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Title: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:19:28 pm
I dragged a Street Fighter cab out of some dude's basement in a sketchy neighborhood in Rockford, IL awhile back.

I will dig up some pics and post them here.

The game worked, but I don't think it was ever a legit cab. The construction isn't consistent with commercial arcade machines.

Street Fighter was definitely not the original game in the cab.

Here is documentation on my recent efforts to make this ugly duckling more presentable and playable.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:27:01 pm
Here is the CP that was on the cab. I stripped off the terrible overlay that was on it.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387424;image)

I thought about spot welding or epoxying a steel plate over the top, but I didn't trust my ability to smooth and blend everything flat afterward.

So I bought a relatively cheap metal brake that can handle up to 18 gauge steel at 30 inches wide. I plan on doing a bunch more CPs for other cabs.

This was a way to get my feet wet.


Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:31:47 pm
So the first thing I did was measure the old CP.

I don't have many steel working tools yet so I ordered a piece of sheet steel to the same dimensions as the old CP.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387425;image)

Time to start bending steel.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387426;image)

The clamping bar is pretty wide so it limited my bend options at the end. I kind of forced it to work.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387427;image)

One bend was not pretty, but you can't see it on the cab, and it couldn't really be avoided with the equipment I have.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387428;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387429;image)




Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:34:31 pm
I must say that is a pretty nice fit for my first steel CP.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387430;image)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:40:18 pm
Next I went to slagcoin.com to get the Street Fighter joystick and button layout.

After that I printed it out actual size and taped it to the CP.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387431;image)

Next I used a spring loaded punch to mark all of the hole positions.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387432;image)

Next is simply drill the holes. When cutting steel I slow down my drill press and use oil to lubricate the cutting bit.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387433;image)

I couldn't reach a few of the holes with my drill press so I just used a hand drill for those.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:41:41 pm
I drilled carriage bolt holes smaller than the square shoulder and then filed the holes to shape and size.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387434;image)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:45:49 pm
Then I gave it a basic rattle can paint job to protect the steel.

The nozzle leaked globs. That is what I get for letting paint sit around forever.

But it is good enough to be eventually covered with a CPO.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387435;image)

If you are paying attention you can see where I ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- up a couple of the carriage bolt holes. It was a learning process.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 12:53:42 pm
That was all a couple of weeks ago.

This last weekend I flew out to Arroyo's place.

That is a whole other adventure.

While I was out there he did some Photoshop work for me and gave me a tutorial... (a photoshop tutorial).

When I got home I laid my vector layout file on top of his Photoshop work.

Then I moved the elements around to match my cp.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387436;image)

I had to make a phone call for additional help from Arroyo.

Once that was all sorted I printed it out actual size in super low fidelity and no color.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387437;image)

that way I could match it up to the real CP before it goes off to the printer.

It still needs to be spruced up a bit, but it is almost ready to get printed.

I will post a final pic of the CPO in full color before it goes to the printer.

And that brings you up to date.





Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 17, 2021, 01:36:17 pm
Nice job. I miss the access I had to a plasma CNC. I made tons of custom metal pieces.


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Malenko on April 17, 2021, 01:50:21 pm
you should post a good pic of the cab.......












and make me 2 new SF panels for my 2 dynamo cabs
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 02:02:43 pm
I found some pics from the day I brought it home. The first is the basement I pulled it out of. It was supposed to be on the main floor. I got it halfway up the stairs and then renegotiated the price.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210417/0fa4fdaf52ab86867aebe2051c26e836.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210417/5381cbd665bb856223d0010d800dd2a0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210417/ed8397ed28fd0e16ed80a2f6856815b7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210417/43e4a65ed42fdab0563635b03a05ceeb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210417/e1698b00a97af1fa774741d7cc937320.jpg)

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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 02:59:51 pm
I don't have access to a Dynamo cab. I would need a lot of details, but I could take a stab at it.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Malenko on April 17, 2021, 03:25:11 pm
The game worked, but I don't think it was ever a legit cab. The construction isn't consistent with commercial arcade machines.

