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Title: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 16, 2010, 11:37:06 am
I have been waiting and watching for about 10 years and I FINALLY got a good deal on a Cliff Hanger cab.  It's a Crowns Golf right now, but has potential....

$200 was a great price to me....
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: severdhed on March 16, 2010, 11:51:12 am
congratulations.  i'm not familiar with that game, but i can understand the excitement of finding the cabinet you have been searching for. (thats how i felt when i found my DK)
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: Havok on March 16, 2010, 02:11:37 pm
That is going to cost you crazy money to convert back...
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Post by: opt2not on March 16, 2010, 02:13:31 pm
Congrats! Cliff Hanger is an awesome game.

I've never seen that golf game before...and wow, that joystick looks really interesting! Got a close up of it?

<sigh> I'm still on the look-out for a Robotron cabinet...that's my Holy Grail.  :'(
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Post by: romshark on March 16, 2010, 03:22:33 pm
So are you going to use a PC with Daphne running, or are you doing a full restore and using the real Laserdisc system?
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Post by: ark_ader on March 16, 2010, 05:28:41 pm
It would be worth more it was all original parts.
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Post by: southpaw13 on March 17, 2010, 12:25:10 am
Cost to restore...$0...I have been collecting the parts for a long time...

I am actually going to run Daphne in it because someone made a new video for Cliffhanger from Blu-ray discs and it looks awesome...

Here is the link:
http://atlas.kennesaw.edu/~dhirschl/cliffhanger/ (http://atlas.kennesaw.edu/~dhirschl/cliffhanger/)

Also, Mame runs Cliffhanger now so in theory I could play other games with the cab...

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Post by: SavannahLion on March 17, 2010, 01:18:31 am
Holy smokes, that's Lupin! Never knew it was made into a game.
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Post by: southpaw13 on March 17, 2010, 09:09:34 am
Oh yes, Japan animation.  The original game was a peice of S__T.  The disc would freeze about halfway through and you had to kick the game to keep it running.  From what I heard, Stern gave up on the cab and sold them all to the maker of Crown Golf.  They still have the original overspray colors on the inside.  "Supposively" it is a highly collectable cab...I don't know or care...just glad to have one...

Southpaw
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: Havok on March 17, 2010, 09:44:51 am
Cost to restore...$0...I have been collecting the parts for a long time...

I am actually going to run Daphne in it because someone made a new video for Cliffhanger from Blu-ray discs and it looks awesome...

Here is the link:
http://atlas.kennesaw.edu/~dhirschl/cliffhanger/ (http://atlas.kennesaw.edu/~dhirschl/cliffhanger/)

Also, Mame runs Cliffhanger now so in theory I could play other games with the cab...



Wow, can't believe that guy spent all that time doing that. I wonder how the Mame version compares to his?
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Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 17, 2010, 10:14:56 am
I just got ahold of The Castle of Cagliostro this weekend. One of the few remaining Miyazaki films I haven't seen.
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 17, 2010, 10:24:02 am
The original laserdisc (used in Mame) is aweful!  It looks like it was projected onto a white wall when captured for the the laserdisc video.  The remake is 1000% better and got me excited to play the game again....if you can find it (PD) get it and run in Daphne....Unbelievable....
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Post by: Havok on March 17, 2010, 10:42:09 am
I'll have to grab it and check it out then...
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Post by: isucamper on March 17, 2010, 12:07:11 pm
Very impressed with that guys work.  I would like to try it out.

One question I've had about running this game in MAME and Daphne. 

How come the MAME version seems to have extra scenes?  For instance, when you die, it show a guy getting lynched, but the Daphne version does not. 
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 17, 2010, 04:48:55 pm
In Daphne, it's an option that you can turn on and off....
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Post by: mvsfan on March 17, 2010, 09:20:01 pm
I have been waiting and watching for about 10 years and I FINALLY got a good deal on a Cliff Hanger cab.  It's a Crowns Golf right now, but has potential....

$200 was a great price to me....

$200 is about you being a legal thief in the night for something with a working monitor.

I paid $400 for the original strikers 1945 i always wanted, minus the jamma board, (since i already had one i let the seller keep it) It came with a "working" monitor, That still doesnt work. I had my chassis restored by a very well known and reputable monitor guy, for $125, and i got it back and all of the strange graphics glitches disappeared. But the damn monitor is still way way too dark and the best news i got from the boss is that my tube is toast.

