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Title: Anyone Know where to get this button? *FOUND em for real this time*
Post by: Bender on July 09, 2011, 10:14:31 am
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=169389;image)

Anyone Know where to get this button?
I bought a few of these from 1-UP a while back and he had them to replace the thumb buttons on triggersticks
I've been using them for my micro projects and some people have been asking me where to get them, and I have no clue :dunno
Plus I'd like to get a few more myself

Thanks for any info!

Bender
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: boardjunkie on July 09, 2011, 10:55:57 am
Those are the same buttons as used on Midway cocktail games as start buttons.
http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=PB903 (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=PB903)
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2011, 10:58:13 am
Those are the same buttons as used on Midway cocktail games as start buttons.
http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=PB903 (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=PB903)


Close Bob, no Seger.

The one in Bender's pic is SPST, the one at Mike's Arcade is SPDT.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: ed12 on July 09, 2011, 11:10:58 am
if it fit's the hole
it will work fine
spdt is 1 side open 1 side colsed
the center contact just move's between them

ed
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: boardjunkie on July 09, 2011, 11:15:57 am
Right....they'll work just fine. Plus, those are made by Switchcraft so they are high quality.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2011, 11:26:30 am
The one at Mike's Arcade has a diameter of 15/32". What's the diameter on yours, Bender?
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Bender on July 09, 2011, 11:38:25 am
Saw those in my search, but my issue with those is that it appears to be a translucent red plunder and I'm looking for opaque black
the body diameter is the same 15/32
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: boardjunkie on July 09, 2011, 11:47:03 am
I may have some black ones in my parts stash. How many do you need?
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Bender on July 09, 2011, 11:53:19 am
I may have some black ones in my parts stash. How many do you need?

well I'd probably want 10 or so (how may would you be willing to part with?
but I'd really like to be able to find a source
so I can point people to em
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2011, 11:56:37 am
Here we go. (http://switchcraft.com/ProductSummary.aspx?Parent=594)
(http://switchcraft.com/Product_Thumbnails_Large/913x.jpg)

That will get you a little closer. $5.94 each on mouser.com, but they only have 2 in stock. But Switchcraft has a long list of distributors.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Bender on July 09, 2011, 12:00:27 pm
I was just posting that...

Can anyone tell me what the difference between 1-A, 1-B, 1-C, or 1-D switching is?

Thanks everyone! :cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2011, 12:02:06 pm
http://switchcraft.com/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf (http://switchcraft.com/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf)

Lower left has schematics for 1-C and 1-D.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: boardjunkie on July 09, 2011, 12:06:31 pm
Oh...I don't have that many I know for sure. I prob'ly have around 8 or 10 in a mixture of black and red. I don't even remember where they came from....just misc NOS stuff I obtained many years ago.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Bender on July 09, 2011, 12:07:23 pm
http://switchcraft.com/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf (http://switchcraft.com/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf)

Lower left has schematics for 1-C and 1-D.

Can you explain the practical difference to me
Will they both work as a momentary pushbuttons?

Looks like this is the best price $3.48 with no minimum quantity (http://www.cbcdirect.com/direct/Products/ProductListDetail.aspx?pik=1127885)
EDIT: argg, not so fast, they have some involved registration process, god I hate that $#!+


Oh...I don't have that many I know for sure. I prob'ly have around 8 or 10 in a mixture of black and red. I don't even remember where they came from....just misc NOS stuff I obtained many years ago.

Thanks so much!!
I'll probably order some from the above link, and you can keep up your stash, never know when you might need em!

Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2011, 12:14:51 pm
1-C looks like it is your standard SPDT (ON-ON switch) just like an arcade pushbutton microswitch, 1-D looks like two posts are wired together giving you a SPST (OFF-ON switch) with three switch posts instead of two (I may be wrong on this, never seen a switch set up like this before). But both are momentary switches.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Minions on July 09, 2011, 12:30:05 pm
http://switchcraft.com/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf (http://switchcraft.com/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf)

Lower left has schematics for 1-C and 1-D.

Can you explain the practical difference to me
Will they both work as a momentary pushbuttons?

