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Title: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on September 19, 2003, 08:53:50 pm
Due to a few different reasons (spare time/awaiting parts/moving house) I
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: TheTick on September 20, 2003, 12:38:00 am
Real slick looking.

Controller and the buttons translucent blue? Nice subtle contrast.
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Post by: OSCAR on September 20, 2003, 01:59:54 am
I like it!  All that black & chrome trim reminds me of a '59 Caddy.

Just add some tail fins and a rear view mirror to hang your fuzzy dice to your cocktail, and you are set!  ;)

Seriously, very cool idea!

Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: hooded_paladin on September 20, 2003, 02:13:30 am
where do you get a translucent blue joystick?  that looks SOOO nice.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on September 20, 2003, 04:45:19 am
where do you get a translucent blue joystick?  that looks SOOO nice.

I've seen them here members.aol.com/n2new/percussion.htm (http://members.aol.com/n2new/percussion.htm), but there may be other places.
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Post by: CitznFish on September 20, 2003, 03:37:52 pm
so no vertical games?? I'm assuming there is a CP on the other side for player 2? switching seats on a cocktail game is a pain in the butt..  I love the design though!
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on September 20, 2003, 04:41:46 pm
so no vertical games?? I'm assuming there is a CP on the other side for player 2? switching seats on a cocktail game is a pain in the butt..  I love the design though!

Yeah there will be vertical games on there, but its just geared towards horizontals. There is another CP on the other side for two player (alternative turn) games.

I'm also toying with the ideal of making the second cp removable on a cable so it can be used as a hand/lap controller on the other side for two player simultaneous games. But I think I may drop this feature as I want the cabinet to look as professional as possible and not that I
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Post by: DaveMMR on September 20, 2003, 10:22:14 pm
I love the look of that - definately one of the sleekest cabs ever designed.  It's something that won't stick out in a living room.

If I ever finish my upright (slow going -- I'm pathetic with a circular saw and money's a little tight right now) I'm definately aiming for a cocktail for my next project.  So when you work on this, let us know how it goes, as it's defintely an inspirational piece.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: kspiff on September 21, 2003, 05:15:48 am
Hm.. so you're going to have one CP on only one of the vertical sides?  But when you put vertical games in cocktail mode they flip when they alternate between players.. it just seems like doing it this way kills half the charm/authenticity of having a cocktail..?

Oh, well.. real cocktails don't generally have control panels on adjoining sides either, I guess :P.. as a plus, I'm thinking it would slide into a corner nicely.

PS, though it looks like it would blend in well in a home environment as is.. LOL, that thing looks like a generic video poker with the gold t-molding and no art :o
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on September 21, 2003, 06:20:17 am
Hm.. so you're going to have one CP on only one of the vertical sides?  But when you put vertical games in cocktail mode they flip when they alternate between players.. it just seems like doing it this way kills half the charm/authenticity of having a cocktail..?

Nope never side that, both the CPs are on opposite horizontal sides. And as I said in my original post this cocktail cabinet is aimed at horizontal games (and those that are 2-player alternative turn will flip).

Oh, well.. real cocktails don't generally have control panels on adjoining sides either, I guess :P.. as a plus, I'm thinking it would slide into a corner nicely.

Again never said that (which thread have you been reading?).  ::)

PS, though it looks like it would blend in well in a home environment as is.. LOL, that thing looks like a generic video poker with the gold t-molding and no art :o

Gold t-molding? Nope its chrome as mentioned above. There is some art, just very simple,  I would have thought it would have fitted in a home environment if it comes out like illustrated above, a bright coloured cabinet with several multi-coloured characters plastered over it won
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Post by: Edgedamage on September 21, 2003, 02:06:03 pm
That cocktail cab looks dynamite!!
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: mpm32 on September 22, 2003, 03:25:28 pm
Is that real or an illustration?  If it's just an illustration, you kick ass.  Hell if it's real you kick ass.  Nice job.  
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: pathdoc2 on September 22, 2003, 03:40:13 pm
I love it.  Looks killer.
My upright cocktail was going to look alot like that.  As I was building I realized I didn't like looking down and found the upright position suited me better.  
Again, beautiful concept.
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Post by: GSXRMovistar on September 22, 2003, 05:21:55 pm
Is that real or an illustration?  If it's just an illustration, you kick ass.  Hell if it's real you kick ass.  Nice job.  

Nope not real (yet), just a mock up done in 3DS Max.

Thanks for the comments, I
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Post by: kspiff on September 24, 2003, 05:46:27 am
Woops!  You're right, I didn't see all those captions.. must have been blinded by all that gold t-molding ::)

Still, though, now I'm stumped.. no vertical games.. on a cocktail.. head.. pressure.. immense hurting..