I will never again buy a cabinet with a working monitor unless it is complete and working 100%.

otherwise, i would have given him $200 for the nice cab, and seriously looking into and exploring my option to buy a makvision hybrid Vga monitor brand new. If i didnt lose the extra $200 on the original purchase, Plus $125 to repair the chassis, i would have already had a working vertical beast that was complete.

Instead, i am using my old 17" lcd monitor that came with our computer 6 years ago.

Meanwhile the first one i built from scratch about 6 years ago has a 25" Makvision vga hybrid, so i do know the difference. I bought that monitor brand new with warranty and it hasnt even hiccuped in 6 years.

In my opinion, unless you see something running brightly in all of its brilliance, Avoid the hel out of it and stick with good, clean cabinets that dont come with a screen. another thing to consider is that Even if you do get a cabinet with a working monitor, you are still dealing with 15, 20, or more year old Junk when you really think about it. How much longer will it last, who knows.

Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: isucamper on March 17, 2010, 11:47:38 pm
In Daphne, it's an option that you can turn on and off....

Were the scenes in the original arcade?

Also, looking at that guy's sight more, it doesn't look like he's got any HD encodes working with Daphne, if I'm understanding him. 
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on March 18, 2010, 02:04:19 pm
<sigh> I'm still on the look-out for a Robotron cabinet...that's my Holy Grail.  :'(
+ 1
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 18, 2010, 09:07:51 pm
Yes, the option was available at the arcade to switch the hanging scene on and off...

True, the HD version doesn't work....yet.....
BUT, the down-converted video he made from original HD source is by far the best way to play it. 
Has anyone else find it and try it....you will not be dissapointed!
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Post by: gaijinking on March 20, 2010, 05:23:57 pm
I haven't played the remastered version yet, but the original arcade version as I recall, looked kinda muddy and dark just like the Daphne version.
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 21, 2010, 09:51:23 pm
Daphne and Mame both use the original laser disc which is very muddy.  The remastered versions is made frame by frame from a DVD/Blue-ray source.  MUCH BETTER!  Daphne will play the remastered version, but Mame will not.  Mame is emulating the original version which is what Mame was intended to do.

But the remastered version is very cool!!!
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Post by: RayB on March 24, 2010, 05:16:18 pm
southpaw, are those the original colors? It looks great as the golf game.  :)
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Post by: southpaw13 on March 24, 2010, 09:30:06 pm
Not original for Cliffhanger....but original for Crowns Golf...
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Post by: cmoses on March 25, 2010, 09:58:04 am
Very nice indeed.  Cliff Hanger was my Holy Grail before I realized how difficult it would be to fully restore (finding a cabinet, getting a laser disc, a working LD player, etc).  Just finding a cabinet is commendable.  Congratulations on your find and good luck with the restore/mameing.

The original Cliff Hanger cabinets were blue and pink in color (see link). They also had chrome T-Molding on the cabinets which look to be intact and in good condition on yours. 

http://www.joystixamusements.com/photos/CLIFFHANGER.jpg (http://www.joystixamusements.com/photos/CLIFFHANGER.jpg)

I have the updated Cliff Hanger 2009 restoration running on my Mame cab in Daphne and it is much better quality then the original.  No dark and murky scenes, everything is very clear.  Definitely worth seeking out if you want to play this laser disc game.

So are you planning to repaint the cabinet to match the original?  Any idea on the color codes for the paint colors?  Please keep us informed of the process and and your plans.

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Post by: Turnarcades on March 25, 2010, 07:53:26 pm
I wish they'd do resto work on other titles from the LD's; they should hand it to Lucas and ILM. Then again, we'd probably end up with Dirk turned into feckin Jar-Jar Binks or some ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- like that...
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 26, 2010, 08:28:00 pm
Here are the paint codes....
I have been collecting data on the cab for years!  These pics are from 2006...
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Post by: MAYAman on March 29, 2010, 08:50:09 pm
Thats an awesome feeling man, congrats!
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 30, 2010, 12:19:51 pm
The horror! I found a Chuck E Cheese token in it from 2005!  My Holy Grail had kids crawling all over it!
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: cmoses on March 30, 2010, 04:36:33 pm
The horror! I found a Chuck E Cheese token in it from 2005!  My Holy Grail had kids crawling all over it!

The Cliff Hanger I used to play as a kid was in a Chuck E. Cheese on Long Island.  Now this was the early 80's so they were a little cooler back then.  They actually had a lot of true arcade games at the time and not just those silly ticket redemption games.  Spent many summer days in there playing Cliff Hanger, Donkey Kong, Burger Time, Galaga, etc.