Looks like this is the best price $3.48 with no minimum quantity (http://www.cbcdirect.com/direct/Products/ProductListDetail.aspx?pik=1127885)
EDIT: argg, not so fast, they have some involved registration process, god I hate that $#!+


Oh...I don't have that many I know for sure. I prob'ly have around 8 or 10 in a mixture of black and red. I don't even remember where they came from....just misc NOS stuff I obtained many years ago.

Thanks so much!!
I'll probably order some from the above link, and you can keep up your stash, never know when you might need em!



If you find a place and order some with your order I will be in for 10 or so Bender. Just let me know.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Bender on July 09, 2011, 12:31:22 pm
Ok, This seems pretty good (http://www.onlinecomponents.com/switchcraft_913x.html?p=12319748) if you order 10 they're $3.32
Not sure about the shipping I'll post back when I get the bill

Hey Minions, you were part of the impetus for this thread, we found em in under an hour, gotta love this Forum!!!! :cheers:
everytime is see your avatar, I still can't believe they killed Ned off :'(
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Minions on July 09, 2011, 12:35:57 pm
Is the lead time how long if they run out, or do they honestly take 8 weeks to ship these things lol.

"Factory Lead-Time:   8 weeks"
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: Bender on July 09, 2011, 12:40:20 pm
sure hope it's if they run out!!
I'll should find out soon though
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: boardjunkie on July 09, 2011, 12:41:12 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/Switchcraft-903-Momentary-Pushbutton-Switch-GC-35-416-/360204847670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53dde1ca36 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Switchcraft-903-Momentary-Pushbutton-Switch-GC-35-416-/360204847670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53dde1ca36)

Good price if you can use red.....
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?(FOUND, thanks everyone!)
Post by: Minions on July 09, 2011, 04:34:44 pm
Bender, this link has the same item name but don't know 100% if it is the same. It's the same place we purchased our joysticks from.

http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1480921-switch-pb-1-cir-front-mt-black-913x.html (http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1480921-switch-pb-1-cir-front-mt-black-913x.html)

Cheapest if it is right (10   2.52500   25.25)

Looks like they have none on hand though. Shipping estimate says it will take about 4.5 weeks for them to ship if you order from here though. Suddenly that 9 week lead time at that other site sounds like it may be legit. (this one has a link that says lead time and it says they will ship on aug 20th estimated)

Gonna guess its the wrong one though since:
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/962409-switch-pb-1-cir-front-mt-black-913.html (http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/962409-switch-pb-1-cir-front-mt-black-913.html)

Seems to be the one we want ($4/ea here and 0 on hand). Guess emailing each of the sites would be the best way to figure out if the lead times are legit or not.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?(FOUND, thanks everyone!)
Post by: Nephasth on July 09, 2011, 04:46:43 pm
Quote
In Stock:  917 pcs. can ship now.

Shouldn't have to worry about a lead time seeing as they can ship "now".
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?
Post by: yotsuya on July 09, 2011, 05:44:43 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/Switchcraft-903-Momentary-Pushbutton-Switch-GC-35-416-/360204847670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53dde1ca36 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Switchcraft-903-Momentary-Pushbutton-Switch-GC-35-416-/360204847670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53dde1ca36)

Good price if you can use red.....


Thanks for the heads up! I just picked up 4 for some projects!
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button?(FOUND, thanks everyone!)
Post by: Minions on July 26, 2011, 07:48:36 pm
Turns out these are not in fact the same buttons. (or if they are they have changed the springs in them). My order has come in and needless to say these buttons will not function as arcade buttons. That is to say the force required to push them down makes them essentially useless. Sucks because I ordered some from onlinecomponents and ebay. OC has a 30 day no questions asked policy I believe (as long as the products are in new condition), the guy I got buttons from has a 7 day return policy.

So the new question is, what buttons are these if they are not made by switchcraft? (it's not 903 or 913x which rules out the previous version being a weaker spring)

Hopefully we can find this button once and for all.