If I had to venture a guess.......

based on the toe-in at the kick plate, the monitor angle, and the bezel/glass location......

Carnival by Sega/Gremlin , but likely a copy/bootleg based off of that as it lacks the kickplate speaker n stuffs.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 04:08:52 pm
It is also put together with screws. The marquee is captured between the cabinet parts. No retainers. And it is short for an upright. It looks like a home built, but there is a serial number stamped into the wood in back.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Vigo on April 17, 2021, 04:50:12 pm
Yeah, it has a bit of a Walmart shelving feel to it.

Really nice metal work, there. If I had a little more real estate in my shop, I would definitely be going down that path.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: pbj on April 17, 2021, 05:17:55 pm
You’ve done very nice work on this.  But how are you going to pause the game or bring up the menu?  Volume control?
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 05:30:04 pm
There will be a volume knob inside the coin door.

There is no pause button, but after you put coins in, a menu, or at least a dialog comes up to let you select 1 or 2 players.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 17, 2021, 05:31:37 pm
I have a SF2 Champion Edition PCB waiting to be used.
The original Street Fighter is rather painful to play.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bobbyb13 on April 18, 2021, 03:44:49 am
I'm hard pressed to think the word janky is appropriate for a build/restoration thread of yours.

Although I suppose what you began with was kinda/sorta.

You should be proud of that control panel.

My first job out here on the rock was with a raingutter company and I learned quickly how tricky bending flat stock can be.  There is only one place on 'Oahu I know of that could make a panel like that- and it might not even look that good.

Do you have a plan for the speaker panel?

Apart from the crooked looking coin door (and I've had a few glasses of red wine mind you) that was the only piece that really screamed janky to me at first glance.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Vigo on April 18, 2021, 04:48:46 am
I agree, some nice speaker mesh across the top and it will look 1000% better.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 18, 2021, 08:13:19 am
My immediate goal is to get the cab playable.

I have a gutted Taito cab that wants to become a Front Line.

And I have a Konami 4 player with Soul Edge in it that I need to do something with.

Once everything is available to play I can worry about making them pretty.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bperkins01 on April 18, 2021, 09:55:05 am
Nice work MikeA  :applaud:
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Howard_Casto on April 18, 2021, 10:35:27 pm
This is all great and everything but what about dat captain's chair??
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 18, 2021, 10:42:27 pm
Don't get me started.

The board set is kicking ---my bottom---.

I set it aside out of frustration.

I am going to work on this cab and then circle back around to the Captain's Chair.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bobbyb13 on April 19, 2021, 12:19:26 am
Don't get me started.

The board set is kicking ---my bottom---.

I set it aside out of frustration.

I am going to work on this cab and then circle back around to the Captain's Chair.

A successful tactic.

I too look forward to progress on the Star Trek.
That thing is cool.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 20, 2021, 11:53:17 am
I ordered parts for the cab.

I removed the speaker panel and I will cut a new one.

I will post some pics hopefully this weekend after the parts come in.



Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Malenko on April 21, 2021, 06:46:45 am
if you arent keeping the art, you can pack it in with my replacement CPs ;)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 21, 2021, 06:52:10 am
Whoever built this cab cut the bezel and marquee down to fit this cab. You can have it.

I will pack the art and bring it it Zapcon.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 21, 2021, 12:02:15 pm
I drilled carriage bolt holes smaller than the square shoulder and then filed the holes to shape and size.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387434;image)

is there a name for that tool?
i have two pre-drilled metal control panels with holes too far apart for the sanwa style joysticks i have and need to drill it.
was going to use a bit to make a hole just big enough for the carriage bolts to snuggly fit and grip the sides.
but if i can make the holes square that would be ideal.
I know what the tool is and what others call it but i'm not finding it anywhere and think i'll have to make one myself.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 21, 2021, 12:02:36 pm
Whoever built this cab cut the bezel and marquee down to fit this cab. You can have it.

