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Title: True Grit (2010)
Post by: RTSDaddy2 on November 27, 2010, 12:52:56 am
I've not seen the original with John Wayne, but I certainly know of it.  If it were in the hands of someone besides the Cohen brothers, I'd be worried about the remake, but recent trailer leaves me believing they did what they seem to always do - bring an excellent job to it.  I'm sure it will leave the people who hate remakes ticked off, but it looks as if they did a pretty good job staying faithful to the story.  Only time will tell - out on Dec 17th, I believe (may be the tenth, don't recall exactly).
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: AtomSmasher on November 27, 2010, 01:35:49 am
It should be noted that this isn't technically a remake since this one is based off of the original book and not the movie.  Okay, so I'm grasping at straws since I generally hate remakes, but I think this one looks pretty good.

Here's the trailer for those who haven't seen it:

'True Grit' Trailer HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUiCu-zuAgM#ws)
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: danny_galaga on November 27, 2010, 02:07:38 am
Saw the trailer at the movies last night and I have to agree, it looks good. I havent seen the original movie, but then Im not a fan of John Wayne.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: RTSDaddy2 on November 27, 2010, 08:10:16 am
Thanks for the info Atom, I would have thought it was based off the original film.  I suppose then that it is a "re-invisioning" of the author's story.  I brought up remake simply because some don't want their memories of Wayne's portrayal tarnished by a new guy playing Marshall Cogburn.

It's slowly moving up my list of must-see films.  It seems a great story...and again it's been placed in the hands of two more than capable directors.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: DaOld Man on November 27, 2010, 08:29:58 am
Looks pretty good.
Whoever hasnt seen the original should watch it. One of Wayne's good movies, IMHO.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: wp34 on November 27, 2010, 09:46:52 am
I hope this does well and ushers in some more big budget westerns. It looks really good.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 28, 2010, 06:24:59 pm
They had me at "Coen Bros"
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: SNAAKE on November 28, 2010, 07:03:51 pm
coen bros anything = auto win :burgerking:


Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 29, 2010, 08:20:28 am
coen bros anything = auto win :burgerking:

Word. There isn't a single Coen Bros film I don't like.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 29, 2010, 11:55:13 am
You LIKED A Serious Man?

Loved it, actually. I own all their films.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: SNAAKE on November 30, 2010, 03:55:55 am
serious man is hilarious

so is burn after reading

both 8/10 ezez :cheers:

Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Mikezilla on November 30, 2010, 01:33:44 pm
Even Lady Killers?
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 30, 2010, 02:01:03 pm
Even Lady Killers?

I don't count it because it's a remake of another film, unlike True Grit which is a new adaptation of the novel.

Also the only one I haven't watched and don't own.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Mikezilla on November 30, 2010, 05:28:10 pm
That movie was god awful, one of the few movies were I actually fell asleep in the theatres. It was unbearable. Its right up there with Xmen 3, and Batman and Robin as worst movie ever...

Back on the western topic, I love Tombstone. Anyone see that one with Kurt Russell, and Val Kilmer?
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: AtomSmasher on November 30, 2010, 07:15:37 pm
I think The Man Who Wasn't There was easily the Coen brothers worst movie.  I'm guessing most of you just forgot about it :P

and yes, Tombstone was fantastic.  The remake of 3:10 to Yuma was pretty good too since we're talking about recent westerns.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 30, 2010, 08:17:42 pm
I think The Man Who Wasn't There was easily the Coen brothers worst movie.  I'm guessing most of you just forgot about it :P

I quite enjoy that one. Probably the hardest one to watch is Blood Simple, which is still really good.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: SNAAKE on November 30, 2010, 08:43:19 pm
I think The Man Who Wasn't There was easily the Coen brothers worst movie.  I'm guessing most of you just forgot about it :P


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/man_who_wasnt_there/ (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/man_who_wasnt_there/)  
this? 80% on RT cant be too bad. I didnt watch it though. I will check netflix/torrents now.



Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 30, 2010, 08:50:06 pm
I will check netflix/torrents now.

