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Title: Using Ultralux pushbuttons without springs. Problem?
Post by: blind_dado on August 23, 2011, 02:47:24 am
I'm using Ultralux pushbuttons with the standard supplied E-Switch microswitches.  The combination is a bit stiff for my tastes, but if I take the spring out of the pushbutton and use only the force provided by the microswitch, it feels great. 

Does anyone foresee a problem with this setup?  I figure the microswitches are subjected to nearly identical forces every time they're pushed with or without the pushbutton spring, so I don't see a problem, but maybe I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Using Ultralux pushbuttons without springs. Problem?
Post by: TopJimmyCooks on August 23, 2011, 10:15:36 am
I'd try it for a while and see how it goes - see if the buttons still return crisply after some use, etc.  even if you wear out a microswitch or two and need to replace them it's a $2 experiment.  I would go with an E-switch or even heavier actuating switch for maximum return spring pressure.  I came across some cheap used switches in a junk cab that must be over 100g pressure to trip, they're like bricks.

I bet some of the pushbutton experts/dealers like RandyT, Andy Warne and the Paradise guys have experience with this and could say if there's any reason not to do it. 
Title: Re: Using Ultralux pushbuttons without springs. Problem?
Post by: AndyWarne on August 24, 2011, 03:42:19 am
I'm using Ultralux pushbuttons with the standard supplied E-Switch microswitches.  The combination is a bit stiff for my tastes, but if I take the spring out of the pushbutton and use only the force provided by the microswitch, it feels great. 

Does anyone foresee a problem with this setup?  I figure the microswitches are subjected to nearly identical forces every time they're pushed with or without the pushbutton spring, so I don't see a problem, but maybe I'm missing something.

There will be no problem with this. But we dont normally supply these with E-Switches, they come with our own-brand Ultimarc switches. So not sure what has happened here.

Andy
Title: Re: Using Ultralux pushbuttons without springs. Problem?
Post by: blind_dado on August 24, 2011, 09:44:49 am
My mistake; the buttons did come with Ultimarc branded switches.  But that's what I meant by "standard supplied," i.e., the ones that you normally send.

But your website says "New! We now supply E-Switch microswitches with all pushbuttons (Happ-sourced)"  so I thought that calling them "standard supplied E-Switch microswitches" was accurate.  Is the website description not correct?

In any event, thanks for confirming that I can use them as I described.  Great buttons.
Title: Re: Using Ultralux pushbuttons without springs. Problem?
Post by: AndyWarne on August 25, 2011, 04:56:43 am
The Happ buttons which we sell come with the E-Switches. I will need to correct that on the website as it is misleading.

Andy
Title: Re: Using Ultralux pushbuttons without springs. Problem?
Post by: notroubleclubber on August 26, 2011, 08:29:43 am
I might try this as I'm finding them a bit hard.
How do u take the springs out?