I will pack the art and bring it it Zapcon.
Great, now he has a reason to come to ZapCon!

I just wish he still had his gorgeous long red flowing locks


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 21, 2021, 12:06:53 pm
I drilled carriage bolt holes smaller than the square shoulder and then filed the holes to shape and size.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387434;image)

is there a name for that tool?
i have two pre-drilled metal control panels with holes too far apart for the sanwa style joysticks i have and need to drill it.
was going to use a bit to make a hole just big enough for the carriage bolts to snuggly fit and grip the sides.
but if i can make the holes square that would be ideal.


I know what the tool is and what others call it but i'm not finding it anywhere and think i'll have to make one myself.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S5Y9JPV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is still a bit too big for #10 carriage bolts. I had to grind it down at the end to taper it more.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 12:39:06 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 21, 2021, 12:44:29 pm
My solution cost five bucks and a minute or two on the grinder.

I can use the rest of the 400 some odd dollars I saved on beer.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 12:48:20 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 12:52:38 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bperkins01 on April 21, 2021, 12:59:39 pm
I love tools more than the next guy - I would not spend $400 to make a square hole when I make 4-12 a year..
Square file in a round hole - just enough to get a carriage bolt in for $5?  I'm on board with that..
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 01:12:58 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 01:35:21 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 01:37:12 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 02:09:50 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Malenko on April 21, 2021, 02:30:45 pm
Whoever built this cab cut the bezel and marquee down to fit this cab. You can have it.

I will pack the art and bring it it Zapcon.

Cool, hand it to Haruman and he'll ship it to me :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 02:37:18 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on April 21, 2021, 03:08:41 pm
Nice job on the steel control panel Mike but this thread is kinda like watching your favorite TV show and the same annoying commercial keeps coming on...lol.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 21, 2021, 05:33:26 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: opt2not on April 21, 2021, 07:48:33 pm
Really nice work on that metal panel. That’s the way to do it man, the spirit of BYOAC is right here.  :applaud:

Looking forward to seeing this one finished. People throw shade at SF1 but I have fond memories for the game. The audio is so nostalgic to arcades back then. For some reason every arcade that had this game had the volume turned up to 11! You could hear this game over most of the other  sounds at every location it was in.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 22, 2021, 12:56:10 pm
I drilled carriage bolt holes smaller than the square shoulder and then filed the holes to shape and size.

[img]http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387434;image[/i]

is there a name for that tool?
i have two pre-drilled metal control panels with holes too far apart for the sanwa style joysticks i have and need to drill it.
was going to use a bit to make a hole just big enough for the carriage bolts to snuggly fit and grip the sides.
but if i can make the holes square that would be ideal.


I know what the tool is and what others call it but i'm not finding it anywhere and think i'll have to make one myself.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S5Y9JPV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is still a bit too big for #10 carriage bolts. I had to grind it down at the end to taper it more.

$4 at harbor freight.
sweet.
thanks.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: jennifer on April 22, 2021, 01:54:29 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 25, 2021, 06:53:36 pm
With (a lot of) help from Arroyo, I have finished the CPO file. It is ready to go to the printers.

Next up is the marquee and bezel. Those will be much easier. I think they just need to be resized.

I will be cutting a new speaker panel tomorrow.

My marquee light came in today.

This thing should come together pretty quickly now.

The only holdup will be the artwork. All of the guys who do this stuff seem to be backed up right now.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Malenko on April 25, 2021, 07:02:02 pm
The only holdup will be the artwork. All of the guys who do this stuff seem to be backed up right now.

Whatchu need?
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 25, 2021, 07:09:08 pm
I need a durable cpo. There will not be plexi on top.
I will also need a marquee with the artwork printed on it.
And a printed bezel. It can be printed on cardboard.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Malenko on April 25, 2021, 07:51:07 pm
you have the art and need it printed?
Jeff West is great  jeffreywest at gmail.com

if you need art worked on , LMK
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 25, 2021, 07:54:48 pm
Thanks. I appreciate that.

I just need it printed.

