Build Your Own Arcade Controls Forum

Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: Shieldwolf on August 31, 2003, 01:01:01 am

Title: What else could I use this gun for...
Post by: Shieldwolf on August 31, 2003, 01:01:01 am
besides shooting myself, holding up a bank and
the two games mentioned. Would this be worth buying for my cab?

http://www.whitedog.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10&products_id=77

I have a psx guncon with kickback and pedal I love, but I don't think it will do me any good in my cabinet since all my psx gmes with be thrown onto my computer.

I also read somewhere I could actually use guns from Happs control on a mame cab, but that sounded kind of fishy. is that true?
Title: Re:What else could I use this gun for...
Post by: hooded_paladin on August 31, 2003, 01:36:35 am
Is it worth buying?  well, we're still waiting for a review of it.  Someone agreed to make a review*  The company says it would support two players, but I'd really like the review.

A PSX guncon will not work.  I've read that it would work in a playstation emulator outputted through a TV rather than a VGA monitor, with the gun hooked up by one of those SPX->USB converters.  But that seems kind of fishy, and it wouldn't work for mame.

The evidence so far is that you can't use arcade lightguns on a computer, without coming up with some kind of complicated converter that no one has made yet.

You can use positional guns (old style guns, that are mounted to the control panel and use an analog joystick-type input instead of a light sensor)  if you hack them into an analog joystick.

The leading PC lightgun is made by ActLabs.  It works on a CRT VGA monitor, plugs into the USB port, and acts like a mouse.  There are two downsides:  you cannot use two guns at once unless you have Windows 98 / ME and AnalogMame+, or linux or something else that supports two mice.  And it can't autofire (so far no PC lightgun can), like a machine gun.  (I have an idea for adding this functionality.  It's easy but requires some serious MAME programming, so no one really likes it.)[/me]

ActLabs is also coming out with a TV lightgun - it works on a PC but needs a TV or arcade monitor, not a CRT VGA monitor.  It is also said that it will better support two people at once.  We'll see.

*A thread a little down the page titled "ActLabs TV Lightgun delayed until Sept or Oct"  has some information.  On the second page, someone offers to do a review of it.  Coming soon, hopefully.
Title: Re:What else could I use this gun for...
Post by: Isometric Bacon on August 31, 2003, 02:20:49 am
A user review I read on that site for the gun states that it works with MAME.

Quote
This gun has a smart design to it...resembling a desert eagle. It is comfortable to hold and is a good size. It has autofire, and 3 methods of reload, pull back the 'hammer' or press the button on the side alternatively you can use the footpedal provided.

I have tested the gun on House of the Dead 1 and 2 and with various Mame games (Mame is an emulator that runs classic arcade games such as Zero Point and Point Blank), and it seems to work fine!

Though not as accurate as guns for the Dreamcast or Playstation it is definitely worthy of adding to your PC peripheral collection...we're not exactly spoiled for choice when it comes to Lightguns...but PC owners probably have the most lightgun games available to them out of any platform :)

Rating:  [4 of 5 Stars!]

Sounds great to me. I seem to remember reading here however that it is unlikely that it works for two players, (i.e. a gun each.)

So we have basic confirmation that it works with some MAME games and the PC reinditions of the HOTD series and Virtua Cop... I wonder if it works with any others, or in two player mode?

I absolutely love the design and style of these guns, and I much prefer the look over the Act Labs blasters... although i'd probably feel safer putting my money into an Act Lab. I guess we just need to wait until someone willingly forks over the dough...
Title: Re:What else could I use this gun for...
Post by: GSXRMovistar on August 31, 2003, 06:41:21 am

I have a psx guncon with kickback and pedal I love, but I don't think it will do me any good in my cabinet since all my psx gmes with be thrown onto my computer.


If you are used to a PSX gun then I think you may be a little disappointed with this gun, yes it works but it