The NEW Build Your Own Arcade Controls
Main => Consoles => Topic started by: Howard_Casto on October 20, 2016, 12:36:41 pm
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Ok so the news dropped a couple hours ago. Stat blob in 3...2...1....
The switch is indeed a home/portable hybrid. It sits in a dock when at home and looks very much like a slimmed down wii u gamepad when in portable mode. Both sides of the tablet controller slide off to work as individual gamepads similar to wiimotes (though a tad smaller and with analog sticks). There is also a pro controller option. In the gameplay footage shown the new Zelda, a brand new 3d Mario and enchanced ports of splatoon and Mario kart 8 are shown. The console indeed uses carts that look similar to those on the 3ds. Specific titles aren't yet announced but Nintendo released a list of companies that are working on switch games.... the list is practically all of them including companies that don't always support Nintendo like EA, Square, and Bethesda (aka id). Konami is also listed as a supporting company which is odd since they only make pachinko machines at this point.
The price hasn't been posted yet, which worries me because the thing looks expensive. They've definitely ditched the "kiddie" aesthetic this time around.... it looks like something Sony would make. Also there is a concern about these enhanced ports. If people that supported the Wii U are going to have to buy essentially the same games for 60 bucks we could see riots in the streets.
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Almost none of the scenarios in this promo video ever happen in real life.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI#)
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To be fair nobody wants to see a commercial of some frustrated guy killing time at the DMV or a shut-in playing on the toilet. Note that I'm very excited about the toilet playing capabilities of the device.
The thought the tone of the commercials were interesting. No kids or old people and no families either. Looks like they at are really going after the 20-30 year old demographic.
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I'll give credit to Nintendo...they always try to innovate. I just hope they didn't over-innovate on this one.
Again, this console is great timing for Nintendo...but it's bad timing for the rest of the world. The PS4 and Xbone are hitting their stride at the moment and they have had the time to get their hardware cost down.
Therefor, Nintendo already has a pricing challenge. Unless the Switch is priced at $349 or less, it simply will not be competitive.
$349 launch price may seem like a tall order for a new hardware release. But maybe not, considering it's basically a glorified tablet.
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They tried that more mature demographic with the Gamecube and it failed in sales. Like the GC, Nintendo tried to target the same demographic as Sony and M$, but now they're really playing up that portable aspect, which IMO is Nintendo's wheelhouse aside from family-oriented servicing. I hope this doesn't turn out the same as the GC though, 'cause I'd love to see a more mature trend from Ninty.
I am slightly leaning towards getting one only because I like the dock-able idea, and I didn't get a WiiU because I didn't like the design of it. I'd like to see the hardware specs of this and what the output is capable of, but normally software almost always drives my decision to buy a new console, so we'll see what launch titles they announce for the Switch. I might just do what I do with most consoles and wait a year before committing.
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Well I'm not sure if the timing matters the way both M$ and Sony say they will have yet another upgrade to their consoles out in a year or so. I think both companies are shooting themselves in the foot with needless console revisions.
I'm still worried about system specs. If this thing isn't at as powerful as the xbox one, I don't think they have much to offer unless this on the go gimmick really catches on.
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Third party support:
(http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2016/10/NX_Partners-1200x794.jpg?width=960)
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As a previous GameStop manager, I'd worry more about the number of linking/connecting/moving parts. People, in general, are stupid. Hell, it took years for folks to figure out the whole "synch the controller" thing. Folks can and will ---fudgesicle--- it up. Not to mention the mechanical connections. I promise, first day there will be media outcry about how it somehow damaged something in the user's house. Like all the idiots chucking wiimotes at there TV's.
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Third party support:
I'll wait and see whats released. The deck is stacked against them because I didn't like the Wii, didn't bother with a WiiU and M$ and Sony couldnt get me to get their latest offerings, even with the new revisions severely reducing the cost of the first runs. I'd say PC master race but I dont even play that anymore.
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i'mma wait and see too.
not sure how I feel about this. This FEELS like a next gen portable console....but can also output to a TV... but SEEMS like an underpowered home console.
So basically a portable Wii.
conflicted. Have to see some confirmed specs and some REAL games first.
ninja edit:
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/
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Ever look at an Nvidia Shield and think you had to have one? Neither did anyone else.
After the WiiU, I ain't buying ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- from Nintendo at launch again.
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For kids, I can see the appeal of being able to drag the same games they play at home along with them.
The only part that made me wince was the mini controllers.
Especially the part where the guy is holding one in each hand with the screen propped up in front of him.
I've played around with small phone controllers like the zeemote.
Controlling a game one handed sucks. Controlling a game two handed with separate controllers sucks.
Using anything smaller than an NES controller sucks.
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Almost none of the scenarios in this promo video ever happen in real life.
Really? You've never gone to the airport and found a hot blonde 20-something carrying around the same video game system as you?
Man you just need to get out more. ;)
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I've met a couple playing Pokemon Go.
:dunno
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For kids, I can see the appeal of being able to drag the same games they play at home along with them.
The only part that made me wince was the mini controllers.
Especially the part where the guy is holding one in each hand with the screen propped up in front of him.