I will email him once I have everything finalized in a day or two.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 27, 2021, 10:45:38 pm
I got sidetracked by a friend who needed a Wacom tablet USB connector fixed.

I cut the new speaker panel, and now I have to cut the top panel 3/4 of an inch shorter to fit the new marquee once it comes in.

I still need to finalize the marquee artwork. Hopefully tonight.

I will post pics maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on April 28, 2021, 09:11:05 am
Your artwork is not done till we approve it.  It needs to be checked for penis'...lol.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 09:17:46 am
It is just penises in a tiled pattern.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on April 28, 2021, 09:35:36 am
C'mon you've got to give us the opportunity to return all the artwork feedback you've given us over the years. :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 09:37:31 am
I will post it up here when I get off work.

It is nothing fancy. Just the stock SF2 CE artwork adjusted to fit this cab.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bperkins01 on April 28, 2021, 09:46:45 am
C'mon you've got to give us the opportunity to return all the artwork feedback you've given us over the years. :)
He's got ya there.... >:D
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: pbj on April 28, 2021, 09:56:19 am
It’s not Mike’s fault that 90% of the art that gets posted here is pure ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 28, 2021, 12:05:11 pm
If it’s not a collage of all the SF Bros and Sises standing in a line looking jacked and ready to fight, you haven’t learned a thing from this place.


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 12:15:17 pm
And then Mario, the Space Invaders guy, and Donkey Kong have to be on there at random.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on April 28, 2021, 12:37:50 pm
don't forget "cade" on the marquee.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Vigo on April 28, 2021, 12:39:58 pm
And then Mario, the Space Invaders guy, and Donkey Kong have to be on there at random.

Not the arcade Donkey Kong, either. The SNES era 3d rendered Donkey Kong with tie on, you know, hanging out with the ultra random character like Bomb Jack.


don't forget "cade" on the marquee.


The builders first name with cade at the end. "Mikecade"
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 12:46:58 pm
You guys just gave me great ideas for my next cab.

It will be a JAMMA cab that only has bootleg PCBs.

The artwork will be an amalgamation of terrible choices.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on April 28, 2021, 12:53:39 pm
You guys just gave me great ideas for my next cab.

It will be a JAMMA cab that only has bootleg PCBs.

The artwork will be an amalgamation of terrible choices.

You could pull it off...everyone around here is too scared of you to call your baby ugly...haha.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 28, 2021, 12:56:40 pm
You guys just gave me great ideas for my next cab.

It will be a JAMMA cab that only has bootleg PCBs.

The artwork will be an amalgamation of terrible choices.

You could pull it off...everyone around here is too scared of you to call your baby ugly...haha.
Eff that shiz, I’ll tell Mike to his face that his ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- is ugly! And he’d appreciate the honesty!


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 12:56:50 pm
They shouldn't be afraid to tell me what they think.

I value negative criticism.

I don't always act on it, but I can usually learn something from it.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bperkins01 on April 28, 2021, 01:09:08 pm
They shouldn't be afraid to tell me what they think.

I value negative criticism.

I don't always act on it, but I can usually learn something from it.
Or constructive criticism :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on April 28, 2021, 01:14:33 pm
I thought it was obvious I was joking...lol
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 01:19:22 pm
It was obvious Gil.

This is what we do.



Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bperkins01 on April 28, 2021, 01:22:23 pm
It was obvious Gil.

This is what we do.
You dish it out - but you can take it..  that's all that matters :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on April 28, 2021, 01:54:54 pm
I'm usually trying to be funny but I fail alot
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 28, 2021, 01:55:46 pm
They shouldn't be afraid to tell me what they think.

I value negative criticism.

I don't always act on it, but I can usually learn something from it.
Bro, you need a new haircut.


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 28, 2021, 01:56:48 pm
I'm usually trying to be funny but I fail alot
Heh - it’s all good! I know sometimes people can’t hear the joking in our voices when they read our words.


