Skynet.
I think it's the other way around; Anonymous is a part of Skynet.Skynet.
LOL, Skynet may indeed be a member of Anonymous.
I think it's the other way around; Anonymous is a part of Skynet.Skynet.
LOL, Skynet may indeed be a member of Anonymous.
All your base....
It's ALL a plot.
Remember Lik-Sang?
Sony drove them out of business years ago... :badmood:
http://www.lik-sang.com/ (http://www.lik-sang.com/)
I think it's the other way around; Anonymous is a part of Skynet.Skynet.
LOL, Skynet may indeed be a member of Anonymous.
All your base....
It's ALL a plot.
Holy god that was great. :applaud: :laugh2:
Remember Lik-Sang?
Sony drove them out of business years ago... :badmood:
http://www.lik-sang.com/ (http://www.lik-sang.com/)
I will never forgive Sony for that.
Remember Lik-Sang?
Sony drove them out of business years ago... :badmood:
http://www.lik-sang.com/ (http://www.lik-sang.com/)
Rumor has it that the attack is a message to Sony to back off on the other witch hunts to third parties related to Geohut. Remember? Sony subpoenaed ISPs and Websites for a list of IP addresses and names of whoever downloaded his code. I don't know how true this is because I don't know the full settlement details between Geohut and Sony.
Rumor has it that the attack is a message to Sony to back off on the other witch hunts to third parties related to Geohut. Remember? Sony subpoenaed ISPs and Websites for a list of IP addresses and names of whoever downloaded his code. I don't know how true this is because I don't know the full settlement details between Geohut and Sony.
thats the dumbest thing EVER though. what are you gonna even if you know who downloaded "dat geohot code". what..take 9 zillion people to court for downloading that cfw and for going to geohot's site?
lol..
microsoft can see who's playing bootleg games online. worst they'd do is ban that console. they dont go after anyone that went to xbox-scene and red about the haxxorz. less stupidity and more acquiring currency :cheers:
Remember Lik-Sang?
Sony drove them out of business years ago... :badmood:
http://www.lik-sang.com/ (http://www.lik-sang.com/)
I will never forgive Sony for that.
I have a work filter that wont let me access that link. Can someone explain what it was?
Lik-Sang.com Out of Business due to Multiple Sony Lawsuits
Tue Oct 24 2006 21:58:51 Hong Kong Time - Corporate Info
OUT OF BUSINESS NOTICE
Hong Kong, October 24th of 2006 - Lik-Sang.com, the popular gaming retailer from Hong Kong, has today announced that it is forced to close down due to multiple legal actions brought against it by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited and Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. Sony claimed that Lik-Sang infringed its trade marks, copyright and registered design rights by selling Sony PSP consoles from Asia to European customers, and have recently obtained a judgment in the High Court of London (England) rendering Lik-Sang's sales of PSP consoles unlawful.
As of today, Lik-Sang.com will not be in the position to accept any new orders and will cancel and refund all existing orders that have already been placed. Furthermore, Lik-Sang is working closely with banks and PayPal to refund any store credits held by the company, and the customer support department is taking care of any open transactions such as pending RMAs or repairs and shipping related matters. The staff of Lik-Sang will make sure that nobody will get hurt in the crossfire of this ordeal.
A Sony spokesperson declined to comment directly on the lawsuit against Lik-Sang, but recently went on to tell Gamesindustry.biz that "ultimately, we're trying to protect consumers from being sold hardware that does not conform to strict EU or UK consumer safety standards, due to voltage supply differences et cetera; is not - in PS3's case - backwards compatible with either PS1 or PS2 software; will not play European Blu-Ray movies or DVDs; and will not be covered by warranty".
Lik Sang strongly disagrees with Sony's opinion that their customers need this kind of protection and pointed out that PSP consoles shipped from Lik-Sang contained genuine Sony 100V-240V AC Adapters that carry CE and other safety marks and are compatible world wide. All PSP consoles were in conformity with all EU and UK consumer safety regulations.
Furthermore, Sony have failed to disclose to the London High Court that not only the world wide gaming community in more than 100 countries relied on Lik-Sang for their gaming needs, but also Sony Europe's very own top directors repeatedly got their Sony PSP hard or software imports in nicely packed Lik-Sang parcels with free Lik-Sang Mugs or Lik-Sang Badge Holders, starting just two days after Japan's official release, as early as 14th of December 2004 (more than nine months earlier than the legal action). The list of PSP related Sony Europe orders reads like the who's who of the videogames industry, and includes Ray Maguire (Managing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Alan Duncan (UK Marketing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Chris Sorrell (Creative Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Rob Parkin (Development Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited), just to name a few.
"Today is Sony Europe victory about PSP, tomorrow is Sony Europe’s ongoing pressure about PlayStation 3. With this precedent set, next week could already be the stage for complaints from Sony America about the same thing, or from other console manufacturers about other consoles to other regions, or even from any publisher about any specific software title to any country they don’t see fit. It’s the beginning of the end... of the World as we know it", stated Pascal Clarysse, formerly known as the Marketing Manager of Lik-Sang.com.
"Blame it on Sony. That's the latest dark spot in their shameful track record as gaming industry leader. The Empire finally 'won', few dominating retailers from the UK probably will rejoice the news, but everybody else in the gaming world lost something today."
^ anyone with a jailbroken ps3 can already get ALL psn game ever came out from torrents....................
that cant be the reason at all. xbox live doesnt shut down because people go online with a modded xbox. there is some other BS going on. they really did get hacked or/and psn security was compromised.
Second - Lik-Sang sold so much illegal stuff it's not even funny and they made it exceptionally easy for nervous teenagers with mom's credit card to get their hands on it.
Lik-Sang used to be an exporter for all sorts of stuff console related (and some not console related), a lot of white and gray market stuff. They became really well known for exporting mod related stuff. They never exported anything illegal such as copied games (AFAIK), but they did sell the tools to create copied games or to play copied games. They also sold a ton of stuff that weren't so gray market. Case mods. Region free DVD players. A lot of stuff that were exclusive to the Japanese market.
First - please read what 'gray market' actually means before you keep misusing it. "A lot of stuff that were exclusive to the Japanese market" = gray market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_market (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_market)
A grey market or gray market also known as parallel market[1] is the trade of a commodity through distribution channels which, while legal, are unofficial, unauthorized, or unintended by the original manufacturer.