I've played around with small phone controllers like the zeemote.
Controlling a game one handed sucks. Controlling a game two handed with separate controllers sucks.
Using anything smaller than an NES controller sucks.
Yeah I think using half a controller that tiny could be problematic, but as for having them separate, there is a do-hickey that you can slide the controllers onto to make it like a typical gamepad with grips and such.
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I plan on getting one but I haven't even got a 3ds yet. I do enjoy me some first party nintendo titles. They really need to get a bigger library with this one. I like the wiiu games that I do have but the amount of good games is weak. I would really like this to go well for them.
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I kind of feel let down by the WiiU. The main problem was the fact that about halfway through it's life Nintendo decided to just release the majority of their games for the 3ds which left the poor Wii U with 1 or 2 good games a year.
I don't have a 3ds either, mostly because portable gaming just isn't my thing... the screens are too damn small. This might change that.
I'll go on record saying that the "switch" might be the dumbest console name yet. That is unless their marketing takes advantage of it. Picture big, pompus, 90's Nintendo style ad and at the end creepy announcer asks "Will you switch?" As the two haves of the logo click together.
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I am interested by this I must admit (Which is the first time I have said that since the DS!)
But I will want to see it first hand and a decent selection of games to play first.
Heres hoping for more Phoenix Wright....
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I plan on getting one but I haven't even got a 3ds yet.
I got the 3DS just for Zelda : Link Between Worlds . I mean I bought other stuff and honestly enjoyed Smash Brothers but Link was worth it. As for small screens..... the XL screens are a decent size. They are no 62" 4K LCD but they arent tiny especially for a portable.
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Using anything smaller than an NES controller sucks.
Form the video it looks like each half of the controller can be used as an controller for multiplayer games.
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I got the 3DS just for Zelda : Link Between Worlds
yep. Link Between Worlds is worth the cost of admission by itself. One of the most creative games made.
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My problem with that game is I played it sporadically and when I picked it up, I felt like I was wandering for an hour just to find a crack in the wall. Maybe there was something I was missing, but I wasn't exactly sure what I was supposed to be doing to the point that I gave up on it.
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Couldn't you call that "bringing Zelda back to its original roots"?
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I plan on getting one but I haven't even got a 3ds yet.
I got the 3DS just for Zelda : Link Between Worlds . I mean I bought other stuff and honestly enjoyed Smash Brothers but Link was worth it. As for small screens..... the XL screens are a decent size. They are no 62" 4K LCD but they arent tiny especially for a portable.
Well Nintendo makes too many iterations of their portables. When the 3ds first came out I thought "I'll wait for the XL version". Then the XL version comes out and just a couple of months later the "new" 3ds is announced. So I wait for the XL version of that, it comes out and almost immediately there are rumors of the next Nintendo console being a portable. I have a feeling that many of the more popular titles for the 3ds might get a Switch port.
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Something that nobody seems to be talking about, which is a concern for me are the physical carts. Yes flash memory is super cheap now, but it isn't cheaper than discs. Also it's a proprietary Nintendo format and throughout the companies history they have been really bad about having storage formats that are smaller than the standard at the time.
Oh and the rumors now is that the system will be more or less as powerful as a ps4, so that's good at least.
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Ime not at all concerned about the carts.
Infact I kind of prefer carts to disks....
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Problem with carts back in the day was the storage limits. Nowadays a flash drive the size of a penny can hold 5 Blu rays worth of data.
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Yeah but a blu ray disc costs maybe 20 cents to manufacture and the case is also cheap because it's a standard size. A 64gb sd card is roughly 20 dollars if you get a good price. They won't pay that much BUT it won't be virtually free like discs and that means the added cost could raise the price of the games. Nintendo is all about using cheaper, more outdated tech to keep the bottom line down, so they very well could use a small storage size, at least initially.
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I just want Mario Galaxy 3.
And it's been confirmed that the dock is for charging and video output only. They are 100% committed to carts and downloads.
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Actually some reports are saying that that dock might increase the processing power.
I'm wondering about motion controls. The screen is HD quality, so if it has motion controls and those detachable gamepads all they would need is a visor helmet with some lenses and it could do VR. Unlike Sony's offering it'd just be a hunk of plastic so they could offer it for around 20 bucks. Yes it wouldn't be as good, but cost does mean something.
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Also it's a proprietary Nintendo format and throughout the companies history they have been really bad about having storage formats that are smaller than the standard at the time.
At the same time many of their best games are ridiculously small in storage terms.
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At the same time many of their best games are ridiculously small in storage terms.
Yep, Mario Maker clocks in around a gig. Most of the other ones 3-4ish. Wii Sports Club is all of 50MB.
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I'm not concerned about first party titles. I'm referring to 3rd party games.
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Third party titles on a Nintendo console? That's a pretty short list.
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Have you seen their partners list for this thing? It's virtually every company that matters.
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Yep, and WiiU started decent on third party support, too. Petered out around Mass Effect 3 and Madden 13....
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Is it absurd for me to expect the switch have have 4K and HDR support?
