, 11:21:30 am
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1) I'm Sorry - a gabillion.  You jump, punch, wave a fan (women's gymnastic athletic event I think) and Michael Jackson moonwalks throughout.

I am D-Q ing it.  For one Womens gymnastics is not a sport, its an excuse for dirty old men to watch 14 year flexible girls in leotards.  PLus, I think we already have Michael Jackson covered with Moonwalker, don't want to over Michael Jacksonify it

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2) Goal Goal Goal - 350 billion. 

For one, I think Super Sidekicks is better, and for 2 I am going to have leave it off due to the soccer/football/futball mess and confusion it creates

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3) Puzzli - 13.1 million, fishing... hello!

This one is in, but barely.  At first I was going to ding it because fishing is a sport, but its also something people do for food, the distinction is that in the sport they release the fish.  In this game, he sort of releases the fish, so I will allow it.

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4) Super Dodge Ball - 8 for the NES version, 800,000 for the Arcade

Damn I love this game!  I really have nothing negative to say about it.

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5) Marble Madness - 1, it's a ball, played with another ball... I feel filthy
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DQ.  In a sport you play with a ball, you don't pretend you are the ball.  This is more like a ball simulator than a sports game
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: bkenobi on January 12, 2012, 01:43:35 pm
Your list is incomplete because it misses one of the most important sports games of all times...


PacMan.  It's all about competitive eating.  It's also somewhat of a racing game in that you are racing the ghosts.  It does have a bit of an RPG element in that you can upgrade your character via the power pills, but those are a temporary item so they should be acceptable.
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Nephasth on January 12, 2012, 01:53:36 pm
Ok, now this is just getting reDonkulous... :lol
Title: Re: 5 best sports games ever
Post by: Vigo on January 12, 2012, 02:06:24 pm
Your list is incomplete because it misses one of the most important sports games of all times...


PacMan.  It's all about competitive eating.  It's also somewhat of a racing game in that you are racing the ghosts.  It does have a bit of an RPG element in that you can upgrade your character via the power pills, but those are a temporary item so they should be acceptable.

Also keep in mind that PacMan was originally Puck Man, as in hockey puck. The game was obviously inspired by failed sport of 'Maze hockey'. Obviously it was as much of a failed sport as XFL or Slamball, but a sport nonetheless.