Second - Lik-Sang sold so much illegal stuff it's not even funny and they made it exceptionally easy for nervous teenagers with mom's credit card to get their hands on it.
:(
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars)
And for all these reasons, we should all boycott Sony as best as possible.
Now, to be fair, all three console makers initially went after lik-sang for the modding accessories, but only Sony was ---uvula--- enough to go after them again for selling Japanese PSPs in Europe.
Ive never ever owned a PlayStation of any #:dizzy:
Any Sony branded product I've ever purchased was terrible, from TV's and telephones to stereos and pregnancy tests. There wasn't one thing from Sony I didn't have to fix (or try to)
Ive never ever owned a PlayStation of any #:dizzy:
Any Sony branded product I've ever purchased was terrible, from TV's and telephones to stereos and pregnancy tests. There wasn't one thing from Sony I didn't have to fix (or try to)
WTF?
This may be the most disturbing thread ever on BYOAC. Seriously.
I want to see a tutorial on how he tried to fix one.
I want to see a tutorial on how he tried to fix one.
By Fix, maybe he meant rig, cuz I want to se a tutorial on how to rig a pregnancy test.
Best. April. Fools. Joke. Ever.
You ever had one of those scares Vigo? ---smurfin--- scariest ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- EVER. Except going to the clinic and waiting for a HIV test after have a ONS when you raw dogged it. And it was back in the day when it took 5 days to get the results back and they had to MAIL THEM TO YOU. :scared
Still though. Thats messed up. ;)
This may be the most disturbing thread ever on BYOAC. Seriously.
I want to see a tutorial on how he tried to fix one.
By Fix, maybe he meant rig, cuz I want to se a tutorial on how to rig a pregnancy test.
Best. April. Fools. Joke. Ever.
You ever had one of those scares Vigo? ---smurfin--- scariest ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- EVER. Except going to the clinic and waiting for a HIV test after have a ONS when you raw dogged it. And it was back in the day when it took 5 days to get the results back and they had to MAIL THEM TO YOU. :scared
Still though. Thats messed up. ;)
I want to see a tutorial on how he tried to fix one.
By Fix, maybe he meant rig, cuz I want to se a tutorial on how to rig a pregnancy test.
Best. April. Fools. Joke. Ever.
You ever had one of those scares Vigo? ---smurfin--- scariest ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- EVER. Except going to the clinic and waiting for a HIV test after have a ONS when you raw dogged it. And it was back in the day when it took 5 days to get the results back and they had to MAIL THEM TO YOU. :scared
Still though. Thats messed up. ;)
No, thankfully..but I have seen enough friends have the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- completely scared out of them (or their life changed overnight) to make me thankful that I survived being a bachelor unscathed.
Even more disturbing than my GF wetting the bed thread? That had a few gems in it as well. ;D
Your fear is very rational. After all, there is mathematical proof that girls are evil. :P
(http://www.laughparty.com/funny-pictures/Proof-that-girls-are-evil-55.jpg)
Even more disturbing than my GF wetting the bed thread? That had a few gems in it as well. ;D
You didn't tell us your GF was pissing out gems.
Tell us more!
And for all these reasons, we should all boycott Sony as best as possible.
Keep in mind, that may prove impossible. Sony is pervasive in just about every industry out there. Boycotting them is about as effective as boycotting Disney. Even if you don't buy anything directly from Sony, you're still going to send money indrectly. :dunno
And for all these reasons, we should all boycott Sony as best as possible.
Keep in mind, that may prove impossible. Sony is pervasive in just about every industry out there. Boycotting them is about as effective as boycotting Disney. Even if you don't buy anything directly from Sony, you're still going to send money indrectly. :dunno
I know. We've been through this statement before. That's why I said "as best as possible".
U.S. regulators could get involved as well. The Federal Trade Commission has been known to pursue companies that failed to safeguard consumer data. It could investigate if it determines Sony failed to tell its customers about the company's privacy policies.
QuoteU.S. regulators could get involved as well. The Federal Trade Commission has been known to pursue companies that failed to safeguard consumer data. It could investigate if it determines Sony failed to tell its customers about the company's privacy policies.
Nuts, the last time I was forced to update my system there was a user agreement that was so long I ended up putting a weight on the joystick so I didn't have to deal with scrolling through the mile long document.
Now it's going to be even more text and harder to scroll through that nonsense.
And here it is, http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psn-database-containing-2-2million-credit-cards-now-up-sale-85702/ (http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psn-database-containing-2-2million-credit-cards-now-up-sale-85702/)
2.2 million credit card info straight from sony is up for auction in the Black market, all our personal info, passwords and everything are being sold. Hurray for us.
---fudgesicle--- you sony
hey i know who haked psn.......me.
hey i know who haked psn.......me.
FYI, I would not even joke about saying so. Unless you want the FBI knocking on your door. It's a serious felony and you go to PRISON, not some country jail.
hey i know who haked psn.......me.
FYI, I would not even joke about saying so. Unless you want the FBI knocking on your door. It's a serious felony and you go to PRISON, not some country jail.
Wouldn't that only happen if they prove he hacked the network?
I'm still annoyed over my PS2 slim having a bad laser (design defect from the first model) so yeah, aside from everyone being inconvenienced by this, I'm happy Sony looks bad.
It was probably someone who had their PS3 banned from the network.
Wouldn't that only happen if they prove he hacked the network?
DaveMMR, all I'm suggesting is to stay away from anything in the future that has the name SONY on it, like TVs, etc. Yeah, you might as well get your money's worth out of this generation, but F them in the future. I still haz my PS2 (playing FFXII Int'l Zodiac Job System right now, incidentally). Of course, Sony isn't making any money off of it.
hey i know who haked psn.......me.
FYI, I would not even joke about saying so. Unless you want the FBI knocking on your door. It's a serious felony and you go to PRISON, not some country jail.
Wouldn't that only happen if they prove he hacked the network?
Are the CVV2 codes based on some mathematical computation from your info/CC number? I figured they were just randomly assigned.
PSN and Qriocity will also be offering a “Welcome Back” program. This program is provided by Sony PlayStation in appreciation for their customers, understanding, patience, and support as well as in hopes of their continued loyalty to Sony. According to the press release the “Welcome Back” program will include, a 30 day free membership in the PlayStation Plus premium service for all existing PSN customers. PlayStation Plus users who are already a paying customer will receive 30 days free service as well. Music Unlimited subscribers who have been inconvenience will also receive free 30 days of service. Finally each region will receive selected PlayStation entertainment content for free download. Specific details are not available at this time; however PlayStation plans to make the announcement soon.