The future landscape sure makes it seem like 4K/HDR is going to be very commonplace in the next 2-3 years.
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Man, who knows... the DVD section is still bigger than the BluRay section at stores that still carry physical media.
Never underestimate the appeal of "good enough."
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I value fun a lot more than I do high framerate and resolution.
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Is it absurd for me to expect the switch have have 4K and HDR support?
The future landscape sure makes it seem like 4K/HDR is going to be very commonplace in the next 2-3 years.
Yes it's absurd for you to expect that considering this generation of consoles don't do 4k. The upcoming upgrades of the consoles will, but considering game developers will code their game to the lowest end system for maximum compatibility, it's unlikely that we will see many dedicated 4k games.
Also 4k isn't going to be commonplace anytime soon because the cable/sat companies don't really have the infrastructure in place to offer channels in that resolution. Adoption rates have always been linked to tv. HDTVs weren't widely adopted until all the major networks started offering their channels in HD. 3D tvs never caught on because there weren't any networks that broadcast in 3d, even though there was tons of 3d content in the way of blurays and streaming.
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I, personally, don't even see the purpose of 4k... That's damn near higher resolution than reality.
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I care way more about a good game than good graphics. And I don't think size should matter. Some of the best games of all time are under a mb
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I care way more about a good game than good graphics. And I don't think size should matter. Some of the best games of all time are under a mb
Reminds me of the BBS days and when I wouldn't download anything under about 700Kb, because that meant the graphics were ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. Years later it dawned on me that programmers were probably all using the same VGA library files or somesuch and that was probably half the zip file.
Anyway, quality games go hand in hand with quality production values which also means large downloads.
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I, personally, don't even see the purpose of 4k... That's damn near higher resolution than reality.
^This^
Unless your tv is larger than 60 inches, you aren't going to see a huge difference. I mean unless you sit 5 inches from the screen or something.
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That's nice but TV companies need to make money.
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They already get our money. You bought an old crt tv and it might last you 20 years. These new flat panels might last 5 if you are lucky.
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Sports drove HDTV for the most part. When the NFL started broadcasting in HD half the people I know went right out and bought HDTVs. Then bought new HDTVs two years later and again two years after that. Many of them didn't even grasp that upgrading to that 46" 1080p plasma didn't actually make the 720p broadcast any better. But they did it anyway. And they still upgrade every couple of years. Everybody has to have that 4K 65" mounted directly across from their picture window so we can all see it, right?
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If Nintendoh allows us to play the back catalog without having to buy it all again, I say sure - why not. But if it is a handful of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- games geared for the 4 and 80 year olds. I will pass yet again on this brand of console.
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I heard this console will likely be priced at $299, with a pack-in game. I'm perfectly happy with my Wii U right now, so no reason for me to rush out and get the Switch when it hits in March.
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I figure the big launch title will be breath of the wild, and since that will be released on the wii u as well I don't see any point in rushing out to buy one. Unless it's immediately obvious that it is good of course, in which case Nintendo could use the sales numbers.
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After the WiiU, any new console from Nintendo is going to basically have to suck me off on demand for me to buy one.
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After the WiiU, any new console from Nintendo is going to basically have to suck me off on demand for me to buy one.
I don't get why some have been so down on the Wii U. If you like Nintendo games (ie. Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, etc), it's a great system.
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The games are great, the 4 year life cycle isn't.
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I will get one but it will be like a year or 2 after launch. The games will still be there waiting for me.
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The games are almost identical to their Wii iterations, that's what did it in for me.
Besides that, there's many other issues - the online is terrible, the gamepad won't shut off during Netflix, when it launched you looked at a black screen for over a minute when you turned it on (and it took them MONTHS to fix this). Just overall feels really primitive and unpolished alongside my PS4.
Anyway, play what you like.
:cheers:
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The games are almost identical to their Wii iterations, that's what did it in for me.
Not really. First off they are in HD, so there's that. Mario Kart 8 is leaps and bounds ahead of the wii version (which was quite dull and the online rarely worked), it might be the best Mario Kart ever. 3D World is more akin to Super Mario Bros. 2 then it is Galaxy, ect. Mario Maker wasn't released on the wii, neither was Star Fox ect. You can certainly argue that you liked the Wii's library better, but aside from a few oddball titles like New Super Mario, ect the games couldn't be more different.
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No point discussing games with someone that's defending Star Fox WiiU.
:lol
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Howard must have shares in Nintendoh.
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No point discussing games with someone that's defending Star Fox WiiU.
:lol
No, no no. I didn't defend Star Fox on the Wii U, it's not very good. Please don't put words into my mouth. You said you didn't like the Wii U because the games are the same as on the Wii, I said they weren't and proved that point with various examples. My point is, you better come up with a better excuse for your hate-er-aid.
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K.
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The games are great, the 4 year life cycle isn't.
Fully agree there. And by the looks of it, the hardware on the Switch isn't going to be that big of an upgrade over the Wii U. Just new functionality with the removable screen, etc.
I'd like to know if Wii U downloaded games will be able to be carried over to the Switch. I bought Splatoon as a digital download.