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on April 28, 2021, 01:59:23 pm
But I will need to purchase a suit of armor when I finally finish my Mame cab.  You guys are gonna hate the artwork but I like it especially after I've spent over 200 hours drawing most of it.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 28, 2021, 05:21:04 pm
But I will need to purchase a suit of armor when I finally finish my Mame cab.  You guys are gonna hate the artwork but I like it especially after I've spent over 200 hours drawing most of it.
I get what you’re saying, but I have more respect for people who say “Thanks for the feedback, but I like what I drew and I’m gonna stick with it” as opposed to dudes that just flame out and have a meltdown.

We’re just providing us feedback, you don’t have to take it. I mean, we are usually right, but that doesn’t mean it’s right for your machine. :-)


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bobbyb13 on April 28, 2021, 07:40:58 pm
It is just penises in a tiled pattern.

So, a new interpretation of the old egg and dart then
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 10:42:32 pm
So here is the artwork.

Marquee:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387650;image)

CPO:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387651;image)

This is the standard SF2 CE artwork. It is really simple.

Howard commented elsewhere that the SF2 artwork would have been cooler. He is right.

I wanted to use the artwork from the fighting game I know best. So that is what I did.

Fighting games are not my favorite genre because I suck at them, but Arroyo is bringing me around.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 10:57:51 pm
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387652;image)

Sometimes it is easier to use the CNC machine.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 28, 2021, 11:28:26 pm
So here is the artwork.

Marquee:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387650;image)

CPO:
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387651;image)

This is the standard SF2 CE artwork. It is really simple.

Howard commented elsewhere that the SF2 artwork would have been cooler. He is right.

I wanted to use the artwork from the fighting game I know best. So that is what I did.

Fighting games are not my favorite genre because I suck at them, but Arroyo is bringing me around.
I got you bro!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210429/150fbf9ab252cf52a68532408bde9b92.jpg)

Pro tip: Make sure you stretch it and squish it so it fits your marquee space!


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 11:32:38 pm
But those are all drawn in the same style.

I thought you were supposed to grab random characters in

different art styles and cram them together.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Zebidee on April 28, 2021, 11:37:37 pm
Don't forget Q*bert, because naturally you'd want Q*bert on a fighting cab :(=

Nice work Mike
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 28, 2021, 11:43:15 pm
Zebidee has a point Yotsuya.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 28, 2021, 11:48:34 pm
But those are all drawn in the same style.

I thought you were supposed to grab random characters in

different art styles and cram them together.
What are we, farmers?


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 30, 2021, 07:46:39 am
The bezel turned out to be a pain in the ass.

I am almost done with it.

Since I am staying faithful to SF2 CE artwork, the original bezel is pretty square.

My jank ass cab has a rectangular opening for the bezel.

I tried just creatively cropping the original, but that did not work out.

So I found a Hi Res pic of just the background. I sized it to my bezel area.

I put a white square where I need to cut out for the viewable area.

Next I grabbed a Hi Res image of the real bezel and I cropped out the characters and text from that and pasted it onto my new bezel background.

This has been a good learning experience in basic photoshop skills. I think I am doing okay so far.

I didn't have to really create anything, just cut and paste.

Here it is:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387667;image)

I still need to add a bit to the top right corner.

I also might need to remove the Capcom logo due to the way the CP meets the Bezel glass.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Vigo on April 30, 2021, 08:19:59 am
Effort? If you’re going for the actual in-circuit feel, just slice half the portraits off to make it all fit.  :lol
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 30, 2021, 08:22:56 am
That is kind of what the guy before me did.

He put Street Fighter in this cab and cut down the marquee and hacked up the cardboard bezel to fit.

He didn't even mount the PCB. It was sitting on the floor of the cab.

The CP had so many holes in it that some of the buttons were only mounted in the plexi he put over the top of the CPO.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Vigo on April 30, 2021, 08:30:19 am
The man sounds like a master at his craft. His dedication to authenticity should be applauded. He created an authentic, burn down the Chuck E. Cheese quality gaming experience that only a cut-rate operator could provide.