Most of their films are on Netflix streaming.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: SNAAKE on November 30, 2010, 08:55:28 pm
can you use same account on multiple devices?? my brother has netflix but he's always watching something on his laptop. can I still use his account on my ps3??

(little off topic)

Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 30, 2010, 08:57:27 pm
Depends how many discs at a time he has on his plan. I think you get ONE more than the amount of discs you get. (I'm on a 1 disc plan, and can stream to two devices at the same time, and my buddy is on 3 discs and can do 4 devices at once).
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Howard_Casto on November 30, 2010, 09:26:52 pm
Well they are nnow remaking films that featured the duke... the world has ended.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: wp34 on November 30, 2010, 09:35:48 pm
It should be noted that this isn't technically a remake since this one is based off of the original book and not the movie. 

I started the book tonight.  So far it is pretty good. 
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: shmokes on November 30, 2010, 10:13:29 pm
The original was reworked into a John Wayne vehicle even though the little girl is the main protagonist in the book, from what I understand.  The Coen brothers are adapting the novel as it was meant to be, rather than choosing a star and writing a story around him.  I've not seen the original or read the book, though.  That's all second-hand.

The Man Who Wasn't There was fantastic.  Lady Killers is their worst, but it was still perfectly watchable.  And Tom Hanks's performance was great.  The movie just wasn't that good.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Mikezilla on December 01, 2010, 12:18:28 pm
Lady Killers is their worst, but it was still perfectly watchable.  And Tom Hanks's performance was great.  The movie just wasn't that good.

Tom Hanks is one of my favorite actors, but man, if I was watching that movie at home, I would have turned it off and not even have finished it. Tom Hanks couldnt even make that movie good, I see what youre saying though.

Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Grasshopper on December 03, 2010, 01:50:54 pm
I thought the original was hugely overrated. Actually, I think all of John Wayne's movies are overrated with the notable exception of The Shootist.

However, the Coen brothers know their ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, so I might just check out the remake.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: wp34 on December 05, 2010, 11:36:23 pm
I just finished the book "True Grit" today and it was really good. Judging from the previews the Coen Brothers are making a faithful adaptation.  The book is 100% from the girl's perspective in the way the Harry Potter books are (mostly) with Harry.  You are not made aware of anything happening when she is not around except in flashback.  I expect they will change that in the movie just to keep Bridges and Damon on screen more.  From the trailer it looks like the major plot-points from the book are all in the movie.

I can say I pictured Bridges and not Wayne while reading the book.  Bridges is a great choice and fits the role much better than Wayne-- and I am a Wayne fan.  Damon does not seem like a good fit for Le Bouf but will probably do a good job.

I'm not as much an expert on Coen movies as some of you but one thing I really like is their dialog.  It is usually very quirky and you have to pay attention to get the true meaning.  This makes repeat viewings more enjoyable IMHO.  The book is written in a similar style and I expect this is part of what drew them to the material.  I could imagine much of the dialog from the book making it into the movie unchanged.


Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: drventure on December 23, 2010, 09:16:55 pm
Damn. Just got back from True Grit.

One dang fine movie!

Very unlike what you'd generally consider a Coen Brother's movie. They stayed +very+ true to the "old western" motif. No quirkiness and whatnot. But the acting, characters and dialog were all spot on.

Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Gray_Area on December 23, 2010, 10:01:50 pm
Damn. Just got back from True Grit.

One dang fine movie!

Very unlike what you'd generally consider a Coen Brother's movie. They stayed +very+ true to the "old western" motif. No quirkiness and whatnot. But the acting, characters and dialog were all spot on.



It was pretty good. I thought it would be a bit darker. I wouldn't have paid full price for it.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: drventure on December 23, 2010, 10:13:11 pm
Yeah, I saw the matinee for 4$. Pushing 10$ for a regular movie ticket is tough to justify in any case.

I thought the comedy was really well done, though. It was just dark enough, IMHO.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on December 24, 2010, 03:45:20 pm
I have plans to see it Jan 1st with some friends. Really looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: SNAAKE on December 27, 2010, 02:24:20 pm
watched serious man again last night :lol :lol easily up there with big lebowski.


also watched "the man who wasnt there". thought it was pretty good. kinda like fargo.

Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Mikezilla on December 30, 2010, 02:05:00 pm
Talk about a franchise sucking... I HATED Transformers. The only redeeming thing that Michael Bay did was give Optimus his original voice. Peter Cullen I believe. But then bam. Gave him lips and flames. "Gee, lets see how gay we can make A 30 foot tall robot that turns into a truck." Ugh.

Didnt mean to derail the thread, I still want to see True Grit.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: shmokes on December 31, 2010, 03:17:26 pm
The only redeeming thing that Michael Bay did . . .

No matter what the subject, no matter what the movie, I pretty much know that I can stop reading right there because whatever follows will be nonsense.   :)

In other news, going to True Grit tonight.  Got the babysitter.  Excited.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 03, 2011, 08:47:23 pm
Watched Winter's Bone last night.  It's an extremely similar and superior movie.  Reminded me why I'm scared witless in rural Missouri and Oklahoma.

 :cheers:

I have that in my disc queue. Looks pretty good.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: drventure on January 03, 2011, 09:47:39 pm
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Then it says "Transformers 3" and about 20 guys in the audience simultaneously said "ahhhhh.... ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---."

Were you in the audience when me and my wife saw Tron?  :D

The EXACT same thing happened!
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: boykster on January 03, 2011, 10:27:17 pm
Still havent' seen True Grit (I rarely see flicks in the theater) but I'm a bug Coen brothers fan.  I also REALLY enjoyed Winter's Bone - it was depressing and entertaining at the same time...
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: shmokes on January 05, 2011, 10:50:12 am
I saw it.  It was really good and Jeff Bridges was excellent.  But it wasn't near Coen brother's best.  It was far too conventional for them.  There was almost no trace of their typical quirkiness.  Still worth a watch, though.  It was well acted and beautifully shot and the story was interesting enough.  It's just no O Brother or No Country or Fargo or Raising Arizona or Barton Fink or Miller's Crossing, etc.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 05, 2011, 01:10:04 pm
I saw it.  It was really good and Jeff Bridges was excellent.  But it wasn't near Coen brother's best.  It was far too conventional for them.  There was almost no trace of their typical quirkiness.  Still worth a watch, though.  It was well acted and beautifully shot and the story was interesting enough.  It's just no O Brother or No Country or Fargo or Raising Arizona or Barton Fink or Miller's Crossing, etc.

Well, you're comparing several of their original works to a faithful book adaptation, so of course it won't have the quirkiness of the majority of their work. I did laugh a LOT during this movie, though. The story is predictable, but when you consider the age of the story, it makes sense that it would be.

I loved the movie.
9.5/10
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Ginsu Victim on January 05, 2011, 01:29:45 pm
It was definitely quirky, it just wasn't Barton Fink/Raising Arizona levels of quirk (nor should it have been).

What I don't get are the comments that say it has no humor. THAT is a gigantic lie!
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 05, 2011, 05:24:00 pm
Saw it today, went in without any prejudice about what a Coen brothers flick should be (some of you folks should try that sometime) and loved it.

Well done.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: boykster on January 05, 2011, 06:51:17 pm
Saw it today, went in without any prejudice about what a Coen brothers flick should be (some of you folks should try that sometime) and loved it.

I tried that once with a Michael Bay flick (The Island) - I really wanted to like the movie based on the premise and was willing to set aside that it was a Bay movie and give it a chance.

Yeah - didn't work out so well  :dizzy:

 ;D
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 06, 2011, 07:05:26 am
Well, sometimes the prejudices are actually true ...  ;D
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: shmokes on January 06, 2011, 11:14:08 am
It is a Coen brothers movie . . . to say that doesn't come with expectations is sort of absurd.  To say that you can go in without any prejudice about what a Coen brothers movie should be is equally absurd.  Once you know something you can't just voluntarily unknow it.  Expecting certain things from the Coen brothers is just as valid as expecting certain things from Michael Bay.  And they both tend to live up to expectations with about the same consistency.

And I understand that it was a book adaptation, but it was not as good as most of their other work (including No Country for Old Men, another book adaptation).  I don't really care why it wasn't as good as the others--whether it was because it was an adaptation of an inferior work or because they phoned it in or because they ran out of money.  I just care that it wasn't as good, for whatever reason.  With that said, the movie was still really good.  I liked it a lot.  I just don't really want to see it again.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 06, 2011, 12:01:00 pm
It is a Coen brothers movie . . . to say that doesn't come with expectations is sort of absurd.  To say that you can go in without any prejudice about what a Coen brothers movie should be is equally absurd.  Once you know something you can't just voluntarily unknow it.  Expecting certain things from the Coen brothers is just as valid as expecting certain things from Michael Bay.  And they both tend to live up to expectations with about the same consistency.

---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- ... it is completely possible to go in without any expectation as to how the movie should be -- the same way that you should be able to look past any other prejudice to see things clearly.

You certainly don't have to and if you are disappointed because you were expecting something different, that is certainly valid. It doesn't negate the potential to make a conscious decision to avoid expectations based on past works.

I knew it was a Coen brothers movie -- I just chose what to expect out of it.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Mikezilla on January 06, 2011, 01:01:33 pm
I plan on seeing it this weekend, after I do, Ill have more to post.

PBJ, to get an idea in your taste of movies, list some of your favorites. I havent seen winters bone, so try to list some mainstream movies. Oh, and no foreign movies cause I dont watch those either.  ;D
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: Gray_Area on January 06, 2011, 11:57:09 pm
It was a great movie. It wasn't in the same camp as Burn After Reading, and that was a little disappointing.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: danny_galaga on January 28, 2011, 06:55:55 am
Saw it today, went in without any prejudice about what a Coen brothers flick should be (some of you folks should try that sometime) and loved it.

Well done.

I agree. Just saw this tonight. My lack of prejudice comes from the fact I forgot who was directing it! That girl was brilliant. Totally pulled off that whole 'kid who's never had a chance to just be a kid' angle. I haven't read the book, but I was impressed with the realism, especially spoken. The speech, and the sentiment. For instance, the Texas Ranger saying to the girl something along the lines of 'I had the notion I would steal a kiss from you while I was watching you sleep'. In a modern context, how thoroughly disturbing, a 30 something year old man saying that to a 14 year old girl. But its the 1870's, and times much different to our own.

I think my only disappointment was that Josh Brolin didn't have a very big part to play, even though the whole story centres on his character.

4/5 Sharps Carbines (",)

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my score for recent movies you may have seen:

  5/5 - The Kings Speech, Michael Clayton, In Bruges, Gran Torino, Mary and Max

4.5/5 - Taken, Iron Man, Reign Over Me, Watchmen, The girl with the dragon tattoo

  4/5 - True Grit, Traitor, Bedtime Stories, Sunshine, pineapple express

3.5/5 - 300, Max Payne, You dont mess with the Zohan, Yes Man

  3/5 - That new Indiana Jones flick, Disturbia, That new TMNT flick,

2.5/5 - Angels and Demons

  2/5 - The Love Guru. Note: My 2 is probably someone elses 1. Just leaving room for worse!

Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: ahofle on January 31, 2011, 03:42:53 pm
That girl was brilliant. Totally pulled off that whole 'kid who's never had a chance to just be a kid' angle.

All I hear from the reviews is how she steals every scene she's in.  Maybe it's just me, but I personally grew tired of the whole 'look at how beyond my years I am!' thing pretty quickly.  Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a good movie, but it was mostly because of Jeff Bridge's character.
Title: Re: True Grit (2010)
Post by: danny_galaga on February 02, 2011, 03:11:31 am
That girl was brilliant. Totally pulled off that whole 'kid who's never had a chance to just be a kid' angle.

All I hear from the reviews is how she steals every scene she's in.  Maybe it's just me, but I personally grew tired of the whole 'look at how beyond my years I am!' thing pretty quickly.  Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a good movie, but it was mostly because of Jeff Bridge's character.

You're just hot for 'The Dude'  ;)