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Title: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on December 27, 2021, 02:17:38 pm
Hey guys

I'm converting one of my Electrocoin Midi jamma cabs into a vertical, single player, 8-way groovymame cab.

It'll be running 15Khz vertical raster games, with the control panel set out as follows: -

Button2, Button1, Joy8way, Button1, Button2

So single joystick in the middle, 2 buttons for either right or left handed play.

I'm looking for any obvious omissions from the following game list.  I don't really want anything on there later than mid-nineties.  And I'm not a fan of bullet-hell shooters so those are already very limited in my selection below.

I've included a few 2-player shooters in the list, but obviously with 1 joystick you won't be able to play with 2 players simultaneously, which is fine.

I'm not having any 2- or 4-way games on this cab.  I have another cab in mind for those with a better suited joystick, so this is 8-ways only.

Have I missed anything decent?  :)

 :cheers:

1942
1943: The Battle of Midway
Alpine Ski
Arabian
Batsugun
Bells & Whistles
Bomb Jack
Commando
Dangerous Seed
Dig Dug II   <-- klov lists this as 8-way, but it seems to not allow diagonals?
Dogyuun
Dragon Spirit
Fire Shark
Flying Shark
Final Star Force
Gemini Wing
Gorf
Gryzor (Contra)
Gunbird
Gunbird 2
Gun Frontier
Gyruss
Halley's Comet
Jackal
Juno First
Kangaroo
Lethal Thunder
Lightning Fighters
Lizard Wizard
Legendary Wings
Mad Gear
Mercs
Motos
Nostradamus
Out Zone
Pandora's Palace
Phelios
Plus Alpha
Q*bert
Raiden
Raiden II
Roc'n Rope
Scramble
Super Cobra
Slap Fight (Alcon)
Thunder Dragon
Terra Cresta
Tiger Heli
Time Pilot
Time Pilot '84
Truxton
Twin Cobra
Twin Hawk
Valtric
Varth: Operation Thunderstorm
Vimana
Viper Phase 1
Wiz, The
Wonder Planet
Xevious
Zaxxon
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: PL1 on December 27, 2021, 03:47:34 pm
Dig Dug II   <-- klov lists this as 8-way, but it seems to not allow diagonals?
The Gaming History entry shows it as a 4-way.
https://www.arcade-history.com/?n=dig-dug-ii&page=detail&id=638 (https://www.arcade-history.com/?n=dig-dug-ii&page=detail&id=638)

The good news is that it is very tolerant of diagonal inputs so you move in the last cardinal (U/D/L/R) direction triggered/held -- unlike Donkey Kong where hitting a diagonal stops you moving until the diagonal is released.

Dig Dug II will work fine with an 8-way stick.   ;D


Scott
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Thenasty on December 27, 2021, 05:49:01 pm
you got to add Gaplus or Galaga 3 on that list (even it's only a 1 button game).

Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: PL1 on December 27, 2021, 05:59:18 pm
How about Phoenix?


Scott
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on December 27, 2021, 06:16:11 pm
Ah Gaplus!  Good one, can't believe I missed that out!  :applaud:

Phoenix looks to be 2-way?  So I'll probably leave that for my other vertical cab.  :cheers:
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Zebidee on December 28, 2021, 03:01:30 am
I've found that Contra is a very popular game in Thailand, though it is a two-player game as well.

2-way games like Phoenix and Galaga would translate well to an 8-way joystick. I've run them on my cabs with 8-way joys and all has been good, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on December 28, 2021, 05:45:37 am
I've found that Contra is a very popular game in Thailand, though it is a two-player game as well.

2-way games like Phoenix and Galaga would translate well to an 8-way joystick. I've run them on my cabs with 8-way joys and all has been good, or am I missing something?

I think they work better on an 8-way joystick than 4-way yeah.   In my case though I'm planning on using another cab with a dedicated 2-way joystick, running a MiSTer for the 2-way games, as i think the majority of those are supported on that platform. 

:cheers:
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Thenasty on December 29, 2021, 11:02:06 pm
you can also add "War of of the Bugs"

Nice Centipede style game.
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: bollwerk on December 30, 2021, 06:31:02 pm
Galaga '88

Nevermind .. that's a 2-way game.
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Mike A on December 30, 2021, 06:54:25 pm
Kicker.
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on December 30, 2021, 07:02:16 pm
Kicker.

That's 4-way innit?
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on December 30, 2021, 07:02:46 pm
you can also add "War of of the Bugs"

Nice Centipede style game.