But seriously, I can't think of any horizontal games that alternate like that either.. I don't recall ever playing any horizontal cocktail games in the wild, at any rate, and never had interest to check MAME.  Have you checked MAME on that one?  How many are there? ???
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: paigeoliver on September 24, 2003, 06:24:24 am
A lot of the mid 80s conversion games had dip settings for single or dual controls, cocktail or upright. But, a lot of those games were vertical.

Only horizontal cocktail I ever saw in the wild was an Asteroids.

What I am wondering about is the six button layout. The only 6 button games are two player simultaneous fighters, which are not suited for that cabinet.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on September 24, 2003, 06:39:24 am
Still, though, now I'm stumped.. no vertical games.. on a cocktail.. head.. pressure.. immense hurting..
I'm not going to be building this cocktail to appeal to the masses, its for running some of my personal favs, which in this case are mid-eighties horizontals. But just because its a horiztontal setup doesn't mean vertical games can't be played  ::)

But seriously, I can't think of any horizontal games that alternate like that either.. I don't recall ever playing any horizontal cocktail games in the wild, at any rate, and never had interest to check MAME.  Have you checked MAME on that one?  How many are there? ???

I remember that when I used to play Wonder Boy and Shinobi on a cocktail cab they were setup to flip, not sure if that was a hack but I guess it could be done in Mame also.

What I am wondering about is the six button layout. The only 6 button games are two player simultaneous fighters, which are not suited for that cabinet.

Putting six buttons on the player one panel just gives the option of playing a few other games if the mood takes me.  :)

Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: kspiff on September 24, 2003, 09:31:34 am
True.. I just can't stand scaled vertical games anymore.. not sure when it happened, it just looks too weird on account of the scanline orientation.  I've been hanging around my restoration projects and arcades again too much :-X

In retrospect, though, I suppose horizontal games on a vertical monitor would be much worse :P
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Post by: F|end on September 24, 2003, 02:10:47 pm
I'm with everyone here!

Why spend so much money when you have the accuracy to do best!

The cab has a really slick looking and it looks foward to win a Mamey! ;D

Congrats man!
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Post by: RedSquirrel on September 24, 2003, 05:02:24 pm
yah the only thing i dont like about cocktail cabs is that i dont like the way you have to stare straight down, i prefer the upright cabs because of this.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: PaulT on September 24, 2003, 05:32:08 pm
Shinobi and wonderboy flip in cocktail.
sweet design for the cocktail.
have you looked at http://www.digitaltables.co.uk/pictures.htm (http://www.digitaltables.co.uk/pictures.htm) for further inspiration they look cool.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on September 24, 2003, 06:07:44 pm
Thanks for the link, hadn't seen that site before. I like the legs on those tables but not too sure about the exsposed PC front. But
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: Edgedamage on September 24, 2003, 07:34:21 pm
The only horizontal games I know that flip for player two are: defender / stargate / robotron / bubbles. But the way these games enabled cocktail mode was by removing "W-1" jumper from the interface board. I don't know how mame would be able to emulate this feature. ???
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: Sasquatch! on September 24, 2003, 08:36:51 pm
That is slick GSXR!  I await seeing the actual build!
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: RetroBorg on September 25, 2003, 06:47:55 am
The only horizontal games I know that flip for player two are: defender / stargate / robotron / bubbles. But the way these games enabled cocktail mode was by removing "W-1" jumper from the interface board. I don't know how mame would be able to emulate this feature. ???

I'm sure there are many more horizontal games that flip for cocktail mode than just those, how about Rally X, Missile Command (though no spinner on this cabinet) Moon Patrol, River Patrol, Berzerk, Track and Field and Wonder Boy just to name a few.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: soslo on October 10, 2003, 10:26:46 am
Any updates? This cab looks amazing...
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on October 11, 2003, 05:58:35 pm
Nothing as yet, In fact I've not been able to make any progress on my upright either. In the middle of moving house at the moment so the projects have gone on hold. But the good news is that the new place will have an area were I can work on this stuff when ever I want so things will speed up loads. At the moment I have to unpack tools etc each time I want to do anything.
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Post by: greeze on November 03, 2003, 09:00:39 am
I'm annoyed that you're passing this design off as your own, both in these forums and on your website. You could at the very least fully acknowledge the real source of your 'inspiration'.
 
Please be advised that we have patents pending on the designs of our cabinets (Cocktail & Deluxe) and will enforce any infringement legally if required.

