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Title: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 07, 2006, 10:13:05 am
Anyone dealt with the people that we all need to avoid...The people that take our hard earned money and run,  Bad traders or transactions,  Please list them, You get the idea...

- JudgeDredd is a bad trader - takes your money and runs- see neo-geo.com for details

--Note from saint about this thread--
Threads like these have the potential to get ugly.  Please keep it civil and to the point, keep personal vendectives out of it, etc. Feedback is good - bile isn't.

Just the facts, ma'am.

--- saint
Title: Re: Bad Traders List
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 12, 2006, 07:15:00 am
I am adding "Harpal" AKA
Name: RANJIT GILL     
See Picture Below
Email:  ACIDGILL@HOTMAIL.COM
to the top of the list- I paid him over 6 weeks ago for a simpsons board and a mvs cart, still have yet to receive anything.
If you are going to sell something at least send an update. Stated that it would take 5-10 days..

What I have done to date-

- Sent numerous email in the last few weeks with no replies
- Never received a shipped out date
- Never received a confirmation/tracking #
- Never received a receipt as promised
- Never updated on what is going on

USPS states that packages take 4-6 weeks to ship from UK to the USA, its been over 6 weeks now. I understand if he has had issues with his items, but how much effort does it take to type up an email message to send an update.... Besides my package was shipped out before this had happened, makes me wonder...

Last email that I received:

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Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: APFelon on March 12, 2006, 09:59:55 am
MMMMMMmmMMMMMmmmMMmm.... I love the smell of dirty laundry in the morning...

APf
Title: Re: Bad Traders List
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 12, 2006, 03:38:03 pm
Another BYOAC members email: Please read:

pcates
Full Member

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Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: AlexC on March 12, 2006, 03:50:31 pm
I also tried to buy some stuff from Harpal as well and he kept making excuses and never sent the stuff.
I filed a claim against him in Paypal and since he never responded, I got my money back.
His Ebay username in UK Ebay is :  acidforums
So don't buy from this sorry SOB.  >:(
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: ponyboy on March 12, 2006, 04:47:17 pm
I love this thread.

I have one that wont return e-mails or pay his bill.

Full Member:  Abomination

Ponyboy
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: SOAPboy on March 12, 2006, 05:11:08 pm
Chalk another one up for harpal here.. :-|

Owes me 2 Xbox 360s..
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: saint on March 13, 2006, 08:59:34 am
Threads like these have the potential to get ugly.  Please keep it civil and to the point, keep personal vendectives out of it, etc. Feedback is good - bile isn't.

Just the facts, ma'am.

--- saint
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: markrvp on March 14, 2006, 10:45:17 am
I would like to add KSKID to the bad sellers list.  Here is the thread to support this listing:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=50501.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=50501.0)


In summary, he initially offered a Star Castle cabinet for sale in good condition for $150.  It was believed to be a cabinet previously determined as having front damage.  After there were no takers, KSKID lowered the price to $75 or $200 bundled with another cabinet.

Nostrebor, a well-respected member of this website offered the guy $75 for the Star Castle cabinet.  The guy refused, saying that he would need at least $100 for the trouble of separating the cabinets.  Nostrebor posted a "buyer beware" notice and KSKID then accused Nostrebor of wanting a handout.

KSKID also berated people in the thread I linked for not buying his cabinets after several people asked for pictures.  He apparently thought that was an unreasonable burden to place on him.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: Arcadiac on March 14, 2006, 12:12:09 pm
And let the poo-flinging begin!!  ARCADIAC!  ;D

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Post by: missioncontrol on March 14, 2006, 02:31:21 pm
let the show begin.......
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Post by: SNAAKE on March 14, 2006, 03:11:55 pm
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f319/scootmagee/ha_ha.jpg)
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: kjoel0123 on March 14, 2006, 07:10:29 pm
Lets all thank peale for pinning this thread, lets all help each other out and not only make this thread just harpal but every bad trader/scammer that tries to do no good, please post it here in this thread, please also keep it clean. thank you
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: saint on March 15, 2006, 08:16:25 am
Dealings with Harpal now have their own thread (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51548.0).
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Q*Bert_OP on March 15, 2006, 01:25:11 pm
armad1ll0 THUMBS DOWN

Read More HERE:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=18008.msg441641#msg441641
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SteveS on April 03, 2006, 06:11:42 pm
Jim Kaylegian from Buffalo Grove, IL

from his website:

http://www.jamesgames.biz

For our company information call (224)619-6000 or E-mail to info@jamesgames.biz

We also sell on EBay under the name sheljk!

Gave him a $1250 deposit on a MAME cabinet.  The first one he did for me is very nice and works fine.  The 2nd is still not done after 1 year.   He doesn't answer e-mail or phone.

Funny, he also says this on his site:

"We pride ourselves in the motto "Winners take responsibility, losers make excuses!""

Everytime I called him he had one problem or emergency after another.   Bad news.

thanks,
Steve S
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Havok on April 05, 2006, 09:42:59 am
Gave him a $1250 deposit on a MAME cabinet.  The first one he did for me is very nice and works fine.  The 2nd is still not done after 1 year.   He doesn't answer e-mail or phone.

Says on his website he has $10K in parts in stock - I guess you own 12.5% of that...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SteveS on April 05, 2006, 10:21:33 am
 :laugh2:


lol!!!
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SOAPboy on April 11, 2006, 04:04:16 am
Jim Kaylegian from Buffalo Grove, IL

from his website:

http://www.jamesgames.biz

For our company information call (224)619-6000 or E-mail to info@jamesgames.biz

We also sell on EBay under the name sheljk!

Gave him a $1250 deposit on a MAME cabinet.  The first one he did for me is very nice and works fine.  The 2nd is still not done after 1 year.   He doesn't answer e-mail or phone.

Funny, he also says this on his site:

"We pride ourselves in the motto "Winners take responsibility, losers make excuses!""

Everytime I called him he had one problem or emergency after another.   Bad news.

thanks,
Steve S


He lives in buffalo grove... My Grandpa lives there.. Might be able to call in some "family" favors..
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Goz on April 11, 2006, 09:53:10 am
Yeah send Grandpa over to kick his arse....
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SOAPboy on April 19, 2006, 05:30:50 pm
Yeah send Grandpa over to kick his arse....

lol.. nah he wouldnt go himself, he'd get someone else to do it..
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: bigsexyc420 on June 02, 2006, 09:46:11 pm
OK well this is whats happeing to me right now:

I had a trade i offered, somebody took the offer.  We exchanged names and info, and contact was smooth, quick responses.

We both agree to send our items on the same day with tracking # confirmation.

I have sent my item and have given a confermation # that shows when i sent it.

He however, has sent one one reply with a tracking # that doesnt work.

I have been trying to contact him by email, and for the past 2 days he hasnt replied.

The last email i sent was earlier, telling him how i feel about the situation, and that if he would just do his part of the deal, it would be square.

But he doesnt want to reply, and i know that hes been online cause theres a tracker on this site that tells when somebody is last online.

Please tell me what you guys think of this situation, what should i do?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SirPeale on June 02, 2006, 10:37:34 pm
Please tell me what you guys think of this situation, what should i do?

You said email, but have you sent a PM via this board?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SteveS on June 03, 2006, 12:34:33 am
ok, I'm probably a sucker (see my post above) but I would give the guy a few more days.  I have seen several tracking numbers not work until the day after the product arrived at my house.  I sent a board to Russia or some place like that and the tracking number never worked but the guy still got the part.  Let us know how it works out.

Steve
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: bigsexyc420 on June 03, 2006, 01:29:26 pm
but you see the problem im having here is not only does the tracking # not work.

But is seems like this guy has stopped contact with me all together.

Before the transaction was made he was constantly replying to my emails, giving me info asap.

Now i dont get any replies whatsoever.

 :lame:
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: pointdablame on June 03, 2006, 04:36:32 pm
Did you check references for this person? Check other contact information (email, phone number) before sending out the package?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: bigsexyc420 on June 03, 2006, 05:21:10 pm
yeah, i did but no Phone #

hes actually a member on this forum,  but i dont want to name any names just yet.

He also gave me a link to another forum where he is a gold member with 10 successfull trades

I understand that people are very busy and that maybe the number he gave me was mistyped? or maybe the system on the tracking is just slow.

But we both agreed that we were going to send out the packages at the same time.

even if he doesnt respond, as long as he fullfills his part of the bargain ill be a happy camper.

So im gonna have to just be patient and see if a package comes in the mail.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kjoel0123 on June 04, 2006, 09:40:08 pm
Whats this users name? What did you send him? How many days has it been since he so called mailed out the package? If it was sent 1st class, the cheapest way it could take up to a month, even more until you receive it...

Do yourself a favor, dont trust anyone. Do all trades in person, always try to buy in person, that way you can see what you are buying... I have been taken from a loser on here and it took 4 months to get my money back from the credit card company..
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: bigsexyc420 on June 07, 2006, 10:18:48 pm
OK heres the deal on whats going on now.

I just checked the tracking # of the package that i sent to this guy and it has been delivered
I sent him a GP32 system, in request for some DVDs with data on them.

I have sent numerous emails to this guy, and still i get no reply.   :hissy:

I ask nice for him just to fullfill his part of the deal, and yet he still does not respond to my request.

So now im going to call him out through here. 

PLEASE JUST DO YOUR PART OF THE DEAL.

I am now forced to give his SN .

the user i am talkin about is :  apmanttt

his real name is        Daniel Lindholm

He lives at            (removed by moderator)

This guy doesnt even give me any kind of contact whatsoever, i have PM'd him through these forums, still no reply.

Lots of emails.  Probably over a dozen were sent.  I do not know what to do about this situation.  Please help me out and find this guy   :angry:


He assured me that he was a gold trader, but yet no reply to any of my emails, he gives me a fake tracking # that doesnt work. 

I dont know what to do.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: johnperkins21 on June 15, 2006, 08:22:51 pm
I sent him a GP32 system, in request for some DVDs with data on them.

"DVDs with data on them?" Sounds nefarious. If the data is not exactly "on the level", I am not surprised in the least this guy didn't hold up his end of the bargain. It's hard to trust people willing to deal in not exactly legal goods. This could be all on the up and up, but it certainly doesn't seem that way.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: TheOtherBob on June 16, 2006, 09:02:20 am
the user i am talkin about is :  apmanttt

his real name is        Daniel Lindholm

He lives at            (removed by moderator)

Do a residential search at www.dexonline.com (http://www.dexonline.com) for Lindholm in Winona, MN.  That address and a phone # comes right up.  Now you can call as well.

Good luck.....
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: bigsexyc420 on June 19, 2006, 02:08:49 am
the user i am talkin about is :  apmanttt

his real name is        Daniel Lindholm

He lives at             (address removed by moderator)

Do a residential search at www.dexonline.com (http://www.dexonline.com) for Lindholm in *********.  That address and a phone # comes right up.  Now you can call as well.

Good luck.....


I tried that site with the info but no results are showin up.   :badmood:

Thanks for everybodys help, I just hope that from now on this guy is just going to have a bad reputation among this site and other site that he goes on from now on.

He should know better than trying to rip off a person who was trying to just do something good.

If you guys can also spread the word on this guy, im sure he'll think twice before doing this again, and maybe might pursuade him to do something to fix this problem with me.

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Havok on July 31, 2006, 09:08:22 am
Looks like he lives with Mom and Dad. Something comes up with this:

http://www.netsleuth.com/address.cgi

You have to sign up, but it gives you access for 30 days free. I would of course, just cancel once you have the information you need.

Nothing like a phone call to jog his memory about fulfilling his end of the bargain...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rschwarz_jr on August 02, 2006, 03:03:17 pm
I'd like to add USSEnterprise.

I bought a computer from him and it was damaged when I received it. He said that he would refund money and send me a new mouse as the one shipped was crushed. He has done neither. I didn't make a big deal that the case was damaged, but working and that the black floppy drive was half assed paint job.

This is not some ripoff scam but I wanted people to know that when dealing with this guy expect problems and expect him not to deal with it. He seems to sell things often so beware.

As for USSEnterprise I want a mouse and I want some money back. Now



Here are the latest messages:
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Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: USSEnterprise on August 02, 2006, 03:30:15 pm
I'll ship you your damn mouse. As for everyone else who is awaiting packages from me, they are being shipped out as I type. I am sorry for the continued delays. I know how it must make me look. Its hard when you are reliant on others for your transportation.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: shardian on August 02, 2006, 03:52:06 pm
That is not a very nice attitude enterprise. I totally understand this guy's view. Yes, it sucks that he posted you in the bad traders forum, but getting short with his very valid claim on your lack of timeliness is no way to defend yourself.
I have been patient while waiting the 2 1/2 weeks between payment and shipping on the keywiz I purchased from you. However, I do feel that it is YOUR(the sellers) responsiblity to notify buyers of delays in shipping. Sellers shouldn't have to keep emailing you asking if you have shipped.
I like you dude, but please check the attitude at the door when you are holding someone elses money.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rschwarz_jr on August 02, 2006, 04:04:58 pm
Thanks for the support.
All I want is what was promised in a reasonable amount of time. I made the post because my complaints were being ignored.

You said you are sending a mouse but you neglected to address the refund you promised.

Also USSEnterprise if you can't deliver stop selling things. It's just irresponsible.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: USSEnterprise on August 02, 2006, 04:24:43 pm
All right.
 :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
I'll ship you a mouse. Hell, for to all the trouble I've put you through, I'll make it a wireless one. Additionally, I'll refund you $20. Can we call it even afterwards? My Mom is out right now dropping packages off at the post office. They are being shipped Priority. This includes a Sears Telegames console for MissionControl, a Keywiz for Sharidan, two PCI video cards for nostebor, and a betson trackball for Dave_K. I will run out to Staples tomorrow and grab the mouse. I know that you have no reason to believe me, but I will. I will then ship the mouse to you the same day. I am sorry this got so ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- up.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: shardian on August 02, 2006, 04:33:23 pm
See, I knew you were a good guy. I vote for a mod to remove these few posts from this thread once the "mouse thing"  is finalized.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rschwarz_jr on August 02, 2006, 04:44:38 pm
I'll second that
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: USSEnterprise on August 03, 2006, 05:25:24 pm
Everything I sold, including an Optical Cordless Scroll Mouse with a $20 bill in the CD sleeve, has been shipped via UPS Ground on August 3rd, 2006. Tracking numbers can be provided on request.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: rschwarz_jr on August 07, 2006, 12:17:37 pm
Everything was received. I think all record of this issue should be removed.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: missioncontrol on August 07, 2006, 12:51:29 pm
FYI

I received my Telegames from USSEnterprise.. for the record I have delt with him as both a buyer and seller and he has been straight up with me both times. I will most likely do business with him again... Sure I would have liked faster shipping, but understanding that as a minor, he is limited on means of transportation and slow shipping could be expected and the fact that he isn't a business but an individual selling things, we got to remember that Real LifeTM can get in the way. I do plan on placing my reccomendation of him in the good sellers thread since my dealings with him went fine.

