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Title: Wells Gardner 26" LCD Arcade Monitor?
Post by: mark6437 on March 08, 2011, 10:37:05 pm
So what do yall think about this option as a MAME monitor?

http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-parts-and-accessories/product/wells-gardner-26-lcd-arcade-monitor-9000-series/ (http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-parts-and-accessories/product/wells-gardner-26-lcd-arcade-monitor-9000-series/)
Title: Re: Wells Gardner 26" LCD Arcade Monitor?
Post by: newmanfamilyvlogs on March 09, 2011, 06:00:33 am
It provides zero benefit over a traditional computer LCD monitor or LCD TV. And it's more expensive. The only benefit it offers is being able to hook up to the 15kHz source of an original arcade PCB, which you don't need if you're running mame on a pc.
Title: Re: Wells Gardner 26" LCD Arcade Monitor?
Post by: bitbytebit on March 10, 2011, 09:34:45 am
I've wondered what these actually do, by saying they take 15-80khz input, are they doing some conversion internally or what?  The LCD monitors I have actually seem to really only like 51khz and greater signals so don't even accept VGA 31.5khz and so are quite limited and mostly only handle doublescan for lower resolutions.  I've really wondered if these arcade lcd's are any better, and if not then what are they doing with the 15khz-50khz or so signals normal LCD's won't even accept.  Also my lcd's don't like anything less wide than 320 pixels which of course for running a lot of vertical games on them won't work, or horizontal games like mario brothers.  Of course this is  trying to get the thing to really display as original without stretching.  So do these arcade monitors then possibly have an EDID and DDC setup that is better, I wonder what resolutions those give out, and what do they do about doublescan or can they do better at all and avoid doublescan.  I'm hoping they are the same as a normal LCD, because they are expensive, but I've really wondered the real technical details of what they are doing different with allowing lower khz and what the trick is exactly and how the EDID on them might be different.   
Title: Re: Wells Gardner 26" LCD Arcade Monitor?
Post by: mrracer on June 02, 2011, 02:11:43 pm
I would think they offer a benefit when replacing a CRT Arcade monitor with one of these and using the ArcadeVGA card to get the same display you would get out of a CRT arcade monitor? Or am I incorrect in this statement and is this simply a overpriced LCD monitor? Does any one know?
Title: Re: Wells Gardner 26" LCD Arcade Monitor?
Post by: SNAAKE on June 02, 2011, 03:34:50 pm
its just an overpriced lcd
Title: Re: Wells Gardner 26" LCD Arcade Monitor?
Post by: torino on June 02, 2011, 05:10:09 pm
I've wondered what these actually do, by saying they take 15-80khz input, are they doing some conversion internally or what? 

They have built-in the same type of video adapter as PC video cards with TV-out have, only conversion goes the other way around. So, just like regular video card can have VGAtoCGA converter built in, so can regular LCD have CGAtoVGA converter built in, and then you may call it "Arcade LCD".

But, just as TV connected to TV-out adapter will not display VGA resolution, so too none of those LCDs will actually display CGA resolutions, it's only their INPUT capabilities will be extended, but the OUTPUT will be that of regular LCD.

It's unfortunate LCDs are advertised without mentioning their actual _output capabilities and what we really get to see on their screen.