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Title: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: clickhea on June 23, 2011, 09:24:00 pm

i have a pair of these speakers
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-G1043R-2-Way-Speaker-Watts/dp/B0030S17TC/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_1_map (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-G1043R-2-Way-Speaker-Watts/dp/B0030S17TC/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_1_map)

laying around which i would like to use in my arcade cabinet, what will i need in order to make these work with the computer? (besides an amp)

also would this amp work?

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1428&bih=916&q=100+watt+amplifier&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=898303919794673542&sa=X&ei=dugDTq-8Dsj40gHXzpjZCw&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAQ#scoring=tp (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1428&bih=916&q=100+watt+amplifier&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=898303919794673542&sa=X&ei=dugDTq-8Dsj40gHXzpjZCw&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAQ#scoring=tp)

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: boardjunkie on June 24, 2011, 10:37:10 am

The speakers should be ok as long as they're not close enough to the monitor tube to cause pix distortion.

Amp should work as long as it doesn't pull too much current off the 12v line of the computer's psu. Id actually recommend a seperate 12v supply for that.

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: clickhea on June 24, 2011, 02:42:28 pm

okay only problem is doesnt the psu have to be connected to a mobo in order to start up?

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: JODY on June 24, 2011, 10:21:25 pm

Google is your friend to find out how to use a PSU without a motherboard.  E.g. http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1 (http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1)

Lots of others too searching for "how to allow psu to work without mobo"

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: boardjunkie on June 25, 2011, 12:14:32 am

I wouldn't use a PC supply, 'cause it likely won't start up without a load on the 5v output. I was thinking a 5a or so switching supply like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-12V-7A-Adapter-Power-Supply-LCD-monitor-TV-Cord-/260377563757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3c9fb6526d (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-12V-7A-Adapter-Power-Supply-LCD-monitor-TV-Cord-/260377563757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3c9fb6526d)

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: lilshawn on June 25, 2011, 01:29:12 am

running a PSU with no load on the 5v rail tends to make the other rails low.

12v rail will only be maybe 10 or 11 volts... under load it will fluctuate ALL over the place 9 volts, 14 volts up down ... eventually sideways.

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: clickhea on June 25, 2011, 06:29:10 pm

Quote from: boardjunkie on June 25, 2011, 12:14:32 am

I wouldn't use a PC supply, 'cause it likely won't start up without a load on the 5v output. I was thinking a 5a or so switching supply like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-12V-7A-Adapter-Power-Supply-LCD-monitor-TV-Cord-/260377563757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3c9fb6526d (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-12V-7A-Adapter-Power-Supply-LCD-monitor-TV-Cord-/260377563757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3c9fb6526d)

i could use this instead of the psu from a computer?

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: clickhea on June 25, 2011, 06:50:35 pm

if anyone could give a quick reply so i can get my purchases set.. would this work to power the speakers?

(it would be alot easier than hacking a psu)

http://www.amazon.com/PCA2-40-Watt-Stereo-Power-Amplifier/dp/B001P2VV50/ref=pd_sim_e_4 (http://www.amazon.com/PCA2-40-Watt-Stereo-Power-Amplifier/dp/B001P2VV50/ref=pd_sim_e_4)

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: mgb on June 25, 2011, 09:25:09 pm

You can always power your amp from a seperate source that is switched off of a 12volt relay that gets fired off of your PCs psu.
So then when your computer is powered up, the relay is powered and turning on your power feed for the amp.

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: Gray_Area on June 26, 2011, 06:56:54 am

Save those for your car, and spend $20 (or less) on some decent PC speakers that are plug and play.

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: clickhea on June 26, 2011, 08:46:04 am

problem is i need the speakers because its a vewlix clone

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: paulscade on June 26, 2011, 04:45:24 pm

That will work.  I used the same setup for my cab... Sony auto speakers:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg875391#msg875391 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg875391#msg875391)
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg875409#msg875409 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg875409#msg875409)

and a Pyle Amp (attached).

I know that it's overkill... and I probably spent too much... but the cabinet sounds pretty darn good.

I was concerned about the shielding... but I haven't seen any problems at all having the speakers mounted just over the CRT.

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: clickhea on June 26, 2011, 11:09:59 pm

nice paul exactly what ive been looking for.

how did you hook the amp up to the computer what connector did you use?

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: paulscade on June 27, 2011, 07:46:10 pm

Actually...
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg875391#msg875391 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg875391#msg875391)

If you scroll down on this page... I wired the speakers to a terminal block... and used some "patch cords" that I made to wire from the terminal block to the outputs on the amp.

The input to the amp comes from another cable... with a mini-plug on one end (for the sound card) and RCA plugs on the other end (for the input to the amp).

Title: Re: so i want to use these speakers in my arcade cabinet
Post by: clickhea on June 28, 2011, 12:30:17 pm

to complicated for me, i have no wiring expierence.. lol need to keep it as simple as possible ;)