Thanks
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: shardian on August 10, 2006, 07:42:41 am
Received package from ussenterprise. Thank you.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SNAAKE on September 07, 2006, 12:48:12 am
add oceancube to the list.

false advertized his item and sold me a 2.6 psp even though I paid for a 1.5 version and the headphones was torn in half. Refused to give a refund. He shouldnt be allowed to do any further trades here.

if you wanna post anything about me, be my guest. I can have 100+ that will back me up with positive feedbacks. I've done business with countless # of people around here and I dont think I ever had any problem with anyone before. everything always went smooth !
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kaz1961 on September 10, 2006, 06:22:23 pm
BAD TRADER ALERT: NJDevils2006. Traded a pinball machine for a receiver with member NJDevils2006 and the receiver was broken. Until this trade I had never had a bad trader on this board so I made the mistake of taking his word that it worked. He said he had no idea it was broken and he would "make it right". Well, the repair cost me $162 and he now ignores my PM's and emails.

saint's note: Disputed.  See http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=57987.0
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Webmaster Please Pin This Topic -
Post by: Banacek on September 30, 2006, 02:15:45 pm
I would like to add KSKID to the bad sellers list.  Here is the thread to support this listing:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=50501.0 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=50501.0)


For the record, KSKID and I just had dealings and I have to say everything was great. He went above and beyond to help me for FREE. I just noticed this here and I thought I'd put my two cents in.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: nullb0y on October 05, 2006, 08:32:45 pm
when did i post this :(  :banghead:
sorry
wasnt ur fault
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: marknetwork on October 25, 2006, 11:51:12 pm
nullb0y, I had stated that whoever sends me payment first gets the spinner I wanted to sell it and move on.  I'm sorry man I'm not sure what to say but that certainly does not make me a bad seller, it was sold for the same price offered to you and everyone else on the forum.  What can I do man, I'm sorry you missed out.  I have lots of other stuff for sale if you're interested however.

:dunno
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: deadmoney5 on October 29, 2006, 09:58:34 am
Hey Bigsexy..

I remember that Lindholm guy because I also live in MN.. Awhile back I tried using him to get a complete set of Mame roms on 3 dvds.   I sent him the money via paypal and received nothing to this day...

Since it was only about $12, I just moved on...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: marknetwork on November 06, 2006, 07:00:43 pm
situation resolved
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: sac01 on November 06, 2006, 07:07:06 pm
settled
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: northerngames on January 12, 2007, 05:59:03 pm
none so far.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: csa3d on March 21, 2007, 11:39:28 pm
Bad trader:  Peale

I've been more then patient waiting for any sign that he's going to send me our agreed upon lot.  This deal occured almost a month ago by now.  I actually screwed myself over with shipping, but out of saving face, completed the transaction and sent the part.  UPS has confirmed he's recieved the board.  I've sent numerous PM's and emails and suddenly since he's recieved the product, he quits checking these lines of communication.  Traders:  Do not trust anyone, even board moderators, and send off the product before receiving the money.  The excuse thus far is, "I don't check my PMs" and "I haven't had time to get to a post office."  I've offered to send a self address stamped envelope.  No reply.  Beware.

-csa
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SirPeale on March 22, 2007, 06:59:23 pm
Bad trader:  Peale

I've been more then patient waiting for any sign that he's going to send me our agreed upon lot.  This deal occured almost a month ago by now.  I actually screwed myself over with shipping, but out of saving face, completed the transaction and sent the part.  UPS has confirmed he's recieved the board.  I've sent numerous PM's and emails and suddenly since he's recieved the product, he quits checking these lines of communication.  Traders:  Do not trust anyone, even board moderators, and send off the product before receiving the money.  The excuse thus far is, "I don't check my PMs" and "I haven't had time to get to a post office."  I've offered to send a self address stamped envelope.  No reply.  Beware.

-csa


After an agreed upon price, he says he'll ship out a board to me.  Then he says that it cost more to send the package than we agreed upon.  To his benefit he says he'll take it for what we agreed upon, but I say that's not fair and state I'll compensate him fairly.

I've sent several PMs and email replies.  Your check has been sent.  I even sent more than I said I would. 

It is true that I don't check my PMs every day.  It's also true that I live in rural Vermont and getting to the post office isn't the easiest thing.

But it's done.  Check your mail.  Both "E" and Post.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: FrizzleFried on March 22, 2007, 07:15:07 pm
Quote
Bad Trader: csa3d

After an agreed upon price, he says he'll ship out a board to me.  Then he says that it cost more to send the package than we agreed upon.  To his benefit he says he'll take it for what we agreed upon, but I say that's not fair and state I'll compensate him fairly.

To be fair Peale,  how does that make him a bad trader?  He sent the package even though it cost more to ship than he anticipated (I know about this as it just happened to me) and asked for no additional compensation?

I am not trying to "stir the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---" so to speak,  but I just wonder how this makes him a bad trader?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SirPeale on March 22, 2007, 07:30:38 pm
Quote
Bad Trader: csa3d

After an agreed upon price, he says he'll ship out a board to me.  Then he says that it cost more to send the package than we agreed upon.  To his benefit he says he'll take it for what we agreed upon, but I say that's not fair and state I'll compensate him fairly.

To be fair Peale,  how does that make him a bad trader?  He sent the package even though it cost more to ship than he anticipated (I know about this as it just happened to me) and asked for no additional compensation?

I am not trying to "stir the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---" so to speak,  but I just wonder how this makes him a bad trader?


You're right; I've edited my post.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: csa3d on March 23, 2007, 03:17:27 am
I've sent several PMs and email replies.  Your check has been sent.  I even sent more than I said I would. 

Thank you for letting me know this.  This is the first time I've heard that you've taken actions, and frankly is all I wanted to hear is a 'heads up, it's been sent'.   That's big of you to agree to make up for shipping.  However, I haven't received any PM or email saying anything has been sent; so the shocking forum message technique did it's job.  When the check arrives my tune will change highly.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: csa3d on March 23, 2007, 03:21:49 am
He sent the package even though it cost more to ship than he anticipated (I know about this as it just happened to me) and asked for no additional compensation?

To clarify, I did ask for more.  Maybe that makes me in the wrong.  I figured the worst one could say was 'no', then it's my fault for not checkinging more thouroughly into this.  Regardless, it was shipped prior to me asking and if a check came for the agreed upon amount then awesome.

Appologies to everyone for having to be a 'squeeky wheel'.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SirPeale on March 23, 2007, 06:08:23 am
This is the first time I've heard that you've taken actions, and frankly is all I wanted to hear is a 'heads up, it's been sent'.   

Check your spambox.  Like I said, I've sent several emails.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: DrewKaree on March 23, 2007, 09:04:14 pm
Bad trader:  Peale

I've been more then patient waiting for any sign that he's going to send me our agreed upon lot.  This deal occured almost a month ago by now.  I actually screwed myself over with shipping, but out of saving face, completed the transaction and sent the part.  UPS has confirmed he's recieved the board. 

-csa

Seeing politicians do this makes me sick.  Seeing it happen here just pisses me off.  It appears nobody else seemed to catch what you've done, so I highlighted it.

Show us when UPS confirmed that he actually GOT the board.

You admit to agreeing to a price almost a month ago.  You also admit to then asking for more than the agreed upon price.  This means you took time yourself between when you state this deal went down and when you then asked him for more money.

Given the fact that you wanted to change the original agreed-upon deal, I believe anybody would be leery at that point.  You agreeing to send the board out and have him send payment later was a decent thing for you to do, given the initial issue, but you SHOULD be able to see why someone would now be leery to have payment cross in the mail at this point.

So tell us when UPS says the package was received.  If this is something stupid like a week or so, then I have a definite problem with the way you chose to word your slam of a member who's sold many things to others without the problems you seem to have.  He's gone out of his way in the past to HAVE THINGS MADE for people in this hobby that NOBODY - not Randi, not Andy, not Christian, NOBODY -  offers.  That's not the sign of a bad trader, and your deal is anything BUT typical of the many dealings others have had with him, and it offends me to think you're gonna slam a well-respected and (other than you, evidently) EXCELLENT trader because of the way you handled this deal from the get-go.

Why this pisses me off is my darned-near definite guess that Peale's had more satisfactory deals with people on this forum than you've got posts, and someone who's just coming here with no idea what's what might get the idea based on how YOU chose to word this, and your odd ommission in the original post of when UPS said he got the package, that Peale has been anything OTHER than an EXCELLENT trader. 

Say, are you going to send him BACK the excess money above and beyond the original agreement for trying to damage his reputation and the childish attempt to somehow "shame" him into paying you? 
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: JackTucky on March 23, 2007, 09:34:43 pm
Drew sticks up for gays, I mean guys

=J
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: DrewKaree on March 23, 2007, 09:43:21 pm

Drew sticks up for gays

=J


You of all people should be thankful for that ;D
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: JackTucky on March 23, 2007, 10:09:58 pm
You of all people should be thankful for that ;D

Drew loves people!

=J
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SirPeale on March 24, 2007, 08:03:34 am
I did get the board, Drew.  No worries.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: csa3d on March 24, 2007, 05:58:08 pm
You admit to agreeing to a price almost a month ago.  You also admit to then asking for more than the agreed upon price.  This means you took time yourself between when you state this deal went down and when you then asked him for more money.

I asked for more money 10 minutes after arriving home from the UPS shipping station.  Note that I arrived home *without* the board and it was considered shipped at that point for the agreed upon price.  Thus, I asked for money after the shipping process occured.

If you are going to trade, on this board or anywhere, you can't just stop communicating period.  The deal went down over ArcadeControls.com private messages, which stopped after I gave him the UPS shipping number.  I never received any email nor PM of him ever saying the check was sent.  He claims to have emailed me, I have nothing in my spambox.  I can only assume he sent it either to the wrong address or not at all.

The good news is that the check arrived today in the mail.  The bad news is that I basically gave my board away for free.  That's buisness, it's done.  I am not happy with the lack of communication, and have every right to feel that I am obligated to notificaiton that monies have been sent.  I gave a ups number, I expect courtesy in return.

You my be pissed, that's fine.  After how many PM's unanswered would you say is a good number to send off before resorting to this?  All I know is that my answer came 1 day after this posted, so therefore it suceeded in communicating.

I'm cool with everything that happened, and I don't hate Peale, and hopefully the same is said about myself.  I can say that this deal lacked superior customer service in terms of communication.  In the future, I also know that I'll be including shipping in my any deal I should send.

/rant
-csa
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: FrizzleFried on March 25, 2007, 12:19:29 pm
He sent the package even though it cost more to ship than he anticipated (I know about this as it just happened to me) and asked for no additional compensation?

To clarify, I did ask for more.  Maybe that makes me in the wrong.  I figured the worst one could say was 'no', then it's my fault for not checkinging more thouroughly into this.  Regardless, it was shipped prior to me asking and if a check came for the agreed upon amount then awesome.

Appologies to everyone for having to be a 'squeeky wheel'.

Hmmm....

EDIT: Removed semi-objectionable opinion piece...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SirPeale on March 25, 2007, 02:21:32 pm
Enough.  He's got his money, and I've got my board.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: tommy on March 29, 2007, 11:41:26 am
I was just reading all that harpal crap.... anything ever happen with that?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: glgaz on April 03, 2007, 10:23:46 am
I guess it's time I posted my story about Nitewalker ... this is going to run long.

Last year, I needed three custom sticks built. After fielding several offers from the trading forum, I decided to go with Nitewalker because of his quick turnaround time and low price. While he was still learning the stick building trade, I had confidence based on his work that he would indeed be able to complete the work and get the items to me by the time I needed them. This transaction worked out well, he built them fast and for what it's worth, all three still work to this day.

Now we move onto the not so great part. Shortly after the successful stick build, I came into some money and decided to embark on a new kind of project, a control panel/supergun that would be a large two player panel with the CPS2 board and everything inside. Of course, seeing as our first transaction had went so well and he expressed interest in it as well, on May 19,2006, I paid him $100.00 to start the project and get parts together.

Time went by with little to no progress, seeing as I knew it was a new style build for him, I didn't want to rush him, I figured he would be finished when he would be finished and that was it. I finally get a progress picture, it's the top panel, a large piece of MDF with holes drilled in it. Upon seeing this progress, as we agreed, I forwarded him another $100.00 to him on June 7, 2006.

So let's keep track, to date $200.00 spent.

Knowing I couldn't have a great setup like this with no art, I contacted DJ-Van and had him make a custom piece of stick art for this panel that was almost four and a half feet in size. Because of the scope and time involved, I paid him $60. Of course, I needed to get the boards ready for this project, so I purchased them from ebay for about $100.00 shipped. A set of Capcom A+B boards. After having them sent to Nitewalker, he was going to forward them out to Razool for Phoenixing. This is where the long no contact periods began. I would go a week or two with no update or contact at all. PM's and emails begun to go unanswered and there was no response.

Total of $360.00 spent

Out of the blue one day, I get a message that he fell on some hard times but he is still going to complete the project at his cost. After so long of not hearing from him, I figure this is pretty fair and decide to wait it out. Again, long periods of no contact begin before I finally just tell him that I want my money and boards back. After getting no response from this, I decide to go the police route.

I send him a PM mentioning that I will contact the police if I don't hear from him by the next day. Ten minutes later I get a reply telling me that he will send me back the boards, sticks, buttons, wiring harnesses he bought, control panel progress he made and $200. After another month of pestering him, I finally got my CPS2 Boards back (Missing parts that had been there when it was sent to him) and the wiring harnesses. When I asked where the sticks and buttons were, I was told he 'ended up needing them'. I was able to recover some of my money from selling the now Phoenixed boards but not much, I was still very much in the negative.

As it stands, I'm still owed the control panel progress and $200.00. I'm not holding my breath on seeing either anytime soon. I got an email from him last week saying he was going to pay me soon, but I'm sure it's just more BS from someone whose best practice is making excuses.

I understand life happens, changes happen and we all have to adjust but it's been nearly a year and there's no excuse for not contacting me, it wouldn't have taken more than a minute or two to send a PM.

If you're looking for information on him, here's what I was able to find on the web.

Personal information removed - don't post people's addresses & phone please --- saint

That is his fathers address, perhaps by contacting him, I might have more luck getting my money and panel work back.

Here's the last address I have from John ...

Personal information removed - don't post people's addresses & phone please --- saint

Emails are as follows ...

hdililoo@nycap.rr.com (paypal address)
nitewalkergr@yahoo.com

Active forum profiles ....

Shoryuken - Nitewalker

Arcade Controls - Nitewalker (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/inde...profile;u=6207)

Photobucket - http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/NiteWalkerGR/
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: segasonicfan on April 08, 2007, 06:46:03 am
I'd like to add Antonio Botello to the list. username eastbayarb/ARB

I posted details here on his selling ad: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=63261.0
Sold me a cab which he clearly states as only needing adjustment when it actually had all sorts of stuff broken on the tube.  He refuses to give me any kind of partial refund.

email: eastbayarb@gmail.com


-Segasonicfan
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: saint on April 19, 2007, 10:10:50 am
segasonicfan v. eastbayarb thread has been separated out to a new thread. Keep it clean please.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=65808.0
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: missioncontrol on July 02, 2007, 08:27:26 am
Although the transaction was communicated on another forum, I'd like to add horseboy to the list of bad traders. He has received an older laptop that I had to offer and has failed to send me the money. Since he was a member here and at the other forum I frequent, I had no problems cross shipping the transaction, but sadly I guess I should have waited for payment first. I have tried contacting him several times about getting paid and since then he has become inactive in both forums.


Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Hoopz on November 06, 2007, 06:35:12 am
User: robot8319 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=11922/)

He posted a thread in B/S/T selling a Guncon2 for $25 shipped.  We agreed on the transaction and payment was sent via Paypal immediately.  He had payment within 10 minutes of the PM's being sent.  This was on Sept 27, 2007.

In the span of 4 weeks, I received emails stating that it had been shipped, had not been shipped, was about to be shipped.  I finally escalated this to a dispute/claim on Paypal. 

He also posted this quote on 10/17/07.

sorry about this but i have to make this public. but it has come to my attention that quite a few people have not gotten their stuff yet.

if you have purchased anything from in the last few weeks please email me at..

whines83_1@netzero.com

i have lost the password to my paypal account an since i have had multiple accounts with my prepaid CC's paypal is not being very helpful with the situation.

please tell me what you purchased and when you paid for it.

or you can you can just email me your details i have sold so much stuff i have gotten a few of them sent to the wrong address's an or returned to me.

i would rather you email me what you bought or just post it here.

hoping to hear from you guys ASAP!!




Until he responds, sends funds back, or I receive the item, I can not think this is anything more than a scam.

EDIT:  I got $2.75 of the $25.00 that was sent to him, back via the Paypal dispute. 
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: payment_due on September 28, 2008, 12:54:43 am
User: Raven.. (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=4692)

Guy's a bad seller and a time waster.  Was in contact with him for nearly a month because of horribly bad communication skills and still sold to someone else from under me. Claims he wants money up front for commitment, but still finds time to build superguns without payment. Thinks people should just send money without knowing what their purchasing and offers to 'fix' the problem by sending something he doesn't have or something you might not want. PM me for any details, or view this thread: click me (http://www.lealmedia.com/raven/raven2.html)
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: TOK on September 28, 2008, 06:53:15 am
User: Raven.. (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=4692)

Guy's a bad seller and a time waster.  Was in contact with him for nearly a month because of horribly bad communication skills and still sold to someone else from under me. Claims he wants money up front for commitment, but still finds time to build superguns without payment. Thinks people should just send money without knowing what their purchasing and offers to 'fix' the problem by sending something he doesn't have or something you might not want. PM me for any details, or view this thread: click me (http://www.lealmedia.com/raven/raven2.html)

I think its a great testament to this board that this thread goes months upon months without new messages. Lack of communication can easily make someone  a bad seller after you've sent them money, but what have you actually lost?

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted, but this message actually seems out of place to me after reading your linked thread.

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: payment_due on September 28, 2008, 11:08:39 am
What I think is funny is that the bad trader list is not sticky.  You'd think the list of people to avoid would be a sticky, but it's not.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: SirPeale on September 28, 2008, 11:17:37 am
What I think is funny is that the bad trader list is not sticky.  You'd think the list of people to avoid would be a sticky, but it's not.

Corrected.  I think it was originally but when seller ratings was implemented it became outdated.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: debauche on November 30, 2008, 04:07:37 pm
Ebay ID - cjvendinggames

Email - kentuckybred@hotmail.com

Names - Casey Thompson Mays
            - Tony M Wash

Location - <<No addresses please>> --- saint
                 Nicholasville KY 40356

These guys are total liars and thieves. This started with a supposedly NOS Tron shroud. They had gotten a negative on it from a previous Ebay sale for selling it, and never sendign it. I saw it on the re-post and asked about it. Was told it was NOS, but the pictures were very tiny and did not (conveniently) show the areas that would make it known if it was used or not. The seller pulled the auction to hold it for me (I didn't ask for him to do that..the guy obviously has a problem with fees or paying out any money) and I asked for more pictures on SPECIFIC areas like the front lip, and asked SPECIFICALLY if there were things like cigarette burns. Weeks pass and nothing..just excuses when I email. One day I notice the shroud is back up on Ebay, with new pics (larger, but still hiding the front lip area of the shroud), and a new description saying it was definitely NOS, and had no cigarette burns as he was being asked that a lot blah blah.. I emailed and asked wtf..why did he put up a new auction when I was sitting here waiting for something so simple like more pictures.. I got no reply, but noticed the auction all of a sudden got pulled by the seller again.. I thought he probably sold it to someone else and just forgot about it. But, the seller emails me, then phones and we discuss it..says there are no burns, its definitely new..etc..and that he pulled it for me.
So I decide to take a chance on it against my better judgement.  I email the guy (Casey, who is acting as the seller for his computer challenged buddy Tony) and ask for specific wrapping/packaging materials since this is a pretty rare find. I offer to pay more for the materials. I get a Paypal request about 5 minutes later askign for 30$ more for the packaging materials on top of the cost of item, and shipping. I wondered how they came up with that so fast, but it seemed about right to what I had asked for...bubble wrap..etc.. Weeks pass.. I email the guy and ask what is up.. get a story about Tony on vacation, his house is locked and the shroud is boxed and ready to go there... excuses.. about a week later, get a tracking number from usps. Total time is almost exactly a month.. just long enough to be out of reach of Paypal.. not that they care anyways.. you can only claim if you get an empty box, or nothing at all.. not a misrepresented item..
When I got the box..it was in a 'very' flimsy used box. Opened it up, and there are chunks of foam all over the place..what these two morons did was charge me extra for packaging materials, then take, literally, foam from other packing like dvd players..etc..and break that into pieces, and shove into the box around the shroud. In fact not ONE new piece of material was in that box...so much for paying extra.. Oh well, seemed to have made it ok even though I was steamed at getting ripped off on that.. but I pulled out the shroud and it was as I had feared..OBVIOUSLY used..the front lip was dirty, and had a strip running down it where the metal hold down bracket goes..any moron could see that.. and on the left side..MANY cigarette burns.. I emailed the guys back with pictures I took that clearly showed those areas..something they could have done in 2 seconds, but didn't. I also asked about the packing materials and where the 30$ went for that.. got nothing but excuses. These idiots even after my pictures still stuck by the idea that this was new and that they should not refund because I was 'just not happy with the item' like I had just decided I didn't want it... not the fact they had plainly ripped me off by lying. After MULTIPLE emails and threats, Casey finally relented a bit and stated he would take it back... but only if I paid for shipping to return it to him. I explained this was like buying something brand new on Amazon, then getting the box, opening it up,  and finding a used item in the box instead... and Amazon saying you had to pay to send it back.. ridiculous. After that, no further replies.. They expect me to pay to send it back, and trust they will refund me. These two are complete liars, and blatant thieves.
Avoid these liars at all costs!
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Havok on November 30, 2008, 05:06:24 pm
Dude - that was fishy from the start. You definitely should not have dealt with them. Sorry to hear you got screwed...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: debauche on November 30, 2008, 05:14:01 pm
Thought I would take a chance due to the rarity if it was real.. I knew I should have requested a BIN on Ebay.. The guy phoned, sounded ok.. but turned out to be a thief.. Also lesson learned is to claim thru Paypal that item never arrived.. its all in the wording.. if you claim it was used, when sold as new, they will not refund..even though they have a specific claim stating this on website.. but if you claim you never got what was sold, they will refund.. so technically I never got what was sold and should have claimed differently than I did..will know for next time.. if there ever is a next time.. almost 10 years on Ebay and only the second time I have been ripped off by someone with no morals such as this so its not like its often..

Anyways, don't feel sorry for me.. I took a chance knowing full well how it could end up.... its not like the shroud is an absolute piece of junk..its alright, but not NOS..defintely used.. and not better than what I already had.. But I just want to point out to others avoid these guys. I would post a link to the old auction so everyone could see the specific wording of it, but it has vanished from my watched auction page.. I think they blocked me so I could not buy anything else and neg them and the saved auction got erased along with that.. because it should still show up...

People post old auctions on KLOV when others ask for a price check.. how do they get those lists? Is it a website that you can do that on?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Havok on November 30, 2008, 05:29:10 pm
Don't you still have the email stating you won the auction? That will have the auction number in there...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: debauche on December 01, 2008, 09:54:04 am
The guy pulled it.. the first time I thought 'cool..can get some pics and negotiate on this without outside bidders'.. then he pulled it that second time after he never got back to me, then re-started the auction with the new pictures I had asked for.. When he pulled it that time he said he did so because I was first sorta thing. No.. no way to get back at the guy thru Ebay or Paypal other than starting another ID. Trying to contact the police down there to at least file something on them.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: sean-o-mac on February 27, 2009, 03:47:30 pm
I would make it a point not to deal with anyone on this forum whom doesn't have at least 2000 posts when it comes to trading or buying something.  Some one with that many post has established themselves here within the forums and their commitment would not in question. 

Other members could vouch for a high post member.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 27, 2009, 03:51:06 pm
That's ridiculous. There are many well-established, highly-respected individuals who have been here for a very long time, but have less than half that amount.

Not everyone posts like me....a guy that has only been here a year.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Hoopz on February 27, 2009, 03:54:11 pm
Not everyone posts like me....a guy that has only been here a year.
QFT!

 ;D

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 27, 2009, 03:55:58 pm
See, look at Hoopz. Only 1805, but look at his trade count and feedback.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ummon on February 27, 2009, 04:40:56 pm
Yeah. And ponyboy's been here for a spell, and he got reported. Just don't know till ya know.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: sean-o-mac on February 27, 2009, 04:45:07 pm
Not ridiculous.  What I am saying, these guys are complaining about dealing with people with less than a few dozen posts.  Personally, I wouldn't trade with any of the "bad traders" listed here simply because of their low posts.

If a single bad trade happens, odds are we're going to find out about it, so all it would take is a little research on the buyers part.

I would just feel way better with dealing with someone with some credit established than with a noob.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on February 27, 2009, 04:53:59 pm
Nothing wrong with that, I just found the 2000 posts part extreme.

I would never buy from anyone without checking them out first, and even that doesn't protect you.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: sean-o-mac on February 27, 2009, 05:20:54 pm
I just threw 2000 posts out there.  It would be personal preference of course.   ;D
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: ken_cinder on February 27, 2009, 05:27:39 pm
2000 posts? I would never make a trade here in that case. I've been an ADMIN on another forum for over 8 years, and I barely have over that many posts.

I already sold some sticks and buttons to Haruman, who got exactly what he paid for in a timely manner. Just bought 2 MVS carts from another user.

Post count amounts to NOTHING. Having 5000 posts doesn't mean you can be trusted any more than someone with 5 posts.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: sean-o-mac on February 27, 2009, 05:40:30 pm
2000 posts? I would never make a trade here in that case. I've been an ADMIN on another forum for over 8 years, and I barely have over that many posts.

I already sold some sticks and buttons to Haruman, who got exactly what he paid for in a timely manner. Just bought 2 MVS carts from another user.

Post count amounts to NOTHING. Having 5000 posts doesn't mean you can be trusted any more than someone with 5 posts.

Take it easy there man.  Read what I wrote.  I would trust someone like Hoopz with over 1,800 posts before trusting someone like KSKID with a little over 100 posts.  Especially with $1,200 of my money.  Thats a huge sum of money to send someone.

Just using Hoopz as an example, the odds of him or her stiffing someone with 6 trade count and 1,800 posts is pretty remote.  Thats all I am saying.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: metalSLUG666 on March 02, 2009, 11:00:56 pm
Resolved
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: eastbayarb on March 04, 2009, 01:41:22 am
The guy known as eastbayarb -or- ARB -or-  Antonio Botello sells bootleg MVS carts and refuses to give refunds.

BEWARE

I never refused to give you a refund. Show me an email that says I refuse to give you refund. Full refund given, and he can keep everything. But I still get a bad trader status. Go figure...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: metalSLUG666 on March 04, 2009, 02:04:56 pm
What eastbayarb says is true.  He was unable to respond to my emails and I left negative feedback in between time. 

He has fully refunded my money and I trust he was unaware that the Metal Slug 3 MVS cart was a bootleg.  I learned of the counterfeit cart only after it was opened.  I will continue to do business with him if the opportunity arises.  His shipping was prompt and he negotiates prices reasonably.

Sorry for the misunderstanding Antonio,

Craig
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: eastbayarb on March 04, 2009, 03:33:28 pm
Don't forget that I not only refunded his money, but I let him keep all the neo geo carts. so the buyer got everything free.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: metalSLUG666 on March 04, 2009, 08:54:15 pm
This is indeed true and I feel like a dick for beating him up on the forums.

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: eastbayarb on March 05, 2009, 02:43:07 am
This is indeed true and I feel like a dick for beating him up on the forums.



It just sucks because as long as the original post about me being a bad trader exists, anyone can search my name under bad trader and my name will come up.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: HaRuMaN on March 06, 2009, 11:53:36 am
... nvrmnd ...

no need to rehash old dirt
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: ToplessZ on June 07, 2009, 06:43:37 pm
Ebay seller: partitall


I bought a Golden Tee 2005 from this guy and it arrived non working.  I made every attempt to get the board working so that I didnt have to return the board but it was just dead.  I returned to board to the seller.  He has had the board for 2 weeks and didn't refund my money.  He then tells me that he doesnt know where the board is even though I have a delivery confirmation number that shows he has it.  Then finally he replies with this

"hey guy found box better put a claim in its all broken!this is not the way i gave it to you!is this why it didnt work because it was busted up? i would have put a claim in!!!! im sick of this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I have made every attempt to be patient and work with this guy and now he pulling some ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- like this!  I returned the board in a well packaged large box unbroken.  So I find it hard to beleive that it is all broken now.  I am a reputable seller and buyer and this is just another LIAR and Thief that is out there to get someone.  PLEASE ADVOID BUYING FROM THIS SELLER.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: FrizzleFried on June 16, 2009, 05:02:13 pm
I don't see a PARTITALL in the BYOAC member list??
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: ark_ader on June 16, 2009, 06:34:21 pm
edited
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Malenko on July 23, 2009, 08:44:23 am
I don't see a PARTITALL in the BYOAC member list??
he could just be warning all of us to avoid that seller.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on July 23, 2009, 09:43:34 am
I don't see a PARTITALL in the BYOAC member list??
he could just be warning all of us to avoid that seller.

That's how I saw it. I've never thought of this as a BYOAC-only list.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: ChadTower on September 28, 2009, 02:26:38 pm

Steve (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10978)

Long story short:  In March he sees my Berzerk resto thread and offers me an original bat stick for it.  I say cool and pay him via paypal on 3/27/2009.  He's in Australia so the shipping will take a while.  Never got a stick.  Haven't heard from him since 5/24/2009.

I hate posting these but he never provided a tracking number and I am out nearly a hundred bucks.  Bad trader.