Is PSN even back up yet?
I'm also curious to see what they're offering.
Is PSN even back up yet?
I'm also curious to see what they're offering.
supposedly they have begun running today in a very limited capacity... my guess is they want to make sure it's not going to happen again.
Sony also detailed a ‘Welcome Back Appreciation Program’ for its users. The thank you package will include 30 free days of PSN Plus for every user, selected PlayStation entertainment content for free download (content will differ depending on your region), and 30 free days of Music Unlimited for Qriocity users. Sony says users can also expect additional "Welcome Back" entertainment and service offerings over the coming weeks.
*bad asian accent*
Oh, soley... It no 77 mirion it was 102 mirion. So soley so soley.
*end bad accent*
Uh... Ya I got nothing. 25 million more? Really sony? REALLY? Really.
This whole Playstation Network fiasco just might be the straw that broke the camels back.
Sony has squandered so many opportunities in the last decade.
Why license music from other labels for a game when you own your own record label?!?!That might make sense if Sony was the sole publisher of their games, but that's not the case. Many publishers (EA, Activistion, etc.) release the same game across multiple consoles (specifically, the XBox 360), so only using Sony's catalog would be moot.
Think of all the Sony Pictures Films that could have had games come out exclusively for PS3 and didn't.I guess you haven't been paying attention to the game industry but games based on movies are often terrible. Yes, you can say "Goldeneye" for the N64 or "The Warriors" for PS2 but then I'll just rebut with "Enter The Matrix" (merely okay but rushed) or "E.T." (partially responsible for destroying the video game industry in 1983). Or how about half of Acclaim's output since the NES. Or... just read through this page (http://"http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheProblemWithLicensedGames").
They just plod along, doing just enough to keep the peoples hype up.What else would you like them to do? Come over and give you a back massage while you're playing Mass Effect 2? You already said you want limited music and crappy licensed games but the game makers are steering away from that considering us gamers have gotten wise to that cost-cutting crap. There's no successor in sight for Sony's PS3 (this would typically be the year for the new generation's hardware to come out). So as of right now, it's either enjoy what they have to offer, or see what MS or Nintendo is serving up.
Sony has squandered so many opportunities in the last decade.
Americans are too lazy to hold a grudge.
That might make sense if Sony was the sole publisher of their games, but that's not the case. Many publishers (EA, Activistion, etc.) release the same game across multiple consoles (specifically, the XBox 360), so only using Sony's catalog would be moot.
But even if that wasn't the case, what fun would Rock Band, etc. be if you only had choice of songs from Sony's catalog? The success of these games can be partially attributed to its wide variety of licensed music. Oh and you can wave goodbye to Beatles Rock Band too...
Quote
Think of all the Sony Pictures Films that could have had games come out exclusively for PS3 and didn't.
I guess you haven't been paying attention to the game industry but games based on movies are often terrible. Yes, you can say "Goldeneye" for the N64 or "The Warriors" for PS2 but then I'll just rebut with "Enter The Matrix" (merely okay but rushed) or "E.T." (partially responsible for destroying the video game industry in 1983). Or how about half of Acclaim's output since the NES. Or... just read through this page.
considering us gamers have gotten wise to that cost-cutting crap.
So as of right now, it's either enjoy what they have to offer, or see what MS or Nintendo is serving up.
(P.S. I'm not a fanboy but I totally just sounded like one...)
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
(http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/webpix/spit-take.gif)
QuoteSo as of right now, it's either enjoy what they have to offer, or see what MS or Nintendo is serving up.
nintendo is famous for regurgitating the same thing with a shiny new wrapper, at least sony and MS push out something big... even though they have begun spiting out slim versions of the same thing to drum up sales.... but how many DS's do we need? look past the 3D and you have a regular DS... same as the 2 before it... same with the nintendo, then the "new" top load nintendo and the "new" SNES... dozens of incantations of the "gameboy". junk aside, sony is going to need to fast track something really really good or their customer base will move on.
And "the 'new' SNES"? Are you serious? You say that like the SNES is an offshoot of the NES. They're different beasts, not anything like what Atari has done with the 2600/7800 or even later generation consoles that every manufacture has done in some variation or another.
QuoteSo as of right now, it's either enjoy what they have to offer, or see what MS or Nintendo is serving up.
nintendo is famous for regurgitating the same thing with a shiny new wrapper, at least sony and MS push out something big... even though they have begun spiting out slim versions of the same thing to drum up sales.... but how many DS's do we need? look past the 3D and you have a regular DS... same as the 2 before it... same with the nintendo, then the "new" top load nintendo and the "new" SNES... dozens of incantations of the "gameboy". junk aside, sony is going to need to fast track something really really good or their customer base will move on.
You write that like Nintendo is the only one that does/did that. Sega had Genesis 1, 2, and 3 along with two iterations of the Sega CD and that's not counting the off shoot variations like the X'Eye, Multi-Mega, Nomad, and the unbelievably ---smurfy--- Firecore. And "the 'new' SNES"? Are you serious? You say that like the SNES is an offshoot of the NES. They're different beasts, not anything like what Atari has done with the 2600/7800 or even later generation consoles that every manufacture has done in some variation or another.
Hands down there is no other family that even comes remotely close to the sales numbers the Gameboy line generated for Nintendo. I can guarantee that if any other company produced those kinds of sales for their hand held, we would see the same kind of long running model changes. Where is the Lynx? How about the Game Gear? Turbo Express? Please, don't make me laugh. Check out the Wikipedia list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_game_console) and count how many have died off.
In the terms of the gaming field, Sony and Microsoft are still relative newcomers in the console industry. Hell, in terms of overall existence, Nintendo is the Grandpa in the industry. If repacking old tech keeps the company operating in the black, then it's obviously a working strategy.
I like the Sports Night reference. One of my favorite shows and that particular episode was hilarious. :cheers:
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
(http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/webpix/spit-take.gif)
:lol :laugh2: :lol :laugh2:
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that is hilarious. Go ahead, call me racist, I dont even care, thats funny. :laugh2:
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that is hilarious. Go ahead, call me racist, I dont even care, thats funny. :laugh2:
Since you asked me to: Mike, you are a racist.
Now don't say I never helped you out. ;D
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that is hilarious. Go ahead, call me racist, I dont even care, thats funny. :laugh2:
Since you asked me to: Mike, you are a racist.
