The NEW Build Your Own Arcade Controls
Software Support => GroovyMAME => Topic started by: FrizzleFried on May 25, 2019, 09:31:37 pm
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OK...well, I just wasted a good 5-6 hours trying every which way to get CRT Emudriver to work with my new Ryzen 2200g rig. According to the notes, it is supposed to be compatible but for the life of me I can NOT get at 15hkz signal out of the damn video card... period. I have followed the "guide" from front to back (both guides actually just in case I was supposed to follow the "old" version) twice to no avail. I can NEVER get any 15khz modes to show up and I can NEVER get it to kick my PC monitor out of range by kicking to 15khz.
I am at a loss. I've tried uninstalling and re installing Radeon drivers... tried without ANY Radeon drivers... tried to reinstall the CRT Emudriver multiple times... all for nothing. Same result. 30khz signal.
I am now here... asking for help... HELP....
Any suggestions? This should not be this hard...
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Only 6 hours??? :)
Let me know if you get composite sync to work. lol
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Something just isn't working. The latest update says it supports Ryzen 3 2200g... which is what I am running... but there is NOTHING I can do to get the system to switch to even 640x480i ... nothing.
While the screen does go black... it always comes back... never to drop to 15khz.
>sigh<
I think I am stuck with getting an ArcadeVGA (when they are available)...
:(
I even tried Soft15khz... not compatible with the APU (unsurprisingly).
Any other suggestions? Any other ways to get 15khz?
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Well... the local Best Buy has a R5 200 card for $39... I'm going to pick that bad boy up (also on the compatibility list) just for shits and giggles. I've been watching some install vids and this should be as easy as installing the drivers and rebooting just to get a simple 15khz signal... that's not happening so I need to start there I think?
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According to the notes, it is supposed to be compatible but for the life of me I can NOT get at 15hkz signal out of the damn video card... period.
From the Geedorah website (http://geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?id=295):
“Be aware that newer GPUs don't have analog outputs. You can get 15 kHz support out of their HDMI ports, by means of a HDMI to VGA active adapter. However, video modes using low dotclocks will probably not work. Using super resolutions is the recommended solution.”
The last AMD card to support an analog output (by means of DVI-I) was the R9. Anything newer and you will need a digital to analog converter, which is problematic in that it can introduce lag.....it would be better and easier to use an older graphics card.
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According to the notes, it is supposed to be compatible but for the life of me I can NOT get at 15hkz signal out of the damn video card... period.
From the Geedorah website (http://geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?id=295):
“Be aware that newer GPUs don't have analog outputs. You can get 15 kHz support out of their HDMI ports, by means of a HDMI to VGA active adapter. However, video modes using low dotclocks will probably not work. Using super resolutions is the recommended solution.”
The last AMD card to support an analog output (by means of DVI-I) was the R9. Anything newer and you will need a digital to analog converter, which is problematic in that it can introduce lag.....it would be better and easier to use an older graphics card.
So the VGA port that is on the motherboard that I am using is not an analog port?
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So the VGA port that is on the motherboard that I am using is not an analog port?
It's analog but it's not one of the gpu's native outputs. The mother board's manufacturer adds its own DAC to the chipset so it converts one of the DP outputs to VGA. But from the gpu/drivers point of view it's still a DP output, so EDID emulation is not supported on it.
Just like Arroyo said, you can still use the HDMI output to get 15 kHz, but you need to add a separate HDMI-VGA active converter.
Hopefully when I have some time I'll build one of these: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159988.0.html
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So the VGA port that is on the motherboard that I am using is not an analog port?
It's analog but it's not one of the gpu's native outputs. The mother board's manufacturer adds its own DAC to the chipset so it converts one of the DP outputs to VGA. But from the gpu/drivers point of view it's still a DP output, so EDID emulation is not supported on it.
Just like Arroyo said, you can still use the HDMI output to get 15 kHz, but you need to add a separate HDMI-VGA active converter.
Hopefully when I have some time I'll build one of these: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,159988.0.html
Hmmm... so buying a R5 200 ... which also includes a VGA port... isn't going to help. I guess just buying a HDMI to VGA converter is the way to go? ...and thank you for the info!!
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Anything newer and you will need a digital to analog converter, which is problematic in that it can introduce lag.....it would be better and easier to use an older graphics card.
Lag? No. It's a direct conversion.
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Hmmm... so buying a R5 200 ... which also includes a VGA port... isn't going to help. I guess just buying a HDMI to VGA converter is the way to go? ...and thank you for the info!!
The R5 200 does include the DAC in it, because it's old. New GPUs don't include it.
You can get the R5 200 if you want the "easy" experience.
The HDMI-VGA introduces a bit more complexity.
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Anything newer and you will need a digital to analog converter, which is problematic in that it can introduce lag.....it would be better and easier to use an older graphics card.
Lag? No. It's a direct conversion.
Really, that interesting, I thought any sampling or converting of signals would not inherently be as fast? Good to know
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Hmmm... so buying a R5 200 ... which also includes a VGA port... isn't going to help. I guess just buying a HDMI to VGA converter is the way to go? ...and thank you for the info!!
The R5 200 does include the DAC in it, because it's old. New GPUs don't include it.
You can get the R5 200 if you want the "easy" experience.
The HDMI-VGA introduces a bit more complexity.
Am I going to notice any frame rate drop from one solution to the other? I'd take complexity/speed over ease/slower ... though if speed is the same, obviously "easy" is desirable. A HDMI to VGA converter is going to cost me $26... a new video card $39... $13.00 for ease is a no-brainer.
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I'd get both.
Anyway, the R5 won't cause any frame drops.
For me the APU idea is cool and makes for a cleaner setup.
You can use the experience and knowledge you achieve with the R5 to attempt the 2200G setup later.
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Well, it's a R5 220 ... and the good news is that I get an image on the CRT now. The bad news is that it's still split.
With this card installed it comes up as a Radeon HD6570. CRTEmudriver installs fine... and says it's finished... then I load VMMaker and...
It says NO COMPATIBLE DRIVER and many options are grayed out.
:(
Is this not a compatible card???
Also... with regular Radeon drivers installed it works fine. With CRTEmudriver installed it is very buggy and locks up the system, etc...
>argh<
And of course I didn't get the HD converter.
>argh!<
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Please make sure to download the correct version of CRT Emudriver (correct for your card).
EDIT: Well, actually make sure it's the latest one, since you also have a 2200G onboard, different versions can coexist so you need one that supports both simultaneously, the 2200G and the R5.
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Please make sure to download the correct version of CRT Emudriver (correct for your card).
EDIT: Well, actually make sure it's the latest one, since you also have a 2200G onboard, different versions can coexist so you need one that supports both simultaneously, the 2200G and the R5.
I have tried both the latest (original version I tried) as well as 16.4 I think it is which is for the HD 6000 series and the latter is more stable (though not 100% stable) and... unfortunately... I still can NOT get a 15KHZ signal out of the damn thing.
I've gotten as far as it saying I have two screens... and I can see one screen on the PC monitor but if I disconnect and connect the arcade monitor... then reboot... no love. I get the typical double/triping of the screen that would be expected ...
I have YET to manage to experience 15khz no matter which version I've tried.
Any other suggestions?? I mean this SHOULD be easy... right? I mean, I've not even tried to CHANGE resolutions... yet.
FWIW... the latest version wouldn't work at all... though I will go back to trying it again. What else can I do at this point?
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OK... this is going back... and I'm getting the VGA to HDMI cable. This keep crashing my system... I've tried both drivers individually both drivers together... tried installing before the radeon drivers after... tried it all. It's just not working.
:(
MAN I'd almost forgotten the frustration involved in dealing with a PC based MAME setup.
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Mate,
Leave it for some days. When you get to that point it's better to have a rest.
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I'm a bit of a masochist it seems.
I now possess a HDMI to VGA cable.
Any specific instruction would be helpful... otherwise I am going to just dive in.
:D
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That was fast.
So what works for me is to enable EDID emulation on the HDMI output, then plug the HDMI->VGA adapter. Then create super resolutions with VMMaker (normal resolutions probably won't work). All this with latest drivers.
Good luck.
EDIT: It may happen 640x480i doesn't work, but go on and try the super resolutions.
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OK... VGA is showing on HDMI as normal...
640x480 is at 30khz.
Every other resolution I attempt (320x240 for exampl) I now get my SYNC light on my JPAC flashing on and off and the screen flashing a rather "blank" looking "static" area...
I'm still JUST trying to get ANY 15khz signal at this point. ANY resolution. ANYthing...
:(
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Focus on providing useful information, e.g. screenshots of VMMaker, etc.
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OK... more bad news. My JPAC will not sync with the HDMI to VGA converter. It goes in to a continuous flashing loop...the LED attempts to sync then resets and mix and repeat... even when trying to display 640x480 VGA (which produced the doubled screen before) now just a repeating flash. It works fine with an LCD, but it appares it isn't going to work with an arcade monitor...
...and of course I returned the card.
AND to make it all worse ... at this point... I can't cleanly uninstall the darned CRT Emudriver... it gets half way then errors out... AND when I did manage to get the new driver, the older version I installed with the other video card was still in there but won't let me uninstall saying I have no compatible card.
:(
At this point the whole freakin' thing appears to be hosed.
ANY suggestion on how to completely remove BOTH CRT Emudrivers (it appears both versions are on there) It's not like they appear in the REMOVE PROGRAMS list...
Any program you suggest to do such a thing?
I think we need to start there. Then ... the HDMI port doesn't appear to be a viable option for the 2200G. Are you aware of anyone who has actually successfully used theirs or am I beta testing here?