I'm feeling nostalgic just thinking about how ground down those joysticks must have felt.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 30, 2021, 08:37:16 am
I can't remember if I took a pic. I will look back.

The marquee light fixture was a standard porcelain incandescent socket with a 60 watt bulb in it.

Burned out...naturally. The socket was held in place with 2 nails bent over to wedge it in place.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Zebidee on April 30, 2021, 09:17:42 am
Oh, the authenticity... hard to get bent nails these days. Just go down to the hardware store and ask, mostly all you'll get is bank stares. As for the 60 watt incandescent bulb, that belongs in a museum!

Seriously though, have you thought about putting an instructions banner across the bezel, below the monitor? I never know what the special moves are.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 30, 2021, 09:53:14 am
The problem is the way this cab is designed I don't think I have the room down there for anything.

The monitor is at a weird angle and the bottom of it is shifted forward.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 30, 2021, 10:28:03 am
I bet it was a originally a vertical cab, and they shoehorned that horizontal monitor in.


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: pbj on April 30, 2021, 10:55:31 am
Everything had SF2 shoe horned into it back in the day.  SF2 probably saved arcades for another 5 years.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Malenko on April 30, 2021, 11:37:53 am
Everything had SF2 shoe horned into it back in the day.  SF2 probably saved arcades for another 5 years.

I had a track and field converted to SFII back in the day, one of the first cabs I ever bought. Had *A* rainbow edition hack, not *THE* rainbow edition hack.
Specials in air, not turbo speed, hit start to change fighters midmatch , projectiles instant hit, and chunli's air footstop hit anywhere, so you could jump her far beyond the top of the screen.

good times.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 30, 2021, 12:50:26 pm
Most converted SFs I see are in natively horizontal-aspect monitored cabs, like Joust or Robotron. This is the first time I think I’ve seen one in a vertical cab like this. Should be interesting!


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: pbj on April 30, 2021, 01:07:13 pm
You never saw Ms Pac-Man converted to SF2?  C'mon, man, do you even arcade in the 90s, bro?
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bobbyb13 on April 30, 2021, 01:34:43 pm
Now I think about it, I was pretty much out of arcades by the time I was 18 (1988) so I missed nearly all of this conversion heresy.

Doing a nice job with that mongrel Mike, especially given the orientation mismatch.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Vigo on April 30, 2021, 01:47:20 pm
Everything had SF2 shoe horned into it back in the day.  SF2 probably saved arcades for another 5 years.

I had a track and field converted to SFII back in the day, one of the first cabs I ever bought. Had *A* rainbow edition hack, not *THE* rainbow edition hack.
Specials in air, not turbo speed, hit start to change fighters midmatch , projectiles instant hit, and chunli's air footstop hit anywhere, so you could jump her far beyond the top of the screen.

good times.

First cab I ever had was the same, a convert of a Trog to a SFII rainbow-ish board. The concept of hack boards was completely foreign to me. I remember being pretty damn confused when I was trying to play it.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 30, 2021, 02:14:13 pm
You never saw Ms Pac-Man converted to SF2?  C'mon, man, do you even arcade in the 90s, bro?
Eff the 90s.

By that time, I was more interested in trying to get laid.


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bobbyb13 on April 30, 2021, 02:24:32 pm

You never saw Ms Pac-Man converted to SF2?  C'mon, man, do you even arcade in the 90s, bro?
Eff the 90s.

By that time, I was more interested in trying to get laid.


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 :laugh2:

This
In my case it was more of an emphasis on the trying part!

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Howard_Casto on April 30, 2021, 02:31:11 pm
You never saw Ms Pac-Man converted to SF2?  C'mon, man, do you even arcade in the 90s, bro?

I saw a ms pac-man cocktail converted to a sf2...   imagine trying to squeeze 6 buttons an 8-way joystick and a start button on that tiny panel.   
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 30, 2021, 02:42:52 pm
Arroyo bought a Joust cocktail that had be converted to a Mortal

Kombat. He is going to deconvert  it back to Joust.