Now don't say I never helped you out. ;D
Rock on friend. Can you do me another favor? Can you change your avatar? That damn clown is creepy! :scared
QuoteAnd "the 'new' SNES"? Are you serious? You say that like the SNES is an offshoot of the NES. They're different beasts, not anything like what Atari has done with the 2600/7800 or even later generation consoles that every manufacture has done in some variation or another.
sigh...
(http://www.wiichat.com/attachments/retro-consoles/492d1156084645-snes-2-snes2_sys.jpg)
PBJ's pregnant clown avatar was WAY creepier
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that is hilarious. Go ahead, call me racist, I dont even care, thats funny. :laugh2:
Since you asked me to: Mike, you are a racist.
Now don't say I never helped you out. ;D
Rock on friend. Can you do me another favor? Can you change your avatar? That damn clown is creepy! :scared
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that is hilarious. Go ahead, call me racist, I dont even care, thats funny. :laugh2:
Since you asked me to: Mike, you are a racist.
Now don't say I never helped you out. ;D
Rock on friend. Can you do me another favor? Can you change your avatar? That damn clown is creepy! :scared
Oh fine....there is no love for Snacks 'n Jackson on these forums. It's probably time you got an avatar though. I think it's a rule that once you hit the 800 post mark, you have to get an avatar for yourself.
I kinda figured that was the case. Work filters suck.
HERRO I RIIKE PRAYSTATIIOHN
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that is hilarious. Go ahead, call me racist, I dont even care, thats funny. :laugh2:
Since you asked me to: Mike, you are a racist.
Now don't say I never helped you out. ;D
Rock on friend. Can you do me another favor? Can you change your avatar? That damn clown is creepy! :scared
Oh fine....there is no love for Snacks 'n Jackson on these forums. It's probably time you got an avatar though. I think it's a rule that once you hit the 800 post mark, you have to get an avatar for yourself.
Haha I know, good point. My work filter is so lame, and I dont usually frequent the forums at home, but I might make some time to get an avatar.
When do we get our free stuff?
All I can do at this point is just chuckle and laugh. All this crap coming their way. After so much crap from them, they angered the wrong people - some of the better hackers in the world.
All I can do at this point is just chuckle and laugh. All this crap coming their way. After so much crap from them, they angered the wrong people - some of the better hackers in the world.
Well honestly I find it kind of sad. Angered the wrong people? Please. If you don't like Sony's policies then don't buy their stuff. Why get people like me - who only want to play online, maybe download a game, etc. - involved in a hacker's childish tantrum.
I understand some of the more tech-savvy are upset that they've been limited to how they can modify their system or that George Hotz faced legal action by finding an exploit in the PS3. Realize though that this will never change - piracy is a real problem in the industry. If they leave the doors open for people to take advantage, then they'd be in serious trouble. And with PCs so cheap, why even bother with hacking a damn console anymore? You can do what you want with a PC with none of the crazy hoops to jump through. Oh yeah right - you can't play pirated PS3 games on a PC.... ;)
I diverted from my original point - and I didn't mean for it to turn into a lecture on piracy (my C64 collection are the leftover shards of my glass house). But basically: committing a Federal crime, putting a company (and people's jobs) at risk, and inconveniencing 77 million innocent customers with at best, not being able to enjoy their product and at worst having to cancel their credit cards all because Sony won't make it easy for you to circumvent their anti-piracy measures is ridiculously stupid and irresponsible for all involved. It makes hard-core gamers look like a bunch of brats who couldn't have their way in the eyes of everyone else. The inflated sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.
Finally, if Sony's or Nintendo's or Microsoft's draconian locking methods really bother you to the point where you find this kind of attack justified, you should probably switch to PC gaming.
You read too much out of my post. Didn't say I condoned the actions. I am one of those people who will do their best to avoid the Sony name. I'm not the "wrong people". I'm not exactly saddened by these actions either (save the CC thievery-that is sad) with Sony's track record. I was hoping CC info wasn't actually going to be stolen and used, but it looks like that may be the case, though DNA Dan's could still be a coincidence. I'm doubtful that it is a coincidence, however.
If you don't like Sony's policies then don't buy their stuff.
Besides Sony today, Microsoft, Nintendo or Apple tomorrow...
I'm not really bothered by a DoS attack. It's only a temporary thing, and many users won't even know it happened. I know I wasn't even aware that Paypal was targeted awhile back during the wikileaks thing. But I do feel for the PSN users who still can't play some CoD or the new MK. What's happened does suck for all of them. This outage is certainly far and beyond anything anyone could have expected from a cyber-intrusion.
Finally, if Sony's or Nintendo's or Microsoft's draconian locking methods really bother you to the point where you find this kind of attack justified, you should probably switch to PC gaming.
while I agree with most of your post, this line is a bit off. The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off. I have a PS3, I jail broke it.......I still dont play it. Its a glorified BluRay player, and my GF bought it for me as a birthday gift thinking it would replace my broken PS2, but the salesman lied to her because he sold her a model that didnt play PS2 games. c'est la vi
I dont like Sony's policies and I wont be buying their stuff anymore.
The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off.
I'm not really bothered by a DoS attack.Definitely less noticable but still affects the consumer. Those attacks cost companies money, money they have to make up... through its customers.
Wouldn't bother me on Nintendo being targeted.
QuoteFinally, if Sony's or Nintendo's or Microsoft's draconian locking methods really bother you to the point where you find this kind of attack justified, you should probably switch to PC gaming.I am an avid PC gamer and there are plenty of issues with EA/Valve/Steam, etc... but we deal with it because we like to play...
while I agree with most of your post, this line is a bit off. The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off. I have a PS3, I jail broke it.......I still dont play it. Its a glorified BluRay player, and my GF bought it for me as a birthday gift thinking it would replace my broken PS2, but the salesman lied to her because he sold her a model that didnt play PS2 games. c'est la vi
I dont like Sony's policies and I wont be buying their stuff anymore.
Yeah I think that whole backward compatibility lie led to the PS3's lackluster sales. They put so much hype into these consoles by the time it hits the market the expectation is way beyond the reality.
Thanks for the heads up with Wells. This is only the second time in 15 years that I had to change my number due to theft and the first time they played nice. Hopefully this time is no different.
The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off.