I'm already a few hundred bucks in to this project... no going back. What do I need to do/buy to get a 15khz signal I suppose is the ultimate question. I've tried both suggested courses of action thus far and have failed.
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I told you, you need a rest. I've been there before. You're not in the proper psychollogical state to face this task.
You're one of the fist users attempting the APU path, you have no previous experience with the emudriver, you're tired, at this point you hate the software, please take a rest and try back in a few days, and then post a damned screenshot of each step, let us know when you get stuck, the exact screen, keep your posts as free of emotions as possible, etc.
Cheers.
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I told you, you need a rest. I've been there before. You're not in the proper psychollogical state to face this task.
You're one of the fist users attempting the APU path, you have no previous experience with the emudriver, you're tired, at this point you hate the software, please take a rest and try back in a few days, and then post a damned screenshot of each step, let us know when you get stuck, the exact screen, keep your posts as free of emotions as possible, etc.
Cheers.
I am going to go back and pick that card up. Thus far, that's the closest I've gotten. I can't imagine a world where this HDMI to VGA converter will work if it wont' sync even in 640x480 VGA mode with the double screen... that said, I'll likely keep it for a bit. I have 14 days to return it.
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The thing is, from my side nothing is clear. The information you provide has a lot of noise but very little useful data I can use to help you. Please next time start from scratch with a freshly installed Windows.
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The thing is, from my side nothing is clear. The information you provide has a lot of noise but very little useful data I can use to help you. Please next time start from scratch with a freshly installed Windows.
I did...
...and I am now back to almost stock Windows... Windows driver...
I'm going to document each step.
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BTW... are there any known BIOS settings that can potentially interfere with CRT Emudriver? If so... which ones and should they be disabled or enabled?
I did go back and get that video card again. That was the closest I've come. I still have the HDMI to VGA cable but I suspect that, at least that one particular cable brand isn't compatible with my older JPAC.
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I imagine you were having trouble because of the installation of drivers on top of each other. I went through that when first attempting this as well. If possible don’t allow the AMD drivers to install, use the generic ones that Windows assigns. If you install a driver and it doesn’t work then “roll back” the driver to the generic one before attempting the new drivers. This will help reduce errors.
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If anything, I am persistent.
A few things I learned this evening... (1) Do not continue to mess with things until you set up a QUICK RES function to get you back to where you can see things. (2) This Ryzen 2200G does NOT much care for this R5 220 video card. How about the fact that it's so unstable thus far that it's crashed/locked up multiple times... in the BIOS! NOW, you can't blame a windows setting for that. It's very very strange indeed.
I am considering perhaps swapping the Ryzen 2200G with another CPU if I can't get things stable.
GOOD NEWS though... I've actually gotten to see 15khz through my arcade monitor. I know it works now. HOWEVER... for the life of me I can't seem to get 640x480i to work... and considering most of my attract mode front end layouts are at 640x480 that's pretty important. Plus, at that resolution I can make my way around windows via the arcade monitor.
I am sure I can edit it somewhere to make it that windows is always at 640x480i ?
Thanks for the help thus far.
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You have a deadly combination of factors in there. Someone like me would manage to get it working with some effort (for sure), but if it's the first time you mess with CRT Emudriver your hardware choice should have been a simpler one. Specially if you're running an unstable setup, that should be sorted first.
The complication with the APU is that because it's an APU, you need some video drivers to get the system running to begin with, so when you drop in a discrete AMD card that needs its own drivers, both must not conflict.
If you start adding drivers over drivers you're doomed. Each Emudriver needs to be uninstalled using its own installer/uninstaller "Setup" program. You can't exchange them. It's pretty simple when you know the process, but it's a sure path to suicide if you start installing over installation over installation frenetically.
You can always is the Hardware Manager to get rid of drivers by right clicking on the particular device. Sometimes you need several iterations.
Setting up 15 kHz is often complicated for things external to CRT Emudriver, like being able to navigate blindly etc., experience helps solving most situations but sometimes these things are the real obstacle more than anything. Even the contortions one has to adopt to get to the back of the cabinet can waste your patience.
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I am attempting to handle this one step at a time. My next step is getting a stable "desktop" to work with with my arcade monitor.... which is what I am attempting to do.
Any suggestion on how to force 640x480 interlaced? Every time I attempt to use 640x480 its progressive. Is that the largest interlaced resolution a Wells Gardner K7000 will display? Maybe 640x480 is hard coded or something in to it?
It is very strange... almost as if when there is no driver (before windows loads) ... it's very unstable. Trying to get in to SAFE MODE is an exercise like none other... crashing at least 80% of the time... but once windows loads it seems fine... but I've not done a ton while in windows due primarily to the fact that I can't get 640x480 going and, well, I managed to find myself in a mode that both my PC LCD and arcade CRT wouldn't support... and it took a while to get back out of it.
EDIT: BTW ... FWIW, while I am new with CRT Emudriver... I've been poking around on PC's, MAME, and Arcade monitors (and dedicated arcade machines) for over a dozen years (well, PC's since my ole Commodore 64 days). While I admit I don't know "it all" ... I am firmly confident that given enough time and stress... I could find it out! ;)
I'm a very "hands-on" kind of guy. ...and while my frustrations get the better of me sometimes, I rarely give up.
My apologies if my frustrations where offending at all. That wasn't the intent. To be 100% honest, I WAS a little pissy in general. See... I came in here to ask what a good MAME rig would be to build from scratch and when I got just about zero "specific" input, I decided to do a little research. Everyone suggested going with Groovymame + CRT Emudriver. I did a little looking back and forth between the CRT Emudriver page and my Amazon account and determined the best bang for the buck would be this 2200g system. So I pulled the trigger based on the fact the CRT Emudriver "supports" the 2200g (based on the official list of supported parts)... and here we are.
I was assuming at the time this APU had been used before and was actually a known working part with the software. It seems that isn't the case exactly... that I am treading on some unexplored territory. That's OK... now that I know this... I have no problem with that and I'm happy to help out where I can by doing my best to get this damn thing to work properly... but yea, I "WAS" hoping to build a nice MAME rig for about $300.00 that could handle anything ... and do it easily. Welp... at leas I have two of the three checked thus far... but that's OK... I like a challenge...
So I am back to needing to know how to get do 640x480i. Today is Memorial Day I am spending a lot of time with the family rather than out in the garagecade working on this project.... but I plan to poke my head out there from time to time when I can. BEFORE I do anything else... I need to setup a QUICKRES application to hotkey a usable resolution so I don't get locked out of the damn system again.
Any / all other tips/tricks/suggestions are always welcome.
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Before trying to set up CRT_Emudriver, I would install Windows normally, along with any required motherboard/chipset drivers and then run some stress tests to make sure your hardware set-up is stable. Windows shouldn't crash while going in to safe mode.
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640x480i is automatically set once you enable 15kHz EDID emulation on a certain output. It will stick at 640x480i unless you switch to another mode manually.
I'm using CRT Emudriver here on a Vega 56 so I know it works on your hardware (99% sure, if you prefer).
By now I'd focus on seeing why your system crashes. RAM maybe? Make sure you have a rock solid system before messing with hacked drivers.
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640x480i is automatically set once you enable 15kHz EDID emulation on a certain output. It will stick at 640x480i unless you switch to another mode manually.
I'm using CRT Emudriver here on a Vega 56 so I know it works on your hardware (99% sure, if you prefer).
By now I'd focus on seeing why your system crashes. RAM maybe? Make sure you have a rock solid system before messing with hacked drivers.
I am using the R5 220 video card... not the on board GPU. My cabinet would simply not sync using the HDMI to VGA converter... it kept attempting to sync and then not syncing...
If you have another idea on how I could use the onboard GPU, I'd much rather do so as the system is VERY stable without this video card installed.
Another HDMI to VG converter MAY work, but I used the only one available at the local Best Buy store... an Insignia model... and I'm not about to play games "checking" to see if multiple units will work. I don't have the money to do that especially.
The system only crashes with the video card installed... and only when NOT in windows (thus far). I suspect there is some sort of conflict ... perhaps even as deep as the BIOS levels...
If there was only some way I could avoid using this video card... if the damn on-board VGA output would work... all would be well... but...
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BTW... just for the heck of it I just checked the HDMI to VGA converter using the video card rather than the on-board video... same result... flashing "sync" LED and no sync happening. It's plainly obvious this HDMI to VGA converter is incompatible with the JPAC I have...
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FWIW... switching to EDID manually does not change my system to interlaced mode... but it DOES give me many other modes to choose from and when I choose them it switches to those 15khz modes... but none are 640x480i ... and as soon as I select 640x480 (the one available) it kicks back to 640x480p...
...it seems I remember it REJECTING 640x480 (as well as a few other modes) when I installed the modes. I'll keep playing around.... which give me more opportunity to test stability. I really am bummed that I am being forced to use this additional video card to be 100% honest. It's SOOOO much slower (in PC gaming) than the on board video (about 25-30% the speed)... plus the damn instability issues that only appear when I have it installed.
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BTW... just for the heck of it I just checked the HDMI to VGA converter using the video card rather than the on-board video... same result... flashing "sync" LED and no sync happening. It's plainly obvious this HDMI to VGA converter is incompatible with the JPAC I have...
Your JPAC knows nothing about HDMI converters, it just grabs an incoming signal and filters it. And we can do whatever we want with that signal so the JPAC won't notice. Probably you're outputting default vesa modes and your JPAC can't handle those. This doesn't mean it won't work once you start outputting the correct signal. Specifically, you need to enable EDID emulation over the HDMI output of the card you're using (you may even try this with the R5).
You may be right and that HDMI converter be crap after all. I've just tested a couple of them, but I'd say most of them must use the same chip.
