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Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: GregD on December 30, 2011, 12:15:53 pm
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Did a search on the forum and can't find much information about GGG's Zippy sticks other than the fact they are clicky. Does anyone use them with GGG Smooth Joy Switches? They seem like a pretty good value for a ball top that has a choice of colors. Does the wood panel version (long) have too much throw? Thanks
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agree.
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They are cheap and small but they feel very "loose", I personally hate restrictor plates and I would never install them in a personal game I would keep.
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I have these joysticks in my cabinet, but I can't test them yet. I'm waiting on a new power supply. I bought 2, I have one set on 8-way and the other on 4-way.
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:laugh:Does anyone have experience with the smooth joy switches? Are they quiet?
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I have these joysticks in my cabinet, but I can't test them yet. I'm waiting on a new power supply. I bought 2, I have one set on 8-way and the other on 4-way.
Let us know how they work with robotron...
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I plan on putting these in my first attempt at building a control panel, I figure until I get some experience building that it doesn't make much sense to spend a fortune.
Interested in hearing more thoughts from owners of this joystick...
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I have one of these with the smoothjoy switches. They're very quiet, and I'm pretty happy with the stick - the only complaint is that the spring that keeps the stick from being pulled upward from the base is a little soft, so there's maybe 2mm of play if you're yanking on your stick (so to speak). That doesn't affect the feel or the ability to play games, so I'm pretty happy with it.
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Zippys work damn good for robotron and crazy climber. For 10 bucks or less, IMO they're the analog stick to beat, as far as bang for your buck.
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I don't think they are analog, I could be wrong though, but I doubt it.
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Zippys work damn good for robotron
I agree and disagree with VanillaGorilla. On robotron using my happ supers I'll often miss a diagonal. Diagonals are easier to hit with the rectangular restrictor on the Zippy. But now I seem to miss on up down left right more often. I was thinking of filing away a portion of the restrictor so I can "feel" the up down left right's better. Isn't it like $8.95?? cheap...
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I just got my Zippyy's and Happ Supers from GGG. My first impression is that the Zippyy's are a higher quality than the Happ's. Much heavier weight and they just feel like they are put together better. I plan on using the Zippyy for a dedicated 4-way but I am sort of wishing I got three of them instead of the Supers. Also, I got them with the smoothjoy switches installed and they are nearly silent.
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I plan on using the Zippyy for a dedicated 4-way
Have you tried it yet with the 4-way restrictor? I didn't like it - makes you move in a " + " pattern and you can't slide diagonally from one position to the next...
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Maybe I can shave a little plastic off that Cloverleaf. That should help it move from north/south to east/west.
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Maybe I can shave a little plastic off that Cloverleaf. That should help it move from north/south to east/west.
I thought of that too - let me know if you try it
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I did that with mine. It does help. But my experience was that the Zippy's best for 8-way games.
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I put two zippy's in my first cab & 1 in an xbox fight stick.
They worked great in 4 & 8 way mode, but they're not very practical to switch from one to the other.
Now I use JS01 Sanwa's, with the rotating restrictor plate on the bottom.
The joysticks feel better to use as you'd expect when they cost double the zippy's and they are heaps easier to switch from 4-8 way.
But if I never bought them, I'd still be happy with the zippys.
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they're not very practical to switch from one to the other.
Here's my sloppy Zippy restrictor mod:
I had a couple rare earth magnets laying around (diameter=1/2", height=1/8"):
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=178210;image)
I took off the top restrictor and trimmed away a little of the lower restrictor and stacked on 2 magnets each side:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=178212;image)
Set a screw on each magnet stack:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=178214;image)
Set the restrictor on, twist the screws to lock into place:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=178216;image)
I haven't had any issues - you'd think the restrictor was screwed in place. Makes for a quick changing plate if you can get under your panel easily.
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Wow, are rare earth magnets really that strong?
Off to ebay I go, thanks Spacedueler!