That pretty much happens with any company (credit cards, cable providers, utilities, etc.) And they even put it in their language that they can modify terms and agreements at any time. But with Sony, you can "stop" buying anything further if you so choose (and sell the PS3 used, that affects them as well).
The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off.
That pretty much happens with any company (credit cards, cable providers, utilities, etc.) And they even put it in their language that they can modify terms and agreements at any time. But with Sony, you can "stop" buying anything further if you so choose (and sell the PS3 used, that affects them as well).
Lets not wonder too far off base here, lets keep it strictly about video game consoles. They can modify terms of service all they want, but that isnt what Sony did. Sony removed a selling feature, and the feature they removed pissed off the hackiest of nerds (or the nerdiest of hackers, your choice) and you had to choose between paying the newest games for the console or keeping the feature. If I knew how to do what they were doing, I'd probably be doing it too.
Im not going to get too deep into it, mostly because I dont care enough about it to do so. Sony can only push so much before people start pushing back. I'll still have the piece of mind of not supporting the company even if it doesnt impact them.
Wouldn't bother me on Nintendo being targeted.
You do give them credit card information if you download games from them (though I'm not sure if they actually store it since I have to keep re-entering it when I purchase points). ;)
"conduct further testing of the incredibly complex system"
Be that as it may, it's still not a valid reason to hack PSN and expose 77 million customers to potential fraud on the credit cards.Just to truncate and make sure we're on ther same path....... Anonymous took down the PSN servers for a day or two to show Sony how fucktarded they are. Thats what I was talking about. I supposed the criminals (some of which may or may not have been part of Anonymous) saw a vulnerability and cashed in.
And as for that whole Other OS business - I just never got it. Did people really buy a PS3 so they can install Linux on it? Does it serve any purpose besides running Homebrew software (that's usually either "meh" or "copyright infringement")? Why not install Linux on a cheap PC instead of a $400-$600 PS3 and do what you will with it? Seriously, I know little-to-nothing about it even after searching (though this one article says it might be pressure from IBM as to why they had to remove it (http://"http://hcgamingnews.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/did-sony-do-the-only-logical-thing-when-they-removed-the-otheros-feature-individual-opinion/")).
Just to truncate and make sure we're on ther same path....... Anonymous took down the PSN servers for a day or two to show Sony how fucktarded they are. Thats what I was talking about. I supposed the criminals (some of which may or may not have been part of Anonymous) saw a vulnerability and cashed in.
As for OtherOS, I guess the US government (AirForce, C3,etc) must have been running "meh" or "copyright infringement" when they bought over 2,200 PS3 to run linux. As for the IBM opinion,I dont see many facts supporting it, just conjecture. Perhaps you really didnt know that you can use a PS3 as a server and that a server usually costs a lot more then a PS3 (the power supply in my crappy Dell PowerEdge 1800 back up server is $300)
I wish someone else who had to cancel their card posts in the thread so we'd know it wasn't coincidence.
Anyone else remember when consoles just 'worked'?
We've got the Wii with GPUs taking shits, RROD Xbox 360s, and PS3s that can't go online.
Yeesh.
People who steal credit card numbers wish that more people were like you and just waited for their banks to tell them to cancel a credit card they've already suspected was compromised.
As soon as I heard about this I figured out what card I used on PSN and cancelled it. I wasn't going to wait for Sony to confirm or denied it was stolen. Heck, it took Sony a week to give us any info about it.
Abandoning Sony is out of the question for me. I've spend a lot of money on my PS3, now I’m stuck with it until the next generation console is priced under $300.
All I care about is what Sony is going to give me for my troubles. If they decide to screw me over I won't be buying a PS4, but they won't feel that loss for another 5-10 years.
I may be wrong, but didn't the Airforce purchase the PS3's along with a support contract basically guaranteeing hardware support from Sony? Afterall, it's not like you buy a few hundred PS3 consoles from your local Wally World on short notice.
Anyone else remember when consoles just 'worked'?
We've got the Wii with GPUs taking shits, RROD Xbox 360s, and PS3s that can't go online.
Yeesh.
I'm not worried, but I admit I am going to take that card off the system once the PSN is back up.
I may be wrong, but didn't the Airforce purchase the PS3's along with a support contract basically guaranteeing hardware support from Sony? Afterall, it's not like you buy a few hundred PS3 consoles from your local Wally World on short notice.
I'll have to take your word for it there but I'm guessing the Airforce isn't worried too much about the same concerns the rest of the users are having (disabled features, etc.) considering Sony loves that they can tout this as an example of the PS3's power.
Also I don't think so highly of credit card companies so I figured I'd let them deal with it.
Also I don't think so highly of credit card companies so I figured I'd let them deal with it.
Wouldn't that make you a little MORE proactive regarding the situation?
I may be wrong, but didn't the Airforce purchase the PS3's along with a support contract basically guaranteeing hardware support from Sony? Afterall, it's not like you buy a few hundred PS3 consoles from your local Wally World on short notice.
I'll have to take your word for it there but I'm guessing the Airforce isn't worried too much about the same concerns the rest of the users are having (disabled features, etc.) considering Sony loves that they can tout this as an example of the PS3's power.
The Air Force uses OtherOS, which is a disabled feature. So it's not something Sony can brag about.
No, because it's their money.
I may be wrong, but didn't the Airforce purchase the PS3's along with a support contract basically guaranteeing hardware support from Sony? Afterall, it's not like you buy a few hundred PS3 consoles from your local Wally World on short notice.
I'll have to take your word for it there but I'm guessing the Airforce isn't worried too much about the same concerns the rest of the users are having (disabled features, etc.) considering Sony loves that they can tout this as an example of the PS3's power.
The Air Force uses OtherOS, which is a disabled feature. So it's not something Sony can brag about.
That's what I was saying though - you think the Airforce's PS3's have the same restrictions as the off-the-shelf models?
And even so, Sony doesn't have to be specific about HOW the Airforce is running PS3's, just that they are. Most people don't know what an OtherOS is anyway.
And this is all moot - I'm not in the Airforce. I just want to play an online game. Thank God Steam didn't go down so I can still play TF2.
Removal of OtherOS affects the Airforce as much as anyone else (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/USAF-air-force-playstation-ps3-other-os,10417.html). Just because they don't let their PS3's attach to PSN, there's still the problem of continued support when the hardware dies. Airforce can't buy slims and refurbished units are returned with updated (subsequently removing OtherOS) firmware.