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I'm all in for this one. I've been fortunate to be hitting Nintendo consoles on every other one, and I've got the bigger ones. N64, no GameCube, Wii, no WiiU, and I'm on board for the switch, which looks loads of fun.
So far at least.
Sent from my Atari 2600
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I buy all of them but usually used/inexpensive from someone local that has had it a year or two. We only got the Wii U this year. The gamepad does neat things.
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I'd like to know if Wii U downloaded games will be able to be carried over to the Switch. I bought Splatoon as a digital download.
Probably not. Different chipset
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There's a live switch presentation tonight @ 8pm PST/ 11pm EST
http://youtu.be/uuC4YLLkqME (http://youtu.be/uuC4YLLkqME)
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8pm Pacific? Do they want no one outside of California/BC to watch it? Doesn't Nintendo cater to kids? Isn't this a school night?
Actually, I'm just in a constant state of frustration having moved from Central to Atlantic time. Will i be staying up until freaking midnight to watch this? No. And no kid under 12 of mine would either.
/Grumpiness
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That's 1pm japan time. (which i suspect is why it's such a weird time.)
there again, I don't know where they are broadcasting from.
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Clearly they're aiming for the roof party adults these days. :lol
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That's 1pm japan time. (which i suspect is why it's such a weird time.)
there again, I don't know where they are broadcasting from.
I would think that it's Nintendo of America (Seattle) heading this up. NOA typically is the one handling advertising for north america.
Clearly they're aiming for the roof party adults these days. :lol
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Good call.
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Clearly they're aiming for the roof party adults these days. :lol
Yup. Nintendo already have the kids, it's the hipsters they want to add to their legion.
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Hmm... saw Kotaku's summary of the Nintendo direct. The "HD rumble" thing is interesting.... that might give a person enough feedback to where motion controls feel more responsive. The one joycon basically has a built in Kinect.... which might actually do something useful in Nintendo's hands. The games aren't all that great though. The boxing game looks interesting, but I would have to play it before making any judgment. The new Mario looks amazing, but they always look amazing and it won't be out until the "holiday season", which I'm guessing is Christmas and not Easter, which would be the next holiday. The other gimmicky one looks fun, but I'm guessing it would get real old real fast considering the extremely simplistic gameplay. All those jrpgs, ect. don't interest me at all, but that's just me.
I think 300 bucks is a decent price, but it kind of ticks me off considering I paid 350 for the Wii U and barely got 3 1/2 years of gameplay out of it. March 3rd is a really odd time to release a console. Most people are just recovering from the bills from Christmas.
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I'm down for Mario GTA. Splatoon 2 sounds promising. Of course Zelda will be great.
The rest are a pass for me.
The hardware has promise. Loved the Kinect-like hand gesture recognition, and the Ice Cube demo was extremely cool.
But man, the presentation is so poorly produced. The "sketches" were cringe worthy. The Translators were drab af. Where's the music?? It was so quiet and started putting me to sleep.
But the end trailer of Zelda made up a little bit for making me suffer through that whole presentation.
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To be honest...
I'm a little worried. This console is chock full of gimmicks.
They had a chance to announce Mario Galaxy 3 and blew it.
I love Nintendo and all but that presser was so cring-worthy.
I can't believe I'm saying this but it hardly feels like a Nintendo product. In a bad way. :'(
I hope I'm wrong.
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I'm tempted to pre order just to get it and hate it before Howard gets to play it.... But $300 and no game is pushing it.
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It looks decent, but the prices of the accessories are just insane. It's $50 for each side of the Joy Con controller, $80 for a pair, another $30 for the charging accessory and $90 for another dock. I'll just play the WiiU version of Zelda and wait to see if there's a price drop around Black Friday.
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Doesn't look decent at all. Graphics are easily 10 years out of date and $250 gets you a competing system with a game.
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So am I going to be able to play the new Zelda game on my WiiU or will I have buy the Switch? I couldn't tell from the news that came out yesterday.
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Coming out on WiiU. WiiU has been fully compromised so you should be able to easily steal it, too.
:cheers:
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Excellent. :cheers:
I will buy Zelda for the WiiU but would prefer not to have to buy the Switch--at least just to play Zelda.
Coming out on WiiU. WiiU has been fully compromised so you should be able to easily steal it, too.
:cheers:
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Doesn't look decent at all. Graphics are easily 10 years out of date and $250 gets you a competing system with a game.
So Skyrim came out 10 years ago did it?
No it doesn't unless you are buying it used or something. The cheapest you can get a ps4 or xbox one with a game included is around 280-290. You'll actually end up paying 300-310 though because those systems don't include charging cradles for the gamepads. The switch does, so they are around the same price.
They haven't announced the pack-in game yet, that doesn't mean there isn't one. It's safe to assume that breath of the wild will be included and/or that weird joycon game.
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New Egg is selling PS4s for $220 shipped.... today. There are a plethora of excellent games for $10-20.
As usual, you will foam at the mouth defending anything and everything Nintendo does. Their stock price is taking a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- today if you haven't noticed.
:cheers:
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New Egg is selling PS4s for $220 shipped.... today.
