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Title: Nano mobos
Post by: Ophelius on April 12, 2010, 07:15:57 pm
I found out about these "nano" motherboards that are used for embedded software in kiosks, terminals etc:
http://estore.bcmcom.com/ (http://estore.bcmcom.com/)

I thought these might be great to use in an arcade machine because of the low power usage and low heat(some don't need fans on the cpu). I figure the components might last longer this way too. I was looking at this model here for my project:
http://estore.bcmcom.com/product_info.php?products_id=56 (http://estore.bcmcom.com/product_info.php?products_id=56)
More specs: http://www.bcmcom.com/bcm_product_NX530Z.htm (http://www.bcmcom.com/bcm_product_NX530Z.htm)

Anybody have experience with these or used one in their machines?
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Epyx on April 12, 2010, 07:29:34 pm
Quite a few people here use these Atom ITX boards. They are "ok" for the classics but begins to struggle on some late 80s and early 90s titles.  So if you are strictly a classics guy you should be fine...if you want a bit more, look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Ophelius on April 12, 2010, 07:37:13 pm
It would be only for older games, so I think it would be fast enough. What I'm curious about is would the components most likely last much longer because of the low heat and energy?
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Epyx on April 12, 2010, 07:38:16 pm
Theoretically, but in practice it is all a crapshoot ;)

Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: gryhnd on April 12, 2010, 07:47:57 pm
When I scanned the subjects in my "unread posts", I swore at first this said "Man boobs"...

moving on...

I've had the same thoughts as the OP. Just a few days ago I was checking out the Pico ITX boards, which lead me to the Beagle Board (the latter didn't seem ideal for MAME, but it has been done).
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Ophelius on April 12, 2010, 08:09:18 pm
I also found these too:
http://www.compulab.co.il/all-products/html/products.htm (http://www.compulab.co.il/all-products/html/products.htm)
I'm pretty sure you can customize them to suit your needs.
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Bender on April 12, 2010, 10:27:37 pm
Quite a few people here use these Atom ITX boards. They are "ok" for the classics but begins to struggle on some late 80s and early 90s titles.  So if you are strictly a classics guy you should be fine...if you want a bit more, look elsewhere.

What kinda specks would you need to run some of those late 80's early 90's games?
I'm not talking about NFL Blitz or anything

what about one of thesehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500027 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500027)
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Epyx on April 13, 2010, 12:43:41 am
The Atoms start having difficulty with Mortal Kombat etc and barely run them at 80-90% from the benchmarks I have seen.

Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Gatt on April 13, 2010, 04:48:14 am
Quite a few people here use these Atom ITX boards. They are "ok" for the classics but begins to struggle on some late 80s and early 90s titles.  So if you are strictly a classics guy you should be fine...if you want a bit more, look elsewhere.

What kinda specks would you need to run some of those late 80's early 90's games?
I'm not talking about NFL Blitz or anything

what about one of thesehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500027 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500027)


Courtesy of Ischo on mameworld.net

http://www.ischo.com/mamebench/ (http://www.ischo.com/mamebench/)

1.6ghz Atom benchmarks for every game,  any given Atom should perform fairly close to those.
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Bender on April 13, 2010, 10:15:24 am
That's great info
Thanks
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Epyx on April 13, 2010, 11:26:33 am
Very good info!  It performs about what I expected perhaps a bit better...ok for classics but again for many of the games I like this would be unacceptable.

Some of the games I like to have running at full frame rate include the following:

Starblade
Raiden Fighters Jet
Raiden Fighters/Raiden Fighters 2
Twin Cobra 2
Street Fighter EX2
Golden Axe: RODA
Elevator Action Returns
Stun Runner

But that's just me!

 
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Ophelius on April 13, 2010, 02:23:08 pm
Cool! That's around 90% of roms that run at full frame rate or close.
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Epyx on April 13, 2010, 02:26:55 pm
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Cool! That's around 90% of roms that run at full frame rate or close.

Agreed, but keep in mind you will want to be slightly above for the Roms that read 60fps average frame rate as they will experience dips during gameplay that bring you below what i would deem playable...

Imo, I would think just the ones that are 80-100fps or above would be playable during most situations and anything lower you are risking slowdowns.
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: Encryptor on April 13, 2010, 03:34:43 pm

Courtesy of Ischo on mameworld.net

http://www.ischo.com/mamebench/ (http://www.ischo.com/mamebench/)

1.6ghz Atom benchmarks for every game,  any given Atom should perform fairly close to those.

I can't even get that site to come up. Goes to dns search and lists recommendations for sites.

Encryptor
Title: Re: Nano mobos
Post by: WhereEaglesDare on April 13, 2010, 04:25:50 pm
1.2 Inch Thin HDTV! Nvidia Ion HTPC Tested, 480Hz ... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrSfTTcc5YQ#ws)

You really want the Nvidia Ion with an Atom, it will run everything to some of teh latest, including Team Fortress 2, BioShock, and Street Fighter 4.