I was incorrect that the Airforce purchased the units directly through Sony, they purchased them through contract with Fixstars.
Removal of OtherOS affects the Airforce as much as anyone else (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/USAF-air-force-playstation-ps3-other-os,10417.html). Just because they don't let their PS3's attach to PSN, there's still the problem of continued support when the hardware dies. Airforce can't buy slims and refurbished units are returned with updated (subsequently removing OtherOS) firmware.
I was incorrect that the Airforce purchased the units directly through Sony, they purchased them through contract with Fixstars.
Removal of OtherOS affects the Airforce as much as anyone else (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/USAF-air-force-playstation-ps3-other-os,10417.html). Just because they don't let their PS3's attach to PSN, there's still the problem of continued support when the hardware dies. Airforce can't buy slims and refurbished units are returned with updated (subsequently removing OtherOS) firmware.
I was incorrect that the Airforce purchased the units directly through Sony, they purchased them through contract with Fixstars.
Maybe the Airforce should stick to using regular computer hardware instead of video game consoles?
Removal of OtherOS affects the Airforce as much as anyone else (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/USAF-air-force-playstation-ps3-other-os,10417.html). Just because they don't let their PS3's attach to PSN, there's still the problem of continued support when the hardware dies. Airforce can't buy slims and refurbished units are returned with updated (subsequently removing OtherOS) firmware.
I was incorrect that the Airforce purchased the units directly through Sony, they purchased them through contract with Fixstars.
Maybe the Airforce should stick to using regular computer hardware instead of video game consoles?
I remember reading about the Airforce PS3 supercomputer when it came out.....The airforce team opted for PS3's because it would be quite a few thousands less in cost than other hardware options, and met their needs perfectly. It was also a case where they knew the replacements would be readily available for years to come. The airforce had felt slighted since Sony had personally applauded them for using their gaming system to create a supercomputer.
Removal of OtherOS affects the Airforce as much as anyone else (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/USAF-air-force-playstation-ps3-other-os,10417.html). Just because they don't let their PS3's attach to PSN, there's still the problem of continued support when the hardware dies. Airforce can't buy slims and refurbished units are returned with updated (subsequently removing OtherOS) firmware.
I was incorrect that the Airforce purchased the units directly through Sony, they purchased them through contract with Fixstars.
Maybe the Airforce should stick to using regular computer hardware instead of video game consoles?
I remember reading about the Airforce PS3 supercomputer when it came out.....The airforce team opted for PS3's because it would be quite a few thousands less in cost than other hardware options, and met their needs perfectly. It was also a case where they knew the replacements would be readily available for years to come. The airforce had felt slighted since Sony had personally applauded them for using their gaming system to create a supercomputer.
*EXACTLY* building a server grade computer (at that time) with that kind of raw horsepower is not cheap. IIRC, the USAF cluster ranks as the 33rd most powerful supercomputer. That's an awful lot of horsepower for not much moola.
Found the Sony marketed PS2 render farm, it was the GSCUBE. Apparently used to render the Ants, a design flaw in the pipeline between the GSCUBE and host PC gave it less than stellar performance numbers.
To custom-build a supercomputer without using commercial off-the-shelf PlayStation 3s would likely have cost 10 times as much, Barnell said. In addition, the Condor uses a fraction of the energy that comparably sized supercomputers use. Portions of it — say 300 machines — can be turned on while the rest are off, depending on a job’s needs.
Excellent. Does that mean the Airforce can play games online again?
Excellent. Does that mean the Airforce can play games online again?
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Yeah, I gotta agree with that.Excellent. Does that mean the Airforce can play games online again?
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DaveMMR, you somehow really got on a big rolling lame in this thread.
What is this welcome back package of CONTENT and services?
Which begs the question: If I take that free PS+ for the month and don't continue, can I keep the free stuff I downloaded for being a temporary member of the premium service?
:lame:Yeah, I gotta agree with that.Excellent. Does that mean the Airforce can play games online again?
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:lame:
DaveMMR, you somehow really got on a big rolling lame in this thread.
Well sorry I offended you all. I know it's not as gangbusters as some of the "asians sure do talk funny talk" lines in this thread that had all the wit and wisdom of a 1950's Jell-o commercial ("Herro.... ROTFL"? Seriously?) nor was it really ever meant to be. I hope I haven't ruined your experience on this board.
In the future, I will think twice about saying something sarcastic that's not even really a joke but more of a rebellion about how I made a comment about the lack of usefulness of "OtherOS" for most consumers of the PS3 and it turned into a "but the Airforce uses it" derailment to prove otherwise and possibly justify the outrage Sony's customers should harbor. Hasn't convinced me: estimates show that most people with PS3's are actually not using them to power the Airforce and just want to play their games online. Assuming (and at this point, that's all it really is though heavy speculation points in that direction) this outage was caused in response to Sony's removal of the "OtherOS" feature or persecution of George Hotz for exploiting the PS3 to perform similarly, I maintained hackers were fighting a war over stupid reasons for little gain for next-to-no one (USAF branch be damned).
Instead of saying all that ad naseum, I went with nonsensical little bits of sarcasm that may have been a little childish in hindsight but at least SavannahLion got to whip out his little "lame" graphic. And Vera, way to springboard off his comment. You waiting for five pages of comments to make your sole contribution: parroting his line and adding that little extra commentary at the end calling me out for several bad "jokes". Good job. Glad you waited for someone else to say it first.
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:lame:Yeah, I gotta agree with that.Excellent. Does that mean the Airforce can play games online again?
:lame:
:lame:
DaveMMR, you somehow really got on a big rolling lame in this thread.
Well sorry I offended you all. I know it's not as gangbusters as some of the "asians sure do talk funny talk" lines in this thread that had all the wit and wisdom of a 1950's Jell-o commercial ("Herro.... ROTFL"? Seriously?) nor was it really ever meant to be. I hope I haven't ruined your experience on this board.
In the future, I will think twice about saying something sarcastic that's not even really a joke but more of a rebellion about how I made a comment about the lack of usefulness of "OtherOS" for most consumers of the PS3 and it turned into a "but the Airforce uses it" derailment to prove otherwise and possibly justify the outrage Sony's customers should harbor. Hasn't convinced me: estimates show that most people with PS3's are actually not using them to power the Airforce and just want to play their games online. Assuming (and at this point, that's all it really is though heavy speculation points in that direction) this outage was caused in response to Sony's removal of the "OtherOS" feature or persecution of George Hotz for exploiting the PS3 to perform similarly, I maintained hackers were fighting a war over stupid reasons for little gain for next-to-no one (USAF branch be damned).