Link? (couldn't find it on my own because New Egg likes to play games where they hide prices online)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/PlayStation-4-500GB-Console-/381745027017 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PlayStation-4-500GB-Console-/381745027017)
Price is still live.
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thanks!
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I'll play Zelda BOTW on my Wii U...and the rest of these games are nothing to write home about. I'll probably take another look at this console in 2018 when it has some time under its belt. *yawn*
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VGDa-dUM--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ms4ukjciesvqdklunhap.jpg)
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Ultra Street Fighter II was the only thing interesting for me, mainly because it looks better than HD Remix. HDR's artwork was really terrible, poorly traced from the original sprites. But this version was redrawn by the UDON comic guys and you can tell they fixed a lot of problems with the weird deformations and face distortions of HDR.
Still doesn't merit a $300 purchase though. I don't know, I was hard-on for the Switch before, but that Presentation made me flaccid. :-[
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I'll play Zelda BOTW on my Wii U...and the rest of these games are nothing to write home about. I'll probably take another look at this console in 2018 when it has some time under its belt. *yawn*
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VGDa-dUM--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ms4ukjciesvqdklunhap.jpg)
Wow. They did not do themselves any favours with the font on Splatoons' "2".
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I can't unsee it. :laugh2:
(https://i.sli.mg/b999xL.jpg)
That's up there with U R MR GAY
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Lol I knew someone would go there. I think it's odd that Splatoon, with minor enhancements from the original is called Splatoon 2, while Mario Kart 8, with minor enhancements is still called Mario Kart 8. They should seriously give away the games to people that bought it on the Wii U they are so similar.
Strangely I agree with Opt2Not.... I think USFII is pretty awesome because, let's face it, Capcom has been trying to recapture the magic (read revenue) of Street Fighter II forever. The only reason SFIV was a big hit was that superficially at least, it was Street Fighter II remade in 3d. Also the PuyoPuyo/Tetris crossover looks pretty cool. If those are the games you are excited about for a launch, something went terribly wrong.
The accessories are super expensive as well. 99 bucks for an extra dock, 80 bucks for a new set of joy cons and 70 bucks for a pro controller, which, in my mind at least, should have been super cheap considering it wouldn't have all the motion control stuff.
Maybe we will get more info that will make it sound appealing before the launch.
Btw, their are already rumors about shortage issues and I'm pretty sure the pre-orders online have already sold out. My theory on why Nintendo stuff is already in short supply:
http://youtu.be/Hgq4w4dqKsU (http://youtu.be/Hgq4w4dqKsU)
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I wouldn't call it strange to agree with me, HC. Definitely rare, but not strange ;)
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! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih323XXu_3w#)
:lol
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You know something that very few people are pointing out that I find rather disturbing.... no d-pad on the default controller! This is the first time in Nintendo's history that they haven't included a d-pad. For most modern consoles this isn't a big deal as very few games would use it, but for a Nintendo console with the virtual console.... it essentially means that you'll be purchasing a 70 dollar pro gamepad even to play a launch title like SFIIU.
The console is selling out like hot cakes though. Amazon sold out of pro controller pre-orders in 15 minutes. That is decidedly a good thing as the industry needs Nintendo to survive. I'm still waiting until next winter though... unless they release something amazing in the meantime.
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You know something that very few people are pointing out that I find rather disturbing.... no d-pad on the default controller! This is the first time in Nintendo's history that they haven't included a d-pad. For most modern consoles this isn't a big deal as very few games would use it, but for a Nintendo console with the virtual console.... it essentially means that you'll be purchasing a 70 dollar pro gamepad even to play a launch title like SFIIU.
You are correct. I completely missed that.
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I just figured they'd release a "classic controller " for this...for like $200.
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Took it three days to sell out on online preorders. This thing is NOT selling like hot cakes. I'm just stock piling my Amazon balance at this point. Either gonna be this or a desperate Mocrosoft trying to dump Xbox One in two months...
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I don't know what world you live in, but that's pretty darn quick. Unlike previous items, they allotted for a massive number of pre-orders this time.
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I live in the world where online pre-orders for new consoles are sold out in one day.
:cheers:
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not sure how something that does not exist yet can "sell out". isn't the idea behind pre-ordering gauging popularity and getting to know how much of something you need to make to fulfill the need?
we got 178,000 pre-orders... better make 300,000 to make sure we are covered! no?
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C'mon, dude, you know how this works. They guarantee so many to retailers, retailers line up the orders.
Anyway, we'll all own one eventually.
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C'mon, dude, you know how this works. They guarantee so many to retailers, retailers line up the orders.
Anyway, we'll all own one eventually.
oh well. i'll pick one up in the pawn shop for 99 bucks once the rooftop party season ends.
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I don't know what to tell you guys. I guess nobody reads the articles besides me. The switch outsold the ps4 in terms of pre-orders in the UK. The reason it took 3 days to empty stock in the US is because they rolled out pre-orders periodically over the course of three days. Every time they allotted more pre-orders and put them up, they sold out again.
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All the best roof parties are in the UK. ::)
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:lol
It's getting weird and desperate, Howard.