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Wow, are rare earth magnets really that strong?
Off to ebay I go, thanks Spacedueler!
The trick here is the 4 indexing tabs that the restrictor fits onto. The actuator has no downward forces on the restrictor - just lateral. It doesn't take much to keep it in place. But, yes, rare earths are quite impressive:
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Maybe I can shave a little plastic off that Cloverleaf. That should help it move from north/south to east/west.
btw - I trimmed that 4-way restrictor. Huge improvement!
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btw - I trimmed that 4-way restrictor. Huge improvement!
Let's see it. I was interested in that most.
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Let's see it. I was interested in that most.
Just shave those bumps off so the sides are straight in-between the corners...
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You can't hit the diagonals at all after that? I have a pair of these and really like them, but the + pattern drives me bonkers. That looks like an easy mod to do, I'll probably try it tonight. Good excuse to finally buy that dremel, too.
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I just shaved mine down as well. I like it.
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I've been playtesting the Zippy sticks for a week or so, and i'm very pleased with them for the price, though i may have to have a look at that restrictor plate mod ;D
Maybe one of you guys could help me out with something?
I want to swap the red balltops for a yellow ones, would a Seimitsu ball top fit straight on without any modding?
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Maybe one of you guys could help me out with something?
I want to swap the red balltops for a yellow ones, would a Seimitsu ball top fit straight on without any modding?
The Zippyy's use a Japanese standard 6mm thread, so yes, it should go right on.
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Thats great, thanks for the quick reply Randy :cheers:
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I like the Zippy sticks a lot, especially the ball tops :applaud: (BTW I'm not finished on my cabinet yet)
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9803/p1010029z.jpg)(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/3387/p1010028r.jpg)
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Just curious, are there any bat tops available for these? I didn't see an option on the GGG website. I did notice the omni 2 has it as an option, and I believe the omni uses 6mn threads too. I bought one anyway, with smooth joys, love it! Just would like to try a bat top. Great omjoystick for those on a budget! Will probably order 2 more soon!
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This thread inspired me to fire up the soldering iron and burn off those nubs:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/mbn32e.jpg)
I just rubbed the shaft of the soldering iron back and forth across the nub until it was smooth.
No issues with diagonals and it plays great now. I HIGHLY suggest you do this mod if you own one of these joysticks and intend to use it for 4 way control.
Agree 100%. I just bought a dremel to do this...first game of Donkey Kong after I got a personal best score. What a difference.
And no, I'm not sharing the score. I'm not that great at Donkey Kong.
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does anyone around here know a chinese supplier for the zippy shorthandle sticks ?
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I have a problem, I got 2 of these joysticks, but for some reason when I block in fighting games while holding back, the character doesn't keep blocking, just only for a few seconds than they just stand their. I'm not sure if anyone else has this problem. Its only with the left direction, same with player 2 except its with right instead. I'm trying to figure out if its the switches or some other problem with the wiring.
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Can anyone tell me if the zippys with long shaft would bottom mount w/o routing and still hhave enough shaft length in a 3/4 panel? Also is ok to just use coarse threaded wood screws to mount from underneath, or is it a must to use threaded inserts? I do need it to be sturdy as I have 2 kids, one of which could somehow break an anvil! I don't have a router, and its not in the budget to get one currently. Thanks for any input!
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I don't have a router, and its not in the budget to get one currently. Thanks for any input!
Depending on the material, a nice $20 set of chisels will get the job done if you need to recess something. I used MDF for my panel, and had to recess 2 joysticks. Chisels worked like a charm. Just need to take your time and be patient.
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This thread inspired me to fire up the soldering iron and burn off those nubs:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/mbn32e.jpg)
That looks, and I bet feels, nasty. I'm surprised at you, Jimbo.
Of course there's no issue with diagonals. Modded, the shape is just like the Sanwa 4-way restictor.
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I just rubbed the shaft back and forth until it was smooth.