It is funny. It actually works well as a Mortal Kombat.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on April 30, 2021, 04:07:43 pm
I am doing more work on this cab than I wanted to. It is all screwed together so it is really easy to replace panels.

And it is not a real arcade cab so I am not really worried about how much of the original stuff I replace.

I just cut a new top piece. Next is the back support at the top of the cab.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Arroyo on April 30, 2021, 04:53:08 pm
Arroyo bought a Joust cocktail that had be converted to a Mortal

Kombat. He is going to deconvert  it back to Joust.

It is funny. It actually works well as a Mortal Kombat.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387672;image)

Plays surprisingly well in this format, then again I think any game does well in this design. 
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: yotsuya on April 30, 2021, 05:25:34 pm
Arroyo bought a Joust cocktail that had be converted to a Mortal

Kombat. He is going to deconvert  it back to Joust.

It is funny. It actually works well as a Mortal Kombat.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387672;image)

Plays surprisingly well in this format, then again I think any game does well in this design.
Part of me wants to say “Fix that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---!”, but it kinda works. And at least it was nicely done!


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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Arroyo on April 30, 2021, 05:37:25 pm
Part of me wants to say “Fix that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---!”, but it kinda works. And at least it was nicely done!

Already got the board stack and now looking for the power supply.  This one will be fixed the right way once I get to it.  Already have a dedicated MK2 that will be a multi MK.  Many restorations in my future.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 02, 2021, 09:04:04 pm
The bezel artwork is done.

I am ready to send it all to the printer.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387697;image)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 02, 2021, 09:06:15 pm
Had to make sure it all fits.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210503/1acf06fcbf66b6046a26141bba9a9be0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: pbj on May 03, 2021, 12:02:32 am
That’s a hell of a tilt on that crt
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 03, 2021, 04:45:36 am
Yes. Whoever built this cab didn't make it deep enough. If I tilt the monitor forward the neck will poke out the back. Also notice how close the monitor is to the front of the cab.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Vigo on May 03, 2021, 05:41:04 am
I honestly don't mind a tilted monitor, but can understand how that would be odd for a fighting cabinet.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 03, 2021, 05:52:20 am
It plays nicely.

It is just designed a little weird with the monitor tilted and the bezel glass straight up.

I thought about changing it, but there is a certain charm to its oddness. So it will stay the way it is.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: nitrogen_widget on May 03, 2021, 08:27:54 am
where are you putting the cigarette burns on the control panel?
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 03, 2021, 08:44:51 am
That is the problem with replacing stuff. No history.

It will just have to tell a story of its own some day.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 03, 2021, 09:42:50 pm
I just sent an email to the guy Malenko recommended for artwork printing.

The new speakers came in today.

Monday is my longest work day so I am not doing anything else.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bperkins01 on May 03, 2021, 09:57:35 pm
I just sent an email to the guy Malenko recommended for artwork printing.

The new speakers came in today.

Monday is my longest work day so I am not doing anything else.
amen brother..
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 17, 2021, 06:02:13 am
The artwork is in the hands of the printer.

Waiting for a quote.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on May 28, 2021, 07:52:41 am
While I am waiting for artwork to arrive I have been doing some cabinet wiring.

I am wiring in a hi to low signal converter for the audio. I want to pull the PCB amplified mono signal down to line level so I can split it and feed it into a small stereo amp that will drive the two 8 ohm

speakers. That way I can also plug a stereo PCB into this cab when I want to switch things up.

It might be totally unnecessary. I am not sure. But mono PCB amps are typically designed to drive a single 8 ohm speaker. When you drive 2 8 ohm speakers depending on series vs parallel wiring you

get much lower volume or worse with lower impedance you overdrive the PCB amp. Maybe this is why you see so many torched PCB amps.

Any audiophiles here can feel free to correct me on this.

I don't know a ton about it. I already had a converter from another project and they are cheap.

Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: bobbyb13 on May 29, 2021, 03:22:28 am
I am not in a position to call myself an audiophile by any stretch-
But I do know that when you wire speakers in series that the resistance is accumulative and that many people blow amps that way.

16 ohms is a lot for most little amps to push signal through apparently.

I'm dealing with the same consideration on my jRok Multi-Williams at the moment- and I certainly don't want to fry that board.

I believe if you crank audio output from a JAMMA board down as low as you can get signal out of that you can feed that into an amp and it should not blow the input side.
They are all different of course and require experimentation I guess.

I feel like 2.1 audio for an arcade machine is always fun if you can pull it off.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Zebidee on May 29, 2021, 03:38:48 am
Get one of those small yapping dogs and install a sub-woofer

Ba Dum Tss!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1PNNEKZBY
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Gilrock on June 01, 2021, 09:16:21 am
Adding extra speakers in parallel would be what to look out for.  That divides the resistance in half causing the current in the circuit to double.  Adding a speaker in series doubles the resistance and lowers the current so each speaker would output half the power of the original.  Total power would be the same.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Drnick on June 02, 2021, 04:38:39 pm
The bezel artwork is done.

I am ready to send it all to the printer.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=387697;image)

I love that they got Balrog's name wrong on the bezel :)
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on June 03, 2021, 11:51:54 am
There are a few versions of SF where the announcer says it wrong too.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: mourix on June 05, 2021, 07:29:32 am
Nice progress so far.

I changed the button layout on a Neo Geo cab some time ago and it just did not turn out perfect. Now I understand why you just redid it from scratch.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on June 21, 2021, 09:16:33 pm
The cab is starting to come to life.
I am waiting for my artwork.
During that time I have wired the power, sound, and video. Hopefully tomorrow I will wire the coin door and controls.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210622/2f607d7ba511905da1c5041df773d882.jpg)

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Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on June 21, 2021, 09:17:46 pm
I also need to come up with a shroud for the monitor.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on August 19, 2021, 07:59:36 am
My artwork finally arrived yesterday.

The artwork from Szabo's looks great.

The problem is that it looks too good.

I might have to bump this thing up to a full restoration some day.

I have friends coming to play games this weekend so I will disassemble the CP after that and get the new CPO applied.

I am going to buy some aluminum maybe today so I can make the marquee retainers.

I don't like the plexi bezel so I am going to get quotes on glass.

I will post some pics of the new artwork when I get a chance.

I have been negligent on posting here. Hopefully I can rectify that soon.

I want to write up some JAMMA stuff for people new to the hobby. And some other useful stuff.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Howard_Casto on August 19, 2021, 04:05:53 pm
My artwork finally arrived yesterday.

The artwork from Szabo's looks great.

The problem is that it looks too good.

I might have to bump this thing up to a full restoration some day.

I have friends coming to play games this weekend so I will disassemble the CP after that and get the new CPO applied.

I am going to buy some aluminum maybe today so I can make the marquee retainers.

I don't like the plexi bezel so I am going to get quotes on glass.

I will post some pics of the new artwork when I get a chance.

I have been negligent on posting here. Hopefully I can rectify that soon.

I want to write up some JAMMA stuff for people new to the hobby. And some other useful stuff.

Yes we demand pics.   Been anxiously awaiting this one.
Title: Re: Janky Street Fighter cab restore sort of...
Post by: Mike A on September 10, 2021, 07:45:47 am
Sorry it took so long Howard.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=388923;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164992.0;attach=388924;image)

The artwork looks really good. The marquee is too bright I think. Might have to fix that.

My CPO alignment is slightly off. I probably measured wrong somewhere.

The buttons and sticks are not tightened up in that pic. I wanted to make sure everything was wired correctly first.

I just have to tighten everything down and put the rest of the carriage bolts in.

This thing needs a shroud eventually and some other work, but that is a future me problem.

This is the janky cab. It plays great and that is what matters right now.

I picked up a Jail Break PCB. That is what is playing right now. Before that I was playing 10 Yard Fight.

I have guests coming this weekend so SFII CE is going back in the cab today.