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I agree, you should quit while you are ahead. :)
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Was wandering a strip mall, figured I'd go cruising for an NES Classic after my success getting a Pokemon Go Plus this morning.
Nintendo sections are a complete wasteland right now. Didn't see a single first party piece of hardware. No WiiUs, no 3DS, no controllers, no nothing. No advertisements for Switch, either.
Anyway, a good way to relive what it felt like to own a Sega Saturn in the 90s if you're so inclined.
:cheers:
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Was wandering a strip mall, figured I'd go cruising for an NES Classic after my success getting a Pokemon Go Plus this morning.
Nintendo sections are a complete wasteland right now. Didn't see a single first party piece of hardware. No WiiUs, no 3DS, no controllers, no nothing. No advertisements for Switch, either.
Anyway, a good way to relive what it felt like to own a Sega Saturn in the 90s if you're so inclined.
:cheers:
or an Atari Lynx...
or an Atari Jaguar....
or... any Atari
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You were just in a weird store man. Say what you want about Nintendo's home consoles, but their portables dominate. The sales for the 3ds have started to level off, but it's by no means dead and you can find them in any reputable store.
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Yes, yes, no true Scottish video game store, we get it.
::)
Anyway, Nintendo has clearly quit sending hardware to stores, even the exotic ones like Best Buy, Target, and GameStop. Switch better not suck.
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I preordered at Best Buy a few minutes after the (painfully bad) presentation. I was really looking forward to trying it, but since preordering, I have bought a PS4 Pro and PSVR. I think I will still be checking this stuff out by the time the switch comes out. I may become one of the ---uvulas--- reselling this thing if they start selling for crazy money.
BTW, Best Buy was already sold out by the next morning. Not sure what time they actually sold out, but it was less than 12 hours.
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So what's Polygon run after my post about no Nintendo hardware in Houston...? An article talking about how Nintendo has been unable to keep stores stocked for months.
Anyway, Kotaku gave their typical ambiguous review of the Switch.
Who's going to be the sacrificial wallet?
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So what's Polygon run after my post about no Nintendo hardware in Houston...? An article talking about how Nintendo has been unable to keep stores stocked for months.
Anyway, Kotaku gave their typical ambiguous review of the Switch.
Who's going to be the sacrificial wallet?
Howard?
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If Nintendo keeps releasing titles like these, I might actually be excited about this console:
Pocket Rumble - NGPC SNK fighter inspired! Always loved that style of sprite art. SNK made incredible character art for the NGPC, from the character proportions[][] to the animation, to the use of only 3 colours.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2x_eumG-Zo#)
Blaster Master Zero - OMG OMG OMG! One of my favourites on the original NES updated!
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6hPZ_5cSbc#)
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love Blaster Master
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I am definitely looking forward to the Blaster Master game was one my favs on the OG Nintendo wish Nintendo wouldve got the Bionic Commando ReArmed that was one my other favs
Wont be getting the switch for awhile wait for the holiday bundle that hopefully includes the new Mario game not big on Zelda so Im in no rush
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If Nintendo keeps releasing titles like these, I might actually be excited about this console:
Pocket Rumble - NGPC SNK fighter inspired! Always loved that style of sprite art. SNK made incredible character art for the NGPC, from the character proportions[][] to the animation, to the use of only 3 colours.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2x_eumG-Zo#)
Blaster Master Zero - OMG OMG OMG! One of my favourites on the original NES updated!
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6hPZ_5cSbc#)
Well the thing is, those aren't console sellers. Also my money is on the fact that if the Switch doesn't do well in the first few months those games are going to immediately get ported to other systems.
A good blaster master would be awesome though.
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Both of those look like filler games in a "pay what you want" humble bundle.
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Both of those look like filler games in a "pay what you want" humble bundle.
There have been many gems in those humble bundles.
Point is, I'd rather these types of games rather than hardware gimmick games that appeal to party go'ers and playing games with your uncle.
These types of games? Including USF2 speak directly to me, and if there is a department at Nintendo that is focused on releasing this kind of content throughout the Switch's lifespan, then they got my vote.
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I'd rather the console be successful so I don't have a paperweight in 4 years. So I want them to make as many hardware gimmick games as possible since those are what made the wii so successful and gave it such a long lifespan in which dozens of great games were released.
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Yes because playstations and Xbox's were so successful by making decades old technology gimmicky.
Nintendo needs to drop the niche markets and get serious about making good software without the crutch of some obscure hardware scheme. They tried all this crap in the early days, and guess what, the best games, the classic games on the old systems were just the best by good design ideas.
The Wii came at the right time, they can thank Guitar Hero for the peripheral popularity. But the WiiU was a failure because they tried to continue that gimmicky theme too soon. Perhaps it was a testing ground for the Switch, but only time will tell.
They just need to get back to making solid gameplay games without the fluff.
Games for fans, not for fams.