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FWIW... switching to EDID manually does not change my system to interlaced mode... but it DOES give me many other modes to choose from and when I choose them it switches to those 15khz modes... but none are 640x480i ... and as soon as I select 640x480 (the one available) it kicks back to 640x480p...
...it seems I remember it REJECTING 640x480 (as well as a few other modes) when I installed the modes. I'll keep playing around.... which give me more opportunity to test stability. I really am bummed that I am being forced to use this additional video card to be 100% honest. It's SOOOO much slower (in PC gaming) than the on board video (about 25-30% the speed)... plus the damn instability issues that only appear when I have it installed.
The goal is to remove the R5.
Rejecting 640x480i sounds like you weren't actually using the patched driver, or you were trying to installed modes on an unsupported output (DP).
Please, for your next post, include a snapshot of the VMMaker showing the issue.
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FWIW... switching to EDID manually does not change my system to interlaced mode... but it DOES give me many other modes to choose from and when I choose them it switches to those 15khz modes... but none are 640x480i ... and as soon as I select 640x480 (the one available) it kicks back to 640x480p...
...it seems I remember it REJECTING 640x480 (as well as a few other modes) when I installed the modes. I'll keep playing around.... which give me more opportunity to test stability. I really am bummed that I am being forced to use this additional video card to be 100% honest. It's SOOOO much slower (in PC gaming) than the on board video (about 25-30% the speed)... plus the damn instability issues that only appear when I have it installed.
The goal is to remove the R5.
Rejecting 640x480i sounds like you weren't actually using the patched driver, or you were trying to installed modes on an unsupported output (DP).
Please, for your next post, include a snapshot of the VMMaker showing the issue.
Then how was I able to run at 320x240 on my arcade monitor?
OK... if the goal is to remove the R5, what am I doing trying to get it to work? The ONLY way, according to you, for this to work with the on-board video is via the HDMI output.
Unfortunately, the HDMI to VGA converter I have isn't going to work. I just tried to use my laptop to display 640x480p (doubled) on the arcade monitor and I get the very same "repeating" sync issue.
What exactly would you suggest my next plan of action is? I ask because right now, the furthest along I have gotten is WITH the R5 installed... i have actual 15khz video ... just not 640x480i ... if I switch to 320x240 it switches to 15khz and it looks beautiful on my arcade monitor. I just need 640x480i...
Thus far as well I have NOT crashed while I have been in windows ... and with the R5 installed...
UNFORTUNATELY however... I just discovered the the QUICKRES program I was hoping I could use as a "failsafe" to make sure the system drops back to a usable resolution ... it doesn't seem to work for me.
Any suggestions on how i can program a hotkey to MAKE SURE I can get back to 640x480p in the case of a problem?
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BTW... I am not sure what you want me to take a picture of. I am not having an issue with VMM... how do I take a photo of it "not working" at 640x480i?
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Then how was I able to run at 320x240 on my arcade monitor?
You see? You hadn't mentioned that before. Were I supposed to guess that?
What exactly would you suggest my next plan of action is?
Normal troubleshooting is not going to work for you, since you want to solve it on your own just trying to grab random information bits from me. I'm simply not going to engage in that kind of thing.
If you want me to help you I want to see exactly what's going on in your system. Then I'll ask you the questions. That's how it works.
Cheers.
PD: Check your PM
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Then how was I able to run at 320x240 on my arcade monitor?
You see? You hadn't mentioned that before. Were I supposed to guess that?
See response #29 above... "GOOD NEWS though... I've actually gotten to see 15khz through my arcade monitor. I know it works now. HOWEVER... for the life of me I can't seem to get 640x480i to work..."
What exactly would you suggest my next plan of action is?
Normal troubleshooting is not going to work for you, since you want to solve it on your own just trying to grab random information bits from me. I'm simply not going to engage in that kind of thing.
If you want me to help you I want to see exactly what's going on in your system. Then I'll ask you the questions. That's how it works.
Cheers.
PD: Check your PM
I'll figure things out on my own since you seem to miss VITAL pieces of info then get frustrated at me when you do so...
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BTW... I was coming in to say I figured out how to get to 640x480i... but I digress...
Thanks for the help provided thus far.
Now to go on a bike ride with my wife and boy...
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You never mentioned 320x240. You said a "generic" 15 kHz, THAT makes a HUGE difference for me.
I'll figure things out on my own since you seem to miss VITAL pieces of info then get frustrated at me when you do so...
It gets difficult to mine for relevant info inside your overly emotional posts.
Have a nice time out with family.
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At this point I would not add the 2200G to the list of "supported" GPU/APUs... as it's not from my best efforts. The public would be best served to know that the 2200G is problematic at best at this point.
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Welp... I was able to play a few games of Blitz... at least...
...but since then, nothing but stability issues. Bottom line is that this APU doesn't like this video card. If I remove the video card, the system runs VERY stable. As soon as I add the video card it makes things go crazy.
The way I see it is that at this point my best option would be to send the APU back to Amazon and pick up a Ryzen CPU to put in it's place... something like a Ryzen 3 1200 or something similarly priced to the 2200g...
Would you suggest any other plan of action or, like myself, do you feel that I'm to that point?
EDIT: I decided it's time to stop screwing around... I picked up a Ryzen 3 1300X and another HDMI to VGA converter. I figure I'll give the 2nd HDMI to VGA converter a go first... if that doesn't work, out goes the APU and in comes the good ole CPU... HOPEFULLY eliminating the conflicts going on at this point... I hope.
LORD this has been a bit of a bumpy ride thus far.
:D
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While you're still with the 2200G in (R5 out), I'd need to see a picture of VMMaker's tab where the EDID emulation options are, specifically the dropdown menu with the outputs listed.
You should be able to enable EDID emulation on an HDMI output from there.
Once you have EDID emulation enabled, go to the user modes menu and select user_modes_super.ini for your mode list. Then exit setup and press Generate Modes and Install Modes. I'd need a second screenshot or text copy of VMMaker's console at that point.
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Might be worth noting that running a version of VNC (such as www.tightvnc.com) on a machine while setting up the CRTEmudriver is super helpful because when you do manage to get it displaying in a mode that's not correct for a monitor you can still connect to the machine remotely and see the display to make adjustments.
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While you're still with the 2200G in (R5 out), I'd need to see a picture of VMMaker's tab where the EDID emulation options are, specifically the dropdown menu with the outputs listed.
You should be able to enable EDID emulation on an HDMI output from there.
Once you have EDID emulation enabled, go to the user modes menu and select user_modes_super.ini for your mode list. Then exit setup and press Generate Modes and Install Modes. I'd need a second screenshot or text copy of VMMaker's console at that point.
I will be getting the HDMI to VGA converter tomorrow... and then the CPU the following day. I will use the Guru3D driver remover program to remove the display drivers for the R5. Power down. Move the monitor over to the HDMI to VGA plugged in to the motherboard HDMI output... re-power which should bring me to the Windows installed drivers... at which point I will install the latest version of the CRT Emudriver ... then I will re-boot (just in case) and then hit up VMMAKER. Screen shot as indicated above... then post and see where we stand.
:)
Got it...
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Might be worth noting that running a version of VNC (such as www.tightvnc.com) on a machine while setting up the CRTEmudriver is super helpful because when you do manage to get it displaying in a mode that's not correct for a monitor you can still connect to the machine remotely and see the display to make adjustments.
THANK YOU. I've been attempting to use QuickRes for that with only minimal success...
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I will be getting the HDMI to VGA converter tomorrow... and then the CPU the following day. I will use the Guru3D driver remover program to remove the display drivers for the R5. Power down. Move the monitor over to the HDMI to VGA plugged in to the motherboard HDMI output... re-power which should bring me to the Windows installed drivers... at which point I will install the latest version of the CRT Emudriver ... then drivers for the on-board Vega 8... then I will re-boot (just in case) and then hit up VMMAKER. Screen shot as indicated above... then post and see where we stand.
:)
Got it...
In your situation I'd do the whole process using an LCD monitor through DP (in order to keep the HDMI port spare). Do all driver installation and everything on the LCD, at its normal resolution. Then only connect the HDMI-VGA once you have enabled EDID emulation and installed the video modes on the correct output. This should make things much easier since you never loose the picture on your main LCD (the arcade monitor will run as an extended desktop). Only once you have figured out the whole thing you go on and disable the LCD monitor and make the arcade your primary display.
Now with regards to driver installation, as far as I understand CRT Emudriver replaces your on-board Vega 8 drivers completely. So I don't get why you intend to install those *after* CRT Emudriver (this will overwrite CRT Emudriver completely).
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I will be getting the HDMI to VGA converter tomorrow... and then the CPU the following day. I will use the Guru3D driver remover program to remove the display drivers for the R5. Power down. Move the monitor over to the HDMI to VGA plugged in to the motherboard HDMI output... re-power which should bring me to the Windows installed drivers... at which point I will install the latest version of the CRT Emudriver ... then drivers for the on-board Vega 8... then I will re-boot (just in case) and then hit up VMMAKER. Screen shot as indicated above... then post and see where we stand.
:)
Got it...
In your situation I'd do the whole process using an LCD monitor through DP (in order to keep the HDMI port spare). Do all driver installation and everything on the LCD, at its normal resolution. Then only connect the HDMI-VGA once you have enabled EDID emulation and installed the video modes on the correct output. This should make things much easier since you never loose the picture on your main LCD (the arcade monitor will run as an extended desktop). Only once you have figured out the whole thing you go on and disable the LCD monitor and make the arcade your primary display.
Now with regards to driver installation, as far as I understand CRT Emudriver replaces your on-board Vega 8 drivers completely. So I don't get why you intend to install those *after* CRT Emudriver (this will overwrite CRT Emudriver completely).