Instead of saying all that ad naseum, I went with nonsensical little bits of sarcasm that may have been a little childish in hindsight but at least SavannahLion got to whip out his little "lame" graphic. And Vera, way to springboard off his comment. You waiting for five pages of comments to make your sole contribution: parroting his line and adding that little extra commentary at the end calling me out for several bad "jokes". Good job. Glad you waited for someone else to say it first.
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Nobody cares if you think it's a useless feature. Sony marketed and advertised otherOS and Linux support. People paid for the product with that feature as promised. Later Sony took it away. How more simple can it get? It's a classic bait and switch. Sony. Bad. End of Line.
It's like if someone bought a fancy car with an onboard computer system, and when he updated the GPS maps it disabled the car radio. The owner would be mad. From your logic, you would be telling the owner to STFU, because the radio is overrated, and a car is meant to drive, not listen to music, and they probably would have bought the car if it didn't have a radio anyway.
So yeah, we label your comments as :lame:.
:lame:Yeah, I gotta agree with that.Excellent. Does that mean the Airforce can play games online again?
:lame:
:lame:
DaveMMR, you somehow really got on a big rolling lame in this thread.
Well sorry I offended you all. I know it's not as gangbusters as some of the "asians sure do talk funny talk" lines in this thread that had all the wit and wisdom of a 1950's Jell-o commercial ("Herro.... ROTFL"? Seriously?) nor was it really ever meant to be. I hope I haven't ruined your experience on this board.
In the future, I will think twice about saying something sarcastic that's not even really a joke but more of a rebellion about how I made a comment about the lack of usefulness of "OtherOS" for most consumers of the PS3 and it turned into a "but the Airforce uses it" derailment to prove otherwise and possibly justify the outrage Sony's customers should harbor. Hasn't convinced me: estimates show that most people with PS3's are actually not using them to power the Airforce and just want to play their games online. Assuming (and at this point, that's all it really is though heavy speculation points in that direction) this outage was caused in response to Sony's removal of the "OtherOS" feature or persecution of George Hotz for exploiting the PS3 to perform similarly, I maintained hackers were fighting a war over stupid reasons for little gain for next-to-no one (USAF branch be damned).
Instead of saying all that ad naseum, I went with nonsensical little bits of sarcasm that may have been a little childish in hindsight but at least SavannahLion got to whip out his little "lame" graphic. And Vera, way to springboard off his comment. You waiting for five pages of comments to make your sole contribution: parroting his line and adding that little extra commentary at the end calling me out for several bad "jokes". Good job. Glad you waited for someone else to say it first.
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Nobody cares if you think it's a useless feature. Sony marketed and advertised otherOS and Linux support. People paid for the product with that feature as promised. Later Sony took it away. How more simple can it get? It's a classic bait and switch. Sony. Bad. End of Line.
It's like if someone bought a fancy car with an onboard computer system, and when he updated the GPS maps it disabled the car radio. The owner would be mad. From your logic, you would be telling the owner to STFU, because the radio is overrated, and a car is meant to drive, not listen to music, and they probably would have bought the car if it didn't have a radio anyway.
So yeah, we label your comments as :lame:.
I label stupid little graphics in place of intelligent debate as lame. Disagree with me if you like, but don't be a tool.
Now to address your comparison: a car radio is something most people use in their car; OtherOS was something most people didn't. I don't have hard data to back that up but the basic design of consoles is that of simplicity - i.e. it takes very little technical intelligence to use it as intended, to play games. These ARE NOT people looking to dick around with their investments to see if they can run Linux for whatever reason. I DID do some very unscientific research and asked my friends how they felt about the removal of OtherOS. Out of about ten people, approximately ZERO of them knew what the hell I was talking about.
Okay so now you know I'm concentrating on the average (read: non-technical) consumers. They didn't blink when this ability was taken away. However, they spent weeks without access to their online games quite possibly because a statistically SMALL group of people were miffed about it. And I admitted that I wasn't even really sure what OtherOS or any other hack did that was significant other than (and I paraphrase myself here) "meh homebrew and copyright infringement" that would work better than a cheap PC. The only real answer I got was a two-page primer on how the Airforce utilizes it and also that it works well as an inexpensive server. Call me cynical, but I'm guessing the people who were most upset with the loss of OtherOS were not in either camp.
But I'm not being fair. You can be mad at Sony*. If you used OtherOS legitimately (or hell even illegitimately, who am I to judge), you have a right to be upset. However, you DO NOT have the right to disrupt a large corporation, inconvenience 77 million consumers and expose them to credit fraud because of it. Who's that protecting?
(*I even remarked in a previous post that Sony was stupid to even advertise such a feature existed. They set themselves up for trouble by doing sp.)
Someone needs to go consult a dictionary and read up on what civil disobedience means.
The hacking was done by professional criminals, not neckbeards pissed about OtherOS.
Any cluster the Air Force was running on PS3s had more to do with recruiting than it did actual utility.
Electronic civil disobedience can include web site defacements, redirects, denial-of-service attacks, information theft, illegal web site parodies, virtual sit-ins, and virtual sabotage. It is distinct from other kinds of hacktivism in that the perpetrator openly reveals his identity.And let's not compare protest over unjust laws or government practices with a video game console losing minor functionality.
First off Vigo, I was not implying you are a tool. But I'm not big on the using of emoticons in place of (instead of enhancing) disagreement, thoughts or opinions - to which I called "toolish behavoir". I sincerely apologize if it was taken that way.Thank you.
Finally, I decided to rethink the OtherOS-to-car radio analogy. I'll run with it. So if your car radio is disabled by that new GPS you install, it begs the question: Why are you installing that GPS? Okay, so you HAVE to (car maker requiring it)? Then why do you still have that car? Why not go with a different car that isn't at stringent with its requirements as to third-tiered features? And finally, why are you buying your cars based solely on the radio? Read: Did any of you buy a PS3 solely because of it's OtherOS feature?
Why are you installing that GPS?Your car came with the GPS as part of the Nav computer. You are merely updating the maps on the Nav so you can get around. Outdated maps mean that it won't function like it was meant to.