Edit-
Went ahead and sent an email to switchcraft to see if they had any input, worth a shot I suppose.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? found??? *oops not so fast*
Post by: Bender on July 26, 2011, 07:53:54 pm
^^

what he said...  I too ordered some of these and they are not close to the same spring resistance, they would be fine for admin buttons, but no good for gameplay, back to the drawing board on this one
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? found??? *oops not so fast*
Post by: yotsuya on July 26, 2011, 08:07:06 pm
I picked them up to use as admin buttons, so they worked out for me, but yes, they are too stiff for gaming usage.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? found??? *oops not so fast*
Post by: Minions on July 29, 2011, 12:28:10 pm
http://www.philmore-datak.com/mc/Page%20164.pdf (http://www.philmore-datak.com/mc/Page%20164.pdf)

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/66/30146.jpg)

Part# 30-146

This looks a bit like it, not exactly the same though. It is another manufacturer. Manufacturer: Philmore


Here is another one

http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/965604-switch-pb-spst-momentary-1a-8532t1zqe2.html (http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/965604-switch-pb-spst-momentary-1a-8532t1zqe2.html)

(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5929/8532t1zqe2.jpg)

Not quite the same either....  or is it? I can't see what the prongs look like on the bottom of your original pic, these seem to be silver prongs though, yours look like a different color. Manufacturer: C&K Components
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? found??? *oops not so fast*
Post by: Bender on July 31, 2011, 12:50:52 am
That c&k one looks almost identical and it has a removable plunder like mine. The switchcraft did not as far as I can tell
Probably just have to get a couple to check out the feel

Thanks for looking further into it! :cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? found??? *oops not so fast*
Post by: Bender on August 04, 2011, 08:20:41 pm
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5929/8532t1zqe2.jpg)
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/965604-switch-pb-spst-momentary-1a-8532t1zqe2.html (http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/965604-switch-pb-spst-momentary-1a-8532t1zqe2.html)

Ok now we have it for sure just got some form Digi-Key and they are an exact match!!!!
Thanks to Minions for doing further research!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? *FOUND em for real this time*
Post by: Nephasth on August 04, 2011, 08:43:40 pm
Ouch. $6 a pop.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? *FOUND em for real this time*
Post by: Minions on August 04, 2011, 10:11:12 pm
Can try contacting these guys and see if their picture is wrong.

http://www.onlinecomponents.com/c-k-components_8532t1zqe1.html?p=11113673 (http://www.onlinecomponents.com/c-k-components_8532t1zqe1.html?p=11113673)

Same model number for $2.40/ea. Be forewarned I ordered the other buttons from them and they charge $30 minimum if you return an item (which is freaking ridiculous) Also they never respond to any emails as far as I can tell. So the price is good if it ends up being the correct button, otherwise I'd avoid them like the plague.
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? *FOUND em for real this time*
Post by: Bender on August 05, 2011, 07:37:44 am
good call I checked the speck sheet and that is the right one , just a stock photo to represent that line of button I think
Great research again Minions!!!!
Keep in mind they do not offer USPS shipping only UPS so the minimum is $10-11
Digi-Key does USPS for like $2-3
So as long as your ordering more than 2 looks like onlinecomponents is the way to go
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? *FOUND em for real this time*
Post by: bkenobi on August 05, 2011, 11:03:32 am
Have you guys thought of asking any of the distributors for the button press forces?  Seems like they are available in the spec for micro switches, so they should be available for integrated switches in buttons.  If it's available, it could save you time in waiting for shipments and some money in ordering the wrong products.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone Know where to get this button? *FOUND em for real this time*
Post by: Minions on August 05, 2011, 10:41:47 pm
Have you guys thought of asking any of the distributors for the button press forces?  Seems like they are available in the spec for micro switches, so they should be available for integrated switches in buttons.  If it's available, it could save you time in waiting for shipments and some money in ordering the wrong products.   :cheers:

Tried contacting them and got absolutely no response. The original buttons we bought were spec'd on this pdf which I see no mention of spring resistance.
http://128.121.65.66/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf (http://128.121.65.66/Drawings/903x_903dx_913x_913dx_cd.pdf)