Actually... I'd written that part about the VEGA drivers then meant to delete it and replace with the CRT Emudriver... I don't plan on ever installing the Radeon drivers... my error (fixing it now above).
...and unfortunately the portable LCD screen I have out there is VGA (believe it or not) not DVI... thought I MAY have a DVI to VGA converter around here somewhere...
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...and unfortunately the portable LCD screen I have out there is VGA (believe it or not) not DVI... thought I MAY have a DVI to VGA converter around here somewhere...
No problem, you can use onboard VGA output to your LCD, then HDMI to your arcade. The idea is to leave the HDMI spare for the arcade monitor.
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...and unfortunately the portable LCD screen I have out there is VGA (believe it or not) not DVI... thought I MAY have a DVI to VGA converter around here somewhere...
No problem, you can use onboard VGA output to your LCD, then HDMI to your arcade. The idea is to leave the HDMI spare for the arcade monitor.
That I can do.
I suspect the answer is NO... but is there capability to output 15khz via HDMI and 30khz via VGA at the same time so both monitors would work at the same time?
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I was just thinking about something... I have a spare Raspberrian Pi JAMMA I/O board here... I do believe the jamma pi just uses a DAC to convert from HDMI to a 15khz signal that is used via JAMMA... if I plug the JAMMA end in to the cab, but rather than running the HDMI from the DAC to the Pi3... run it to the HDMI out on the PC... THAT might work?!? Basically I would be substituting the PC for the RPi3...
Hmmmm.....
EDIT: The more I think about it... the more I am convinced it would work... FOR THE VIDEO portion. The problem comes with the fact that I would have to wire the buttons up to each of the individual tiny pins of the ribbon cable that goes from the Pi3 to the I/O board... so as it stands it probably WOULD convert the video fine... but I would have no controls.
:(
Bummer
:D
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I suspect the answer is NO... but is there capability to output 15khz via HDMI and 30khz via VGA at the same time so both monitors would work at the same time?
Of course it's possible, if you check my guide I'm using different frequencies through each output. Video modes are installed for each output separately. This is one thing you need to take care of: pointing to the right output in VMMaker before creating and installing the modes.
If you do all the custom video experiments on the secondary monitor you always have a valid display to work with in case you screw things. No need for quickres scripts, etc.
I don't know the Pi JAMMA I/O board but it sounds like it should work. Anyway HDMI-VGA is quite a simple thing to achieve, I wouldn't worry too much about that. DP-VGA is a different story.
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...and a bit of good news. The HDMI to VGA converter came today... and I can get a VGA signal (doubled) on my arcade monitor... it will sync up! I've eliminated the graphics card and re-installed drivers. I've not had a chance to do anything else thus far... I just figured I'd give the good news...
Now to see if I can get a 15khz signal out of it.
I'll be returning a Ryzen 1200 if that's the case (or...who knows... maybe I'll build another rig with it... these parts are getting so cheap these days.
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OK... I have a screen on my VGA port and a screen on my HDMI port. The VGA port is showing on my PC monitor. The HDMI port is showing on my arcade monitor. I can get to a point where there are a bunch of low resolutions to choose from, however, none of them kick my arcade monitor in to 15khz mode. They will go to lower resolutions... but at 30khz (doubled screen on my arcade monitor)... I know they are going in to lower resolutions as the "TEST MODE" text gets larger and larger the lower res I go. It just won't kick to 15khz mode.
Here is the result of the VMMAKER screen...
_____ _____ _____ _
| | | | |___| |_ ___ ___
| | | | | | | | | .'| '_| -_| _|
\___/|_|_|_|_|_|_|__,|_,_|___|_| 2.0 beta 15 by Calamity - 2008/2019
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{68056FB5-7FFE-11E9-88B0-B42E994B2A1F}\0000
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY1 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY2 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY3 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY4 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0003
Device key not found. Defaulting to \\.\DISPLAY1
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY1
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
>>modelist build
Creating mode list...
Importing video modes from custom list...
27 video modes found
Generating dynamic mode table...
3 redundant video modes found.
Reducing mode list...
0 video modes dropped.
24 modelines generated.
"240x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.01 240 256 280 320 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"240x200_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.01 240 256 280 320 200 222 225 261 -hsync -vsync
"248x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.14 248 264 288 328 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x239_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 239 241 244 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x244_60 15.84KHz 60.00Hz" 5.32 256 272 296 336 244 245 248 264 -hsync -vsync
"256x256_58 16.20KHz 58.48Hz" 5.44 256 272 296 336 256 258 261 277 -hsync -vsync
"320x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.64 320 336 368 424 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"320x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.64 320 336 368 424 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"320x244_60 15.84KHz 60.00Hz" 6.72 320 336 368 424 244 245 248 264 -hsync -vsync
"320x256_58 16.20KHz 58.48Hz" 6.87 320 336 368 424 256 258 261 277 -hsync -vsync
"336x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.89 336 352 384 440 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"384x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 7.89 384 400 440 504 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"512x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 448 467 473 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x478_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 478 482 488 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" 10.91 512 536 584 672 512 515 521 555 interlace -hsync -vsync
"544x242_60 15.72KHz 60.00Hz" 11.19 544 568 624 712 242 243 246 262 -hsync -vsync
"640x200_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 13.03 640 664 728 832 200 222 225 261 -hsync -vsync
"640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 13.05 640 664 728 832 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"664x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" 14.10 664 696 760 872 496 499 505 539 interlace -hsync -vsync
"768x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" 16.36 768 800 880 1008 512 515 521 555 interlace -hsync -vsync
>>modelist install
Installing modelines in system...
Mode "512x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x478_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "664x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "768x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" rejected by driver.
24 modelines installed.
EDIT: And I am sure you'll ask, so I'll head you off... I did apply emulation to Display 2 ... Generic PnP Monitor... even though it says Display 1... (going back out to make sure again)
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Playing around more I had the settings at EXTEND DESKTOP. I switched to show only Monitor 2 (the HDMI) and then I switched resolutions. This time each time it switched, I got a very odd OUT OF SYNC signal. Each different (each resolution)... none of them compatible with the arcade monitor...
Using the on screen display tool you include... it clearly says 240x320 15.xxx khz ....
I am, unfortunately, at this point, starting to suspect that the HDMI to VGA converter only does 31khz or perhaps the HDMI port for this motherboard is only capable of outputting 31khz?
The Ryzen 1200 is coming tomorrow. If I can't get 15khz out of this by then I'll drop the 1200 in... re-install the R5 220 drivers... and give that a go. Hopefully there won't be a stability issue. BTW... the system has been rock solid again since removing that R5 220 video card this afternoon.
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Does the K7000 even support 640x480p(31khz)? See this link: https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-monitors/Wells%20Gardner%20K7000%20Manual%20from%20Williams%20Game.pdf (https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-monitors/Wells%20Gardner%20K7000%20Manual%20from%20Williams%20Game.pdf)
You should be limited to a 15khz signal in the monitor, anything above that (640x480p) should give you a scrambled signal?
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Does the K7000 even support 640x480p(31khz)? See this link: https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-monitors/Wells%20Gardner%20K7000%20Manual%20from%20Williams%20Game.pdf (https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-monitors/Wells%20Gardner%20K7000%20Manual%20from%20Williams%20Game.pdf)
You should be limited to a 15khz signal in the monitor, anything above that (640x480p) should give you a scrambled signal?
Using a JPAC the screen is doubled on a 15khz monitor when you pump a 31khz signal through it... I'll take a photo to show you what 640x480 at 31khz looks like...
EDIT: Here you go...
(https://i.imgur.com/sPVm1kv.jpg)
EDIT: And to be clear...I am using the very same methods I used to get a 15khz signal with the video card installed earlier ... but without success this time.
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I confirm that Ryzen G can use crt Emu driver 15
I try a lot myself with RyZen 2400G on mainboard ASRock A320.
I can use 240p and other lowresolution config with vmmaker by VGA on mainboard with out HDMI to VGA
I think the problem may come from MB or Bios.
On the windows, you can use software Display Driver Uninstaller to remove the driver and old config .
I installed CRT on win 10 work well
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I confirm that Ryzen G can use crt Emu driver 15
I try a lot myself with RyZen 2400G on mainboard ASRock A320.
I can use 240p and other lowresolution config with vmmaker by VGA on mainboard with out HDMI to VGA
I think the problem may come from MB or Bios.
On the windows, you can use software Display Driver Uninstaller to remove the driver and old config .
I installed CRT on win 10 work well
I suspect you are correct in that it's the motherboard and/or BIOS. I can't even display a regular VGA signal via a JPAC ala the VGA port of mine... at first I thought perhaps I had a bad JPAC or VGA cable (i tried another)... but after I dropped the dedicated card in and got a signal immediately... I know something was up.
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EDIT: Here you go...
(https://i.imgur.com/sPVm1kv.jpg)
EDIT: And to be clear...I am using the very same methods I used to get a 15khz signal with the video card installed earlier ... but without success this time.
That looks like a sync issue with your Horizontal Sync. It’s shifted substantially.
When you say that you are using a 31khz (640x480p), what makes you say that? Are you going off of something on the JPAC, or off of Arcade OSD? The only way to know what resolution you are using once you’ve installed the driver is through Arcade OSD. There you will see the resolution and frequency.
Have you tried dropping the JPAC just to see what happens?
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EDIT: Here you go...
(https://i.imgur.com/sPVm1kv.jpg)
EDIT: And to be clear...I am using the very same methods I used to get a 15khz signal with the video card installed earlier ... but without success this time.
That looks like a sync issue with your Horizontal Sync. It’s shifted substantially.
That is a 31khz signal run through a JPAC on a 15khz monitor. You can see the doubling of the window... it's not "half and half". Trust me... I've been doing this a long time and have been using this JPAC for literally 10 years. (EDIT: BTW, this is a FEATURE of the JPAC... you can set, by jumper, to show a doubled 31K screen as you see above rather than just scrambled mess.
When you say that you are using a 31khz (640x480p), what makes you say that? Are you going off of something on the JPAC, or off of Arcade OSD? The only way to know what resolution you are using once you’ve installed the driver is through Arcade OSD. There you will see the resolution and frequency.
The fact I can plug my PC VGA monitor in to the port and get a perfect 640x480p screen then swap to my arcade monitor and get the screen above tells me.
Have you tried dropping the JPAC just to see what happens?
I don't have a way to plug my arcade monitor in to the PC otherwise. The monitor doesn't have a DSUB (VGA) input...
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OK... I have a screen on my VGA port and a screen on my HDMI port. The VGA port is showing on my PC monitor. The HDMI port is showing on my arcade monitor. I can get to a point where there are a bunch of low resolutions to choose from, however, none of them kick my arcade monitor in to 15khz mode. They will go to lower resolutions... but at 30khz (doubled screen on my arcade monitor)... I know they are going in to lower resolutions as the "TEST MODE" text gets larger and larger the lower res I go. It just won't kick to 15khz mode.
Here is the result of the VMMAKER screen...
_____ _____ _____ _
| | | | |___| |_ ___ ___
| | | | | | | | | .'| '_| -_| _|
\___/|_|_|_|_|_|_|__,|_,_|___|_| 2.0 beta 15 by Calamity - 2008/2019
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{68056FB5-7FFE-11E9-88B0-B42E994B2A1F}\0000
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY1 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY2 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY3 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY4 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0003
Device key not found. Defaulting to \\.\DISPLAY1
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY1
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
>>modelist build
Creating mode list...
Importing video modes from custom list...
27 video modes found
Generating dynamic mode table...
3 redundant video modes found.
Reducing mode list...
0 video modes dropped.
24 modelines generated.
"240x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.01 240 256 280 320 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"240x200_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.01 240 256 280 320 200 222 225 261 -hsync -vsync
"248x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.14 248 264 288 328 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x239_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 239 241 244 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x244_60 15.84KHz 60.00Hz" 5.32 256 272 296 336 244 245 248 264 -hsync -vsync
"256x256_58 16.20KHz 58.48Hz" 5.44 256 272 296 336 256 258 261 277 -hsync -vsync
"320x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.64 320 336 368 424 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"320x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.64 320 336 368 424 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"320x244_60 15.84KHz 60.00Hz" 6.72 320 336 368 424 244 245 248 264 -hsync -vsync
"320x256_58 16.20KHz 58.48Hz" 6.87 320 336 368 424 256 258 261 277 -hsync -vsync
"336x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.89 336 352 384 440 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"384x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 7.89 384 400 440 504 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"512x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 448 467 473 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x478_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 478 482 488 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" 10.91 512 536 584 672 512 515 521 555 interlace -hsync -vsync
"544x242_60 15.72KHz 60.00Hz" 11.19 544 568 624 712 242 243 246 262 -hsync -vsync
"640x200_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 13.03 640 664 728 832 200 222 225 261 -hsync -vsync
"640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 13.05 640 664 728 832 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"664x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" 14.10 664 696 760 872 496 499 505 539 interlace -hsync -vsync
"768x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" 16.36 768 800 880 1008 512 515 521 555 interlace -hsync -vsync
>>modelist install
Installing modelines in system...
Mode "512x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x478_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "664x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "768x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" rejected by driver.
24 modelines installed.
EDIT: And I am sure you'll ask, so I'll head you off... I did apply emulation to Display 2 ... Generic PnP Monitor... even though it says Display 1... (going back out to make sure again)
Ok, you're almost there but you have missed the critical step of enabling EDID emulation. Not saying you forgot it, I guess you tried but didn't work. This is why it's so important that you post the screenshot of VMMaker's EDID emulation screen, with all the outputs listed.
Check my pictures attached to see how it should look. I've taken these right now with an HDMI-VGA adapter connected. Before EDID emulation, it reports "Generic PnP Monitor". After, it must say "ARCADE_15". Unless you get to this point, anything else you try is a waste of time, it won't work.
From your log, I can see the outputs are not listed. They should be listed on startup right after "ADL Library found, retrieving functions...". This may point to some existing issue. This is what I get here:
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
Connector 3 HDMI-A
Connector 0 DisplayPort
Connector 1 DisplayPort
Connector 2 DisplayPort
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
Modes being rejected means that you're installing them on an output that is incompatible with those modes. Usually, this happen when these modes collide with an existing EDID. I suspect these HDMI dongles fake their own EDID in order to work. Unless you enable EDID emulation to override this fake EDID it will block some of your modes.
Finally, as I previously said make sure to use the super resolutions mode list instead of the one you're using. Low resolutions won't work through HDMI, even if they're allowed to be installed, due to the pixelclock limitation affecting HDMI. Super resolutions are the (only) way to go.
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I try a lot myself with RyZen 2400G on mainboard ASRock A320.
I can use 240p and other lowresolution config with vmmaker by VGA on mainboard with out HDMI to VGA
That's really interesting, I'd appreciate you also posted some screenshots of VMMaker to see how the outputs are listed.
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OK... I have a screen on my VGA port and a screen on my HDMI port. The VGA port is showing on my PC monitor. The HDMI port is showing on my arcade monitor. I can get to a point where there are a bunch of low resolutions to choose from, however, none of them kick my arcade monitor in to 15khz mode. They will go to lower resolutions... but at 30khz (doubled screen on my arcade monitor)... I know they are going in to lower resolutions as the "TEST MODE" text gets larger and larger the lower res I go. It just won't kick to 15khz mode.
Here is the result of the VMMAKER screen...
_____ _____ _____ _
| | | | |___| |_ ___ ___
| | | | | | | | | .'| '_| -_| _|
\___/|_|_|_|_|_|_|__,|_,_|___|_| 2.0 beta 15 by Calamity - 2008/2019
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{68056FB5-7FFE-11E9-88B0-B42E994B2A1F}\0000
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY1 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY2 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY3 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY4 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{2DE4E493-825B-11E9-88F4-806E6F6E6963}\0003
Device key not found. Defaulting to \\.\DISPLAY1
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY1
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
>>modelist build
Creating mode list...
Importing video modes from custom list...
27 video modes found
Generating dynamic mode table...
3 redundant video modes found.
Reducing mode list...
0 video modes dropped.
24 modelines generated.
"240x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.01 240 256 280 320 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"240x200_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.01 240 256 280 320 200 222 225 261 -hsync -vsync
"248x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.14 248 264 288 328 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x192_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 192 218 221 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x239_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 239 241 244 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 5.26 256 272 296 336 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"256x244_60 15.84KHz 60.00Hz" 5.32 256 272 296 336 244 245 248 264 -hsync -vsync
"256x256_58 16.20KHz 58.48Hz" 5.44 256 272 296 336 256 258 261 277 -hsync -vsync
"320x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.64 320 336 368 424 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"320x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.64 320 336 368 424 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"320x244_60 15.84KHz 60.00Hz" 6.72 320 336 368 424 244 245 248 264 -hsync -vsync
"320x256_58 16.20KHz 58.48Hz" 6.87 320 336 368 424 256 258 261 277 -hsync -vsync
"336x224_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 6.89 336 352 384 440 224 234 237 261 -hsync -vsync
"384x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 7.89 384 400 440 504 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"512x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 448 467 473 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x478_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 478 482 488 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 10.42 512 536 584 664 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"512x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" 10.91 512 536 584 672 512 515 521 555 interlace -hsync -vsync
"544x242_60 15.72KHz 60.00Hz" 11.19 544 568 624 712 242 243 246 262 -hsync -vsync
"640x200_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 13.03 640 664 728 832 200 222 225 261 -hsync -vsync
"640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 13.05 640 664 728 832 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"664x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" 14.10 664 696 760 872 496 499 505 539 interlace -hsync -vsync
"768x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" 16.36 768 800 880 1008 512 515 521 555 interlace -hsync -vsync
>>modelist install
Installing modelines in system...
Mode "512x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x478_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "512x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "664x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "768x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" rejected by driver.
24 modelines installed.
EDIT: And I am sure you'll ask, so I'll head you off... I did apply emulation to Display 2 ... Generic PnP Monitor... even though it says Display 1... (going back out to make sure again)
Ok, you're almost there but you have missed the critical step of enabling EDID emulation. Not saying you forgot it, I guess you tried but didn't work. This is why it's so important that you post the screenshot of VMMaker's EDID emulation screen, with all the outputs listed.
Check my pictures attached to see how it should look. I've taken these right now with an HDMI-VGA adapter connected. Before EDID emulation, it reports "Generic PnP Monitor". After, it must say "ARCADE_15". Unless you get to this point, anything else you try is a waste of time, it won't work.
From your log, I can see the outputs are not listed. They should be listed on startup right after "ADL Library found, retrieving functions...". This may point to some existing issue. This is what I get here:
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
Connector 3 HDMI-A
Connector 0 DisplayPort
Connector 1 DisplayPort
Connector 2 DisplayPort
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
Modes being rejected means that you're installing them on an output that is incompatible with those modes. Usually, this happen when these modes collide with an existing EDID. I suspect these HDMI dongles fake their own EDID in order to work. Unless you enable EDID emulation to override this fake EDID it will block some of your modes.
Finally, as I previously said make sure to use the super resolutions mode list instead of the one you're using. Low resolutions won't work through HDMI, even if they're allowed to be installed, due to the pixelclock limitation affecting HDMI. Super resolutions are the (only) way to go.
That cut/paste was taken WITH EDID emulation enabled on the HDMI port [EDIT: Come to think of it, I probably enabled EDID after the cut/paste was taken]. I double checked the settings before I cut/pasted the text above. I noted the wrong DISPLAY in my edit above... but when I checked the system it WAS on the HDMI display and EDID was enabled on that HDMI port attached to the "general" monitor while the non EDID enabled port showed my HP LCD monitor.
That said... I was using the standard resolutions, not the super resolution. I did try to install them once, but they didn't appear (the resolutions) so I moved on thinking I was on the wrong path. I will go back and try them. I will also take a photo of the setup screen with EDID enabled, etc so you can see that.
BTW... so I am 100% clear...am I go generate the list of modes and then install them AFTER enabling EDID or BEFORE enabling EDID? Also should I tick the "add modes from mode list" option when I enable EDID?
How I HAVE been doing it is: Load VMmaker... check settings to make sure I am on the proper video card... add Groovymame info and tick the option right below where you put the Groovymame exe in... then I dropped out... generated modes based on Arcade monitor settings... back in to enable EDID ...usually with the "add modes from mode list" option ticked (though Iv'e tried without) and then back to "install modes" .
I tried testing BEFORE installing modes...and after... I figured the "add modes from mode list" essentially did the same thing.
I've also tried mixing it up and installing the modes first then enabling EDID...
I've really tried it all (except I've only tried super resolutions mode once so there is my focus today).
I'll report back.
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EDIT: Come to think of it, I probably enabled EDID after the cut/paste was taken
Nevermind. It's important to check whether the drivers are listing the outputs properly or not. That's what I want to see in the screenshot. If they're not listed properly, EDID emulation can't happen.
BTW... so I am 100% clear...am I go generate the list of modes and then install them AFTER enabling EDID or BEFORE enabling EDID? Also should I tick the "add modes from mode list" option when I enable EDID?
First of all you must enable EDID emulation. Only after this step VMMaker will have a monitor to work with. It has to be listed as ARCADE_15 (since that's the default VMMaker's preset).
You MUST NOT tick the "add modes from mode list" option (that option is there for a specific task where it's required but sometimes I regret having added it).
After you have enabled EDID emulation, and you have a monitor listed as ARCADE_15, and made sure you've selected it, only then, you can move on to the step where you generate and install modes.
add Groovymame info
You can avoid this step by now.
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Basically, I suspect EDID emulation is not working at all on your system, for some reason. I need to see that screenshot with the listing.
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Following the exact steps above...
Log...
_____ _____ _____ _
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| | | | | | | | | .'| '_| -_| _|
\___/|_|_|_|_|_|_|__,|_,_|___|_| 2.0 beta 15 by Calamity - 2008/2019
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY21 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY22 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY23 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY24 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0003
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY22
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
>>config
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>modelist build
Creating mode list...
Importing video modes from custom list...
31 video modes found
Generating dynamic mode table...
16 redundant video modes found.
Reducing mode list...
0 video modes dropped.
15 modelines generated.
"640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 13.05 640 664 728 832 480 483 488 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 52.12 2560 2664 2912 3328 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"2560x248_59 15.80KHz 58.96Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 248 249 252 268 -hsync -vsync
"2560x256_57 15.80KHz 57.25Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 256 257 260 276 -hsync -vsync
"2560x264_56 15.80KHz 55.63Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 264 265 268 284 -hsync -vsync
"2560x272_54 15.80KHz 54.11Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 272 273 276 292 -hsync -vsync
"2560x280_53 15.80KHz 52.67Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 280 281 284 300 -hsync -vsync
"2560x288_51 15.80KHz 51.30Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 288 289 292 308 -hsync -vsync
"2560x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 448 467 472 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x464_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 464 475 480 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 480 483 488 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x496_59 15.83KHz 58.96Hz" 52.81 2560 2664 2912 3336 496 498 503 537 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x512_57 15.83KHz 57.25Hz" 52.80 2560 2664 2912 3336 512 514 519 553 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x544_54 15.83KHz 54.11Hz" 52.80 2560 2664 2912 3336 544 546 551 585 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x560_53 15.83KHz 52.67Hz" 52.80 2560 2664 2912 3336 560 562 567 601 interlace -hsync -vsync
>>modelist install
Installing modelines in system...
Mode "640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x464_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x496_59 15.83KHz 58.96Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x512_57 15.83KHz 57.25Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x544_54 15.83KHz 54.11Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x560_53 15.83KHz 52.67Hz" rejected by driver.
15 modelines installed.
Yes... HDMI was selected at bottom left in the settings. Generic PnP device was selected.
Looks like 7 modes should have been installed...yet using the OSD program you supply... they are not available and none of what appears is 15khz...
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For God's sake FrizzleFried, post a SCREENSHOT of the VMMaker's video card tab.
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Here is a photo of my settings page...
(https://i.imgur.com/dCSk51n.jpg)
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For God's sake FrizzleFried, post a SCREENSHOT of the VMMaker's video card tab.
I was in the process... I'm sorry... this is all out in the garage... away from internet access...
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...and to be clear... YES... I selected the BLUE DEVICE... in that above image (Generic PnP Monitor).
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...and because that drop down was covering some stuff up... here...
(https://i.imgur.com/7SyYSZB.jpg)
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As much as you may think otherwise...
...I'm not a moron. This isn't working.
It works EXACTLY as you tell me with the video card... (but with crashes and instability). It simply DOES NOT WORK with the on board video... VGA or HDMI.
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Sorry for the rush.
Ok, EDID emulation definitely is NOT working. Could you possible show another snapshot where the dropdown menu in the EDID emulation part is expanded?
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As much as you may think otherwise...
...I'm not a moron. This isn't working.
It works EXACTLY as you tell me with the video card... (but with crashes and instability). It simply DOES NOT WORK with the on board video... VGA or HDMI.
I'm not telling you moron, it's just that I'm asking that picture since Sunday my friend.
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Sorry for the rush.
Ok, EDID emulation definitely is NOT working. Could you possible show another snapshot where the dropdown menu in the EDID emulation part is expanded?
Just a DVI option...
(https://i.imgur.com/ZQb1aR9.jpg)
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Thanks!
Do you get the same listing there when the you select the other options in the upper menu "Device:"? E.g. if you pick \\.\DISPLAY21 in there.
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Correct.
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Thanks so much.
Inside VMMaker's folder, you're going to find a file named edid.bin. Could you please zip it and attach it here?
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I've just compiled a verbose version of VMMaker, please run it in your system and post the log here, I've attached the executable, just rename the old one and drop this one in the same folder. I just need a copy of its startup log, no need to test anything else.
I really appreciate your collaboration.
EDIT: Just to add the actual complete log we need requires you to enter the Edit Settings tab.
Mine looks like this:
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY1
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
adapter(0).mindex 0
adapter(0).mbus 11
adapter(0).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(0).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY1
adapter(0).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(1).mindex 1
adapter(1).mbus 11
adapter(1).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(1).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY2
adapter(1).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(2).mindex 2
adapter(2).mbus 11
adapter(2).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(2).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY3
adapter(2).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(3).mindex 3
adapter(3).mbus 11
adapter(3).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(3).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY4
adapter(3).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(4).mindex 4
adapter(4).mbus 11
adapter(4).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(4).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY5
adapter(4).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(5).mindex 5
adapter(5).mbus 11
adapter(5).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(5).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY6
adapter(5).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(6).mindex 6
adapter(6).mbus 11
adapter(6).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(6).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY7
adapter(6).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(7).mindex 7
adapter(7).mbus 11
adapter(7).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(7).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY8
adapter(7).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(8).mindex 8
adapter(8).mbus 11
adapter(8).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(8).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY9
adapter(8).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(9).mindex 9
adapter(9).mbus 11
adapter(9).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(9).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY10
adapter(9).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(10).mindex 10
adapter(10).mbus 11
adapter(10).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(10).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY11
adapter(10).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(11).mindex 11
adapter(11).mbus 11
adapter(11).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(11).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY12
adapter(11).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(12).mindex 12
adapter(12).mbus 11
adapter(12).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(12).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY13
adapter(12).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(13).mindex 13
adapter(13).mbus 11
adapter(13).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(13).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY14
adapter(13).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(14).mindex 14
adapter(14).mbus 11
adapter(14).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(14).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY15
adapter(14).mnumofdisplays 30
adapter(15).mindex 15
adapter(15).mbus 11
adapter(15).mname Radeon RX Vega (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(15).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY16
adapter(15).mnumofdisplays 30
Connector 3 HDMI-A
Connector 0 DisplayPort
Connector 1 DisplayPort
Connector 2 DisplayPort
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 8 physical_index: 8 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 5 physical_index: 5 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 6 physical_index: 6 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 7 physical_index: 7 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 9 physical_index: 9 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 10 physical_index: 10 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 11 physical_index: 11 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 8 physical_index: 8 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 5 physical_index: 5 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 6 physical_index: 6 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 7 physical_index: 7 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 9 physical_index: 9 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 10 physical_index: 10 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 11 physical_index: 11 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 12 physical_index: 12 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 13 physical_index: 13 display_connector: 17
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 14 physical_index: 14 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 15 physical_index: 15 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 16 physical_index: 16 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 17 physical_index: 17 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 18 physical_index: 18 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 19 physical_index: 19 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 20 physical_index: 20 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 21 physical_index: 21 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 22 physical_index: 22 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 23 physical_index: 23 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 24 physical_index: 24 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 25 physical_index: 25 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 26 physical_index: 26 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 27 physical_index: 27 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 28 physical_index: 28 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 29 physical_index: 29 display_connector: 15
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Thanks so much.
Inside VMMaker's folder, you're going to find a file named edid.bin. Could you please zip it and attach it here?
Attached...
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Thanks! Also, just in case, try using the Arcade_15 preset instead of the K7000 one.
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Is this what you are looking for?
_____ _____ _____ _
| | | | |___| |_ ___ ___
| | | | | | | | | .'| '_| -_| _|
\___/|_|_|_|_|_|_|__,|_,_|___|_| 2.0 beta 15 by Calamity - 2008/2019
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY31 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY32 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY33 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY34 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0003
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY32
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
adapter(0).mindex 0
adapter(0).mbus 7
adapter(0).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(0).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY31
adapter(0).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(1).mindex 1
adapter(1).mbus 7
adapter(1).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(1).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY32
adapter(1).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(2).mindex 2
adapter(2).mbus 7
adapter(2).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(2).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY33
adapter(2).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(3).mindex 3
adapter(3).mbus 7
adapter(3).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(3).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY34
adapter(3).mnumofdisplays 6
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 5 physical_index: 5 display_connector: 2
>>config
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>modelist build
Creating mode list...
Importing video modes from custom list...
31 video modes found
Generating dynamic mode table...
16 redundant video modes found.
Reducing mode list...
0 video modes dropped.
15 modelines generated.
"640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 13.05 640 664 728 832 480 483 488 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 52.12 2560 2664 2912 3328 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"2560x248_59 15.80KHz 58.96Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 248 249 252 268 -hsync -vsync
"2560x256_57 15.80KHz 57.25Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 256 257 260 276 -hsync -vsync
"2560x264_56 15.80KHz 55.63Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 264 265 268 284 -hsync -vsync
"2560x272_54 15.80KHz 54.11Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 272 273 276 292 -hsync -vsync
"2560x280_53 15.80KHz 52.67Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 280 281 284 300 -hsync -vsync
"2560x288_51 15.80KHz 51.30Hz" 52.71 2560 2664 2912 3336 288 289 292 308 -hsync -vsync
"2560x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 448 467 472 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x464_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 464 475 480 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 480 483 488 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x496_59 15.83KHz 58.96Hz" 52.81 2560 2664 2912 3336 496 498 503 537 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x512_57 15.83KHz 57.25Hz" 52.80 2560 2664 2912 3336 512 514 519 553 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x544_54 15.83KHz 54.11Hz" 52.80 2560 2664 2912 3336 544 546 551 585 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x560_53 15.83KHz 52.67Hz" 52.80 2560 2664 2912 3336 560 562 567 601 interlace -hsync -vsync
>>modelist install
Installing modelines in system...
Mode "640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x464_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x496_59 15.83KHz 58.96Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x512_57 15.83KHz 57.25Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x544_54 15.83KHz 54.11Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x560_53 15.83KHz 52.67Hz" rejected by driver.
15 modelines installed.
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Yes!
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Thanks! Also, just in case, try using the Arcade_15 preset instead of the K7000 one.
Redoing with ARCADE_15 settings...
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Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY31 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY32 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY33 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY34 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0003
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY32
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
adapter(0).mindex 0
adapter(0).mbus 7
adapter(0).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(0).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY31
adapter(0).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(1).mindex 1
adapter(1).mbus 7
adapter(1).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(1).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY32
adapter(1).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(2).mindex 2
adapter(2).mbus 7
adapter(2).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(2).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY33
adapter(2).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(3).mindex 3
adapter(3).mbus 7
adapter(3).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(3).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY34
adapter(3).mnumofdisplays 6
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 5 physical_index: 5 display_connector: 2
>>config
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>modelist build
Creating mode list...
Importing video modes from custom list...
31 video modes found
Generating dynamic mode table...
16 redundant video modes found.
Reducing mode list...
0 video modes dropped.
15 modelines generated.
"640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 13.05 640 664 728 832 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x240_60 15.66KHz 60.00Hz" 52.12 2560 2664 2912 3328 240 242 245 261 -hsync -vsync
"2560x248_60 16.14KHz 60.00Hz" 54.23 2560 2672 2928 3360 248 250 253 269 -hsync -vsync
"2560x256_58 16.20KHz 58.48Hz" 54.43 2560 2672 2928 3360 256 258 261 277 -hsync -vsync
"2560x264_57 16.20KHz 56.84Hz" 54.43 2560 2672 2928 3360 264 266 269 285 -hsync -vsync
"2560x272_55 16.20KHz 55.29Hz" 54.43 2560 2672 2928 3360 272 274 277 293 -hsync -vsync
"2560x280_54 16.20KHz 53.82Hz" 54.43 2560 2672 2928 3360 280 282 285 301 -hsync -vsync
"2560x288_52 16.20KHz 52.43Hz" 54.43 2560 2672 2928 3360 288 290 293 309 -hsync -vsync
"2560x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 448 467 473 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x464_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 464 475 481 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" 52.22 2560 2664 2912 3328 480 483 489 523 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" 54.33 2560 2672 2928 3360 496 499 505 539 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" 54.66 2560 2672 2928 3368 512 515 521 555 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x544_55 16.23KHz 55.29Hz" 54.65 2560 2672 2928 3368 544 547 553 587 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x560_54 16.23KHz 53.82Hz" 54.65 2560 2672 2928 3368 560 563 569 603 interlace -hsync -vsync
>>modelist install
Installing modelines in system...
Mode "640x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x448_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x464_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x480_60 15.69KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x496_60 16.17KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x512_58 16.23KHz 58.48Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x544_55 16.23KHz 55.29Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x560_54 16.23KHz 53.82Hz" rejected by driver.
15 modelines installed.
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One final test for me, please. Could you try enabling EDID emulation with the ARCADE_31 preset?
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One final test for me, please. Could you try enabling EDID emulation with the ARCADE_31 preset?
Doing so now (trying to do all this between actual "work")...
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Doing so now (trying to do all this between actual "work")...
Me too ;)
EDIT: Just need to see if the driver eats the EDID. Of course it won't be valid for 15 kHz so don't even try installing modes.
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Doing so now (trying to do all this between actual "work")...
Me too ;)
EDIT: Just need to see if the driver eats the EDID. Of course it won't be valid for 15 kHz so don't even try installing modes.
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| | | | | | | | | .'| '_| -_| _|
\___/|_|_|_|_|_|_|__,|_,_|___|_| 2.0 beta 15 by Calamity - 2008/2019
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY46 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY47 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY48 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY49 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0003
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY47
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
adapter(0).mindex 0
adapter(0).mbus 7
adapter(0).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(0).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY46
adapter(0).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(1).mindex 1
adapter(1).mbus 7
adapter(1).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(1).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY47
adapter(1).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(2).mindex 2
adapter(2).mbus 7
adapter(2).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(2).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY48
adapter(2).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(3).mindex 3
adapter(3).mbus 7
adapter(3).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(3).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY49
adapter(3).mnumofdisplays 6
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 5 physical_index: 5 display_connector: 2
>>edid start Digital_4
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
Restarting device \\.\DISPLAY47
D:\UTILITIES\crt_emudriver_&_tools_2.0_beta_15_18.5.1_W.10-64\devutil64.exe reset "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&SUBSYS_D0001458&REV_C8"
Device has changed.
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY51 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY52 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY53 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY54 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0003
enabling \\.\DISPLAY52 : success
>>display init \System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
Listing display devices...
\\.\DISPLAY51 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - HP vp17 - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
\\.\DISPLAY52 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - Generic PnP Monitor - enabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0001
\\.\DISPLAY53 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0002
\\.\DISPLAY54 - AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics - No monitor - disabled - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0003
Getting driver information for \\.\DISPLAY52
ADL Library found, retrieving functions...
adapter(0).mindex 0
adapter(0).mbus 7
adapter(0).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(0).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY51
adapter(0).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(1).mindex 1
adapter(1).mbus 7
adapter(1).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(1).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY52
adapter(1).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(2).mindex 2
adapter(2).mbus 7
adapter(2).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(2).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY53
adapter(2).mnumofdisplays 6
adapter(3).mindex 3
adapter(3).mbus 7
adapter(3).mname AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 8 Graphics (CRT Emudriver)
adapter(3).mdisplayname \\.\DISPLAY54
adapter(3).mnumofdisplays 6
ADL functions retrieved successfully.
CRT Emudriver 2.0 (18.5) found.
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: 0 logical_index: 0 physical_index: 0 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 1 physical_index: 1 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 2 physical_index: 2 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 3 physical_index: 3 display_connector: 15
logical_adapter_index: 1 logical_index: 4 physical_index: 4 display_connector: 10
logical_adapter_index: -1 logical_index: 5 physical_index: 5 display_connector: 2
>>config
Processing config...
Exporting settings to mame.ini...
>>modelist build
Creating mode list...
Importing video modes from custom list...
31 video modes found
Generating dynamic mode table...
10 redundant video modes found.
Reducing mode list...
0 video modes dropped.
21 modelines generated.
"640x480_60 31.50KHz 60.00Hz" 25.45 640 664 760 808 480 491 493 525 -hsync -vsync
"2560x384_60 31.44KHz 60.00Hz" 101.61 2560 2656 3040 3232 384 443 445 524 -hsync -vsync
"2560x392_60 31.44KHz 60.00Hz" 101.61 2560 2656 3040 3232 392 447 449 524 -hsync -vsync
"2560x400_60 31.44KHz 60.00Hz" 101.61 2560 2656 3040 3232 400 451 453 524 -hsync -vsync
"2560x416_60 31.44KHz 60.00Hz" 101.61 2560 2656 3040 3232 416 459 461 524 -hsync -vsync
"2560x432_60 31.44KHz 60.00Hz" 101.61 2560 2656 3040 3232 432 467 469 524 -hsync -vsync
"2560x448_60 31.44KHz 60.00Hz" 101.61 2560 2656 3040 3232 448 475 477 524 -hsync -vsync
"2560x464_60 31.44KHz 60.00Hz" 101.61 2560 2656 3040 3232 464 483 485 524 -hsync -vsync
"2560x480_60 31.50KHz 60.00Hz" 101.81 2560 2656 3040 3232 480 491 493 525 -hsync -vsync
"2560x768_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 101.71 2560 2656 3040 3232 768 885 889 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x800_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 101.71 2560 2656 3040 3232 800 901 905 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"2560x960_60 31.53KHz 60.00Hz" 101.90 2560 2656 3040 3232 960 982 986 1051 interlace -hsync -vsync
"5120x480_60 31.50KHz 60.00Hz" 203.62 5120 5312 6080 6464 480 491 493 525 -hsync -vsync
"7680x768_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 305.13 7680 7968 9120 9696 768 885 889 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"7680x792_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 305.13 7680 7968 9120 9696 792 897 901 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"7680x816_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 305.13 7680 7968 9120 9696 816 909 913 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"7680x840_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 305.13 7680 7968 9120 9696 840 921 925 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"7680x864_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 305.13 7680 7968 9120 9696 864 933 937 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"7680x888_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 305.13 7680 7968 9120 9696 888 945 949 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"7680x912_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" 305.13 7680 7968 9120 9696 912 957 961 1049 interlace -hsync -vsync
"7680x960_60 31.53KHz 60.00Hz" 305.71 7680 7968 9120 9696 960 982 986 1051 interlace -hsync -vsync
>>modelist install
Installing modelines in system...
Mode "2560x768_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x800_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "2560x960_60 31.53KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x768_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x792_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x816_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x840_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x864_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x888_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x912_60 31.47KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
Mode "7680x960_60 31.53KHz 60.00Hz" rejected by driver.
21 modelines installed.
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Thank you.
Last (I swear) if you have a chance, no hurry, pass me a .reg file of this key in your system: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
At this point I can say I can't fix it from here. Everything is working as intended except the driver rejects the EDID for some reason. It works here with a newer Vega GPU, so I'm quite sure it's possible to get it working. But I'd need to do kernel debugging on the phyisical machine to figure out the issue. So I think it's time I bite the bullet and get the 2400G so I can play with it here.
Thank you for your time and the information you've provided, it's very valuable to me and to the project. I'm sorry that it didn't work. I can't test all gpus so what I usually do is to have a stock of cards that cover the lower and higher (or older-newer) range of the ones I want to support. So having success with the Vega 56 induced me to think the Vega 8 would work out of the box. I'd like to have checked this months ago but I have very little free time.
Cheers,
Calamity
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I will get that reg file to you today. It appears my only path at this point is to install the Ryzen 1200 (it's at the local distribution point and should be here today) and go from there.
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BTW... safe to continue using this VMmaker going forward or should I go back to the "normal" one?
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Thank you.
Last (I swear) if you have a chance, no hurry, pass me a .reg file of this key in your system: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{D39178CA-82E6-11E9-8904-99523214DC8F}\0000
At this point I can say I can't fix it from here. Everything is working as intended except the driver rejects the EDID for some reason. It works here with a newer Vega GPU, so I'm quite sure it's possible to get it working. But I'd need to do kernel debugging on the phyisical machine to figure out the issue. So I think it's time I bite the bullet and get the 2400G so I can play with it here.
Thank you for your time and the information you've provided, it's very valuable to me and to the project. I'm sorry that it didn't work. I can't test all gpus so what I usually do is to have a stock of cards that cover the lower and higher (or older-newer) range of the ones I want to support. So having success with the Vega 56 induced me to think the Vega 8 would work out of the box. I'd like to have checked this months ago but I have very little free time.
Cheers,
Calamity
See attached. Now on to swapping APU/CPU...
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...and with the CPU installed... 5 minutes later and...
(https://i.imgur.com/V6zFk9b.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5fMTNVv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0hnuiuE.jpg)
The driver works exactly as I expected it SHOULD work too... glad I wasn't going crazy.
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BTW... safe to continue using this VMmaker going forward or should I go back to the "normal" one?
It is safe to use it, it just shows more information in the console.
Thanks for your .reg, everything is setup correctly, it's an issue with the driver itself. I won't manage to figure it out until I get my hands on the hardware.
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BTW... safe to continue using this VMmaker going forward or should I go back to the "normal" one?
It is safe to use it, it just shows more information in the console.
Thanks for your .reg, everything is setup correctly, it's an issue with the driver itself. I won't manage to figure it out until I get my hands on the hardware.
FWIW since someone else had success, it may be a MOTHERBOARD issue? He was using an Asus MB and I have the cheapest Gigabyte money could buy... GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2H
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FWIW since someone else had success, it may be a MOTHERBOARD issue? He was using an Asus MB and I have the cheapest Gigabyte money could buy... GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2H
There was a time when Gigabyte made fantastic motherboards. I think that time has long passed. I won't buy anything other than Asus now.
That said, it might be worth doing a side-by-side comparison of the specs on both boards to see if there's a hardware/chipset/component difference between the two boards that we can isolate as the cause for incompatibility. Then in the future, we could just say that boards designed with "part x" are not compatible. Though in reality, it might come down to a missing or incorrectly coded feature in the motherboard BIOS that could be fixed in a future update.
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Minor issue ... In ATTRACT-MODE even though my desktop is at 640x480i, when I drop in to attract-mode it does so at 640x480p.... when I exit it goes back to 640x480i. If I set the resolution to anything else, it maintains the correct resolution / 15khz.... and of course all my layouts I've made for Attract Mode are at 640x480...
How do I "remove" 640x480p mode or otherwise prevent it from being used?
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BTW... it appears that Groovymame is working with the resolution changer properly... and I have to say my emulated games have never looked quite as nice.
Awesome piece of software Calamity.
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I've noticed a distinct drop in speed between the VEGA 8 and the R5 220. For example, running the Vega 8 with a PC monitor I was dropping below 100% on Gauntlet Dark Legacy only twice during the whole attract mode... now it occasionally goes above 100% sitting around 80-85% most of the time.
This R5 220 is a piece of crap card to be honest... and after a bit of research I ended up picking up a factory reconditioned R7 250 which is a much better card while still retaining the VGA output. I am HOPING that it's old enough (2013 introduced) that the VGA out will work with little fuss (PLEASE??)... but at $49.00 it was hard to pass (especially since this R5 220 was $39 and is going back).
Any insight on the R7 250? Will it be as easy as the R5 220? Will the VGA port work or am I going to have to fuss with HDMI again?
Thanks....
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I own a HD 7750 and I just picked up a low profile R7 250 off of Ebay last week. They're both 1st gen GCN parts (Cape Verde Pro vs Oland XT) and they're almost identical performance-wise from what I've read. I think the 7750 is supposed to have a few more shader units or something but at the end of the day I don't think it makes much difference.
So far, I've only tested the HD 7750 with CRT_Emudriver 2.0 and it works perfect. I expect that the R7 250 to be the same. If I get some time tonight or tomorrow, I'll try to toss it in my MAME PC to see how it works.
EDIT: Here's a comparison of the specs (from wikipedia) between the HD 7750 and the various R7 250 models...
(https://i.imgur.com/KvaS1XQ.png)
EDIT 2: I found this useful list online that shows how the new card names map to the old names.
- Radeon R9 290X = Hawai XT = new card
- Radeon R9 290 = Hawaii PRO = new card
- Radeon R9 285 = Tonga PRO = new card
- Radeon R9 280X = Tahiti XT = Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition
- Radeon R9 280 = Tahiti PRO = Radeon HD 7950 Boost Edition
- Radeon R9 270X = Curacao XT (Pitcairn XT) = Radeon HD 7870
- Radeon R9 270 = Curacao PRO (Pitcairn XT) = Radeon HD 7870 reduced clocks
- Radeon R7 265 = Pitcairn PRO = Radeon HD 7850
- Radeon R7 260X = Bonaire XTX = Radeon HD 7790
- Radeon R7 260 = Bonaire = Radeon HD 7790 with reduced configuration
- Radeon R7 250X = Cape Verde = Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition
- Radeon R7 250 = Oland XT = new card
- Radeon R7 240 = Oland PRO = new card
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Hmmm... I wonder what version of R7 250 I have... I got this:
https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-r7-250-r7-250-2gd3-oc/p/27N-0023-00083?Description=r7%20250&cm_re=r7_250-_-27N-0023-00083-_-Product
It says core clock of 1050 which tells me it's the older model though.... and the fact it has DDR3 confirms the fact.
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So yesterday I did my first tests with a Ryzen 5 2400G and I can confirm FrizzleFried's reports.
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So yesterday I did my first tests with a Ryzen 5 2400G and I can confirm FrizzleFried's reports.
Very happy to have confirmation that I am... indeed... not crazy.
Well... not in THIS particular case.
;)
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The thing is, I was excessively confident about the Vega 11 APU being supported since I had success with my Vega 56. The rule that worked for me in the past was that giving support to a newer card guaranteed support for previous models. What I was wrong about was assuming that Vega 56 (Vega10 XL) was newer than Vega 11, when it's actually the opposite (1 year older). Now I need to figure out why newer models are different so that the EDID emulation code isn't even executed in the driver.