Okay, so you HAVE to (car maker requiring it)? Then why do you still have that car?You don't have to, but with your Nav system, all updates are bundled together. And to use other features such as your Onstar system and satelite networking, you need to do an all around update. You can either choose between sacrificing the radio, or not using any features that require regular updates, which is aa ton of them. And chances are, you updated your Nav system without even knowing that it was going to disable your radio.
Why not go with a different car that isn't at stringent with its requirements as to third-tiered features?You bought the car before they decided to do this. Since your car cost a ton of money can you cannot get good resale value, you are stuck with this particular car.
And finally, why are you buying your cars based solely on the radio? Read: Did any of you buy a PS3 solely because of it's OtherOS feature?You didn't buy solely based on the radio. You looked over all the features and decided to go with this car. You PAID for the radio, as it was included in the features your car was priced for.
Secondly, Malenko, this is not a case of "civil disobedience":QuoteElectronic civil disobedience can include web site defacements, redirects, denial-of-service attacks, information theft, illegal web site parodies, virtual sit-ins, and virtual sabotage. It is distinct from other kinds of hacktivism in that the perpetrator openly reveals his identity.And let's not compare protest over unjust laws or government practices with a video game console losing minor functionality.
How is it not?
Electronic civil disobedience can include web site defacements, redirects, denial-of-service attacks, information theft, illegal web site parodies, virtual sit-ins, and virtual sabotage. It is distinct from other kinds of hacktivism in that the perpetrator openly reveals his identity.
Anonymous did a denial-of-service attack. The group does what they do and hid who they are as individuals but never who they are as a group. I wont argue semantics, it is an act of civil disobedience. Unjust laws, government practices, unjust law breaking, why shouldnt we protest?
It might be of interest (but little surprise) that Sony has a Better Business Bureau rating of F. Meanwhile Nintendo and Microsoft are sitting with an A+.
And it looks like Sony was an F for quite a while as well. At least a year now.
I'm referring to the attack on Sony's server which appears to be more than a mere DOS attack.You DO know there was more then 1 attack on Sony right? Please tell me you knew that. Ok, now that you do know that now, can you apply everything I said to the DDoS attack anonymous did and not to the credit card theft someone else did?
I'm referring to the attack on Sony's server which appears to be more than a mere DOS attack.You DO know there was more then 1 attack on Sony right? Please tell me you knew that. Ok, now that you do know that now, can you apply everything I said to the DDoS attack anonymous did and not to the credit card theft someone else did?
I had read about them restoring services over the weekend.
And when they did, about 10 minutes later, it all crashed again, due to "heavy traffic".
Problem, Sony? You have about the same number of customers (actually, probably less) on your network than you did before disabling the network, but you couldn't handle the volume?
Apparently they can handle it now. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20063251-260.html)
Also today Sony said PSN customers will get to choose a free video game to download. PS3 owners can choose from a list that includes Dead Nation, inFAMOUS, LittleBigPlanet, Super Stardust HD, and Wipeout HD + Fury, all titles that would normally cost between $10 and $20. PSP owners can choose one free game from among LittleBigPlanet (PSP), ModNation Racers, Pursuit Force, and Killzone Liberation. The offer lasts for 30 days once the PlayStation Store returns, but once downloaded the game can be kept forever.
Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20063251-260.html#ixzz1McamIaT0 (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20063251-260.html#ixzz1McamIaT0)
I didn't understand that if you get free games for the PS3 AND the PSP (assuming you have each) or you have to choose one or the other. Because I was thinking about Little Big Planet PSP but I rather get PS3 games if I have to choose...
JEEEZZZZUSSSS!! You mean the info used to authenticate for new passwords is actually the information that was previously stolen? Are these people retards?
I'm waiting for the Sony retinal scan peripheral coming out next month. Only 59.99 if you preorder today... :banghead:
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I swear, man, it's like these companies learned nothing from the 1990s.
Inside job?
Wheres the PS3 fanbois at saying that this is a good thing?
yeah, totally I think its worth to play 300 bucks for a blu ray player when I can get one for under a hundred. Blu ray is the next betamax, streaming is the way of the future
Sony says "Nuh uh! No it didn't! (http://thenextweb.com/industry/2011/05/18/sony-responds-to-reports-of-hacking-by-stating-that-there-was-no-hack/)
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I swear, man, it's like these companies learned nothing from the 1990s.
"eeeeegnh wheres my trophies?!" or yachtswomen or whatever you are supposed to "win" with these things
yeah, totally I think its worth to play 300 bucks for a blu ray player when I can get one for under a hundred. Blu ray is the next betamax, streaming is the way of the future
So for the people who had their PSN account passwords changed without their knowledge, what's Sony going to do about them?
yeah, totally I think its worth to play 300 bucks for a blu ray player when I can get one for under a hundred. Blu ray is the next betamax, streaming is the way of the future
He was being sarcastic (I hope)
The xbox has a WAY better online experience.
Kinect is way better than the move
oh yeah, and as far as I know, Microsoft never let hackers steal 120 million credit card numbers....
What does that even mean? I can (when it's working) play online games. What more do I need? (besides 40 extra more bucks a year)
I'm playing online games to pretend I'm racing a car or fighting in a battle, not to pretend I have friends.
Again with the "way better", what are you a 12 year old girl?
Agreed, Kinect is a better gimmick, too bad it's only good for dance games.
Dance little girl, dance
Oh yeah, and as far as you know, Sony never let hackers steal 120 million credit card numbers...
Well, I can get back into PSN, now, but I haven't been able to get my free games yet. PSN Store is currently undergoing maintenance... :timebomb:
it happened again, this time they took users psn points, I'd recommend using pre-paid cards to make purchases
http://www.destructoid.com/hackers-continue-to-attack-sony-start-stealing-money-201690.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/hackers-continue-to-attack-sony-start-stealing-money-201690.phtml)
I bet the executives at Toyota are celebrating.
I just read that some games, including the new Dirt 3 REQUIRE the use of the PSN Store to play online. Which of course is still under maintenance.
Ridiculous.
I just read that some games, including the new Dirt 3 REQUIRE the use of the PSN Store to play online. Which of course is still under maintenance.
Ridiculous.
What the hell? Where is the logic in that?! ???
The store was up (last light anyway), but I couldn't figure out how to get my free inFamous game.
The store was up (last light anyway), but I couldn't figure out how to get my free inFamous game.
The welcome back package isn't available yet... :angry:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110610/tc_nm/us_spain_anonymous (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110610/tc_nm/us_spain_anonymous)
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! :applaud: