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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: Matthew Anderson on December 31, 2010, 10:09:45 am
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So I was looking for a new weekly planner for the wife --- she has been keeping track of our kid's progress using one. Problem is she was using a moleskine... and it turns out they have a cancer warning on it.
:dizzy:
I know... Call me crazy then click this link
http://www.moleskineus.com/mbh511w-moleskine-2011-pocket-weekly-planner-horizontal-format.html (http://www.moleskineus.com/mbh511w-moleskine-2011-pocket-weekly-planner-horizontal-format.html)
and click on the prop 65 warning... (for california residents)
Attention California Residents:
California Proposition 65
WARNING: This product contains a chemical
known to the State of California to cause cancer,
birth defects or other reproductive harm.
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Now while it is probably a negligible thing .. I have to wonder why they don't fix it...
Anyhow I want something just like this dang thing... just not cancerous ... any ideas out there?
Something digital won't work... this is intended to be read and enjoyed 20+ years from now.
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Just move out of California..
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Go-go wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moleskine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moleskine)
In 2010 Moleskine began labeling many of their products with California's Prop 65 warning label. The warning concerns a chemical that is known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, or other reproductive harm.[8] The chemical of concern is known as DEHP (Bis(2-ethylhexyl) phthalate), a type of plastic softener used in all Moleskine notebook covers except for the Cahier line which are made up of cardboard. This new warning has caused many users of Moleskines to question the company's commitment to high environmental and safety standards.[9] As of August 2010, Moleskine has yet to release DEHP-free notebooks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis%282-ethylhexyl%29_phthalate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis%282-ethylhexyl%29_phthalate)
DEHP has been used as a plasticiser in medical devices such as intravenous tubing and bags, catheters, nasogastric tubes, dialysis bags and tubing, and blood bags and transfusion tubing, and air tubes. For this reason, concern has been expressed about leachates transported into the patient, especially for those requiring extensive infusions, e.g. newborns in intensive care nursery settings, hemophiliacs, and kidney dialysis patients. According to the European Commission Scientific Committee on Health and Environmental Risks (SCHER), exposure to DEHP may exceed the tolerable daily intake in some specific population groups, namely people exposed through medical procedures such as kidney dialysis.[2] The American Academy of Pediatrics has advocated not to use medical devices that can leach DEHP into patients and, instead, to resort to DEHP-free alternatives.[citation needed] In July 2002, the U.S. FDA issued a Public Health Notification on DEHP, stating in part, "We recommend considering such alternatives when these high-risk procedures are to be performed on male neonates, pregnant women who are carrying male fetuses, and peripubertal males" noting that the alternatives were to look for non-DEHP exposure solutions; they mention a database of alternatives. The CBC documentary The Disappearing Male raised concerns about sexual development in male fetal development, miscarriage (as DEHP is a pseudo-estrogen and a hormone modifier found in most plastic products such as PVC, polycarbonate, nearly all cosmetic chemical products, and many others), and as a cause of dramatically lower sperm counts in men.
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Go-go wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moleskine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moleskine)
In 2010 Moleskine began labeling many of their products with California's Prop 65 warning label. The warning concerns a chemical that is known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, or other reproductive harm.[8] The chemical of concern is known as DEHP (Bis(2-ethylhexyl) phthalate), a type of plastic softener used in all Moleskine notebook covers except for the Cahier line which are made up of cardboard. This new warning has caused many users of Moleskines to question the company's commitment to high environmental and safety standards.[9] As of August 2010, Moleskine has yet to release DEHP-free notebooks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis%282-ethylhexyl%29_phthalate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis%282-ethylhexyl%29_phthalate)
DEHP has been used as a plasticiser in medical devices such as intravenous tubing and bags, catheters, nasogastric tubes, dialysis bags and tubing, and blood bags and transfusion tubing, and air tubes. For this reason, concern has been expressed about leachates transported into the patient, especially for those requiring extensive infusions, e.g. newborns in intensive care nursery settings, hemophiliacs, and kidney dialysis patients. According to the European Commission Scientific Committee on Health and Environmental Risks (SCHER), exposure to DEHP may exceed the tolerable daily intake in some specific population groups, namely people exposed through medical procedures such as kidney dialysis.[2] The American Academy of Pediatrics has advocated not to use medical devices that can leach DEHP into patients and, instead, to resort to DEHP-free alternatives.[citation needed] In July 2002, the U.S. FDA issued a Public Health Notification on DEHP, stating in part, "We recommend considering such alternatives when these high-risk procedures are to be performed on male neonates, pregnant women who are carrying male fetuses, and peripubertal males" noting that the alternatives were to look for non-DEHP exposure solutions; they mention a database of alternatives. The CBC documentary The Disappearing Male raised concerns about sexual development in male fetal development, miscarriage (as DEHP is a pseudo-estrogen and a hormone modifier found in most plastic products such as PVC, polycarbonate, nearly all cosmetic chemical products, and many others), and as a cause of dramatically lower sperm counts in men.