So where the original colors showing inside the cabinet?  Any pictures for us to see?
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on March 30, 2010, 11:04:27 pm
Some colors on the inside, but I have to completely rebuild the front of the cab to move over the coin door, make an access panel, and a laser disc door.
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Post by: opt2not on May 13, 2010, 03:01:24 am
Any progress on this cab?
I was perusing the restoration threads at klov, saw this one and thought of yours:
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=17395 (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=17395)
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Post by: Rusty Shackelford on May 13, 2010, 08:16:39 am
I wish they'd do resto work on other titles from the LD's; they should hand it to Lucas and ILM. Then again, we'd probably end up with Dirk turned into feckin Jar-Jar Binks or some ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- like that...

There is a few versions of Dragons Lair aswell as a HD one.

The original Cliff Hanger quality is terrible its amazing that someone actully 'passed' it for prodution. Like the resoration site says it looks like they just pointed a camera at the film playing on another tv!

Im quite a Cliff Hanger fan myself. Id never heard of it untill I got Daphne, but it didnt work (its been taken off) so I got the remastered version (its great). I have been toying with the idea of a Cliff Hanger themed cab for a while.

Anyone know of any vectorised artwork out there?
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: Turnarcades on May 13, 2010, 08:58:47 am
Cliff Hanger works on the Daphne build I use - check around as there are some customised versions out there.
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Post by: Beretta on May 13, 2010, 01:36:33 pm
never heard of this golf game, glad you finally found your cab.

for a conversion this is exceptionally well done imo.. i'd never have guessed this was'nt original.
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Post by: lcmgadgets on May 13, 2010, 02:53:23 pm
Oh my God! I remember Crown's Golf! Great game. Cliffy was much better, though. Congrats!
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: southpaw13 on January 26, 2012, 10:31:41 pm
Finished it!!!!  2 years later  :cheers:
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Post by: yotsuya on January 26, 2012, 10:57:00 pm
Loved 'Cliff Hanger' as a kid. Congrats!

 :applaud:
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Post by: boykster on January 27, 2012, 12:13:20 am
Nice! Cliff Hanger was the first laser game I played - LOVED IT!  Its still one of my guilty pleasures.  I spent hours setting up Daphne specifically to play it
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 27, 2012, 07:11:29 am
 :applaud:
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Post by: ark_ader on January 27, 2012, 07:33:11 am
:applaud:

+ 1000

Fantastic job!!!!
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Post by: Mac Green on January 27, 2012, 10:35:59 am
Finished it!!!!  2 years later  :cheers:
Give the man a hand  :applaud:
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Post by: Gray_Area on January 27, 2012, 06:31:30 pm
...and how many dollars?  (Just curious, given Havok's comment.)
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Post by: opt2not on January 27, 2012, 06:57:40 pm
Thanks for closing off this thread!  It looks wonderful!
Great job on the front access panel, looks nice and handy for getting at the hardware. Did you have to pull that panel right off and replace it?

Man this cabinet came a long way from what you started with, it looks absolutely brilliant!  :notworthy:
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Post by: southpaw13 on January 27, 2012, 08:16:17 pm
Had to rebuild the entire front, the entire bottom, and about a foot of the bottom of the cab.  Money in cab? 

Cab  200
Monitor  150
Controls, buttons, joystick, encoder 100
Computer - free (used an old one)
Paint, wood, brackets, missing metal pieces 100
Used a lot of old wiring.
Artwork-bought years ago-think it was around 250

Just a guess but definitely under 1000
Title: Re: My Holy Grail just arrived!
Post by: lordtodd75 on July 20, 2020, 09:45:26 pm
Reviving this old thread. I just found out that I have what appears to be a cliffhanger cab. I was originally going to sell it but now I’m considering keeping it. I loved the laserdisc games as a kid. What would this cab be worth nowadays?
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Post by: Howard_Casto on July 21, 2020, 12:52:57 am
You don't have a Cliffhanger.... look back at the original thread. 
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Post by: lordtodd75 on July 21, 2020, 01:26:21 am
It seems like a cliffhanger. The profile is dead on. What am I supposed to be looking at in the original thread?

Edit: I checked my post. Looks like a crown golf. Jumped the gun  :dunno
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Post by: lcmgadgets on November 20, 2020, 12:49:40 pm
A cliffhanger cab! 1 of my favourite games of all time! Congrats!  :cheers: