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Title: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: leapinlew on November 10, 2006, 11:50:54 pm
So... here I am again. I said I was done making cabinets. I really have a good reason for making another one. Honest! I'm moving for my job, and I'm not taking my cabinets with me. It's a 2 year move and I intend on coming back. I'll be living in an apartment and I just won't have the room for the cabinets not to mention moving them up and down stairs.

Anyhow, what I would like out of this new cabinet:

 
I need to complete this fairly quick. I'm planning on selling my current house and getting a new place. There is lots going on now and I can't get bogged down building this cabinet. So... lets do it!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 11, 2006, 12:01:32 am
A few months back I thought I might want to build a galaga bartop. I found some images people drew up that I liked:

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMyy7S_Z-X2iczWg7UO5n0DO_o__VjmqB3DTKi5YfcLSTFBM0Jy_8pMAtLSVzzOo3zz94Vgi7bh-l0EUeUWXoFxA)

I like it. I was trying to figure out how I could get this transferred to a peice of wood. I dropped this
BMP in Visio and expanded it till it was the size I wanted. Visio has the ability to print out an image across multiple sheets of paper. I was told recently that Visio could do this and I was happy with the results:

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM8JDmRgHmlJ3vx3aeuJ0zqunJDJZscvypCt2kyruhj8kPJjX-JTd6f61x4j7gkoe7HhHJTjtyexLUsOXkSUSgVA)

Here is the print out:
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You can see it sitting next to a 10" CRT monitor I wanted to use. The problem was the monitor was pretty deep for it's size. I trimmed up the image, taped it together, and traced it onto some wood:

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While the trace wasn't perfect, I knew I could sand it down once it was done.

Here you can see a cutout of it. You'll notice the wood isn't perfectly smooth. This was to be a template for a trim flush router bit. I wasn't real concerned with the face of the teamplate having some drill holes in it.

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I did this a month or two ago and I decided to shelf it. I didn't like the monitor depth in relation to it's size, and I already have some cabinets to play games on. Now I have a few 10" monitors I don't know what to do with.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 11, 2006, 12:06:53 am
Now that I am officially moving, I need to take an arcade with me. So, I revived the bartop project... this time, I wanted to use a larger screen.

I grabbed my old Galaga template and drew out a new design:
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Hmm.... some nice lines on this. I like the thinness of it. Ok, it's a keeper. I decided to cut it out.

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and here it is in relation to a joystick. My plan is to put the monitor at an angle leaning back to match the angle I have it now, and I'll place the laptop on the bottom of the cabinet. It should just all fit.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM6ajH6XqNIrZ0a7EhGCFtPI9QpOZIzv4apmZNKk8BjLoojynZyt_TUKabHpj39XV7E1nHd-usbX15QYAs6V5ZfM)

Tomorrow I'm going to get some 3/4" and I'm going to try to build it all tomorrow and have it painted before days end. Next week I'll get the artwork printed and parts ordered.

As for parts, I'm debating on ordering the Ultrastik 360's or using the Supers I already have. The real issue is the amount of games I could play on it using the custom maps on the 360's and play 4 way games as well. I'll toss it around in my head tomorrow as I build it.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: theCoder on November 11, 2006, 01:04:48 am
I hope the assignment is a good one for you.  Out of state? or out of country?  I've done two six-month out-of-state assignments and a 8 month out-of-country assignment.  All were very rewarding financially.

It's good to see you making instead of lurking.  How long has it been since you're last build?

You could cut around 9" of the height and probably about 3-5 pounds if you ditch the top marquee.  Just a recommendation.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: IG-88 on November 11, 2006, 11:24:51 am
This is going to look pretty cool! What kinda software are you planning on running in it? What are your laptop specs? I'd buy those 10" monitors off of you but I imagine the shipping would hardly be worth it ??

Good luck on your assignment. Exciting & stressful. Good idea taking a cab along with you.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 11, 2006, 01:07:36 pm
I hope the assignment is a good one for you.  Out of state? or out of country?  I've done two six-month out-of-state assignments and a 8 month out-of-country assignment.  All were very rewarding financially.

Out of state. From St. Louis to Alexandria, Va actually. It's a financial move. Neither my wife or I are real excited about it.

It's good to see you making instead of lurking.  How long has it been since you're last build?
3 months maybe? Can't remember for sure. The showcase was the last cabinet I made. Since building it - I really got into Defender and I want to play it with the proper control layout.

You could cut around 9" of the height and probably about 3-5 pounds if you ditch the top marquee.  Just a recommendation.
I agonized on this decision. I just felt it would look to plain or it would look like an overgrown laptop without the marquee. Your right though, in my specifications I listed price and weight but in reality, I want it to resemble a cabinet. It would indeed bring both the price and weight down if I dropped the marquee, but I'm going to go ahead and keep them.

Thanks theCoder! If you live out in Virginia - you have to let me know. I just have to take a test drive...  ;D
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 11, 2006, 01:09:58 pm
This is going to look pretty cool! What kinda software are you planning on running in it? What are your laptop specs? I'd buy those 10" monitors off of you but I imagine the shipping would hardly be worth it ??

Good luck on your assignment. Exciting & stressful. Good idea taking a cab along with you.

The laptop is a beat up Dell. Pentium 3 with a 20 gig hard drive. It should run all the games I plan on throwing at it.

I'm going to run Mala on it with an older version of DOS. I'd like to have a cabinet that can play Gorf and Gorf requires an older version of Mame to run at full speed.

I would prefer someone take a look at them so they know what they are getting. The monitors have a good screen, but the actual shape of the case isn't that great.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: theCoder on November 11, 2006, 02:33:49 pm
... If you live out in Virginia - you have to let me know. I just have to take a test drive...  ;D
Nope, I'm on the other coast.  Albany Oregon, about 90 miles south of Portland.  If you find yourself in the hood, your welcome to come by for a spin.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 11, 2006, 07:36:25 pm
Today I got the cabinet built. I went to Home Depot to try and decide what material I was going to build this out of. I was considering Birch and staining it, but I saw they had 2x4 sheets of 3/4" MDF. It's not that light compared to plywood, but I'm using so little of it...

I took the template I created last night and set up my wood:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM91JFsq37_TMi7AcWA3Q-CichRaXJustsgv3hWFmoRlEApXyclKrz1FA3fo5int7iz3eF192DomQoQ-A6I0OLbQ)

Once I cut out 2 of these I put some blocks on the bottom to mount the base to. I am only going to be able to access the controls through the base, so I wanted to be sure I could take it off and on as needed. Heres the twins:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM5bVAVFoCoNKJSR3zlnABKnXSK5vDGjK06Uv6bU74eGnFKr2FCGpWEiA5_10nNjjLPnSfDtN42twwH-p4KTP0rg)

Next I mounted the base. Even with a cabinet this small, it's not easy with just 1 person. I managed though...
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You'll notice I left about 3/4" of space underneath. I plan on the cabinet sitting on some rubber feet, but I'm also debating on putting some LED's underneath. They are leftover from my jukebox project.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM4qm1y3EFhmEn411TfQMSqi8C3t_4mmH10AnLE2rkBQ1PVaQpJfU1Ef7aolsdLZhguog4cZKGE9xwNjmhKvPU7A)

Time to bring it inside!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 11, 2006, 07:44:20 pm
It's so damn cold outside. Yesterday it was 70 degrees. Today, I can see my breath.

Once inside, I needed to install the marquee. This also serves to make the cabinet much more ridgid. I have quite a bit of 5/8" plywood from my last project. I made the marquee slot out of 5/8ths.
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And the bottom shelf:
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Marquee shelf done. The monitor is inside for my measurement purposes. I'll eventually have it angled in properly. I need to rig up a monitor shelf for it still:
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Next I need to do the T-mold routing.... Easily the messiest part of this whole operation. I cut a control panel and kickplate. The control panel dimensions are 7" x 16". It'll be a tight Robotron fit, but it'll be playable.

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I created a back panel made of 3 plates. A top plate where a exhaust fan will be, a bottom plate where a power cord will be, and a middle plate that'll have a hinge attached for access.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM3Qx_avmXIDE4qhb6y68rhZnzpyI2R1iZTXmOQNJANW2h4UalKs7fTivVe7vauheOSOG_jjMBa8IdV7-UZRzb5E)

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM_5JLa_I0fWJ1gKIk4J4pupp__sRpmpoH3_uRHQ_krMTBHweAgH8s-dmJydZdsVtsL7YKB44qItUwY5ndxgVNEU)

Major construction is now done. I'm going to clean it up and start painting it.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: theCoder on November 11, 2006, 08:27:49 pm
Great progress for one days work.  How are you going to vent it?  Your situation may be different, but on my last project I drew air in from the fan, blowing directly on the CPU area of the laptop.  Not wanting more visible featured, I vented it out the bottom with a couple of dozen 1/2 inch holes. 

Looking good.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 11, 2006, 09:14:05 pm
On the venting....

I'm going to put a few holes in the bottom of the cabinet and a fan up top drawing air out. With heat rising, it should work just like my server racks at work. With a natural current of air flowing through. Thats the thought anyhow...
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 12, 2006, 01:24:05 am
Did some minor work this evening. Nothing worth taking a picture of...

Created a monitor bracket and figured out how I was going to connect the monitor.

Installed the marquee retainers. I am using wood L brackets. I'm hoping after some painting and sanding it will look ok. If it doesn't, I'll continue looking for some metal ones.

Drilled the speaker and fan holes.

Mounted the back panels and installed the hinges.

I didn't get to the paint today. Towards the end of the day I can feel myself just wanting to get stuff done and not enjoying the build. At that point, I put it all away and pick it up when I can later.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: TOK on November 12, 2006, 01:04:52 pm
I didn't get to the paint today. Towards the end of the day I can feel myself just wanting to get stuff done and not enjoying the build. At that point, I put it all away and pick it up when I can later.

I get the same way. Usually only get about 3 or 4 hours one day a week to work on a cabinet (or anything!), so I often try to get too much done. Hurrying in that 4th  hour is always when I screw up!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: Tahnok on November 12, 2006, 05:07:54 pm
When I first saw the cutout shape of the cabinet, I wasn't sure about it. I've got to say though, now that it's together, it's a pretty cool looking bartop. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the finish.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: releasedtruth on November 12, 2006, 05:59:54 pm
Real lean and clean, almost sexy.... err, should I have said that?

GT
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: marknetwork on November 12, 2006, 09:03:22 pm
It's kinda cute for an arcade machine... lol
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 13, 2006, 01:08:24 pm
I did some ordering today:

Ordered a couple red ball tops from Tornado Terry
www.tornadoterrys (http://www.tornadoterrys)

Ordered an Ipac, Ipac feet, buttons from Divemaster

I also created the art. Let me know what you think. It's all subject to change:

This is for the "kickplate" area. I seriously doubt anyone will be kicking it... if they do kick it - I'll kick them in the face. I plan on mounting some buttons in this area as well. A coin up, quit and pause button.
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This is the control panel. I edited a multi-williams panel. Mainly what I did was remove all the pre-drill locations which should make it easier for me to drop in buttons wherever I want.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM_GqobD-5zlbF1BOfkh6yYyJIhSxkgXer2jSS0HK_K2KhWIKUDgmLFNQcQNZ3R9SPBs8r5p91Gh2CfJkuHw6z7w)

And this is the marquee. I took a play off of Multi-Williams and used my name instead. I'm concerned this marquee doesn't play well with the overall theme.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM5JCoYSyOhdAapw8R1iYWi3JrEdUR96dx2zFrOOWyz5DaXXzM4nFdCVUcvrTk41UoPllnDnkg_-FxFe60xaBWgE)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: leapinlew on November 13, 2006, 01:10:27 pm
Oh, I also ordered some Red T-molding. The cabinet will be your run of the mill black... 
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Artwork!
Post by: Havok on November 13, 2006, 01:19:41 pm
You have four different fonts on the control panel, I would stick with one of them to do the marquee. I think the Robotron 2084 might look best. Otherwise, looks great so far!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Artwork!
Post by: leapinlew on November 13, 2006, 01:22:45 pm
You have four different fonts on the control panel, I would stick with one of them to do the marquee. I think the Robotron 2084 might look best. Otherwise, looks great so far!

Shoot... I actually removed about 3 fonts. It's a file from Localarcade that I edited. I removed quite a bit off it actually. It's way less busy than it was - but I'm thinking it still might be kind of busy.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet
Post by: AlanS17 on November 13, 2006, 02:23:27 pm
And this is the marquee. I took a play off of Multi-Williams and used my name instead. I'm concerned this marquee doesn't play well with the overall theme.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM5JCoYSyOhdAapw8R1iYWi3JrEdUR96dx2zFrOOWyz5DaXXzM4nFdCVUcvrTk41UoPllnDnkg_-FxFe60xaBWgE)

Thoughts?

I think it's the lettering that isn't working. The colors and designs all seem fine, though.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Artwork!
Post by: leapinlew on November 13, 2006, 05:07:01 pm
The Art is off to the printers (Kinkos).

Backlit Vinyl for the Marquee
Laminated High Gloss for the kick plate
High Gloss print for the CP
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Artwork!
Post by: TOK on November 13, 2006, 08:26:00 pm
Too late now, but I was going to suggest an element from the kickpanel art on the marquee to tie it all together. Just a couple of planets and starts in the background.

I love the multi-Williams concept. This is going to be a killer machine!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Artwork!
Post by: javeryh on November 14, 2006, 11:48:21 am
This thing is looking really really nice.  I didn't like the profile at first but now that it is assembled I LOVE it.  It is going to be very sleek when it is finished...
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Artwork!
Post by: leapinlew on November 14, 2006, 11:51:19 am
Too late now, but I was going to suggest an element from the kickpanel art on the marquee to tie it all together. Just a couple of planets and starts in the background.

I love the multi-Williams concept. This is going to be a killer machine!

You bastard... thats an awesome idea. How dare you not give it to me sooner!

I'll keep it in mind if I do a redesign and definetly implement it. Thanks!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Artwork!
Post by: leapinlew on November 14, 2006, 12:01:33 pm
This thing is looking really really nice.  I didn't like the profile at first but now that it is assembled I LOVE it.  It is going to be very sleek when it is finished...

Thanks... in reviewing my design I think I may have made 1 error that could be a happy accident.

You have to be looking at the screen head on or the marquee blocks a portion of the screen. This could be a condition of the marquee not slanting upwards, or perhaps I could've used a 15" LCD, but the only way to see the whole screen is to be eye level with the bartop. You sort of want to be looking directly at a LCD to get the best picture, so it's not all bad - but it's worth considering if you decide to make a bartop.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 14, 2006, 07:46:40 pm
I did some of the electrical work tonight. I ordered a few of these a while back:

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And connected it to a powerstrip:

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It'll connect to the lower third on the back portion of the cabinet.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 14, 2006, 07:53:31 pm
Man... I'm not sure why those pictures are so big and fuzzy. Lets see how these next pictures do.

I disassembled the cabinet to paint it. painting without having to make any turns should help me get a smoother finish and avoid using a brush.

Here she is... naked for all to see:

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(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM9vdjkqVUAPPQZll5ATCXY4n4w4Pk7_eiVH3gLcJQ8I162Ms1RnQCWc8D5oAPJiw6D22WHvK9UAMbb67KPvRhjw)

I may get some primer on it yet tonight, or I may wait a bit and make sure I'm really up to it.

My to do list:

I've ordered a few things and I'm waiting for them to come in

Whew! Maybe I'll shoot to have it done by Thanksgiving? I'm not sure, with the move coming up - my time is getting less and less mine.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 14, 2006, 08:50:25 pm
Fine... I'll prime it.

with it all apart... it took about 10 minutes, and it looks pretty good. And I found out I was saving the pics in the wrong resolution.

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Tomorrow morning, before I head off to work, I'm going to apply a skim coat of some drywall material over the wood to smooth it out. I'll sand everything down with 400 tomorrow before I stick a 2nd (and last) coat of primer.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 14, 2006, 08:56:26 pm
.......... side story..........

I was working in the garage last friday and I notice something out of the corner of my eye on the floor next to me in the garage. I look up and it's a mouse darting across the wall. I did one of those startled jumps - NOT ONE OF THOSE SCARED JUMPS!  ;D I haven't had a mouse in the house since I've owned houses. We have a pet so I didn't want to use poison, and I wanted the satisfaction of knowing it's dead. I hate when an attempt to kill a spider goes bad and the spider gets away... you just know it's plotting to come back in the middle of the night and get you.

P.E.T.A. members turn away.


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Lewis 1 Mouse 0.
The trap really kicked it's ass. Hopefully it was a scout and loner. I'm selling my house soon and a rodent infestation would probably not be good for the bottom line.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: Donkey_Kong on November 14, 2006, 09:20:03 pm
Quote
The trap really kicked it's ass.

Got him right on the sweet spot!

Nice mini, mini cab. I didn't read through everything up top but how is that side art gonna fit on that thing man? You should put a carry handle on top of that thing for max portability...Maybe even a shoulder strap!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 15, 2006, 12:22:05 am
how is that side art gonna fit on that thing man? You should put a carry handle on top of that thing for max portability...Maybe even a shoulder strap!

No side art - I intend on putting handles on the side.  :)


Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 15, 2006, 12:25:24 am
I printed out a joystick and button templates...

I only have a 16" panel and I need to fit 2 sticks and a defender layout. After looking at how Spacies set his up - this looked about as good as I could get.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMzYjgggnf4l_V1AuD5r38C5_tPT1rkQLMQIIZL7stThMthHukR05gAEYOoM4xJosmGpCxzgP19tU3_N0ok_BvZo)

My primary concerns...

I'd like to move Hyperspace more towards the middle of the CP, but I don't want to cover up the 2084 artwork. When I test it out - it seems pretty comfortable. Anyone have any thoughts or see any problems?

The coin up, exit, and player 1 and player 2 buttons will be on the kickplate area.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: theCoder on November 15, 2006, 02:12:32 am
I would recommend moving the 2084 to the lower left, making room for the hyperspace button.  But you already shipped off your artwork for print?  What about the space below the two buttons in the top right?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 15, 2006, 09:58:55 am
Heres a beat up version of a stargate control panel - this is what I'm trying to emulate.

(http://www.arcadeshop.com/pics/sg-bad.jpg)

I see I can move the smart bomb button closer to the thrust. That'll give me a nice angle.

TheCoder: The artwork was from localarcade. Moving the 2084 is outside of my photoshop skills. :(
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: spacies on November 15, 2006, 06:51:31 pm
This is my Multi-Williams Bartop CP

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1096868/100_0008_1.JPG)

It may help you?

The P1 and P2 buttons are on the front face.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 16, 2006, 11:43:05 pm
Thanks spacies... I appreciate it. I see the hyperspace on yours is even closer to the joystick than I thought. I did something a bit different, but I hope just as good.

Yesterday and today I was going through the tedious process of sanding, priming, sanding, priming, sanding, painting, sanding, and painting. I think 2 coats of paint will do it. Here it is all laid out:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM9sIamWzha7CR-0ikgZDWm8CXoS2B62jc-fSTySXZtnUsZaCFR1YJfRO2ALLz6h6hME6eEAG99QhBbraYaNYtQs)

I took a close up of the sides of the cabinet. It has a real healthy reflective shine. It turned out pretty nice:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM-jUM_LPlzz0WG9EggU-DBHSQQ2ZWZWGkbP_XqsjAafIInpLNORswZkW--1j12NNoRr8pjGqclzblL9HyYgKKuE)

I also cut the CP... I went to Kinkos and picked up the print. It turned out real nice. A print didn't turn out very well so they ran another one, but they gave me the defect. I used it to measure my controls - this is what it looked like before I drilled it all out:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM1CdT9A5Wo5gMr1miZNDdGM6BXCrTJO8tqq7JruxOhXFNBlQBnJc0HVN3ZxgtAx590vquD1aL-yF7v5K1-xyQtk)

I drilled it all out and cut the plexi. Cutting plexi has been documented plenty. I did it pretty thoroughly on my last build. You can barely see it here, but I took a chamfer bit to the plexi and put a 45 degree angle at the front of the CP. I popped some buttons in it to make sure it all lined up still.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM0wk77HY1l8owl7RQpxcr_CoRbYqWaIH0185JJf276BCbaVi0596esgfzBfIBEC8igjSqMpVP3pDljpXv0zmk5k)

Tomorrow I am hacking the laptop, and if I have time, I'm going to set it up. This weekend I may get to assemble everything.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: javeryh on November 17, 2006, 09:45:31 am
Awesome!  You are making great progress.  This thing looks like it might be playable this weekend!

Nice paint job too - did you get that finish using a roller?  Is it smooth to the touch?  Are you goign to put a top layer of something over it for protection like poly or something?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: spacies on November 17, 2006, 01:15:44 pm

Hey Leap,

You should rotate your joysticks 90 degrees. It will give a little bit more room to spread the buttons out and means you can bring the reverse button a little closer to the joystick.

Look vey nice!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 19, 2006, 01:50:20 am

Hey Leap,

You should rotate your joysticks 90 degrees. It will give a little bit more room to spread the buttons out and means you can bring the reverse button a little closer to the joystick.

Look vey nice!

Thanks for the tips spacies - I appreciate it. I played around with the joystick both ways and settled on the format - hopefully it works. The good news is with these CP's being so small - it's not that big of a deal to have to rework it.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Paint Prep... (Even less fun than it sounds)
Post by: leapinlew on November 19, 2006, 02:02:50 am
I finally finished painting. It's proving to be my least favorite aspect of working on cabinets. I'm happy with this paint job overall, it just takes so long. It would take me approximately 30 minutes to paint the cabinet (including clean up) and I'd have to wait a full day to do anything else on it.

Now on to the electrical work! I purchased a 13" flourescent at Wal-mart for $8, I hacked some existing speakers I had, and I installed an exhaust fan. Here are some pictures of the tight fit in the marquee area:

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM2vrypDbJgAkdD1OIwU6D9_cc4l6p_CQA5b_qc4DfeX6TOM3B-O8URECh5M9cayzVl--8q9FW3pvE-DnMx1C0l4)
I secured the bulbs with some velcro and a couple screws. I secured the speakers with some screws. There is some black cloth that will hopefully filter some of the light coming through the speaker holes.

Here is a shot of the back and the exhaust fan:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM7OJ20bg_ptn9TOR1BMNcv2O1p9EdsCZIqguhbGxr3naLPFhDlz7p90eyeBisvXY-YGCoho3lo8ra97FEUtUTos)
I actually had to install this fan twice. I installed it incorrectly the first time and it was pulling air in instead of pulling it out. I thought I could switch the ground/positive and have it work in reverse but it didn't work. I had to disassemble the top portion of the cab to fix it. It's working now. The fan has 4 LED's in it and glows red, but you can hardly see it since the light from the flourescent lights up the marquee compartment.

Here is a shot of the cabinet partially installed with everything. You'll see the laptop on the base. I've removed as much from it as I can. I've pulled the battery, most of the case, and the screen. Knocked out about 3lbs.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMyQcAsDB9OPMf5ZjtZoJTJLxcaO_wbnOsAoTVnbyBODRljvin5B4Z8Vqs_nZiddz8hGn_NubxGf7mnKdLGQsELs)

I had some of these disco LED's leftover from my jukebox project. For the hell of it, I attached them to the bottom of this cabinet.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM7RwjSWVj5i7KPJzmfuJO-Q2osB6e6wZpHtWurXh5g7dnl5uGJqluj-SiwYkXgCup-d1LsKXtKBYAVs4TARWtzM)
They create a glowing effect under the cabinet. It may be something that gets on my nerves later and I disable, but it has a pretty cool wow factor...

And here is a shot of the back. I attached it with some hinges and I'm trying to decide how I intend to lock it shut.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM3Zikwiki13NUEdIUbrcCte4eovraQNrT78TzuV0s8E8S-ZHwpiZIWCAkSKdhgg7dX0jOUS5K69xTDQFJTeM2oI)

I probably won't get to work on it tomorrow. None of my controls came in this weekend.  :(  I'll try to have it done by thanksgiving so I can focus on the move.


Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: theCoder on November 19, 2006, 09:14:32 pm
Great progress.  This project is cruz'n along.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: javeryh on November 20, 2006, 11:05:06 am
Awesome progress!!  You are flying through this one.  I wish I had the ability to take apart a laptop like that (and have it still work  ;D).  I do have a small suggestion though - I would take those hinges off of the back and spraypaint them black to match.  It will take about 30 seconds to paint on each side (plus drying time) and I think it would be worth it.

Keep up the great work!!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: Donkey_Kong on November 21, 2006, 06:33:37 pm
Looking sweet lew!   :cheers:

I'm gonna make one of these someday and urs will probably be my model. I might have to up-size just a hair though to compensate for my fat fingered clumsiness.

Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: leapinlew on November 22, 2006, 01:03:54 am
Thanks for the kind words Donkey_Kong!

Javeryh: The hinges.... now you have me staring at them. I'm thinking I'm going to keep them metal though - I'm going to add some metal accents and hopefully it turns out. The handles on the side are keeping their metal look. Thanks for the suggestions though!

Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: leapinlew on November 22, 2006, 01:10:54 am
Not too much to report - waiting on DiveMaster to send me the Ipac. I installed the kickplate (which looks really cool) and the marquee.

The whole idea of painting it apart and putting it all together isn't without it's drawbacks. Just adding the thickness of the paint makes it a pain in the ass to put back together at some points. So, I'll probably add the rest of the t-molding once I do touch up paint. It's really hard not to put the t-molding on though! It cleans up the machine so much - you just want to put it on as soon as you can!

Some of the tedious crap I've done and didn't document:
Mount sound controls
Install Marquee
setup computer
soldered new power button on the laptop

Here are a few shots of where I am. I think I'll have to put it down till after the holidays. I need to give it a good cleaning and a final installation.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMymN9NbBhH9sUqIRZpkzS5iLctxTsx6Wj8fWnyWnO2om3W5gPwBB2R3dNX_osiOSxUophIFsC523P9DhiAyTHeg)
Overview shot of it with the overlay just laying on it.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMxuuID0b1ZI7_Q4NFd3OySqYzJzEOlEiJoZwcHi0vima6YoFO8tkRgxCh_iYQWWPuTUyhQ2fZOvDVCJmai2Rz1M)
Not a real clear shot - but check out the kickplate! It turned out real nice. You can just barely see the red glow underneath from the LED's.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM6t5dFjM3HpJ2eAwPtf6x8sTlV8nn9m3VxWnM1caw3aVuIlaKYw1uLm5nyQEfxjZq00coD9xy9a950Z24PVwGWM)
The T-molding is on the top back (I couldn't stand not having any t-molding on. As for the handles.... while I can carry it around fine with the handles - I'm not sure that they are doing it for me asthetically. They are staying on the machine at this point, but I'm wondering how it'll all look said and done.

Have a good Thanksgiving, and thanks for reading!

Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: theCoder on November 22, 2006, 03:01:13 am
Why not just put one of the handles on the back, top, center.

Do me a favor and weigh it when you are done.  Hopefully it will be light enough to carry with just one handle.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: quarterback on November 22, 2006, 04:07:17 am
That's looking sweet LLew!     :applaud:
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: leapinlew on November 22, 2006, 09:41:09 am
Why not just put one of the handles on the back, top, center.

Do me a favor and weigh it when you are done.  Hopefully it will be light enough to carry with just one handle.

No problem. I plan on weighing it. It'll definetly be heavier than the party box....

I'm hoping to be able to comfortable move it to the car and in and out of the house by myself. This cabinet is going to Virginia with me. I also want it to be heavy enough to stay put while playing a game of Robotron. That game has a way of pissing me off - this machine will also need to be able to take a punch.

The handles.... yeah, I'm not sure what to think about them. On the back would've been more asthetically pleasing. The handles looked good on the jukebox, so I thought they might look good on the arcade. At this point, I'm not going to remove them because I'd have to fill holes.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: mlyday on November 22, 2006, 10:55:10 am
Hey  LeapinLew,

Im starting a bartop soon and am having a hard time figuring out how big I should make it.  I like the size of yours,  what are the dimensions?

Mark
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Electrical work
Post by: leapinlew on November 22, 2006, 11:06:57 am
Hey  LeapinLew,

Im starting a bartop soon and am having a hard time figuring out how big I should make it.  I like the size of yours,  what are the dimensions?

Mark

Hi Mark,

First off - get your equipment together. Your monitor, computer and controls. Decide what games you want to play. If you want to play 2 players simultaneously - you'll need at least a 24" wide cabinet (and thats still a little tight for 2 adults. I can give you the measurements to my machine when I get home, but it's made specifically for my computer and monitor. I'm using a 17" LCD. The control panel is 16" x 7" with 16" x 6" usable. So, I know the unit is only 17.5" wide (including the 3/4" MDF). The depth is probably around 22", but I'll double check.

Let me know if you want more specific measurements.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: mlyday on November 22, 2006, 01:31:58 pm
LeapinLew,

I was kinda looking for the hieght and Depth.  It is going to be just a one player CP and will be using and 14.1" laptop as the guts.

I have tried a few cardboard cut outs to try and get the dimmensions right, but something just seems "Off".  I cant seem to put my finger on it.

I had allready decided on on control panel width of 16, and that seems "right".   It looks like from the picture with the template sitting on the 2x4 sheet of MDF that its about 24" high.

I know a couple of other people have expressed interest in your design so maybe all the mesurment might be nice.

Its looking pretty good.

Mark
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: spacies on November 22, 2006, 02:34:45 pm
Hey Lew,

Looking great.

I would ditch the handles. Wouldn't you be able to carry from the rear and put your hands here:

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1096868/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM6t5dFjM3HpJ2eAwPtf6x8sTlV8nn9m3VxWnM1caw3aVuIlaKYw1uLm5nyQEfxjZq00coD9xy9a950Z24PVwGWM.jpg)

Just a thought?

Totally dig the shape!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: leapinlew on November 22, 2006, 02:35:50 pm
Yeah, I'm starting to regret the handles too...

If I end up having to retouch up the paint - I'll probably pull the handles. Let me see how it all comes together. Thanks for the suggestion...
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: theCoder on November 22, 2006, 04:39:15 pm
From the picture on the previous post, it looks like you marquee is going to restrict your view of the top of the LCD.  Tell me this is just an illusion.

Regarding weight, my guess would be somewhere between 30 - 33 pounds.

If you are considering taking the handles off, I would recommend doing it this weekend.  You still have all the supplies handy.  Doing it 6 months from now will be a major pain.

Looks nice.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: leapinlew on November 22, 2006, 05:20:25 pm
From the picture on the previous post, it looks like you marquee is going to restrict your view of the top of the LCD.  Tell me this is just an illusion.

Regarding weight, my guess would be somewhere between 30 - 33 pounds.

If you are considering taking the handles off, I would recommend doing it this weekend.  You still have all the supplies handy.  Doing it 6 months from now will be a major pain.

Looks nice.

Not an illusion... I said something about it almost a week ago:

"in reviewing my design I think I may have made 1 error that could be a happy accident.

You have to be looking at the screen head on or the marquee blocks a portion of the screen. This could be a condition of the marquee not slanting upwards, or perhaps I could've used a 15" LCD, but the only way to see the whole screen is to be eye level with the bartop. You sort of want to be looking directly at a LCD to get the best picture, so it's not all bad - but it's worth considering if you decide to make a bartop. "

it's a design flaw and I wanted others to be aware of it if they wish to copy this design. I don't know what impact this will have on my use of it, but I wanted everyone to be aware of it.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: theCoder on November 22, 2006, 06:48:08 pm
Not an illusion... I said something about it almost a week ago:
I knew it sounded familiar when I wrote it.  Sorry. 

All you have to do is (I hate hearing recommendations that start off this way) hack off about 3-4 inches of the marquee and move it back; maybe move the fan & repair the hole, and re-cut the t-slot; then a little paint touch up.  How much time could that take?  Sure, you could do it when you move the handles, yea, thats it.  I love this arm chair quarterback stuff.  Easier said than done I know...   ;D
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: leapinlew on November 23, 2006, 12:05:05 am
Not an illusion... I said something about it almost a week ago:
I knew it sounded familiar when I wrote it.  Sorry. 

All you have to do is (I hate hearing recommendations that start off this way) hack off about 3-4 inches of the marquee and move it back; maybe move the fan & repair the hole, and re-cut the t-slot; then a little paint touch up.  How much time could that take?  Sure, you could do it when you move the handles, yea, thats it.  I love this arm chair quarterback stuff.  Easier said than done I know...   ;D

Your making good sense. Maybe the pictures are worse than how it really will be, or maybe not. I have a potential solution that involves using a 15" LCD if needed to help with the angle. Unfortunately, I don't know if I have the time for this, if I could redo it - I surely would move the marquee back a bit. It has a bit of extra overhang. Honestly, all I could give it is another 2 inches before the fan butts up to the speakers. Best bet would be to create new sides with a higher marquee sloping upwards.

Let me see how this works out.... hopefully it'll work for me for the next couple years.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: leapinlew on November 23, 2006, 12:06:29 am
it looks like you marquee is going to restrict your view of the top of the LCD. 

To clarify - it restricts your view if your standing above it. If your looking directly at it - you see everything fine.

Not the ideal situation really.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: theCoder on November 23, 2006, 01:07:52 am
Let me see how this works out.... hopefully it'll work for me for the next couple years.
And if not, you have, what, 3 weeks into this?  Very nice & fast build.  Think about how much faster and better the next one will be.  I am already thinking of ways to make my current project even better if I were to ever make another driving cab.  Oh, the important lessons of life.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Marquee/Kickplate Installed
Post by: leapinlew on November 24, 2006, 12:06:05 am
Moving on!

I installed some excess plexi over the kickplate. I like the kickplate area so much - I wanted to protect it and it really matches the CP. I cut the artwork for the CP and put plexi over it. I have temporary buttons in it for now - the final buttons will be all red. There is one last peice of t-molding to install across the bottom of the CP.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM3si1oGWZy3PnmRlBkKcj0ZGGCRefkOsDKoE_-0WdHstWCWaRrVZWi0ONlfZk66LO75fycikUTcMM0Vu1eY5f8g)
There will be red balltop joysticks where the holes are now.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMwl90NZfVfopX9Q1ZBEdJg4TQaQlRCHp7RmP0neJFdHnN0BX6axA7wSYMCdjASmnkbr4ARlF8MIMMYh4kpqb4GU)

TheCoder: If you look at this pic - this will be the angle you will have to play this box at. Not ideal, as I would like to be standing above it looking downward, but not something I want to fix now.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM3NDeBBHlWn4963NVajdaiKjDk_KhLuHc1kI38NeCxndUtHbFkNWwXFe4b9kactTLVWb4ZEkiGuCg3Ab8iVBdBI)

Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - New Computer/Monitor view issue relieved
Post by: leapinlew on November 25, 2006, 04:17:38 am
I did a few things today.

First thing was I decided to switch computers. I have a spare 1.4ghz p4 that I decided to use instead of the laptop. The laptop worked fine for the classics, but since I have such a nice Neo Geo layout - I wanted to play those games. Also, the desktop had a much larger hard drive in it to hold dragons lair and some other emulators (if I can get them to work).

So, I configured the new computer and added Neo Geo games to the game list. I setup XP to hide as much as possible.

I removed the computer and tried several mounting methods. What seems to work best is to mount the power supply and hard drive on the base and the motherboard on the back panel. Here is what it looks like:

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM7VBoq66SoxImZzpOluiga2MBVaKc-0iCi9B9l2zhPsC_-8H7AtO5qDdcxFsZpdEgFWpBY7vVtCgkuQH_rhs8VI)
You can see from this shot that the Power Supply doesn't reach to the power connector on the motherboard. This is as low as I can mount the motherboard, so I'm going to recut a new back panel tomorrow and hinge it on the side instead of the top.

The viewing angle of the monitor has been slightly bothering me and I found what I think is a good fix for it. I lowered the monitor mount about 2.5" and it allows a much better viewing of the monitor. Here is a shot from my eye level looking down at the arcade as I would use it:

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMzbxQsGYcyKTZw6u927E3Jo1ycRlwyRi7mZGdAYG11g08DIOrws44B5LR3CMXQi6_BfRpkYzukIs_vaRkLjCWnY)
As you can see.... much better. I think this is very playable. I thought the monitor sitting lower in the cab would be more of an issue, but it works out very well.

After tomorrow - I should be able to order my dark plexi and by next weekend my ipac should be in and I can get all the controls in and mark this project complete...
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: leapinlew on November 25, 2006, 02:43:10 pm
Holy crap - fitting everything in this cabinet is proving to be a nightmare. I'm getting concerned about heat at this point... I'm going to pop another fan in the floor to vent air into the cab. That combined with the fan venting air out of the cab and hopefully I'll be ok.

I started to put it all together. Holy cow - lots of excess wire making things tight in here:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMyvXR4vfJFHjuPiZSeA15eSGnhQFVX_DfS07Jln2aSXWLQOEZz8LtmBLqFkDKIp-5kF0yjNcRkEE4Aqk_g1NrxU)

I squished everything inside. Even once I clean it up - it'll be a mess. Here I am making sure everything works after I mounted the motherboard:
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM8KVCkuGryaq-ZpNVh0LQnYOe86jzBaCF7ZgwCayq7f7pHcfI9KOXknQ52pMBiDmihUJ9KIah49ohGdBOpHRs2Q)

And here is where I'm at today - everything is working ok except (and there is always something isn't there?) the computer wants a keyboard attached before it will boot up. Looking in the bios I see no way to not halt on erros. I'll do some more digging, but I may have to strap a keyboard on the back if it doesn't work.
(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM1b_m-H_X8YkouAhaogEQ9i7pwwECY5UjTE4la4bG99DEMX4ufOt7lbbcwWoXWvgizcvtkP4lNGMabSyNL3SFh8)
I'm using GameCreatures Blue layout he created for Mala. It looks great. I don't know where he's been - but he is a great artist.

Check out the red ball top joysticks! They are from Tornado Terry. They are awesome. They mount right in my supers and have a great feel to him. I sent him a few emails back and forth. He's a really great guy to work with - I recommend you check him out if your needing anything he's selling.

I'm putting it up for today. I just need to wire up the CP and clean up the wiring.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: theCoder on November 25, 2006, 11:52:35 pm
The problem you are having with the keyboard should go away when you plug in an IPac.  It looks like a keyboard to the operating system.

I can relate to the tight spot you are in cramming in all the components into your box.  Remember the fun I had on the Partybox project.  I hope I never have a switch or LED go out!

Looks like you are going to finish this think before your move.  Great job.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: leapinlew on November 27, 2006, 01:24:53 am
Cleaned up the wiring today -

I ordered a 1 foot SVGA and two 1 foot power cables from www.national-tech.com  (http://www.national-tech.com) to remove about 15 foot of cabling from inside. Hopefully both the cables and the ipac and buttons show up sometime this week so I can finish it!

I created a bezel out of some left over construction paper. My actual viewing surface is 16" x 13.25".

I also mounted the speaker grills.

As for the weight - I'm thinking it'll weigh in around 50lbs. I've carried around and it can't be too far off from 50lbs.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: javeryh on November 27, 2006, 07:42:34 am
WOW!!! This thing is amazing.  I can't believe you put it all together so fast.  I'm also glad you were able to fix the monitor viewing problem you seemed to be having. 

How does the Dell LCD look?  I'm ordering a 19" one this week or my vertical cab - I've never used an LCD for an arcade monitor and I'm a little worried it won't look "authentic."  I'm not a perfectionist or anything and no one who plays will ever notice but I'd still like it to look arcade-like.

Also, what do the 4 face buttons do?

Looks great!!  I hope the rest of the parts get there soon...
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: leapinlew on November 29, 2006, 07:14:28 pm
The keyboard issue has been resolved! The Ipac uses USB and the computer wants a PS2 keyboard or it won't boot. The computer is a compaq and compaq has a service pack available here: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1013669&admit=-682735245+1164843609917+28353475 (http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1013669&admit=-682735245+1164843609917+28353475). Install that from a boot disc and it bypasses the press F1 keyboard error.

I got the ipac/joysticks today. I will take pictures shortly of the completed project.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: theCoder on November 29, 2006, 10:29:41 pm
I created a bezel out of some left over construction paper...
Did you take any pictures?  How does it look?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: Donkey_Kong on December 17, 2006, 03:51:49 pm
The keyboard issue has been resolved! The Ipac uses USB and the computer wants a PS2 keyboard or it won't boot. The computer is a compaq and compaq has a service pack available here: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1013669&admit=-682735245+1164843609917+28353475 (http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1013669&admit=-682735245+1164843609917+28353475). Install that from a boot disc and it bypasses the press F1 keyboard error.

I got the ipac/joysticks today. I will take pictures shortly of the completed project.

How's she runnin' Lew?

Oh and what do ya mean your sticks are coming? don't you have sticks or are you trying something else?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: Neilyboy on December 18, 2006, 10:49:16 am
im interested in more pics from this project as well since im thinking my next project will be a bar-top!!
Neil
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: leapinlew on December 18, 2006, 05:34:25 pm
It's done. Been done for a while, but the move and the holidays really put a damper on picture taking. Not to mention the freak snowstorm that hit the midwest in Decemeber and knocked our power out for a week.

I'm out of town this week, but I'll post some up as soon as I can.

The joysticks I had coming were replacement tops for my supers. I went with some red balltops on my supers - they look really good.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - The Squish!
Post by: Neilyboy on December 20, 2006, 09:27:06 am
awesome! so you must live around me here in central il too hehe.. we got hit with the powerouttages as well.. anyway glad to hear its complete I love bartops.. I need to finish my upright so I can start on a bartop.

Neil
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: leapinlew on December 23, 2006, 02:01:49 am
Ta Da! All done!

I finished this a while back. Normally these projects are real fun, but I have to admit this one was more of a race against the clock. I highly recommend not building a cab on a tight deadline with tons of things going on in your life!

I didn't officially weigh it, but it has to weigh around 50-60lbs. It's heavy, but manageable. This cabinet will be travelling with me across the country to my new job. Here are some shots:

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM2bZskd199oG0C9b0-Jix9Eb-VKHap-8tC2A-Tjyzk7i5izWuG2ljzedLhg6HcmG6NyeSyIYzDYS_F8M6DM1dPw)

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM54jGESRL61Z-5chBiK-FYjmt2mJYx2-6hNGSlzHUjRDB44kZO2uWEVieFICkVM-cbZpta67CwxalEQB-cCXy_I)

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM7vmp7jL4sQJfXrqGV9VBEHePTg0sycwhbO38E78sb2-G0GeQHfYIo8q2p4WjAZpQypuHBu8omGlH8sXk4zkDmc)
The smoked plexi does such a great job. I recommend it for almost every arcade.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM5Ml8cFajpVLw4xTWPQM0sa8LvybBofxdCB9I3VgcTgS0jWYi-ub7t3JYijWRDtXirYLuUGcUMjlATQYZH1za8k)
Here is a shot of the CP. I placed the reverse button a little further than normal because it felt right during mockup. While it's still very playable, I wish I listened to spacies and put it as close as possible to the joystick. Minor regret, but I think it's worth mentioning if you plan on building a defender layout.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM1GPV0fA2lCi5C_am99dr96YdeHhYSUf25Rkgu0RdYEQPU-NEjxE3hKjDNyu5X9NJPIJB10ol_7Ur4ZZYlYS2_o)
These speaker covers are really just 120mm fan grills.

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMz6qK45YCNgW7Cvw-TiCA24C0IGSgFGN2-vTNr-Su4pJ7388V2PJvmadZ2AH5QL6hqmEFXP5caPLwUhwoZ17Jto)
round supers from Tornado Terry. Very nice!

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sM0n-tmQeRIsYU1BO47Mt8zBoLIlwfslHrcb3FyAT3LuLgKGzSiRlCbDaCuH7VYJ27CBmWkr0ULqysOh2ZLsmycA)

(http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pIjpkUX-8gH9I-dsraz2sMzmre2qeCnRjuIOw12khxNfjvbzDu5ZyTazyJ8sFwZZMzujg5DV2uOVssOMS8aFjG2ago5emQ270m7xfKPwuNRg)
The kickplate turned out real nice. You can also see the red LED's underneath.

Thanks for looking!

Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: theCoder on December 23, 2006, 02:23:29 am
Now that you've had some time with it, how does it play?  The CP turned out nice.  Does it work well with stargate?

Nice job.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: leapinlew on December 23, 2006, 11:16:47 am
Now that you've had some time with it, how does it play?  The CP turned out nice.  Does it work well with stargate?

Nice job.

It plays great.... it's me who can't play stargate! I'm really liking the balltop supers, they seem to respond better than my bat top supers.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: MameMaster! on December 23, 2006, 02:36:23 pm
Really nice job!......I like how you kept the depth down.

I had considered cutting down my bar top to make it less deep.....but I really wanted to have my subwoofer enclosed in my DK bartop.

Enjoy your new toy!  :cheers:
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: Donkey_Kong on December 24, 2006, 07:01:27 pm
Awesome job Lew! Fire off a round of Robotron for me eh?  :cheers:

Don't ditch the handles man. It gives it a custom built character that I like myself!!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: markrvp on December 30, 2006, 10:28:32 pm
I just now saw this Lew.  Great job!!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: arcadefever on December 30, 2006, 10:32:12 pm
nice great looking cab...
how difficult it is to hack a flat screen like that ?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: tranq on December 31, 2006, 03:46:07 pm
Neat, but I could never play ROBOTRON with that stick set-up.   One reason in the consideration of my cab design to make the panel movable (using rubber feet underneath to keep it still) cos, depending on the game - whether it be retro, PC, or VP (I don't like side-buttons) - I need to shift it some way this or that.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: leapinlew on January 01, 2007, 04:04:15 pm
Neat, but I could never play ROBOTRON with that stick set-up.   One reason in the consideration of my cab design to make the panel movable (using rubber feet underneath to keep it still) cos, depending on the game - whether it be retro, PC, or VP (I don't like side-buttons) - I need to shift it some way this or that.

I don't get it. Whats wrong with the stick setup? Or do you mean the control panel itself? How would you play Robotron?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: leapinlew on January 01, 2007, 04:06:10 pm
I just now saw this Lew.  Great job!!

Awesome! Praise from Caesar. Thanks, that means a lot coming from you. I've admired your work since I started this hobby.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: leapinlew on January 01, 2007, 04:08:01 pm
nice great looking cab...
how difficult it is to hack a flat screen like that ?

ArcadeFever,

No hacking involved. It's a desktop LCD that I used. Originally I was going to use a laptop, but I had always intended to use a desktop LCD.

I hope I've giving measurements to anyone who's wanted them. If you want measurements let me know - I'll be happy to be more specific. In fact, I have the template for this still - if you have a pattern bit - you can have the template to make your own.
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: Donkey_Kong on January 03, 2007, 12:14:26 pm
You know what would be awesome lew!??!!

Since your bartop is so small, you could crate it and ship it around the country for us all to try! It could be the byoac community bartop. Yea, I wanna see for myself just how good it plays Robotron!  >:D
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: steveh on January 03, 2007, 12:53:08 pm
DK when your done you can send it my way.  i would like to test it out as well :)
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: leapinlew on January 03, 2007, 01:04:16 pm
You know what would be awesome lew!??!!

Since your bartop is so small, you could crate it and ship it around the country for us all to try! It could be the byoac community bartop. Yea, I wanna see for myself just how good it plays Robotron!  >:D

Pass around my baby like some cheap floozy?! What do you think it is - a Ms. Pac-man or something?
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: edge on January 03, 2007, 07:39:45 pm
You know what would be awesome lew!??!!

Since your bartop is so small, you could crate it and ship it around the country for us all to try! It could be the byoac community bartop. Yea, I wanna see for myself just how good it plays Robotron!  >:D

Pass around my baby like some cheap floozy?! What do you think it is - a Ms. Pac-man or something?

Leapinlew - Don't think of it like that... Think of it more like the Stanley cup.  It will be police escorted everywhere it goes... with tons of people lining up to drink out of it.  :P

Seriously.  Nice job.  I love how you mounted the pc components in such a tight place.  If possible, can you share the dimensions with me?  I can add it to my long list of projects.  Thanks!
Title: Re: LeapinLew: Bartop Cabinet - Completed!
Post by: psychotech on January 03, 2007, 08:24:19 pm
Well, hello!

Last time I saw your build you were still going to use the laptop...

What can I say, awesome work fitting that MB & stuf there!

Congratulations on a great looking cab!!

..back to bmoac :)