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Would it be terrible if Nintendo dropped console hardware altogether? I haven't been a console gamer since my Super Nintendo days so I don't follow the market. It seems to me that they would make more money if they sold their games on every console. They wouldn't have to spend a crap ton of money on hardware r and d,and manufacturing, and they could concentrate on their strength. Their strength has always been their IP. Did that work out for Sega? I don't follow this stuff so I really don't know. I know they have been hugely successful in the handheld market, but I am guessing smartphones and tablets have been eating away at that market share.
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I think the difference is that Nintendo supposedly doesn't sell their hardware at a loss, so by forcing you to buy their hardware they're making even more on the software.
:dunno
WiiU was the 21st century's Sega CD. Hopefully the Switch is better.
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WiiU was the 21st century's Sega CD. Hopefully the Switch is better.
At least Sega CD had Snatcher.
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Passed on that because the one time I saw it it was $30, and everything else was $1-2. I opted to walk out with an armload of classics like Bram Stoker's Dracula and Cliffhanger and many others I never bothered opening.
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Please tell me this was many years ago. $30 for Snatcher is a great price.
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Mid-90s, bro. :lol
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i'm really concerned for the performance being a killer here... not the games, not the third party support...
it's currently spec'd 900p at 30fps and that's while docked?!?
rumor has it the performance drops by 40% when used as a portable device.
games and peripherals aren't going to kill this console off, it's going to be it's performance.
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i'm really concerned for the performance being a killer here... not the games, not the third party support...
it's currently spec'd 900p at 30fps and that's while docked?!?
rumor has it the performance drops by 40% when used as a portable device.
games and peripherals aren't going to kill this console off, it's going to be it's performance.
Nintendo has never been one to shy away from releasing an "updated model" of a console. (think: GBA AGS-101) so I'd expect more powerful specs coming from a future hardware release.
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Yes because playstations and Xbox's were so successful by making decades old technology gimmicky.
Nintendo needs to drop the niche markets and get serious about making good software without the crutch of some obscure hardware scheme. They tried all this crap in the early days, and guess what, the best games, the classic games on the old systems were just the best by good design ideas.
The Wii came at the right time, they can thank Guitar Hero for the peripheral popularity. But the WiiU was a failure because they tried to continue that gimmicky theme too soon. Perhaps it was a testing ground for the Switch, but only time will tell.
They just need to get back to making solid gameplay games without the fluff.
Games for fans, not for fams.
Compared to the Wii their consoles barely sold at all. Also think of all of those classic first party Xbox/ PlayStation games.... there's Halo, and God of War.... and..... yup that's it. Those games didn't age well either. Nintendo can afford to take risks (which is decidedly a good thing) because of their stellar IP library and the ability to make timeless classics even today. With the other two you are essentially being sold a VCR, which is very dangerous to gamers because vcr manufacturers don't care about movies except for the fact that they need them to sell vcrs. Since modern consoles are not one trick ponies, they focus on whatever sales will add to revenue.... gaming masterpieces have by accident on those systems, not by design. Also I have no clue what you are talking about in regards to "games with fluff" Wii Music sucked, DKC returns had needless waggle tacked on and Star Fox Zero was a bit of a dud, but other than that every first party release has been fantastic... even the ones with motion controls.
Mike A: If Nintendo drops out of the hardware game then portable consoles are assuredly dead and home consoles would die within a generation. They are the single driving force for innovation in the console industry. Don't be fooled. Microsoft and Sony just look at what Nintendo does and throw more specs at the wall. Also they never quite get it right. Sony can only make a gamepad if they copy a classic Nintendo layout and Microsoft thought the Kinect would be as useful as a wiimote for gameplay. Even if you don't care about that, understand that Keeping their IPs on their consoles is what gives them value and a Nintendo with devalued IPs would look like modern day Sega... aka a sad shadow of their former selves.
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Also think of all of those classic first party Xbox/ PlayStation games.... there's Halo, and God of War.... and..... yup that's it.
:lol
No.
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here ya go:
https://youtu.be/qBVyF0I2Ruo
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Compared to the Wii their consoles barely sold at all.
Uh what.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles
Wii: 101.63 million
Xbox360: 84 million
PS3: >83.8 million
A less than 20 mill difference per is not as exaggerated as you make it seem. "Barely"...can you fanboi harder? Also, combined, people were buying the higher-end systems more than the Wii. And at a higher pricepoint. That's revenue Nintendo missed out on.
Also think of all of those classic first party Xbox/ PlayStation games.... there's Halo, and God of War.... and..... yup that's it. Those games didn't age well either.
Gears of War, Mass Effect, Forza, Fable, Uncharted, Last of Us, Rachet and Clank, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, Infamous, Ico and Shadow of Colossus rereleases...
All top tier grand selling franchises that are still ongoing today.
But at least the second and third party games on those systems were vastly better than the equivalent on the Wii. If the game wasn't the run-of-the-Nintendo-mill first party games, it was basically shovelware.
Dude, a majority of the Wii's library is shovelware.
Nintendo can afford to take risks (which is decidedly a good thing) because of their stellar IP library and the ability to make timeless classics even today. With the other two you are essentially being sold a VCR, which is very dangerous to gamers because vcr manufacturers don't care about movies except for the fact that they need them to sell vcrs. Since modern consoles are not one trick ponies, they focus on whatever sales will add to revenue.... gaming masterpieces have by accident on those systems, not by design.
