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Title: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 18, 2011, 10:12:27 pm
I am trying to wire my arcade monitor to a 15 pin male to male D-Sub. Will it matter if the red wire which should go to pin number 1 touches pin number 2 slightly when I solder it?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 18, 2011, 10:42:32 pm
Soldering? Are you trying to hack a VGA cable or wire up an empty d-sub connector? I've got a couple to sell (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=115111.0) if your monitor's connector is the standard US variety like found on most Wells Gardners.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 18, 2011, 11:01:55 pm
Soldering? Are you trying to hack a VGA cable or wire up an empty d-sub connector? I've got a couple to sell (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=115111.0) if your monitor's connector is the standard US variety like found on most Wells Gardners.

I actually just realized that I misunderstood the instructions on how to hook up the monitor. I have a female to male adapter with 15 pins... Doh!
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 19, 2011, 11:11:27 am
So just to make sure I understand correctly, this is what I need to do it myself correct?:

http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=phoenixent&product_name=HWS3524 (http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=phoenixent&product_name=HWS3524)
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 19, 2011, 02:56:33 pm
Still not sure exactly what you're trying to do. Are you trying to make a VGA breakout cable? What make and model monitor are you working with?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 19, 2011, 05:18:27 pm
I want to do this:
http://arcadecontrols.com/arcade_pc2arcade.html (http://arcadecontrols.com/arcade_pc2arcade.html)

Monitor is WG 25k7197
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 19, 2011, 07:04:21 pm
All you need to do is find an old VGA cable and modify it, no soldering required. The ones I sell connect directly to your monitor, no messing around needed, plug and play. But it's not too hard to make your own if you have a set of terminal pin crimpers.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 19, 2011, 08:02:31 pm
I do have multiple cables laying around. How would one go about modifying one?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 19, 2011, 08:07:39 pm
Cut one end off. Strip the insulation off. Pinout the wires to find out which ones you need. And if you don't have the parts to build a connector for the monitor, you can solder the wire ends to the header, or if you have the old harness from the cabinet, splice the old monitor connector into the vga cable.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 19, 2011, 08:38:29 pm
Well, now I have a new problem that has got me worried. Last night when we tried this, we managed to make a green screen on the monitor. My fiancee's brother messed around with the control knobs and sometimes the screen would go completely black almost as if it were off. When the monitor was unplugged from the computer, it turned grey and black... Right now, I can not get it to display anything at all even though it was working fine before we adjusted the knobs last night. I am so frustrated now... I thought this would be completed three days ago. Can anyone try to help me with the newest monitor problem?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 19, 2011, 09:25:49 pm
I made something happen... This is when I first press power on the CPU and have the monitor already powered on...
Arcade problem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNzpfXn-pQ#)
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 20, 2011, 08:56:39 pm
What sync pins on the monitor have wires hooked up to them?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 20, 2011, 10:01:55 pm
What sync pins on the monitor have wires hooked up to them?

I have Red, Green, Blue, Ground (Black wire) and Composite (White). I cut open a VGA cable, but I have no clue what the different color wires mean, so the way it is hooked in that video is the way described in the previous link with the soldering.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Mac Green on December 20, 2011, 10:11:56 pm
Try this out it may help http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cga-Vga-Vga-Cga-Adapter-Converter-cga-vga-vga-cga-Arcade-Monitor-/110766292891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ca2f7f9b#ht_538wt_1185 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cga-Vga-Vga-Cga-Adapter-Converter-cga-vga-vga-cga-Arcade-Monitor-/110766292891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ca2f7f9b#ht_538wt_1185)
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 20, 2011, 10:55:57 pm
Try this out it may help http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cga-Vga-Vga-Cga-Adapter-Converter-cga-vga-vga-cga-Arcade-Monitor-/110766292891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ca2f7f9b#ht_538wt_1185 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cga-Vga-Vga-Cga-Adapter-Converter-cga-vga-vga-cga-Arcade-Monitor-/110766292891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ca2f7f9b#ht_538wt_1185)

Thanks for that, but if I end up buying something, it will probably be from Nepasth... It is the least I can do in return for him trying to help. That said, I would really like to do this myself so I can learn a bit and not have to wait for shipping. ;)
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 21, 2011, 02:16:07 am
Which pin do your have your composite sync signal connected to on the monitor's input header?

(http://www.pixelcanvas.com/pins.jpg)
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 21, 2011, 01:30:56 pm
Which pin do your have your composite sync signal connected to on the monitor's input header?

(http://www.pixelcanvas.com/pins.jpg)


Looks like -H.Sync

It had a great picture when the Tekken PCB was in there, but I sold the board last week.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 21, 2011, 04:32:05 pm
Ok, we have got bits and pieces of information here and there. In my B/S/T thread you said you are using a J-pac. If you are, you shouldn't need to hack or make your own cable, just use a VGA cable to go from your computer to your J-pac. You're composite sync is connected to -H Sync on the monitor, which should be fine. But what are you using for a video card? An ArcadeVGA? Or are you using Soft15khz?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 21, 2011, 05:43:00 pm
I am using Soft15khz, but I am not the one with a J-PAC.video card is an ATI Radeon HD 4830. In that YouTube video of my problem, I had the setting to 512x448.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 21, 2011, 06:47:18 pm
I am using Soft15khz, but I am not the one with a J-PAC.video card is an ATI Radeon HD 4830. In that YouTube video of my problem, I had the setting to 512x448.

Sorry for the confusion... Hmm, was that the best you could get the monitor? Have you tried with the resolution at 640x480?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 21, 2011, 07:09:20 pm
I am using Soft15khz, but I am not the one with a J-PAC.video card is an ATI Radeon HD 4830. In that YouTube video of my problem, I had the setting to 512x448.

Sorry for the confusion... Hmm, was that the best you could get the monitor? Have you tried with the resolution at 640x480?

No I hadn't tried that... I thought starting low was best? The best I could get with the monitor were those flashing colors, but Soft15khz wouldn't have had time to kick in yet. I had literally just pressed the power button when that started.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 22, 2011, 10:55:05 am
Also, is your composite sync wire connected to both pins 13 & 14 on your dsub connector?
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 22, 2011, 12:24:23 pm
Quote from: Nephasth link=topic=116706
.msg1237361#msg1237361 date=1324569305
Also, is your composite sync wire connected to both pins 13 & 14 on your dsub connector?

No... Just pin 13.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: Nephasth on December 22, 2011, 03:09:26 pm
That might be your problem, composite sync is H and V combined. Either connect pins 13 and 14 or run a wire from pin 14 to -V Sync on your monitor's input header (if it were me, I would run another wire).
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 22, 2011, 03:12:20 pm
That might be your problem, composite sync is H and V combined. Either connect pins 13 and 14 or run a wire from pin 14 to -V Sync on your monitor's input header (if it were me, I would run another wire).

Thank you! I will give it a try and let you know.
Title: Re: Monitor wiring-Quick Help!
Post by: honkey on December 22, 2011, 04:05:45 pm
Well, I tried it, but still same thing. It is like I see those flashing lights when the bios screen would normally display, and I thought that wasn't supposed to show up at all?