 :banghead:
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on September 28, 2009, 02:30:25 pm
I hate to say I told ya so....

(Why does his location say "Santa Cruz, CA"?)
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Hoopz on September 28, 2009, 02:36:28 pm

Steve (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10978)

Long story short:  In March he sees my Berzerk resto thread and offers me an original bat stick for it.  I say cool and pay him via paypal on 3/27/2009.  He's in Australia so the shipping will take a while.  Never got a stick.  Haven't heard from him since 5/24/2009.

I hate posting these but he never provided a tracking number and I am out nearly a hundred bucks.  Bad trader.

 :banghead:
Don't forget to leave negative feedback on the SMF trader system too.  That helps other people see it and be aware of what happened.

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: ChadTower on September 28, 2009, 02:40:24 pm
I hate to say I told ya so....


Wait when did you say it was a bad idea?  I don't remember that.

I figured he had been a member for a couple of years so could probably be trusted.   ::)
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on September 28, 2009, 02:42:34 pm
I never said it was a bad idea, I just had a bad feeling every time you said, "It's not here yet." I would say, "Uh-oh, you got screwed" and you would continue to have confidence that it was coming. Then we'd talk a month later and I'd say, "So, how's that Berzerk stick?" and you'd say, "Still not here," and I'd go, "Uh-oh..."
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: ChadTower on September 28, 2009, 02:45:30 pm

Yeah, that's probably true.

Feedback left.  This is the first time I've been ripped off by a registered member of this forum.  Lots of deals, too. 
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Level42 on November 15, 2009, 03:50:37 pm
Watch out for that Steve guy from Australia that Chad mentions.

His former e-mail address was: atari.fan@iinet.net.au

I have no 100% proof, but it looks he also used to be registered under "Dexter" on www.dragonslairfans.com (http://www.dragonslairfans.com)
He has the same avatar there:

http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=profile;u=46 (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=profile;u=46)

Same first name, same age, same location, same avatar = too many "coincidences".

He seemed genuine enough on the Dragonslairfans forum, very active beginning 2009. I was looking for someone that could vectorize my Puckman CPO for reproduction. He took up the challenge and even also offered to do the Euro Joust marquee for me. There were some preview files posted and things looked to be very bright in the beginning.
So, since he was collecting all home version of DL and SA, I knew some Jaguar version for sale here and thought I would send them as an advanced "Thank You". Shipped them in May and he received the discs. Proof here:
http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=628.msg6517#msg6517 (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=628.msg6517#msg6517)

All in all it cost me about 60 Euro's to buy and ship those games which seemed fair as a compensation for his hours put into the artwork.

Next, comms become more rare. Promises, promises and more promises, but no files. The Joust "was ready" but I never received the ready file when I asked him to mail it.

Then in august he posts that he would like to know how much his collection of SA and DL home versions is worth.
http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=913.msg7887#msg7887 (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=913.msg7887#msg7887)
I'm appalled because I send him the Jaguar versions in may, and now in august he wants to sell the complete collection, before I even got the artwork ? So responds that he was "checking the water".....yeah, right.


Next comes up this thread, another guy (from Australia) also screwed by a certain Steve from Australia (ding-ding!):
http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1007.0 (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1007.0)

I heard some things. One moment he was moving house but he had left behind his PC and the files were on it some thousands miles away. Who moves house and doesn't move their PC ?
Next I hear he's recently been divorced, but from the OP of the last mentioned thread I hear through e-mail he has been divorced several years ago.

Anyway, it could be just a sad story, but just beware of him !

Here's a pic of the guy:
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll124/Atari_Fan/Steve/SDC10624copy.jpg)


He's hasn't been posting to the Dragonslairforum, but his last login was on October 01, 2009, 11:52:59 AM

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: kyomagi on May 26, 2012, 11:39:51 am
dirtcheaptrading from ebay.  Bought from him twice.  First time he sent the wrong leds for the push buttons.  Thought it was just a simple mistake.  This time he sent the wrong button!  I asked for blue and green in two different emails, he sends me red and green.  This is not baseball, but two strikes and you're out
Title: Seller made things right
Post by: nagamitsu on September 10, 2013, 12:52:48 pm
Pulling my post info, as much as this has been ongoing for almost two months, seller has made things right.

Tim
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: digitalmonkeyman on May 06, 2014, 02:37:59 am
Randy at Groovy Game Gear stole my money.  Plain and simple.

I ordered a part and it was returned to Randy because of a bad address.
He has since kept my money and refuses to reply to my numerous emails.
Even a credit card charge back has not motivated him to respond.

The transaction was December 23, 2013, plenty of time for Randy to step up.

I hate to throw a member like Randy under the bus, but he has stolen from me, and his lack of response is very unprofessional.

I would recommend steering clear of him and his site.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: RandyT on May 06, 2014, 01:26:33 pm
Randy at Groovy Game Gear stole my money.  Plain and simple.

I ordered a part and it was returned to Randy because of a bad address.
He has since kept my money and refuses to reply to my numerous emails.
Even a credit card charge back has not motivated him to respond.

The transaction was December 23, 2013, plenty of time for Randy to step up.

I hate to throw a member like Randy under the bus, but he has stolen from me, and his lack of response is very unprofessional.

I would recommend steering clear of him and his site.

I don't even know who you are or what the situation is.  If a chargeback was issued, and we did not dispute it, then the matter should be resolved, and I'm not sure how you are out any money.  If that is the case, we ended up losing the shipping fees due to a customer provided improper address

All of that being said, I would be more than happy to be given the opportunity to investigate the situation and make it right.  But I need to know what the actual situation is before I can do so.  If for some reason it is a matter of your emails not making it to me (which is entirely possible, given the number of spam blockers in use on the internet now), then PM me here and we will take care of it.  We do not take money from people.  It's not who we are.

RandyT
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Nephasth on May 06, 2014, 01:40:22 pm
Careful digitalmonkeyman, the last member who vocalized his displeasure with GGG wound up with a temporary ban...
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: RandyT on May 06, 2014, 02:05:42 pm
Careful digitalmonkeyman, the last member who vocalized his displeasure with GGG wound up with a temporary ban...

No need for any of that.  If it's a simple misunderstanding or communication breakdown, it's easily taken care of.  But without information as how to proceed, it's hard to know what happened.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Nephasth on May 06, 2014, 02:10:43 pm
Just giving the man a heads up to tread lightly publicly while working to resolve the issue. :cheers:
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: will187 on May 12, 2014, 08:44:22 am
Randy at Groovy Game Gear stole my money.  Plain and simple.

I ordered a part and it was returned to Randy because of a bad address.
He has since kept my money and refuses to reply to my numerous emails.
Even a credit card charge back has not motivated him to respond.

The transaction was December 23, 2013, plenty of time for Randy to step up.

I hate to throw a member like Randy under the bus, but he has stolen from me, and his lack of response is very unprofessional.

I would recommend steering clear of him and his site.

I'm a member of another forum and we caught wind of the GGG drama. I had the same problem you had. These guys have gone south on us. Ladies and Gents, stay away from them.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: pbj on May 12, 2014, 10:09:05 am
Randy at Groovy Game Gear stole my money.  Plain and simple.

I ordered a part and it was returned to Randy because of a bad address.
He has since kept my money and refuses to reply to my numerous emails.
Even a credit card charge back has not motivated him to respond.

The transaction was December 23, 2013, plenty of time for Randy to step up.

I hate to throw a member like Randy under the bus, but he has stolen from me, and his lack of response is very unprofessional.

I would recommend steering clear of him and his site.

I'm a member of another forum and we caught wind of the GGG drama. I had the same problem you had. These guys have gone south on us. Ladies and Gents, stay away from them.


Your issue is that you don't know your own address and got your money refunded? 


 :applaud:

Go run back to your other forum. 


Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: yotsuya on May 12, 2014, 10:23:03 am
I'm a member of another forum and we caught wind of the GGG drama. I had the same problem you had. These guys have gone south on us. Ladies and Gents, stay away from them.

I'm a member of other forums as well, and I haven't had any problems with multiple orders from GGG. Ladies and Gents, ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- happens. I have a feeling if the OP had entered the correct address on the order, there would not have been an issue. I don't know what your problem was. Be specific?
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on May 12, 2014, 10:25:27 am
I've never had a single problem with any of my Groovy Game Gear orders.  Any questions or concerns were addressed quickly by RandyT.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Le Chuck on May 12, 2014, 10:28:06 am
Ordered from GGG on Tuesday.  Package arrived on Saturday.  Order was complete.  Packing was very good.  Communication with Randy is always prompt. 
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: yotsuya on May 12, 2014, 10:34:54 am
I've never had a single problem with any of my Groovy Game Gear orders.  Any questions or concerns were addressed quickly by RandyT.

Quit being a fanboy.

Ordered from GGG on Tuesday.  Package arrived on Saturday.  Order was complete.  Packing was very good.  Communication with Randy is always prompt. 


Quit being a fanboy!

I'm a member of other forums as well, and I haven't had any problems with multiple orders from GGG. Ladies and Gents, ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- happens. I have a feeling if the OP had entered the correct address on the order, there would not have been an issue. I don't know what your problem was. Be specific?

QUIT BEING A FANBOY!




BTW, I'm not a fanboy of any vendors. I can only speak to my experiences. I've only ever had issues with one regular seller here, and even then, I didn't feel it necessary to call him out because it was a specific incident, and not a case where I thought he was willfully ripping people off and I needed to save everyone's money. Over time, I've even got past my issue with him and have conducted other transactions without complains. Again, ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- happens. Get over it.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: RandyT on May 12, 2014, 01:26:19 pm
I'm a member of another forum and we caught wind of the GGG drama. I had the same problem you had. These guys have gone south on us. Ladies and Gents, stay away from them.

Insanity.   Groovy Game Gear has over 15000 happy customers, with more every day, and has shipped over 25,000 orders in our 12+ years doing this.  Of those, we have 3 small orders here that are the equivalent of a "dead letter" box at the post office.  They are the result of people providing us with bad contact info, coupled with improper addresses, or an international order where duties are required from the addressee and the item was never picked up.  We make several attempts to contact the individuals, and when this results in no response, there's little we can do but wait for those individuals to reach out to us again.  Everyone else in a similar situation has, and we take care of the situation quickly and appropriately.  But three have not.  Those orders are still sitting here, in the same packaging in which they were returned.  The contents were never returned to stock, because we do not own them.  They are waiting to be claimed.

Further, about a week ago, I again attempted to contact whom I thought the first individual might be, with the email address provided with his order to see if he was one of these, as well as indicating here that he should contact me via PM on this forum.  As of today, no response whatsoever, neither in email or in the form of a PM. 

After time passes, and the items go unclaimed, it is not possible for us to credit the accounts of those individuals, as we do not retain the credit card information for security reasons.  As we only accept credit card for payment, the individual always has recourse in a situation like this, they need only to exercise it.  But it is never necessary to have to go this route with us.  In the case of the three "ghosts" I have here, I really wish those individuals would have.  It vexes me every time I see them.

If anyone thinks they might be one of those, CONTACT ME, because I can't seem to contact YOU.  If you don't, my hands are unfortunately tied.

RandyT
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Malenko on May 12, 2014, 01:29:58 pm
I'm a member of another forum and we caught wind of the GGG drama. I had the same problem you had. These guys have gone south on us. Ladies and Gents, stay away from them.

Who are you , what board you post from, what did you order, when this happened, how much money did you lose (and if you ever got a refund),etc,etc
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: Ginsu Victim on May 12, 2014, 03:56:02 pm
I'm a member of another forum and we caught wind of the GGG drama. I had the same problem you had. These guys have gone south on us. Ladies and Gents, stay away from them.
Who are you , what board you post from, what did you order, when this happened, how much money did you lose (and if you ever got a refund),etc,etc
All questions I also had.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: PL1 on May 12, 2014, 08:50:32 pm
I'm a member of another forum and we caught wind of the GGG drama. I had the same problem you had. These guys have gone south on us. Ladies and Gents, stay away from them.
Who are you , what board you post from, what did you order, when this happened, how much money did you lose (and if you ever got a refund),etc,etc
All questions I also had.
+1

Details or it didn't happen.
IF there is any substance to those accusations, making them without providing any relevant supporting details does not help your case.

Sorry, I forgot -- sock puppets don't need proof, do they?   :P   (10 minutes logged in, all time spent in B/S/T)

For poetic justice, check the ad on the screencap below.   :lol

Exit question: Is his choice of username a threat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/187_%28murder%29)?


Scott
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: yotsuya on May 12, 2014, 10:17:00 pm
Btw, RandyT is technically a vendor, not a trader. I'm not sure these complaints belong in this thread. This thread would be more like I bought a PCB from member PL1, and he took my money and sent me a fake tracking number (which didn't happen, btw). Those are bad "traders".
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: saint on October 06, 2014, 11:34:37 am
Careful digitalmonkeyman, the last member who vocalized his displeasure with GGG wound up with a temporary ban...

No one is banned for expressing their opinion of a vendor good, bad, or indifferent. Bans here are few and only for violating the rules. Airing a dispute with a vendor for the benefit of other potential customers is not a violation of the rules.
Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: pbj on October 06, 2014, 03:34:01 pm
No one is banned for expressing their opinion of a vendor good, bad, or indifferent. Bans here are few and only for violating the rules. Airing a dispute with a vendor for the benefit of other potential customers is not a violation of the rules.

While I agree that I've never been banned for a vendor opinion, I've had several vendor experience posts deleted without explanation.  Particularly when they've involved Ultimarc. 

Perhaps you weren't the one doing it, but it became so routine that BYOAC members can fend for themselves, so far as I'm concerned.
 

Title: Re: Bad Traders List - Please keep it clean- thanks-
Post by: midd on October 26, 2022, 03:52:37 pm
Be aware of henry_j66.  He's fairly new here.  Registered on October 14.  Has made only one post so far, a reply to my post of my Star Wars yoke.  I told him I had it already but was looking for a frame for my LCD marquee screen.  Said he could do it for $100 shipped.  So far so good... B

ut then the red flags started.  First he asks me how I would like to pay.  I tell him I can do paypal, venmo Apple Cash, whichever.  Says he preferred paypal because that's all he had , but wanted friends and family (another red flag). I try to ease my suspicions and thats when I see he's new to the forums and his only post is a reply to my post.  So I ask if he's on any other arcade forums or facebook groups. nope/ (another red flag).  The paypal address is some beatrice@outlook.com (that's not the full address) and he claimed it was his grandaughters because as an old man he doesn't have paypal or venmo. Yet he knows about friend and family? Then sent me three emails asking if I had sent the money because he needed to inform his grand daughter.  (yep, another red flag). 

SO I make a last ditch effort, I ask to pay as good and services and once I receive the frame, I'll paypal him to cover the fee he would be charged.  Nope according to him I should take him for his word.   

Oh well...


Just found this after doing a quick search... MIGHT be a coincidence, but I doubt it...https://forums.aaca.org/topic/381042-red-alert-nip-a-scammer-in-the-bud/