Simon
www.arcadetimewarp.com (http://www.arcadetimewarp.com)
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: tmasman on November 03, 2003, 09:14:02 am
...after seeing a very nice one being sold at arcadetimewarp.com I got thinking. Whilst I liked their cabinet there is no way in the world that I would pay
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Post by: SirPeale on November 03, 2003, 09:44:33 am
Agreed, tmasman.  As long as he's not selling these cocktail based on their design, there isn't a thing they can do about it.
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Post by: Nailz on November 03, 2003, 11:02:58 am
I'm annoyed that you're passing this design off as your own, both in these forums and on your website. You could at the very least fully acknowledge the real source of your 'inspiration'.
 
Please be advised that we have patents pending on the designs of our cabinets (Cocktail & Deluxe) and will enforce any infringement legally if required.

Simon
www.arcadetimewarp.com (http://www.arcadetimewarp.com)

You're off to a really good start at BYOAC....  already threatening legal action on someone who liked the look of your cab and wanted to make his own?

Nice that you have a link to ROM sites.  Oh and I'm sure that picture of the gal in the Union Jack bikini you took yourself and didn't find on the internet right?

Welcome.....
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on November 03, 2003, 01:42:24 pm
Bit late in the day getting back to this, haven
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Post by: Pixelhugger on November 08, 2003, 02:51:37 am

But don
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on November 09, 2003, 05:49:35 am
Thanks for the comments  :), really wish I could work on my projects but the lack of a workshop and the weather here means nothing is getting done at the moment. Hopefully shouldn't be too long until we move into our new place where I'll have a fulltime workshop for this sort of stuff.  ;D
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Post by: Frostillicus on November 11, 2003, 09:51:06 am
wow, that looks incredible.  There is some serious skill with 3d programs on this board.  It's photorealistic.  That gold t-molding looks awesome - I'd love to make a cocktail that would look as good as that!  Keep us posted.  :)
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Post by: soslo on December 10, 2003, 03:44:06 pm
any word on this lately?
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Post by: GSXRMovistar on December 11, 2003, 02:18:08 pm
Afraid not, the house move has taken longer than expected, had a buyer drop out on us  >:(. But all back on track now and should be in the new place mid-end Jan and looking forward to a full-time workshop.

Also got a baby on the way now (Yet other cash consuming project!) so I'm planning to get the cabinets finished asap before the little one arrives.  ;D

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Post by: rchadd on April 18, 2004, 07:41:55 pm
have you found a source for those chrome legs? they look really cool.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on April 19, 2004, 03:02:42 pm
have you found a source for those chrome legs? they look really cool.
I spotted a nice set in B&Q a while back, in fact they had quite a few different crome ones so I don't think it will be too hard sourcing the.

Also just noticed my last post where I said I would be moved by mid-end Jan, LOL i wish, still waiting to move. I tell you once I finally do move I won't be doing it again in an hurry, I've had so many complications you wouldn't believe.  :-\
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Post by: SkateDetroit on April 19, 2004, 05:28:40 pm
Good luck with your move. Hope you get some free time soon! That cocktail is awesome. Bring it to life
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Post by: rchadd on April 19, 2004, 05:36:14 pm
do you intend to use black laminated MDF (or something like that?) - do you know where to get it in UK? I only see white melamine at my local DIY place.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on April 20, 2004, 02:57:57 pm
do you intend to use black laminated MDF (or something like that?) - do you know where to get it in UK? I only see white melamine at my local DIY place.
I may use laminate, depends on how pleased I am with the paint finish on my main cabinet. Your best bet for laminate is looking through the yellow pages for local sheet plasctic specialists.
Title: timewarp to what planet?
Post by: rchadd on April 20, 2004, 05:43:18 pm
bloody hell just surfed over to that www.arcadetimewarp.com

what are they charging?

a 1982 Joust marquee for
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Post by: Matt, GoC on April 30, 2004, 11:16:08 am
You know, you gotta love people who see what great cabinets others have created, and then, rather than say: "Hey, I could make one of these to re-live my youth!", they spout: "Hey, I could make lots of these and sell them for serious cash!!!"  That Simon person amuses me.  While your vision of a cabinet looks like the ones that person is hawking,  if it's different enough in design, he can't even touch you with a 'suit.  In my honest opinion, I think the arcade time warp cabinet looks kind of gawdy and cheap.  It doesn't even have controls for vertical games!  It's shown playing Pacman (a vertical game) in a horizontal orientation.   Wow.  I'm done here.

P. S.  If your actual cab looks half as good as the rendering, it'll be pretty sweet.  Good job.

Legal notice:  The opinions expressed in this "POST" are copyright and trademark of Apocalypse Never.  Patents are pending on said "POST".  All "IDEAS" are original and not based on any "IDEAS" already before thought up in the known universe.  Infringements on said "IDEAS" will be legally enforced.  Thats right, I said "Infringements will be legally enforced!"

I like that wording!

