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Title: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 01, 2011, 03:32:34 pm
Here is my starting point:


(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=171919;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=171921;image)

Currently missing game PCB.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 01, 2011, 03:38:10 pm
To Do:
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Hoopz on September 01, 2011, 03:45:22 pm
Very nice pickup.  What's the status on the monitor?
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 01, 2011, 03:55:21 pm
Very nice pickup.  What's the status on the monitor?

Supposedly working.  Don't have a board yet to be able to check it.  Has some PP burn in, should look ok when on.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Nephasth on September 01, 2011, 04:40:42 pm
Have you seen these (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=197123)? Looks like there is still time to get in on one of them.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 01, 2011, 04:50:22 pm
Have you seen these (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=197123)? Looks like there is still time to get in on one of them.

What is it? I can't see that here at work.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Nephasth on September 01, 2011, 06:52:14 pm
Pole Position cockpit topper, but it also fits on uprights. Looks pretty sweet.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 01, 2011, 08:02:00 pm
Pole Position cockpit topper, but it also fits on uprights. Looks pretty sweet.

At home, can see it now.  If it said engine brake, and not foot brake, I might jump on that.  Someone has already asked about that being a possibility.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 09, 2011, 04:21:39 pm
If Im gonna convert my one to PPII, we might be trading more stuff
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 09, 2011, 04:31:45 pm
If Im gonna convert my one to PPII, we might be trading more stuff

Yeah, I am taking the PPII stuff off mine.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 09, 2011, 04:53:45 pm
If Im gonna convert my one to PPII, we might be trading more stuff

Yeah, I am taking the PPII stuff off mine.

you dont need a marquee or screen glass/bezel do ya? I have 2 marquees and 3 or 4 glass bezels. I'm shipping you a wheel next week anyway
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 09, 2011, 04:54:59 pm
If Im gonna convert my one to PPII, we might be trading more stuff

Yeah, I am taking the PPII stuff off mine.

you dont need a marquee or screen glass/bezel do ya? I have 2 marquees and 3 or 4 glass bezels. I'm shipping you a wheel next week anyway

I have the screen glass and marquee already.  Do you happen to have a good cardboard bezel that goes between the monitor and glass?  Mines a bit warped.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 12, 2011, 10:34:03 am
Update:

Looked inside the cabinet, the monitor has no chassis.   :badmood:  The guy did tell me that it had no boards, I just didn't think that included the monitor.  Oh well.  There is a guy selling complete working 19" monitors for cheaper than I can get a new chassis, so I think I'll go that route.

In the good news department, there are some parts on their way to me, courtesy of Malenko:

I also ordered a repro CPO from thisoldgame.com. 

Moving right along...   :applaud:
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 13, 2011, 01:58:35 pm
In the good news department, there are some parts on their way to me, courtesy of Malenko:
I'm just a faceless punk troll.
That stuff is due to arrive tomorrow, let me know when it gets there and if you still need a wheel or shifter (I have spares)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 14, 2011, 11:46:51 am
Sep 14, 2011 7:16 AM
On FedEx vehicle for delivery
PHOENIX, AZ


=)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 14, 2011, 11:47:39 am
Sep 14, 2011 7:16 AM
On FedEx vehicle for delivery
PHOENIX, AZ


=)

w00t!  Can't wait!
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 14, 2011, 04:24:49 pm
Delivered!!
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: yotsuya on September 14, 2011, 06:08:17 pm
Delivered!!

Pics or it didn't happen!
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 15, 2011, 12:12:48 pm
Delivered!!

Pics or it didn't happen!

Here (one of the PPI boardsets is in the cab already ;)):

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=172939;image)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 15, 2011, 03:50:58 pm
Ok... dilemma.

I plug in the PPI boardset and get this:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=172955;image)

When I plug in the PPII board, I get nothing but green.

The other PPI boardset has burnt pcb edge connectors and bent roms... so untested so far.

Also note, the monitor in this thing has no chassis, so I would need another 19" arcade monitor.

I have a 19" PC monitor, I could just dump a PC in this thing and go with shifter MAME. 

So... should I go with shifter MAME and a PC, or should I keep trying to repair these boards and hope for the best.  I know these boards can be a pain.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 15, 2011, 04:22:22 pm
at least get 1 set of boards working ;)

check the voltages and everything, I had no way to test the boards before I shipped them off, they may have been bad. Im sure with 2 sets of PP boards and your skills. you can get 1 working. Im currently looking into perhaps dropping a PC into 1 of my PPs, I think Im gonna sell the other one, especially if I got no working boards
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 15, 2011, 04:28:14 pm
I'm trying...

I noticed one of the ROM legs was broken off on the set I was testing, so I swapped it for the other PPI chip, get the same results. 

Hrmmmmm
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 15, 2011, 05:02:40 pm
 >:D >:D >:D

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=172967;image)

It's alive! Sort of...

I was able to play for like 5 minutes, then it glitched out again. 

I think I'm gonna stick with the PP boards now.  Do the 5V mod, the AR2 mod, and see what that gets me.  I noticed some corrosion on some of the ROM legs, so I'll remove them and clean them, too. 
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: opt2not on September 16, 2011, 01:53:37 pm
Awesome, getting close!

If cleaning those ROM legs doesn't fix the glitching, you can try replacing their sockets.  Old Atari boards are notorious for their cheap sockets...
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 16, 2011, 02:37:27 pm
Yeah, for the 5 minutes it ran, it played perfectly...  I was sad when it glitched out again.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: yotsuya on September 16, 2011, 02:47:58 pm
Yeah, for the 5 minutes it ran, it played perfectly...  I was sad when it glitched out again.