Right. So the aforementioned first party games for PS3 and X360 happened by accident. I also don't get your VCR analogy connection, because if you want to talk about not caring about those titles, Nintendo has shown they don't give a damn about theirs. Look what they did to Metroid. Other M was lacklustre, and Prime 3 was another gimmicky "use the Wii motes!" attempt.
They messed up Zelda Twilight Princess by again more Wiimote madness. Even Mario Kart has been going downhill with each release.
Thankfully they did well with the other Mario franchises. Galaxy 1&2 was great, and New Mario Bros was fun.
Also I have no clue what you are talking about in regards to "games with fluff" Wii Music sucked, DKC returns had needless waggle tacked on and Star Fox Zero was a bit of a dud, but other than that every first party release has been fantastic... even the ones with motion controls.
#wiimotemadness
#gamesforfansnotforfams
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I have had the switch for 3 days now, and I have really enjoyed playing Zelda so far. I am going to finally hook it up to the TV tonight, which I am really looking forward to.
I tried playing it in tabletop mode, but the joycons are just too small for my hands to play that way comfortably. I need to gold on to the rest of the device to make it more comfortable.
I hope other games come out that interest me, but so far, I am thinking I will probably just play Zelda and Mario on this console. those are games I really want to play, so I am OK with that. I just see myself going back to the PS4 and PSVR really quickly after Zelda. These will for sure be the only two games I buy at full price.
I think this is a pretty well designed console...except for the kickstand. That is a joke. I almost sold my 3ds when I bought this, but I think I will hold on to it. This is just not as good as a portable for me. Maybe if they release a bigger battery for it. I have the big mugen battery on the 3ds, and it lasts for a long time now.
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Well the thing about the 3ds is, if the switch doesn't flop (and so far sales are good) it'll be dead by Christmas. Remember back in the day when Nintendo announced this new experimental system called the DS? Remember how they said that it was an experiment and it wouldn't replace the GBA? Yeah we all know how that turned out. I'm going to miss two screen gaming... it was fun on the DS line and the Wii U.
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Well the thing about the 3ds is, if the switch doesn't flop (and so far sales are good) it'll be dead by Christmas. Remember back in the day when Nintendo announced this new experimental system called the DS? Remember how they said that it was an experiment and it wouldn't replace the GBA? Yeah we all know how that turned out. I'm going to miss two screen gaming... it was fun on the DS line and the Wii U.
I still have only played zelda on the 3ds, so I am guessing there is still going to be a lifetime of games for me to try on it even if nothing new ever comes out.
I really hope someone comes out with an extended battery for the switch. The battery life is terrible. I usually play Zelda for about 30-60 minutes at a time, so it needs to be charged fairly quickly.
Hopefully tomorrow night will be my chance to try this plugged into the TV. We are getting the house ready to sell right now, so time is really limited. Timing sucks. lol
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I figure they will have a revision of the console pretty soon and/or some third party will sell better batteries. I know when I get a new console one of the first things I do is order batteries for the gamepad from nyko.
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Amazon has them in stock... sitting in my cart right now.....
EDIT - and it was sold out before I could click order.
:lol
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Well I was at my local gamestop today. They had 10 in stock. The clerk said that since Nintendo announced doubling their production they seem to be keeping up with demand... just barely at least.
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Why didn't you buy one? You live for Nintendo. Buy it.
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Eh... I'm not forking over 360 bucks to play Bomberman. I might cave when Mario Kart 8 gets re-released.
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Based on previous Nintento handhelds it's probably better to wait for next revision before jumping in. Switch Mini a year or two from now with TX2 clocked the same as normal Switch (better battery life, smaller form factor, fanless). No joycons support, integrated dpad. That's what I'm hoping for.
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https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/04/03/nintendo-switch-console-warping-bending/ (https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/04/03/nintendo-switch-console-warping-bending/)
Getting better and better with this thing....
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hopefully v2 be an xl edition.
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I don't pay any attention to that stuff. It's just like the Wii when people were hurling wiimotes into the screen. 9 times out of 10 it's human error that cause scratches/warping, ect and when it isn't they do a recall anyway.
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Do they pay you to carry all that water?
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I've played over 90+ Hours into my Switch, only once connected it to the dock to see it on the big TV. Its been portable for all that time and I'm not seeing a warp/bend at all. How tightly are these people grasping this thing??
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You have small, girlish hands.
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(http://cdn.soundpublishing.com/dailyweekly/the-science-of-sleep-had-some-big-hands-30726-1237324696-15.jpg)
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I've played over 90+ Hours into my Switch, only once connected it to the dock to see it on the big TV. Its been portable for all that time and I'm not seeing a warp/bend at all. How tightly are these people grasping this thing??
I think they are claiming that it is warping from the heat generated while it is in the dock.
I have had the left joycon disconnect issue, but no other issues so far. I may send it in to get repaired, but I don't really think I will take it off anymore after I get a pro controller.
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Kernel has been hacked and Roma have been dumped. Just a matter of time for the homebrew scene.