Well, you already have a kid, so if you dont plan on any more, I say go with the Moleskin lol. I also thought the "move out of california" comment was funny. :lol
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The problem with the Prop 65 warnings is it's rare for anyone who labels their product with the Prop 65 warning to actually list the chemical that triggers the Prop 65 warning. It's not possible for a consumer who sees the label to make an informed decision not knowing what the chemical in question actually is. Some things are painfully obvious and expected, such as at a gas station. But PG&E or CalTrans sends these notices out for moronic things like sand. So the sand they use on roads is inherently more dangerous than the same sand in the sand box? :laugh2:
To make matters worse, the responsibility to label anything with Prop 65 falls to the manufacturer or owner (eg a location) and not determined as such by any government agent. This means that some products (locations as well) are labeled as such by the manufacture (or owner) just to cover their own butts. There's no consequence for posting the notice even if there is no known cause to do so. IMHO, this waters down the meaning of the posting especially with the point above.
This also has the opposite effect that some manufactures don't label their products appropriately. Either they're not aware of what their products contain (toys are a good example). Or they simply don't give a rats ass about your safety.
Go check out the list and see what's actually listed there. It's ---smurfing--- insane (http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/prop65_list/files/123110list.pdf). Since anything in excess causes death, everything except water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication) will probably make the list eventually.
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Just move out of California..
:laugh2:
I think something along those lines whenever I see those warnings. Seems like most everything causes cancer in California.
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Go check out the list and see what's actually listed there. It's ---smurfing--- insane. Since anything in excess causes death, everything except water will probably make the list eventually.
Careful. Dont forget about the lady that died drinking too much water to get a Wii for her kid! :P
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Go check out the list and see what's actually listed there. It's ---smurfing--- insane. Since anything in excess causes death, everything except water will probably make the list eventually.
Careful. Dont forget about the lady that died drinking too much water to get a Wii for her kid! :P
I listen that radio station. The contest was right here in my city. It's also referenced on the Wikipedia page I linked to.
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Tell your wife to be very careful and not accidentally eat the planner, and everything will be OK. :dizzy:
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Go check out the list and see what's actually listed there. It's ---smurfing--- insane. Since anything in excess causes death, everything except water will probably make the list eventually.
Careful. Dont forget about the lady that died drinking too much water to get a Wii for her kid! :P
I listen that radio station. The contest was right here in my city. It's also referenced on the Wikipedia page I linked to.
Sorry, I clicked it but I visit these forums at work, and it wouldnt let me see it.
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Just grab a 10 pack of plain ol' lab notebooks.
Like these:
http://www.amazon.com/National-Brand-Notebook-Quadrille-Sheets/dp/B002XJ2EZA (http://www.amazon.com/National-Brand-Notebook-Quadrille-Sheets/dp/B002XJ2EZA)
Scientists use that sort of thing all the time for notes, they're all paper and cardboard, and they'll last as long as anything else.
However, if you want the moleskin, I'd say go for it. I'd wager that ridiculous california warning is kinda like the warning about watches that have glowing dials. Yeah, they're radioactive, but you'd have to EAT, like, 30-40 watch dials to get enough rads to possibly cause you any harm.
+1 on TOK's comment
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Shouldn't you bee looking into these instead?
http://www.moleskineus.com/moleskine-pac-man.html (http://www.moleskineus.com/moleskine-pac-man.html)