I bet. The sound of "Prepare to Qualify" warms my heart.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 16, 2011, 03:29:58 pm
Yay...

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=173013;image)

Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 16, 2011, 03:44:23 pm
So... 1 prob down...  just the boards to go, then all will be functional, and all that will be left is cosmetic.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=173015;image)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 16, 2011, 05:08:32 pm
I want that PPII stuff if you arent gonna use it, assuming you can get the PPII board runnin.
I sent you both PP1 sets, cause I figured worst case you can frankenstein one together =)

Both of those monitors work? I think ALL THREE I have are dead (1 DEFINITELY is, chassis is cracked, tube dont looks good, and theres a giant GAME OVER burn in , in the middle)

its a start, dont give up hope, we all believe in you =)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 16, 2011, 05:16:26 pm
Yup, both work, the blue is a little wonky on one, but the other is perfect.  $85 for the pair...

Oh, I'm not giving up...   :D

PP2 stuff?  Like bezel, marquee, etc?
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 16, 2011, 05:18:30 pm
Yeah, one of the PPI boards I've been scavenging parts off of, since it had the exploding battery problem, and there is corrosion everywhere in like a 4 inch circle. 
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 16, 2011, 08:45:22 pm
So, I've done the sense mod on both AR2 boards, I've done the mod where you connect up all the +5V test points and all the GND test points for better power distribution, and adjusted the AR2 until the voltage reads 5.0 at the board.

Still nothing.

How do I even know if the AR2 boards are any good?
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 17, 2011, 08:59:31 am
I can send you 3 AR2s, I'd just need 1 working one back  :lol
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 19, 2011, 11:34:46 am
Think I may get the power supply rebuild kit from Bob Roberts, along with an extra big blue, plus the the rebuild kits for both the AR boards.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: Malenko on September 19, 2011, 09:04:54 pm
Think I may get the power supply rebuild kit from Bob Roberts, along with an extra big blue, plus the the rebuild kits for both the AR boards.

so you wanna do me one too? I can send you all the power junk for 2 or 3 cabs worth, I just need 1 back =)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 20, 2011, 09:38:28 am
Think I may get the power supply rebuild kit from Bob Roberts, along with an extra big blue, plus the the rebuild kits for both the AR boards.

so you wanna do me one too? I can send you all the power junk for 2 or 3 cabs worth, I just need 1 back =)

Sure thing.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 20, 2011, 09:40:53 am
Although... I'm debating with myself on how original I want to keep it...

It is possible to go with a switching power supply and get rid of the AR boards as well.  You would just need a couple of audio amps to replace them, similar to what whammoed did:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=71610.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=71610.0)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 20, 2011, 10:06:25 am
Look what arrived yesterday:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=173088;image)
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: yotsuya on September 20, 2011, 10:10:32 am
Nice. How are you fixing the broken corner piece on the left-hand front side?
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 20, 2011, 10:45:17 am
Nice. How are you fixing the broken corner piece on the left-hand front side?

Going to glue the piece back, and use bondo to fill in the gap.  I'll probably end up getting the repro side art in the end, too.  This thing is gonna be minty when I'm done!  :applaud:
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: yotsuya on September 20, 2011, 01:01:30 pm
Nice. How are you fixing the broken corner piece on the left-hand front side?

Going to glue the piece back, and use bondo to fill in the gap.  I'll probably end up getting the repro side art in the end, too.  This thing is gonna be minty when I'm done!  :applaud:

Sweet. As I pretty much played the game at Peter Piper Pizza, you might want to smear some tomato sauce on the wheel and shifter to get that air of authenticity!
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 20, 2011, 01:02:57 pm
Nice. How are you fixing the broken corner piece on the left-hand front side?

Going to glue the piece back, and use bondo to fill in the gap.  I'll probably end up getting the repro side art in the end, too.  This thing is gonna be minty when I'm done!  :applaud:

Sweet. As I pretty much played the game at Peter Piper Pizza, you might want to smear some tomato sauce on the wheel and shifter to get that air of authenticity!

Remind me not to let you play it when I'm done...  >:D
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 21, 2011, 02:38:14 pm
Well, after smoking the big resistor on one of the AR boards while adjusting to get 5.0 volts, I've decided to go the switching power supply route with a couple of mono sound amps.

So no more finicky Atari power system and big blues...
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: yotsuya on September 21, 2011, 02:55:05 pm
Quote
Sweet. As I pretty much played the game at Peter Piper Pizza, you might want to smear some tomato sauce on the wheel and shifter to get that air of authenticity!

Remind me not to let you play it when I'm done...  >:D

But.... I'll even buy the pizza!  Can we at least spill soda on your carpet for that sticky walking feel? :laugh:
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on September 21, 2011, 02:59:12 pm
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Sweet. As I pretty much played the game at Peter Piper Pizza, you might want to smear some tomato sauce on the wheel and shifter to get that air of authenticity!

Remind me not to let you play it when I'm done...  >:D

But.... I'll even buy the pizza!  Can we at least spill soda on your carpet for that sticky walking feel? :laugh:

Haha...  no, no soda on the carpet.  I do plan on getting some blacklight carpet for the gameroom, though.
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: yotsuya on October 13, 2011, 01:45:15 am
How's the work coming on this?
Title: Re: YAPP (Yet Another Pole Position)
Post by: HaRuMaN on October 13, 2011, 09:46:15 am
How's the work coming on this?

I now have the switching power supply, and the two audio amp kits needed to replace ALL of the Atari power setup.  No more big blue, no more AR boards.   >:D

Now I just have to put it together and hope that's what was causing the board glitch.   :dunno