Quote
Please be advised that we have patents pending on the designs of our cabinets (Cocktail & Deluxe) and will enforce any infringement legally if required.

Shouldn't that be "...defend any infringement..." ?
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: Blakey on June 24, 2004, 09:54:36 am
GSXRMovistar, Your use of chrome moulding on your render inspired me to do likewise and ditch the foolish idea of using black.

Not long to completion now:
(http://www.arcadecontrols.com/files/Uploads/ahb-long_cp_in.jpg)

Not as slick as yours with its controller simplicity, but it's starting to look like a cabinet instead of a black box with holes in it.

Black laminate & brushed stainless & chrome moulding = win.
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on June 24, 2004, 10:43:12 am
That looks really sweet, have you got glass going on top?

Also where did you pick up your chrome t-molding?

I'm getting seriously annoyed now that I can't get on with any of my cabinet building :( But soon, hopefully soon..... ;D
Title: Re:Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: Blakey on June 24, 2004, 08:50:05 pm
Have ordered grey glass, was quoted AUD$277 by my local glazier, rang around and got it for $100! Will have it next week.

I ordered the t-moulding from Richard at t-molding.com, he sells it for $0.75/ft on his website, but auctions it at a starting price of $0.50/ft on ebay. So I bought 70' (40 for me, 30 for a friend) and had it shipped to Oz. Great guy to deal with.

The moulding still has a protective film on it, when it's removed it looks 10x as shiny!

Have to install one more control panel, then start wiring.

I saw legs like the ones in your render at Bunnings (mega hardware store in Oz) in various lengths, so they shouldn't be too hard to find at all.
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Post by: PedroSilva on August 11, 2005, 12:09:28 pm
The pictures don't show ... anybody knows why?
Any news on this project ?
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: dweebs0r on August 11, 2005, 12:39:09 pm
His webpage is down as well.

-D
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Post by: AlanS17 on August 11, 2005, 01:13:44 pm
His webpage is down as well.

-D
As is http://www.arcadetimewarp.com

I wonder what put them out of business. I bet it was customer service (or lack thereof). Hopefully it was a copyright lawsuit against them. That would truly be justice.
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: SNAAKE on August 11, 2005, 02:08:44 pm
Hey GSXRMovistar PM sent 8)
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: PedroSilva on August 12, 2005, 04:36:12 am
Does anybody has the photos of this cocktail?
I really love it and since I'm sinking about build one I would like to review them ...
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: AlanS17 on August 12, 2005, 11:48:05 am
Hey GSXRMovistar PM sent 8)
Well he hasn't posted in over a month, but it shows he was online earlier this week. He had some neat stuff. We'll see if he comes back to be a contributing member again.
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on August 12, 2005, 04:14:55 pm
Does anybody has the photos of this cocktail?
I really love it and since I'm sinking about build one I would like to review them ...
Just popping by, hard to find time for this hobby at the moment but still very interested.

My hosting for my website (www.mamenotover.com) died the other month and I've been trying to sort out a replacement. If I get some free time this weekend I'll stick these pics up on my personal webspace until I get something better in place.
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: PedroSilva on August 16, 2005, 05:10:00 am
Does anybody has the photos of this cocktail?
I really love it and since I'm sinking about build one I would like to review them ...
Just popping by, hard to find time for this hobby at the moment but still very interested.

My hosting for my website (www.mamenotover.com) died the other month and I've been trying to sort out a replacement. If I get some free time this weekend I'll stick these pics up on my personal webspace until I get something better in place.

OK.

I'll be looking forward.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on August 16, 2005, 05:42:54 pm
As promised (and late as usual):-

(http://www.gsxrmovistar.plus.com/Arcade/RetroCoctailConcept01.jpg)

(http://www.gsxrmovistar.plus.com/Arcade/RetroCoctailConcept02.jpg)

(http://www.gsxrmovistar.plus.com/Arcade/RetroCoctailConcept03.jpg)
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: PedroSilva on August 17, 2005, 04:50:27 am
Thanks ... this cocktail is by far the most beautifully I've seen ...
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: dakka68 on August 17, 2005, 07:08:20 am
GSXRMoviestar that is VERY classy, definately given me a few ideas for colour/theme.  Only criticism would be that its a bit square?  Top has nice flowing lines but the CP's and the sides just seem a little bit boxy. But dont worry about it (its probably the Oz in me), if it comes out like the pictures it will be Great!!

cheers
Dakka
Title: Re: Next project, the cocktail cabinet. (concept pics)
Post by: GSXRMovistar on August 19, 2005, 10:28:25 am
Did you actually build it ?
Afraid not, like all my other arcade related work its been put on hold. I've given up setting myself dates when I can continue with all this, but it will be done one day.  :)