Thanks! Added  :cheers:
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Mike A on December 30, 2021, 08:02:56 pm
Kicker.

That's 4-way innit?

Yes. But it never had a dedicated cab as far as I know.

When I was a kid I played it at the arcade in a Time Pilot cab.

I played it in some other cab at another arcade and that was 8 way too.

My childhood experiences have dulled my need for a 4 way stick for this game.
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Mike A on December 30, 2021, 08:03:41 pm
If you plan on building a 4 way vertical cab then just save it for that one.
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on December 31, 2021, 04:24:07 am
Kicker.

That's 4-way innit?

Yes. But it never had a dedicated cab as far as I know.

When I was a kid I played it at the arcade in a Time Pilot cab.

I played it in some other cab at another arcade and that was 8 way too.

My childhood experiences have dulled my need for a 4 way stick for this game.

Heh it's funny because it looks like it would be an 8-way game, and I always thought it was tbh, but checking yesterday and everywhere says its 4-way!  Ah well, I'll leave it for the 4-way cab. :)
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Thenasty on December 31, 2021, 10:23:24 am
Q-Bert (is on your list) is a 4-way DIAGONAL dunno how easy/hard to play it with an 8-way.
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Zebidee on December 31, 2021, 05:32:55 pm
Q-Bert (is on your list) is a 4-way DIAGONAL dunno how easy/hard to play it with an 8-way.
Qbert deserves a cab for itself
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on January 01, 2022, 06:29:41 am
Q-Bert (is on your list) is a 4-way DIAGONAL dunno how easy/hard to play it with an 8-way.
Qbert deserves a cab for itself

Yeah, the reason it's going on my 8-way cab, is because at least it's possible to play on that... not possible on a normal 4-way cab.   Of course I'd rather have an original Q*Bert, but until then, this is the next best thing! :)
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Zebidee on January 01, 2022, 06:33:02 am
Q-Bert (is on your list) is a 4-way DIAGONAL dunno how easy/hard to play it with an 8-way.
Qbert deserves a cab for itself

Yeah, the reason it's going on my 8-way cab, is because at least it's possible to play on that... not possible on a normal 4-way cab.   Of course I'd rather have an original Q*Bert, but until then, this is the next best thing! :)

I've tried playing QBert with an 8-way a few times before, never pretty :)
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Thenasty on January 01, 2022, 11:23:11 am
here is a mod I did with my 8-way stick adding a diagonal leaf switch for Q-bert, Congo Bongo etc..

This switches are installed diagonally on the bottom of a Happ 360 8-way stick.

It works pretty well.


http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,25385.msg208808.html#msg208808


Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: PL1 on January 01, 2022, 01:49:43 pm
here is a mod I did with my 8-way stick adding a diagonal leaf switch for Q-bert, Congo Bongo etc..

This switches are installed diagonally on the bottom of a Happ 360 8-way stick.
Interesting.   :cheers:

I wonder how well a variation on that mod would work if you used a Happ Super and a 3d printed holder for leaf switches.
- Mount the holder the same way as the GGG SUPER 4-way™ Precision True Restrictor (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=310).
- The (#12 wood?) screws are huge, but the holes are already in the Super base so you don't have to do any precision drilling.   ;D
- If properly designed in OpenSCAD, the mount would be parametric so you can customise the X-, Y-, and Z-axis position of the switches by adjusting three variables and re-rendering the part. (no special programming skills required)
- The mod might also work with other joysticks, assuming there is a good way to attach the switches + holder assembly and there is enough shaft length.

(http://www.groovygamegear.com/webstore/images/large/Super4way_LRG.jpg)  (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=120475.0;attach=185220;image)


Scott
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: ericball on January 12, 2022, 11:19:50 am
Congo Bongo & Q*Bert are playable with an 8-way with a square restrictor, less playable with an octagonal restrictor, likely unplayable with a circular restrictor.
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Jimbo on January 12, 2022, 05:34:11 pm
Congo Bongo & Q*Bert are playable with an 8-way with a square restrictor, less playable with an octagonal restrictor, likely unplayable with a circular restrictor.

Thanks guys, I have an 8-way with a square gate.  They seem to play OK, but I am not a wiz at these games.  It'll do for this cab :)
Title: Re: vertical 8way cab... recommend me some games!
Post by: Thenasty on January 18, 2022, 09:21:58 pm
IMAGO would be a good addition.